MARYLAND - anyone?

[seatec]

yeah, im bringing the EZ-Up for sure! this time. Eric. Don't let me forget ok? Got the QUad all ready to go.
I had a ball with my Grtiz today. its a big f=diference however compared to the YFZ. i almost rold it down a hill at RTSE440 trails but saved it by just driving down the hill through the brush. lol. had to pull the seat out of my ***** after that. lol

[250rmike]

i wont be making it to budds but i hope to go to easton next weekend possibly. just took the z out for a ride at coca cola dr. today and i still wanna get alittle more used to it before i start racing it. i also wanna get some nerfs and a kill switch and a few other things good luck to all who are racing

[seatec]

Originally posted by 250rmike
i wont be making it to budds but i hope to go to easton next weekend possibly. just took the z out for a ride at coca cola dr. today and i still wanna get alittle more used to it before i start racing it. i also wanna get some nerfs and a kill switch and a few other things good luck to all who are racing
sorry you wont be making it dude

[greghall]

Ready to go to bed soon see you guys down there tomorow:o

[seatec]

i just called budds number and their are still on for tomorrow. cya there greg. Me and Eric are hooking up together again. Got the EZ up sitting my living room. if i forget it now. shoot me!

[250rmike]

who all is going to the rausch ride? also is anyone going to easton this coming up weekend im gonna try to make it out there.

[Ericthered rdr]

Hey guys I had a great time again hanging out and racing through the woods with all the guys. I had a much better race this time and I feel like I am starting to get the hang of it. All I need now is a nice new set of Elkas or TCS shocks and look out. :macho :devil: :blah: :D

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by 250rmike
who all is going to the rausch ride? also is anyone going to easton this coming up weekend im gonna try to make it out there.

I know Seatec is going and I plan on taking my boys. If we have good weather we will have a great time.

[greghall]

I don't think any kind of shocks could have smoothed out that rutted track,just more energy to hold on to the quad is the only thing that could have helped:D

[greghall]

CletusEX how are you feeling today I know you took a good spill you ok?

[seatec]

Yeah, same here. I had a blast. Didn't do as well as the others but thats to be expected being overweight and a first year quad rider. "MY Time Will Come" lol

Pretty interesting Race. If you picked your lines right the mod holes weren't really a problem. Stole a good line from Ritchie. ;)
When Eric an i unloaded my quad Eric looked at my PRM bumper and noticed that it was bent on the left side. For the life of me, i can't remember what i hit so hard that it would bend the bumper. i know i had some small scuffles with some trees once or twice but i did know i bent the dang thing. oh well, it did its job and protected the a-arms and shocks.
The Dirisi shocks did very well. i bottom once or twice but thats not so bad The rear shock did kick like a mule once and that was a good thing with all those braking bumps everywhere. Those braking bumps do keep you out of the seat alright.
All in all, a good race and lots a fun. especially walking around the woods with a certain Camera girl :devil:
Congratz on your 3rd place Greg.

[greghall]

I did better this race I was'nt sick afterward:D I was real close to second Chuck Dunn (congarats)& he could see 1st place Micia Henery (he also won Tomahawk) Hope to get a better start so I can at least run with these guys & have a shot a win but I gave all I had & made a few small mistakes,Had some good battles with Bob Terrille from Dirt First,I had a killer line in one section were I got by so many people & they never seen it comming:devil: It was sweet I did'nt see anybody using it.It was fun but very rough ,glad it was only 1 hour...

[seatec]

THe problem wiht trying to get the holeshot is that you could end up like that guy at the start. upside down pinned under the quad. ouch. that looked painfull.

[greghall]

Yeah he was right behind me glad he didnt flip on to me,Ill get that start dialed in sooner or later..

[chucked]

hey Greg ur buddy mike andrews was out again this weekend, broken up shoulder and all. He tried to roost me but just ended up flipping over. He just layed there for about 10 minutes before he could get up. Hes still faster then everyone even with a broken collar bone.

[greghall]

He's nuts he better heal up good so he can start racing again:D

[seatec]

ANy of you guys sore today? Once again, i have no aches and pains other than where i banged my arm against the cycra handguard. i must not ride hard enough!:D

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by greghall
CletusEX how are you feeling today I know you took a good spill you ok?

Yeah I'm doing alright. I'm pretty sore and got a nice bruise and lump above my eye (that was the first thing to hit the ground and I guess my goggles are what did it) My hip and one of my wrists are pretty tender also. I ate it in one of those whooped out sections. I was trying to stay out of the whoops and kinda ride a little bit of the bank and it just tossed me. It bent up the front end a little bit and blew out a tie rod end so the rest of the race I had to take it easy. I still had a good time. My brother wrecked in pretty much the same spot later in the race. He couldn't get his bike started on the start and was dead last off the line and came all the way back to 5th. He was on a mission. My buddy James (250RXCrider) also took a nasty spill, but is doing alright. Those whoops will get ya! Overall, I still had more fun than sitting at home.

[seatec]

Oh man. that almost happend to me going up a whooped out hill. i to thought to hug the wall and ride beside the whoops and almost had my right front climb up the bank throw me off. lucky i wasnt going to fast and that probably saved me.
I'm glad your didnt get beat up to bad Cletus. I think i mightve seen you tugging on your wheel trying to straighten it out. was it your left side that got messed up?

[greghall]

Glad to hear that Nick,those whoops were bad I almost went over twice when going to fast you had to watch your speed,I hit a few bottle necks on the first lap that held me up a little but I only got a groove going after the first lap,those walls on the side of the trails have bit many a quad rider including me they will suck you in & over quik.Good ride for your Bro to come from last to 5th it was very hard to pass.

[greghall]

250REX rider that was his brand new bike right? did he damage or get hurt?I know another guy on a R wrecked pretty bad to right after the checks.

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by greghall
250REX rider that was his brand new bike right? did he damage or get hurt?I know another guy on a R wrecked pretty bad to right after the checks.

I don't think he banged it up too bad. Just some scratches. He wrecked it not to far past the check point also. Congrats on the 3rd place.

[greghall]

Thanks guys,Im going to try to get ahold of the HS rep to see when we can get the points updated & maybe check on making the classes A ,VET,B,C so everybody can get a fair start instead of having to start & the second row,There's just no room for such a large class for everyone to get a start & is a little dangerous.She may not what to change the classes mid season but the way everybody was talking everybody would like to right?I think it woul be a good move anybody back me up on that???

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by greghall
Thanks guys,Im going to try to get ahold of the HS rep to see when we can get the points updated & maybe check on making the classes A ,VET,B,C so everybody can get a fair start instead of having to start & the second row,There's just no room for such a large class for everyone to get a start & is a little dangerous.She may not what to change the classes mid season but the way everybody was talking everybody would like to right?I think it woul be a good move anybody back me up on that???

I emailed Karen about the points and she said she was waiting on the results from the last 2 Tomahawk races. I would back you up on the classes only if they let me run C class next year:D

[greghall]

You should be able to run what ever class you want unless you have won a couble of races or finished in the top 3 in the class the previous year,I think the top 2 move up now but that's not enough people to move up to fill A class & B if we had a C class,The fast guys know who they are & should move up if they are made too, classes are competitive if the people have the same speed. A stands for Andy's class now:D I'm sure he would want some compition for him(not saying anybody can beat him he's always been the fastest guy in dis.7) I would say that the top 4 or 5 in B class are about the same any body could win.Does she even want to do the HS job anymore? does her husband race anymore?

[seatec]

I'd definately back you up on those classes. People like me are definately C class material (absolute beginners with not to much stamina) and would appreciate a shot at a top 10 or even five with close to identical riders. Does it really take that much more effort to run smaller seperate classes? A good eye needs to be kept out for sandbaggers for sure. It's just not right you know.

Id say that about 1/3 of last weeks B class was C class material if you ask me.


Also, if you have a C class it doesnt really matter what Displacement you have. i dont think i could ride any faster somebody on a 350 Raptor or something.

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by greghall
Does she even want to do the HS job anymore? does her husband race anymore?

I don't think she wants the job anymore. She is also the vp of district 7 and I think that is enough work for her to do. I haven't seen her husband or the other guy he rides with at the last couple of races. I'm sure if someone showed interest in doing the job she would hand it over. I thought about doing it but I would really like to hit most of the nationals next year and I don't know if I would make it to all of the local races.

[greghall]

I would'nt mind doing it but my time is just all taken up I can barely get time to go to a local race,seatec the classes need changing bad,but some people will proply ***** about carrying points to the C class & stuff like that but most would give up points to run C class.. Also I would have more throw aways that would benfit everybody if you had a bad race or could'nt make it to a race you would benifit..But that would be fair till nexst year.

[seatec]

i agree. i don't understand some people. wouldn't you want to race with equal racers instead of beating up on people like me? Right now I'm in it to finish and not be dead last but that will change as i get better and would want to set my sights on a top 10 or 5 even and that would be frustrating to have a clear top level B or even A rider beat up on me.


I think we might get Eric to do it. lol. he is president of his HOA so he has some experience in a committee kind of setting.

[greghall]

Eric sounds good!!!:) But honestly I was going to run VET class but I'm 3 years older & racing guys 10 years younger than me I had no Idea I could do as well as I did,but these top guys are still faster than me.I will e-mail her tonight with our concerns..

[Delaware152]

I am over on the mx side but I have to agree with you guys. They changed to a vet, a, b, c class structure last year and it is working well. I think the top 2 or 3 for the year have to move up or if a c class rider is dominating all the races then he moves up. A class structure like this gets more people out to race. Everybody races for fun but you want to be able to finish decent. It not fun when you are a first year racer and have to race against somebody that has four or five years experience.

[seatec]

Ahh bull crap on the older than most thing. When i saw you at Sugar hill i knew you where fast. you where actually holding back so i wouldnt feel bad. lol. THanx for getting the ball rolling on this with D-7.


Everybody races for fun but you want to be able to finish decent. It not fun when you are a first year racer and have to race against somebody that has four or five years experience.

You are right. It is easy to get discouraged by this but you just gotta belive that you can get better. Some say that you learn from better riders which is true but getting your ***** whooped with no chance what so ever fo a decent finish sux.

[seatec]

Delaware, Does the MX side have a better turnout than HS?

[Delaware152]

This past weekend there were 6 in the A, 8 in the B, 20 in the C and around 6 or 8 in the Vet. I would say this was a lower than average turnout. I have saw as many a 35 to 40 in the C class. With the new quads available now you need a C class so people can get experience. There's nothing like seat time!!

[seatec]

I agree witht he seat time. I don't know if we are getting the same turnout as you guys do. i think its less and maybe thats why they dont want 4 classes. I think maybe they should scrub the Vet class. those guys are often faster than A-Riders.

[cletusEX]

There definitely are enough people showing up to have 4 classes. Last year a good turn out would have like 10 people in the B class. At the last 3-4 races there have been 20+ riders in the B class. Also if there was a c class I think more people would show up to race.

[250RXCrider]

Originally posted by greghall
250REX rider that was his brand new bike right? did he damage or get hurt?I know another guy on a R wrecked pretty bad to right after the checks.

yeah that was me:( ......third gear pinned and my foot slipped off the peg. I think the quad rolled once and landed on its wheels and luckly nothing appears damaged. The Budds Creek Mud cushioned my fall and a couple of bumps and scapes, but no big deal. Needless to say the Roll pegs and nerf bars got ordered today!

It was great racing with all you 4 stroke guys and congrats on some fine finishes. Greg with this third, Chuck Dunn with 2nd, Brian (White YFZ) with fourth and Dan (Cletus's Bro) with 5th.

[seatec]

i tell ya, those nerfs saved a time or two

[250RXCrider]

Originally posted by seatec
i tell ya, those nerfs saved a time or two

I had Pro pegs on my 250R and never had a problem with my feet slipping off, I guess I was trying to be cheap and not dish out the money for a set on the 450R.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by Delaware152
I am over on the mx side but I have to agree with you guys. They changed to a vet, a, b, c class structure last year and it is working well. I think the top 2 or 3 for the year have to move up or if a c class rider is dominating all the races then he moves up. A class structure like this gets more people out to race. Everybody races for fun but you want to be able to finish decent. It not fun when you are a first year racer and have to race against somebody that has four or five years experience.

this was very well written!
I wanted to watch you race yesterday! I saw you gettong ready for a moto and had to go sign in. I saw you at Easton and you are fast and fun to watch! So how did you finish up?

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by seatec



I think we might get Eric to do it. lol. he is president of his HOA so he has some experience in a committee kind of setting.

What is involved in the job. I have some free time to donate to a good cause.:devil:

[250RXCrider]

ERIC FOR PRESIDENT OF D-7 QUAD HARE SCAMBLES !!!!!

where do we vote:D

[seatec]

i second the nomination. lol

[250rmike]

i havent raced(d-7) yet but sounds like a good idea to me

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
What is involved in the job. I have some free time to donate to a good cause.:devil:

I really don't think it envovles that much. Probably just getting the poinst and posting them on the web. Other than that the last rep did nothing.

[greghall]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
What is involved in the job. I have some free time to donate to a good cause.:devil: Eric its not a big deal you keep track of the points & go to a meeting once & awile I was going to do it when I raced three years ago but my other buddy mark did it that & was before they had a HS rep he had to do MX & HS he had no clue about the MX. Like I told the guys sunday the board will let you do whaT YOU WANT if the promoters agrees as long as it helps the sports HS died a little after I quit but its picking up again.I will help you if you want.Are you going to run the whole series?Than I say do it!! I have Karens e-mail address & if the guys get together & want to change the classes NOW I think she will or the dist.7 board will aprove we may have to go to a meeting to get it done.All of us can make the dist. 7 races what they were 4 or 5 years ago we always had 6 a riders,12 vets,25 or more 4str,even 6 or 7 2 strokers,

[greghall]

Originally posted by cletusEX
I really don't think it envovles that much. Probably just getting the poinst and posting them on the web. Other than that the last rep did nothing. That's why we have the proplem now,points should be updated each race thats what we do it for,:grr: somebody needs to care about HS,that whats to do it for HS dist.7.

[cletusEX]

I would definitely like to see more racers out there. It would increase competition and would give us more of a voice when it comes to the promoters. The bike riders have a lot more say in what happens at a race because of their numbers and the money they bring in. The more quad guys that show up the more we could change some things.

[seatec]

id also like to know why the bikes are always first? or is that to much to want to change in the beginning?

[Ericthered rdr]

Hey I was checking out the other threads from this weekends race coverage. Looks like Jeff from the QuadShop had an awsome day at the GNCC. Pappy did some awsome coverage of the race at Virginia beach . He got some good pics of Honda5 (Dave) but I don't know how he finished.

Back to the D-7 HS rep stuff... are they looking for somebody new? I would do it if they were interested in me. I also would have to get clearence from the boss. I am involved in my HOA but we only meet once a month. I think we could collectivly make some much needed changes to our local association. First we need to modify the class structure. I also think that the website need to be updated more often. I think another area that needs more support is getting more riders out there to get involed in a race. We have too many good riders out there that have no place to ride and wind up riding in illegal area's and giving our sport a bad name. I would enjoy the challenge to make what we pour our hearts into a more structured and informed sport.

Hey we even have a slogan worked out from yesterday... The D-7 Squirrel Chasers....Just a bunch of guys trying to get a nut!!:devil: ( thanks James that was great)

[Ericthered rdr]

Here are some good pics of Dave! I hope he chimes in tonight so we can find out how things went.

Honda5 flying (http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105488&perpage=15&pagenumber=4)

[greghall]

Eric I'm going to e-mail Karen right now I'll let her know you are interested in the HS rep position,its nothing to it my buddy only went to a few meettings & Richies wife kept the points up to date at every race I know the guys would apperciate that.as for quads running first not a chance in district 7 Seatec,as for class restructure I hope.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
Eric I'm going to e-mail Karen right now I'll let her know you are interested in the HS rep position,its nothing to it my buddy only went to a few meettings & Richies wife kept the points up to date at every race I know the guys would apperciate that.as for quads running first not a chance in district 7 Seatec,as for class restructure I hope.

Cool, I will talk to the wife tommorrow... it's her birthday and she will be in a good mood since I bought her a $250 Dooney and Bourke purse.:devil: I'll get the suspension I want even if I have to kiss a little *****

[greghall]

I just sent it Eric I'll let you guys know when she gets back to me,got to go watch Choppers soon be back at 11pm.

[Honda5]

Well here is the story from the weekend:

Went down a day early and took it easy until practice on Friday. Went out and ran about 5 practice motos (5 laps) the bike and me seemed to be real good. Slow Moto's bike went down on the last practice so he was out. Saturday went out for a short practice then on with qualifying. In the 30+ class I was flying and finished 2nd only a half a bike length from the leader. In the Production C class, the group was very large and they broke us up into 5 qualifying heats and I finished 2nd only because 2 guys got tangled up on the last lap and I slipped on by. Then Sunday came. Got a good pick for line up on 30+ and did a terrible holeshot. Did manage to stay in about 6th place until the last lap and was stuck behind the slow group and then I decided that I would do a jump and pass them. Next thing I know I'm laying on the group about 20 feet from my bike! Thank God the sand is soft! Should have just stuck with 6th place and stayed in line. Then for the Production class the track had gone to bad to extremely whooped up. Almost impossible to get any speed because there was hole on both ends of the jump that could swallow a quad! The whoop section was a good 4 feet deep and know way to double thru them. But I hang in there and finished 6 or 7th?? I was real happy with that. After the crash in the earlier race. And wow did you see the pictures that Pappy took of me (#991) Makes me look like real pro racer! I did get to meet Pappy but B didn't! Had a blast!!

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by greghall
I just sent it Eric I'll let you guys know when she gets back to me,got to go watch Choppers soon be back at 11pm.

Haha, I love that show I'm watching it right now.

[greghall]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
Cool, I will talk to the wife tommorrow... it's her birthday and she will be in a good mood since I bought her a $250 Dooney and Bourke purse.:devil: I'll get the suspension I want even if I have to kiss a little ***** What the hell does she need a $250. purse for:huh

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
What the hell does she need a $250. purse for:huh

I will never understand. Dude she collects Longaberger baskets....who the hell needs $250/$300 baskets laying around the house. I told her if she pi$$es me off I am going to use'em for kindling.(sp?) Her rebutle is why the hell do I need to spend all the money I do on fishing and quads. MY answer...BECAUSE I MAKE THE F-ING MONEY :macho

[seatec]

OH you guys think you have it bad. My better half (better at spending that is) has i don't know how many High end Sewing machines. She even bought some sewing machines that are like from the fifties for Christ sake. She also has bins upon bins of fabric nearing the $20k value and still she buys more. If she worked non stop on this fabric and turned it into the intended Quilts she couldn't do it in her life time. lol
But you know what? I keep my mouth shut and keep buying stuff for my quad habit.:devil: And in all fairness, she does make a decent buck. If i could just get her to move out of that stupid Town home into a nice rancher with double garage and a few wooded acres. oh well, ill work on that.

All in all i am pretty damn lucky. She dos not mind at all if i would go riding all day both Saturday and Sunday. WHen i come home from a hard days riding she has dinner ready and helps me unload the truck. What a gal. And that's all that counts.

[seatec]

Dave, those are some awesome pics of you ripping thorugh the sand man. You look like a Pro. ( street hooker i mean.):devil:

J/K Dude. Really looks good. Glad you had a good time and didn't get hurt (except your ego a little, maybe)

What are your plans for next weekend? MAybe some of us can come down and run around on the D&B Ranch. you got a woods loop?

[greghall]

Yeah guys you have to keep the wives happy,I have to say mines pretty good she would be at all the races if she did'nt have to take care of the youngens,she use to go all the time.Seatec go buy that big house bro so you can have a Quad Garage:)

[seatec]

Man, Don't i wish i had a nice big garage filled with quads. THen again, how many quads does a guy need? I have a Ute and a Race quad. Good enough for me. Will need to hop the Grizzly up just a tad though:devil:

[400exvet]

hey guys! I'm finally getting over kicking myself in the #$$ for making another costly stupid decision during a race. I can tell myself all day long to " take your time and make a good decision instead of just shooting off the track at the first sign of a bottleneck and hope for the best"! That almost never works! I feel like a spooked horse that just shoots off in any direction when scared! Oh well, I'll eventually get it all together!
I think this district definately needs a new fresh quad HS rep! One that is involved and able to take the time that is needed to make everyone feel like they are getting something for the money that we spend on this crazy sport! The classes and web site are definately a good place to start. I see alot of new riders that don't know what to do or where to sign up or where to line up or what time the race starts etc. etc. What I think will really help is like a beginners button on the web site? or something to that affect! I would bet alot more riders would race if they didn't have to go through that learning curve of just showing up and following people around and hopefully signing up in the right place at the right time and in the class you really want to be in. At the end of a race, there should be a set time that the trophies will be handed out. I hate just showing up whenever telling some person behind a window your name and they give you a trophy. It wouldn't take that long to get everyone together and announce the winners and give the trophies. just my .02 Later!
Eric, maybe you can sneak some of those baskets and purses on Ebay and get some new quad goodies for you!:D

[greghall]

I'm trying to talk Eric into taking the position,and district 7's web site suks,hopefully we can get this right with everybodys help.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
I'm trying to talk Eric into taking the position,and district 7's web site suks,hopefully we can get this right with everybodys help.

Let me know as soon as you hear from Karen. My cell # is 443-250-7407. For you guys that don't have it. I am on my way out the door to take my son Tommy to the Herr's potato chip factory in PA for a field trip. I will be on later tonight. I have to go and put my outdrives back on My/Fathers boat. I put all new seals and water pump kits in them and painted them all nice and pretty for algee and barnacles to grow on:mad: I would like to get some of you guys together for a trip out on the boat for some fishing. Once chumming for stripers heats up I will let you all know and whoever can blow off a day of work will be more than welcome to enjoy a day on the bay in a nice, fast 27' fishing boat. I can comfortably take about 5-6 people.

C-ya

[seatec]

I'm in on th fishing trip. i dont know crap about salt water fishing but i wont let that stand in my way. Oh yeah, can somebody put the worm on my hook? :D

[greghall]

Man Eric that would be great ,I only got a bass boat & that open bay can get rough,Richie & I both love to fish for anything that swims thanks for the invite I can't wait,I will get back to you & let you know what Karen says we may have to go to a meeting to get things done.

[seatec]

Man, i m sitting here going through event log's and all i can think about is the next race. Think i caught the bug? :D

[400exvet]

Man, i m sitting here going through event log's and all i can think about is the next race. Think i caught the bug?

hahaha YES YOU HAVE!!!! join the crowd....I see a nice enclosed trailer in your future:D We bought ours up by the poconos, best prices around! Let me know if..I mean when, you want more trailer info.. My buddy Ron is looking for a race to go to this weekend. The only one I see is a district 6 HS in Valley Forge? I can't tell where the track is but, Valley Forge Pa. is only about 1 hour north of North East.

[seatec]

Hmm THanks for info on the trailer. ill remember that.
I am about to order a 13 front and 37 rear for my yfz and see if that will help me a little in the real tight stuff. had to feather the clutch a lot last sunday. THe smaller rear will aslo give me a bit more clearance on the PRM skid since the chain is lready wearing two grooves into the black liner strip. think i am also gettgin a DID xring chain since the stocker is rusting away already. Probably due to poor maintenance on my part.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
Man Eric that would be great ,I only got a bass boat & that open bay can get rough,Richie & I both love to fish for anything that swims thanks for the invite I can't wait,I will get back to you & let you know what Karen says we may have to go to a meeting to get things done.

When and where are the meetings? Well sounds like I have three for the boat. One or two more and we have a fishing trip.

[YLW400]

Did I hear fishing???? lol

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by YLW400
Did I hear fishing???? lol

Uhhhh yup! Bring your crazy MX butt over here and come on out with us one day. Did you head north fishing last weekend? If so how was it?

[seatec]

Eric, i dont have any salt water gear so unless i can use yours or kill em with a rock i be steering the boat OR drinking beer. lol

[YLW400]

It was terrible Eric..the water temperatures dropped, and outside temps dropped 25 degrees from Sunday-Monday....It was a very bad day fishing.... Did I hear drinking beer??? lol

[greghall]

The meeting use to be in randals town maybe I cant remember over in that area somewhere.

[seatec]

Hehe, yeah you heard right. Hope you all dont mind me drinking Coronas. :D

[greghall]

Originally posted by seatec
Eric, i dont have any salt water gear so unless i can use yours or kill em with a rock i be steering the boat OR drinking beer. lol I'll use my bass gear, light tackle is great for small & med stripers.

[pgregg85]

The more corona's the bigger the fish stories

[seatec]

Originally posted by greghall
I'll use my bass gear, light tackle is great for small & med stripers.

Cool, thats what ill do then.


Paul, you damn right about those stories hehe.

[Ericthered rdr]

Guys I have more money invested in fishing rods then I do my quad! no need to worry about tackle, I make my own. I have almost every Do-it mold and about a dozen rare cast iron molds. I made most everything in my tackle box! I tie all my own bucktails and rigs.

[seatec]

i knew your where obsessive compulsive. lol

[greghall]

Eric I also have more $$ in my tackle than my bike,You have to see all my lures my boat is filled up with lures,4 bait casters at $350 each,4 spinning at $125 each, +all the other stuff that goes with it,had to spend my extra cash on something after I quit racing.

[seatec]

i guess we are all nuts. i have about 10 grand tied up in RC stuff. cars and helicopters. boys will be boys.

[greghall]

thier toys just get more expensive:D

[Ericthered rdr]

Man if I had all the money back that I wasted on toys and women I could pay off the rest of my mortgage! I went and bought new brake pads today. They got wasted at budds. I went with EBC SV pads. So I guess it is time to start talking about where to ride this weekend. Any suggestions?? Sugar Hill, Easton.... I need to take the boys out. Hey also I am selling both of my kids rides and going to get them upgrades. They outgrew these quick! $775 for the JR50 and $1300 for the LT50 both in great shape. Tell your friends with kids.

[seatec]

i got me a set of ebc fronts and rear. i got the metal ones for mud and stuff. Also will be getting the 13 and 37 ttoth sprockets.

[Honda5]

eric/seatec I'm going to seaford on sunday but I'll be home sat if you guys (and eric's kids) want to come over and ride a little in the afternoon. I do have a small woods loop but the track is more fun.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by Honda5
eric/seatec I'm going to seaford on sunday but I'll be home sat if you guys (and eric's kids) want to come over and ride a little in the afternoon. I do have a small woods loop but the track is more fun.

Sounds great I still have to talk to the boss to see what is planned for the weekend but I am sure she wouldn't mind getting me and the boys out of the house for awhile:D

[kwatts400]

A mid weekfishing trip sounds like a lot of fun. Its hard to meet up with you guys to ride on the weekends because my days off are limited to mostly weekdays. I'll be in for the next Saturday or Sunday morning Easton trip, just not this Sunday.

I'm thinking of a new set of shocks for my 250r, but can't decide which way to go. My options are Elka triple fronts w/o rezz, and a rebuild on the rear, or works triple fronts w/o rezz and works rear. Any thoughts on which would work best.

[seatec]

CHeck out the PM sparta race report. Pretty messy. Guess we are happy to report that one or two YFZ's crapped out again. lol. Anything to make the Honda riders feel better.:devil: J/K.

Seriously, nice write up on the race. Hard to keep track of who is who i imagin with all that mud. Gregg, you probably wouldve had a ball there. hehe.

[seatec]

Dave, thank you for the invite but saturday im taking the Grizzly out to sugar hill to do some mud bogging and continue to brake her in. AFter that i have to put the new brake pads on the YFZ so i can stop next time im heading for a big tree. Don't know what im doing Sunday yet but i have a feeling it involves a quad.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by kwatts400

I'm thinking of a new set of shocks for my 250r, but can't decide which way to go. My options are Elka triple fronts w/o rezz, and a rebuild on the rear, or works triple fronts w/o rezz and works rear. Any thoughts on which would work best.

Hey bud.. there has been a great deal of discussion on that exact topic on z400central.com. the answer to your question is go with the Elka's without rezzies for now and you can always add them later. This setup is better then the Works with rezzies. And is about the same price. I will do an edit on this reply if I can find the thread for you. I am looking to upgrade my suspension as well but I am gonna go full out when I do. I just need to buy some other stuff for the house first.

Suspension topic (http://z400central.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=24534)

second thread (http://z400central.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=23881)

IMO I think TCS shocks are the best deal if you are working on a tight budget. atvsuspensiontech.com sells them cheap and so does magnolia tractor. I am probly going with TCS fronts and Elka rear with a link.

[greghall]

Originally posted by seatec
CHeck out the PM sparta race report. Pretty messy. Guess we are happy to report that one or two YFZ's crapped out again. lol. Anything to make the Honda riders feel better.:devil: J/K.

Seriously, nice write up on the race. Hard to keep track of who is who i imagin with all that mud. Gregg, you probably wouldve had a ball there. hehe. Yeah man that mudd looked great,Honda's dont miss a beat.Andy told me Santo had a TRX450R sitting in his pit looks like he will race a R soon too:D

[seatec]

Traitors. lol.

Looks like i will be the odd guy out soon when all are moving to Honda the almighty. Good, i like it that way.:D Hey, the pro's are good enough to notice the subtle differences between quads but for me the YFZ does its thing.

I wish that the YFZ guys would give Yamaha a chance to fix the problems and not duck for cover as soon as there are a few small problems. Oh well, whatever they need to do to boost their businesses i guess.

besides. blallance has his yfz dilaed in just fine.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
Yeah man that mudd looked great,Honda's dont miss a beat.Andy told me Santo had a TRX450R sitting in his pit looks like he will race a R soon too:D

Oh boy you guys keep worrying about the YFZ and R but quietly the new Z is comming out and I have heard rumers of aluminium frame,e-button, and possibly EFI! I know what I am waiting for! Suzi has already released that thier big ute for '05 has EFI. WOW
I don't care what manufacture does what as long as they all are collectively making imrovements to our quads and not phasing them out like they did years ago. I can only say we are lucky to be headed ion the right direction friends :D

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by seatec
Traitors. lol.



besides. blallance has his yfz dilaed in just fine.

Hail to the GNCC god himself. Although he would whoop ***** on an 300ex:devil:

[seatec]

True dat Eric,
Just for clarification. I am just having fun Guys. I know i would have fun on either quad. I am very curious about the Z450. The 450 bike is doing pretty good so far in testing and riding.
EFi is not always the best solution but would sure make it friendlir to manage.

[greghall]

I just dont want to see all the pro's on the same bike bring on honda,suzuki,yami,atk,kawi,I want to see all the brands represented,seatec I'm just foolin with you Ballence does have his bike dialed in Im sure Yamaha has fatory guys fixing any of his proplems for him If he had bike proplems & it cost him a championship what do you think that would do to Yamaha.Eric you can call me any time during the day Karen has not got back to me yet..Oh yeah EFI would be a big mistake on the suzi,small engines are just becoming reliable in EFI.

[seatec]

EDITED BY anthony: to much whining. Lol


On to more interresting things. Where are you riding Gregg? Ritchy comming out to play?

[greghall]

man I havent even cleaned my bike yet don't know when I can ride again,may take the boys fishing this weekend,got to get the R cleaned up & get some prices on a steering dampner,that W.E.R. that one boy had at Budds looked pretty good.

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by greghall
man I havent even cleaned my bike yet don't know when I can ride again,may take the boys fishing this weekend,got to get the R cleaned up & get some prices on a steering dampner,that W.E.R. that one boy had at Budds looked pretty good.

I run a WER on my 400ex. My brother and James (250rxcrider) both have them on their 450r's and they work great. They are expensive but worth it in my opinion.

[greghall]

Originally posted by cletusEX
I run a WER on my 400ex. My brother and James (250rxcrider) both have them on their 450r's and they work great. They are expensive but worth it in my opinion. I needed one at budds,I had my bars almost come out of my hands several times because of those ruts a dampner would have helped me go faster on that stuff.Iwas going to go with a GPR but you are talking big doallors for a stem ,damper etc. $680.00 :eek2: I'm going to see if Andy can get me a deal.

[Ericthered rdr]

Dude go with the GPR 2.0 it is what Andy has on his......Gee I wonder why????:devil: As soon as I get the beans for one it is going in the green machine! If I would have had one I would not have wiped into that small tree in front of you. I popped my shoulder out on that one.

[seatec]

I am seriously considering selling my denton and go with either a GPR or a WER. i cant get a GPR 2.0 because that owuld make my already +2 setup to high. THe bike would look like a damn chopper out of OCC.
Maybe the GPR Pre 2.0 would do me fine. I heard pretty good things abotu the WER though.

WHat i dont like about the Denton that its very hard to get it mounted right so it wont bind up.

[greghall]

But thats alot of cash Andy gave me a price yesterday on it close to $700 proply get a WER for $350. + I would have to go with high dollar bars & have to remove or relocate my key & coolent light(which is no big deal)but I could spend the money I save on some bead locks or some other stuff.

[seatec]

yup. can andy get us a deal if we buy TWO WER'S?

[greghall]

go to werproducts.net they have pics of all the dampners.

[seatec]

Guys, for a moment let go of the "A real racer kick starts his bike and uses the clutch" mentality and tell me what you think about the Rekluce AUto CLutch AKA Z-Start.

Thread on rekluse (http://www.bluetraxx.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=47538)

Rekluse web site (http://www.rekluse.com/products/index.cfm )

[greghall]

Andy use to run a WER on his ROLL 250R he may still be able to get a good price on some.Seatec look at the pics of chris borich's YFZ on the WER site it mounts way low.

[seatec]

HOw do you feel about the mounting point on the WER? i think its ok as long as its kept clean and lubed up.

[cletusEX]

I've heard those GPR 2.0 units are nice but that is an awful lot of money. I thought $360 was expensive for the WER, until I rode with one. Those GPR ones are adustable on the fly but I have enough trouble just riding, let alone trying to adjust a stabilizer. And my bike spends a lot of time on the bars so I would be sick if I bent a $300 dollar stem.

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by seatec
HOw do you feel about the mounting point on the WER? i think its ok as long as its kept clean and lubed up.

The whole stabilizer is sealed and you don't really need to lube it. I have never had a problem with mine and it's been through some pretty nasty conditions.

[seatec]

Thanx for the info cletus. COmpared to the Denton the WER has a nice and linear action. no angle changes during the turn. Cool. Mounting plate and the clamp bar closest to the stem couldve been machined a little nicer and be black like the WER itself.


Heard anything about the Rekluse autoclutch. It's almost to good to be true. THe good thing is that you can still use the clutch and if you want to engine brake you just jab the throttle a bit so the rpm goes up a little and you have Your engine braking.

Perfect feathering everytime comming out of turns. pretty cool.THey also seem very reliable.


Edit: After looking at the overall view on the WER for the YFZ it actually isnt that linear. there is still a considerable angle change as the stem turns. what i am trying to say is that the compression speed will vary conisderable when you have a setup like this. The GPR is still the best on consider consistant dampening.

[cletusEX]

I haven't heard anything on how well the auto-clutch works or if people are liking it, but I have heard that a few 450r guys where running them so they don't stall their quads. I personally like having a manual clutch and lately have been pretty good about not stalling in a race.

[seatec]

THats the beauty of it. Youll still have a manual clutch if you want to. YOu can even ON the Fly adjust the Auto clutch engage speed. how cool is that.

[greghall]

Well Karen the HS rep e-mailed me back but she only made a metion about starting a C class,she said that the turn out may not be enough,I wrote her back that it will be a good move & left my # to call me in person I will get to the bottom of this even if all of us have to get together & go to a district 7 meeting,I'll keep you guys informed.

[seatec]

You just say the word and well go to the meeting. "If you build it they will come" is the right phrase for this situation. Aggressive recruiting on our side will also help. I have an idea for instance that First time HS racers get a free D-7 pass for instance as an introduction or something like that.

[greghall]

Eric did Karen call you?I talked to her about the classes & concerns we all have I can get into it later with some of you guys it looks like she will make a C class but the experienced racers from last year & the top guys you know who you are cannot run C
(but who would want too just to get a trophy)it will be for first year racers & the slower guys to break down the B class,I think it will work out great.She told me some other stuff to do & ask some of you.I'll be back later.

[seatec]

sounds good greg. i foirwarded the email to eric

[greghall]

she should had called eric about the rep job ,she's concerned about sand baggers in the C class,the guys don't want to run A because they can't beat Andy,that's why some people quit racing this year,but what are you going to do make one class!the top guys in the B class can run A that's including myself but they still beat me sunday.nexst year i will run vet or A.

[seatec]

greg. i wouldnt try to hard to get everybody into the right class right of the bat. next year we will no very well who belongs where. we will make andy sign a waver that he is only running for fun. lol more and more quads are sold every day. i think that if it gets promoted well people will come. we have to be active as well in this. have poker runs and stuff. we should definately have a quad club of some sort.

[greghall]

Thats going to be tough.

[greghall]

she also wants us to write a letter explaining why we want a C class & why its good for everybody involved,& get as many of the racers to sign it.There may be some people that don't like it because they won't be able to run the C class,I'm pushing this because District 7 is not like it was 4 or 5 years ago,I want to see it grow again,we have some awsome tracks to race & it would be a shame to have people stop because of misorganization.

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by greghall
she should had called eric about the rep job ,she's concerned about sand baggers in the C class,the guys don't want to run A because they can't beat Andy,that's why some people quit racing this year,but what are you going to do make one class!the top guys in the B class can run A that's including myself but they still beat me sunday.nexst year i will run vet or A.

I wouldn't believe everything Karen says. The top two guys from last year did not quit racing just because they did not want to race Andy. The 1st place guy from last year screwed up a bunch of discs in his back and does not even ride anymore and the 2nd place guy was going to quit racing anyway, he had knee surgery and has a kid on the way. He rides all the time with Jesse and would love to be out there racing in the same class with Jesse. The top guys in the B class are not really sandbagging it's just the way our district works. After this year I'm sure you'll see a few more guys in the A class. The top guys may have beaten you but two 3rd place finishes in your first two races back is pretty good. Those other guys have been racing and riding a lot in the last few years. I think it would be nice to update the classes but it's not going to affect me because I will still be running B.

[Lups450R]

hey guys just cleaned my quad. i think you will need a air chisel to get the budds creek mud off. that stuff is like concrete . after two hours of scrubbing she looks like new again. shore wish i had beadlocks. it took 20 min. to get the rocks out of the front tires.:(

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by Lups450R
hey guys just cleaned my quad. i think you will need a air chisel to get the budds creek mud off. that stuff is like concrete . after two hours of scrubbing she looks like new again. shore wish i had beadlocks. it took 20 min. to get the rocks out of the front tires.:(

Yeah it usually takes me 2 washes to get it looking back to normal. I got most of the stuff off yesterday and am going to really got at it tomorrow.

[greghall]

Nick I agree with you Karen does seem alittle how do I say this-a little know it all,but she did have some good points I knew all of those guys Gab,Carl,& I myself NEVER expected to be in the top 5 of the B class,like you said it won't affect you but guys like seatec need a starting point,I'm sorry I chose to run B if I knew I was going to do well I would of raced Vet ,but sundays race was very good I went back & fourth with Bob T. for 1/2 the race everybody in the top 7 of B were right there with each other & that's good racing,If this gets too political & there's a proplem getting it done then District 7 is not going to grow,Its all about having FUN if its not fun why do it.

[greghall]

Also she acts like she don't want to do it,she had her race results out & said the guys that asked her to start a C class are some of the top guys 5 guys in B I told her I did'nt believe that,I was trying to stick up for you guys.

[Ericthered rdr]

Ok guys I am waiting for Karens call. I am anxious to get things rolling for us squirrel chasers. We have a chance to really get things organized. I have to tell you things are pretty confusing out there and I think with some direction and promoting we can make a direrence in how this thing is run. I thinkwe all have good ideas and concerns. I think if we want changes to start we just might have to get together and attend a meeting so that our concerns can be realized. When I do talk to Karen I will find out the date of the next meeting and hopefully we can come together to voice our concerns. Hey I think it would be cool to have another excuse to get together. Lets keep this topic alive and mabey we can get Karen to visit the thread just to see how real we are. ......your thoughts

[greghall]

I gave her your # at around 5:00 pm Eric,she sounds like a tough sell but I'm sure you can do it:D

[Ericthered rdr]

Seatec I think you should get the Recluse and try it out and do a tech review on it. (and even let me try it). :eek2:

Guinee Pig alert

[cletusEX]

Greg, don't apoligize for racing B. I am just like you, out there to have fun and I know the other guys that I ride with enjoy the competition. We were the ones that talked to her before about starting a C class and it wasn't so my brother or Brian or any of the other fast guys in the B class could run it, it was for people like me who's first year it was racing. She gave us the same excuses about there not being enough people and about people sandbagging. But if they decided about a C class last year it would be a lot more organized for this year. I'm not arguing against updating the classes at all.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
I gave her your # at around 5:00 pm Eric,she sounds like a tough sell but I'm sure you can do it:D

Does she race a quad in the HS series..... um no! So who should be making the decisions on how the calsses are structured..... ummm the racers that are paying to be part of a non-functioning organization! Yes what we paid to be part of this organization is peanuts to me but to some it is not! I want up to date info( at least from the same calendar year) I also want a fair structure to keep things competetive and most importantly fun! I can't wait till the next race because I will be questioning every racer on the line how they feel about this topic. I will wager my quad that the overwelming majority feels the same as we do. At each race I have talked to at least one or two racers at the start and they had no clue as to what to do, what to expect and even if they registered in the right class. All I can say is bring it on because when I get into something like this I do my homework and I am known for getting results.

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
Does she race a quad in the HS series..... um no! So who should be making the decisions on how the calsses are structured..... ummm the racers that are paying to be part of a non-functioning organization! Yes what we paid to be part of this organization is peanuts to me but to some it is not! I want up to date info( at least from the same calendar year) I also want a fair structure to keep things competetive and most importantly fun! I can't wait till the next race because I will be questioning every racer on the line how they feel about this topic. I will wager my quad that the overwelming majority feels the same as we do. At each race I have talked to at least one or two racers at the start and they had no clue as to what to do, what to expect and even if they registered in the right class. All I can say is bring it on because when I get into something like this I do my homework and I am known for getting results.

Sounds good!

[seatec]

Eric, you are the man! Greg, i really dont mind running wiht the big dogs because i know what im am there for. Other however may be very intimidated by guys like you and Richie and others in your league. that we have to avoid. Eric is right. alot of people i talk to are also in the dark how thigs work and how to sign etc etc. we need some good info out there and an updated website for gods sake. the d7 site seems to only care about MX.

[250RXCrider]

I think all this talk about creating a C class is great. Are we also talking about opening the class's to both 4 & 2 stroke quads? Secondly, I understand that we currently have a few new riders in the HS D-7 series, but like years past as the season goes on the number of racers that show up becomes less. Then we will have four classes (A, B, C, Vet) with only a few riders in each class. I love racing and I love competition, but it is no fun when you have a class of 5-8 riders, not to mention they only trophy for every three riders. Hell I bought a 4 stroke so I could race in a class with more then one or two riders. Let's face there will always be riders that run in the class year after year even if they should move up. Racers are moved up to the next class based on their end of year points, but not nesacarly (sp?) on their speed or skill. You could go buy a blaster (or a nice used 250R) and run every 2 stroke race and at the end of the year you will probably be the class champion. Well I forgot were I was going with this rant, but I think D-7 will really need to think long and hard before starting a C class. As far as marketing the C class goes, D-7 reps can't even keep the points up to date or even show up to the race's!

[greghall]

If this does go through we need to make up some flyers & hand them out to everybody & tell them what we are trying to do & how it all works,The points will be up to date at each race &no more excueses,this needs to happen.Eric if she don't call you you call her tommorow.

[250RXCrider]

If someone makes the flyer I can make the copies/prints!

[greghall]

That's why me & Eric what to get involved ,the classes will include all bikes no matter what they are 2 & 4 stroke it can only make racing better & better for nexst year for the guys who are mid pack this year will be in the top 5 nexst year when people move up.the B class will still be large I would say at least 15 or more will be in it thats very good for everybody.The changes will keep everybody happy & wanting to race When they have a shot at a trophy or good finish for points.

[250RXCrider]

Originally posted by greghall
That's why me & Eric what to get involved ,the classes will include all bikes no matter what they are 2 & 4 stroke it can only make racing better & better for nexst year for the guys who are mid pack this year will be in the top 5 nexst year when people move up.the B class will still be large I would say at least 15 or more will be in it thats very good for everybody.The changes will keep everybody happy & wanting to race When they have a shot at a trophy or good finish for points.

Well written, I would like to see a change

[greghall]

cletusex & 250rexrider talk to all your buddy's & get thier reaction to it & let us know,Thanks guys for the input.

[250RXCrider]

will do, we will get some opinions

[seatec]

Other than the obvious, what is the purpous of the Vet Class? We all know that people in the Vet class are OLD A riders. and if they are fat dumb and slow like i am then they should ride C class.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by seatec
Other than the obvious, what is the purpous of the Vet Class? We all know that people in the Vet class are OLD A riders. and if they are fat dumb and slow like i am then they should ride C class.
We only have one Vet class. bikes have Vet a, b, c Yes the vet class in quads if more of a vet a/b because no one wants to run against Andy. I think the majority of riders are over 30. At least it seems that way.

[seatec]

oh well. I guess you cant make it right for everyone. I am thinking about 250x comment about maybe diluting the classes too much. Do you guys think that Karen has a point when she says that attendance tapers down as the race season progresses?

[greghall]

VET class is the most competitive class there is,you are right nobody what's to race against Andy,but he has a right to race too.Eric call her today sometime .VET use to be the best class out there.

[Ericthered rdr]

Here is a perfect example of a rider having no clue. My first race was at Budds. I went to sign in and get my cards. The lady told me that I should run vet because of my age. She never asked me my skill level. Although it could have been assumed because I disclosed that I never raced before. When it was time to race I had no Idea what the starting order was. Thankfully my buddy Jim was there to kinda help me out. I raced in the Vet class and was blown away by how fast those guys were. Dem Kyte boy's sure are fast. I was one of three first timers in the Vet line and there were quite a few on the 4stroke line. If there were a C-class there would have been good turnout in the classes except Vet wich I think would have only had 6 or 7. Hell the only person in A was Jesse I think. Now I think the turnout for that race would have been much better if the weather was better. There would have been about 12 in C class and 13 in B. Not bad for a day that called for terrible weather. Well this is my input. I would like to see some feedback from James and Nick about re-classing, although they are all pretty much solid B-riders. I think the only first year guy in thier group is Nick who said he would stay in B.

[seatec]

It comes down to this. EVerybody needs to have a good time and have a slight shot at top 5. You just cant make it right for everybody. One good thing about racing in a big class is that its hard to be last. lol

[YLW400]

Ok....let me get this straight.......Quad HS guys do not have a C class?? And this chick wants a letter on "why" there should be a C class??

[seatec]

Well, ill let youg uys handle it. We are in good hands soon. GOing out to finally wash my quad. Will ride at RTSE440 place tonight with another firend of mine. also need to do a oil change and install the quite core.

[seatec]

Originally posted by YLW400
Ok....let me get this straight.......Quad HS guys do not have a C class?? And this chick wants a letter on "why" there should be a C class??

that would be the gist of it, yeah.

[greghall]

Lucky guy gets to ride during the week,wish I could..

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
Lucky guy gets to ride during the week,wish I could..

Hence Squid supreme :blah:

[seatec]

hey i havent had a full weeks worth of vacation in over 4 years. Cut me some slack. lol. Tell ya what. ill do an extra lap for my friends. lol

[seatec]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
Hence Squid supreme :blah:

Bite me gomez! lol

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
I would like to see some feedback from James and Nick about re-classing, although they are all pretty much solid B-riders. I think the only first year guy in thier group is Nick who said he would stay in B.

I think that going to a C class would benefit a lot of riders. I wish there was one when I started racing last year. I would be a lot faster now if I had someone to compete with last year, but it was the same 7-8 guys that showed up to all the races and they were all faster than me. I am not fast by any means but on that rare occaison that I have a good race I usually finish in the upper third of the B class. So even though I wouldn't run the C class I think that it would be a good starting point for those who have never raced.

[greghall]

Hey Nick are all you guys going to the nexst race a foot of the mountain???

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
Hey Nick are all you guys going to the nexst race a foot of the mountain???

Do they have a website. I heard they have a nasty course there. I plan on running. I hope we can get a good turnout.

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by greghall
Hey Nick are all you guys going to the nexst race a foot of the mountain???

Yep, we'll be there. And Eric I don't think they have a website. Last year they had a number to call if it might be cancelled but that's it.

[greghall]

I was looking at some pics on the dis.6 site it did not look bad looked pretty smooth,but taht was only around the picture;)

[seatec]

How can you not have a website this day and age? The Quad is clean. the quite core sounds good. lets see how much power it robs.

[greghall]

I hope to get my W.E.R. dampner by then,may need it there will be some fast dis. 6 riders there they are always tuff,hope to have the C class in effect by than if Eric can SWEET TALK her in to doing it NOW!!!

[greghall]

you will propley have to jet it again Anthony??

[Ericthered rdr]

HMMMMM (http://z400central.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=19415&st=0&#entry216705)

I am going to call Karen now I will be back on tonight.

[seatec]

Originally posted by greghall
you will propley have to jet it again Anthony??


probably. GReg

Eric. those shocks are definatley you buddy

[greghall]

Those shocks might be too stiff for Eric.

[seatec]

eric, ill give you some of my weight so those shocks will suit you. lol

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
Those shocks might be too stiff for Eric.

Hell I'll try to beat him down100 bucks and have them revalved and still be ahead of the game:devil:

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
Hell I'll try to beat him down100 bucks and have them revalved and still be ahead of the game:devil:

They might not even need to be revalved. I had mine set up for stock a-arms and called elka when i went to a plus 1 setup. Elka said if they are too soft I wouldn't need to get them revalved they would just send me different spings and i could swap them out. you might just have to get different spings. I think elka said they were like 30 bucks for each side. Call elka and see what they say. They'll let you know how they will ride and what you will need to do. I think the valving is more for what kinda racing your doing like mx or xc but i'm not sure.

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by greghall
I was looking at some pics on the dis.6 site it did not look bad looked pretty smooth,but taht was only around the picture;)

It's not a bad course. It is rocky like Tomahawk and there usually is a good amount of water and mud. A steering stabilizer is a must up there.

[greghall]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
Hell I'll try to beat him down100 bucks and have them revalved and still be ahead of the game:devil: cletus is right spring pressure is what makes them stiff or soft different springs will work but if you can take some preload out it will soften them a little.

[Ericthered rdr]

Mabey I can just get them +1 Roll design Arms and they should be perfect:devil:

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
Mabey I can just get them +1 Roll design Arms and they should be perfect:devil:

Now your talking!:D

[Ericthered rdr]

Hey W.E.R. users help with this question.... I see that the WER damper is $367.00 but it looks like I need to get a mounting plate as well wich is $99 for a total of $466. Here is the link that I am refering to WER (http://werproducts.net/) Edit: have go to the application chart to find the pricing for Z400

now here is the GPR 2.0 for $130 more. GPR (http://www.rockymountainatv.com/home.asp?sid=0004183344) the only prob is it doesn't look like they have any in stock.

[250RXCrider]

The $367 includes the mounting plate and everything you need to mount it to the quad.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by 250RXCrider
The $367 includes the mounting plate and everything you need to mount it to the quad.

Awsome where did you get yours from. Thanks for the quick answer

[250RXCrider]

I ordered mine direct from WER, they are New Jersey and it only took two days to get to Maryland. They are very friendly guys, but they willl not come down on the price at all.

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
Awsome where did you get yours from. Thanks for the quick answer

I ordered mine directly from WER. I think there in New Jersey or Delaware so it only takes like 2 days to get it. The $99 is if you switch quads and need a different mounting bracket.

[250RXCrider]

Originally posted by cletusEX
I ordered mine directly from WER. I think there in New Jersey or Delaware so it only takes like 2 days to get it. The $99 is if you switch quads and need a different mounting bracket.

There must be an echo in here, actually Cletus ordered his first and I went on his recommendation:D

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by 250RXCrider
There must be an echo in here, actually Cletus ordered his first and I went on his recommendation:D

LMAO that was cool you two must think alike. I think I am going with the WER then I need to save all the $ I can. I might be getting some Elka's:D

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
LMAO that was cool you two must think alike. I think I am going with the WER then I need to save all the $ I can. I might be getting some Elka's:D

You'll be set!

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by cletusEX
You'll be set!

I need to do something to try to keep up with you!

[250RXCrider]

Just take Cletus drinking the night before the race

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by 250RXCrider
Just take Cletus drinking the night before the race

i'm game:D

[seatec]

just got home a good day riding. need all the practice i can get. Ill be hitting SH this weekend. anybody???

[250RXCrider]

Originally posted by cletusEX
i'm game:D

You ready for Rausch?

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by 250RXCrider
You ready for Rausch?

Yeah pretty much. I fixed some little things on my bike so I'm ready as i'm going to be.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by seatec
just got home a good day riding. need all the practice i can get. Ill be hitting SH this weekend. anybody???

I will be there with the dudes around 8am. I just got done washing the quad off. Hey Seatec how much mud and gravel was on the inside of your rims? Or did the mud covers do thier job. I had about two pounds of chit in each one. How much were they and where from.

[250RXCrider]

Originally posted by cletusEX
Yeah pretty much. I fixed some little things on my bike so I'm ready as i'm going to be.

Yeah, I did the second wash job tonight, mounted up the Roll Pegs and the kill switch....I just have to hook up the wires and change the oil and she will be ready to roll

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by 250RXCrider
Yeah, I did the second wash job tonight, mounted up the Roll Pegs and the kill switch....I just have to hook up the wires and change the oil and she will be ready to roll

Sounds good. I might clean up the quad a little more, get it looking good for the race. I'm hoping for nice weather, but it should be a good time either way.

[seatec]

Eric. what day are you going to be at SH? THe mud plugs did their jobs. hardly any mud in the ouside half of the wheel.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by seatec
Eric. what day are you going to be at SH? THe mud plugs did their jobs. hardly any mud in the ouside half of the wheel.

I can only go on Sat because Sun is mothers day. Which quad are you taking. Or are you bringing both.

[seatec]

OK good. most likely the Grizz. wanna do some mud bogging,. hehe. talk to you tomorrow.

[greghall]

Looks like I'll be the last one to clean their quad,man I need some more time during the week.I think I'm going with the W.E.R. it has a good rep. I always set it & never touch it agian anyway don't need to adj. on the fly,Now I need to win lotto & get some Hipers.

[greghall]

Are both of you guys going to the GNCC at Rausch?

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
Are both of you guys going to the GNCC at Rausch?

If I can talk the wife into it I am gonna run it. But I think I aint got a chance.

[greghall]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
If I can talk the wife into it I am gonna run it. But I think I aint got a chance. Man Eric you will be in for a surprise,If you do run the C class 33+ (if your over 33)You want to talk about sandbaggers,the GNCC has them in that C class, if you win a C class you are fast.GNCC is the chit its a real race non stop excitment!

[chucked]

Hey guys, I lost my keys, does anyone know where they are?

[cletusEX]

Originally posted by greghall
Man Eric you will be in for a surprise,If you do run the C class 33+ (if your over 33)You want to talk about sandbaggers,the GNCC has them in that C class, if you win a C class you are fast.GNCC is the chit its a real race non stop excitment!

The GNCC's are a blast. I only raced 2 last year and did not do too well but man I had a good time. The top guys in every class are all fast. I'm gonna run C 16-24 and I'm shooting for like a top 20, but we'll see what happens. If you guys are thinking about hitting one the Wisp is an awesome race. Nothing like 5th gear pinned heading up a nice smooth ski slope.:blah:

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by chucked
Hey guys, I lost my keys, does anyone know where they are?

I looked all over the place for ya but couldn't fine 'em. I have a feeling they are in the last place you left them.:devil:

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by cletusEX
I'm gonna run C 16-24

Damn kids I tell you....... must be nice to still be young and have all of that energy!! I would like to run it just to say hey I ran in a GNCC with the top dogs but I have to take the boys that weekend and I don't have anyone to watch them while I race. I am trying to talk the wife into going but I think she made plans for Preakness since she used to work at the horse race tracks for 6 years. I am going either way It's just I am not sure if I am racing. Hey Nick I can through sticks and stones at all the guys in your class so that you can finish top 5:devil: :eek2:

[seatec]

I'm in on the GNCC ( if i was one of the two you where asking Greg?!) I also want to just say " I ran in a GNCC and lived!"

I was riding with RTSE440 and another Friend yesterday at RTSE440 place. I had just put the Quite core on the GYTR pipe and I'm pissed. what a power robber! low end is GONE!
Thats it. I'm going to sell my Full GYTR with quite core and get a HMF slip on with quit core. RTSE440) has a HMF slip on with quite core and no other mods. he even runs the stock needle. With the lid on he still smokes me on in a drag race. His low end is killer.
I cant have anybodies quad be faster than mine. I can live with people out riding me but not because my quad is a 3 toed sloth. No Sir!:D

SO if anybody knows somebody who wants a Full GYTR Carbon FIber Exhaust with quite end cap, let me know.

[seatec]

Eric, if you dont race then you should definately shoot footage of the GNCC.

[chucked]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
I looked all over the place for ya but couldn't fine 'em. I have a feeling they are in the last place you left them.:devil:

Yea that would be my pocket, but after I got back from riding they werent there anymore

[seatec]

What is up with that. It can't only be about being able to whoop up on some green racers? ARe there other reason why good riders don't wish to go to a higher more equal Class for them?

[greghall]

Seatec I think you should take the Grizz & ute stock class that would be fun!!

[greghall]

just ride around the track that would be cool.

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by seatec
Eric, if you dont race then you should definately shoot footage of the GNCC.

I am up for that. If you run I could use your DVD camcorder.(if you want) then we can make copies on my fathers DVD burner. Dude just post that thing in the F/S section it will go. I hear that the HMF does give big gains. I would already have one but it is not Forestry approved. .... from what I have read.

[seatec]

Originally posted by greghall
just ride around the track that would be cool.

The Grizz is a formidable quad. its very tippy though. it doesnt like off camber very much as RTSE440 can attest. i almost rolled it the other day ond only saved it my sheer luck.

i dont want to do a race with it though. i like the YFZ to much (when it is jetted right)

[seatec]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
I am up for that. If you run I could use your DVD camcorder.(if you want) then we can make copies on my fathers DVD burner. Dude just post that thing in the F/S section it will go. I hear that the HMF does give big gains. I would already have one but it is not Forestry approved. .... from what I have read.

Screw the Forrestry. lol

Yeah, i might just put it up for sale on here or yfzcentral. SOmebody might want it. dont know what to ask though.

Alba action wants 550 for thw full setup but tht comes with the jets and needles. i can include the jets but not the needle. i do have the $50 Quite encap with it. wada think. i have a small tear in the rubber liner for the stainless clamps. no biggy.

[seatec]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
I am up for that. If you run I could use your DVD camcorder.(if you want) then we can make copies on my fathers DVD burner. Dude just post that thing in the F/S section it will go. I hear that the HMF does give big gains. I would already have one but it is not Forestry approved. .... from what I have read.

Yup, thats exactly what i had in mind. You take the footage and then we edit it and burn it to DVD's.

[250RXCrider]

Originally posted by greghall
Are both of you guys going to the GNCC at Rausch?

Yeah our normal group (Nick, Dan Brian) will be at Rausch and I think we will all are running the C class in the appropiate age group.

To all the first years riders there is the "first year racers" class and we all ran that last year at WISP. The only problem with that class it you get a lot of riders that have no clue.

[seatec]

Hmm first year rider, no clue. sounds suspicously like me!!:D

[greghall]

First year racer is all me,I may run that at the Wisp:devil:

[Honda5]

ok I'm lost. It sounds like alot of you guys are riding the GNCC next sat. The wife and will be over at the track sat. and maybe sun. I may watch sat and ride sun.

[seatec]

Originally posted by greghall
First year racer is all me,I may run that at the Wisp:devil:


Ehh no you wont. lol


Wait a minute. Which GNCC is where next saturday? Don't we have foot of the mountain then?

[greghall]

Rausch Creek GNCC is the 15th nexst dis. 7 race is june 6 at foot of the mountain, If I ran first year racer I bet I would'nt come close to winning its way different than locall stuff the speed is tremendous,all the top guys are fast & its a long time to race.I may run it because you start last no fast guys to hound you just pass everybody else:devil:

[seatec]

I was kidding. you run whatever you want to run. if winning was on my mind i'd play chess or something. lol

Thanx for the info though

[Ericthered rdr]

I would love to run wisp. I love it out at Deep Creek. I take a couple of trips there in the winter each year.

[seatec]

That WFO stuff sounds very appealing to me. How far is WISP?

BTW, forgot to mention. I didnt really appreciate how well my new shocks (millenium) are working until i rode a stock shock yfz yesterday. The shocks are much more docile and dont beat you up as much anymore. All in all. money well spent.

[Ericthered rdr]

Wisp is about 3-3.5 hours away. Depends om weather and how the traffic is moving. Hey Seatec I see they make an HMF slip on for that Grizz $229... all you bud!

[greghall]

Originally posted by Ericthered rdr
I would love to run wisp. I love it out at Deep Creek. I take a couple of trips there in the winter each year. I'm deffinetly going to Wisp It should be a good time ,seatec its around 3 to 31/2 hours away,everybody goes to run that one.

[seatec]

Well, its a long way but i think it might be worth it. Do we run on saturday at the wisp GNCC? If on sunday ill probably take the next day off.

Eric. They make a lot of stuff for the grizzly but i am on a spending freeze. lol im alowed to buy the sprockets and nothing else right now. If i sell the GYTR i can of course buy the HMF.
It was fun while the spending spree lasted. :D

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by seatec

It was fun while the spending spree lasted. :D

I am trying to sneek on a suspension and steering stabilizer then I am done for the summer. I spend money like water in the summertime on the family and trips so I have to behave.

[seatec]

I hear ya. Except for the HMF and maybe the Recluse i have everything i need right now. Before i sell the GYTR i might try taking the wider header off and putting the stock one back on. i might get a better low end. Ill think about it and see what ill do. if somebody gives me 375 for my GYTR setup ill take it and get the HMF.

[greghall]

What's a Recluse??? HMF's are good pipes there loud to,I'm sure you can sell it.GNCC is on sat for quads its awsome they treat you great its all about quads that day,you race in the morning & watch the Pros in the afternoon,$$$ & time is keeping me away from Rausch but I will be at the Wisp,

[cletusEX]

If you have the time definitely try and make the wisp. We usually make a whole weekend out of it. Get the racing over from 10-12 and then it's miller time.! :D It's amazing watching the pro's and afternoon class run. You will not believe how fast they are. Well worth the trip.

Anyways I'm outta here going to the eastern shore to try and get in on some of the hardhead fishing that's heating up. Later guys.

[seatec]

have fun cletus. cya at the races

greg. a rekluse is a auto clutch system.

[greghall]

Oh ok more money wasted:D :devil: Learn to use that clutch boy;)

[kwatts400]

How loud is the hmf with the quiet core insert?

[YLW400]

Seatec, did you buy a Grizzly???? lol

[seatec]

The HMF with the quite core is significantly more quite. I was amazed when i heard RTSE440's. and it didn't seem to loose much power.


YLW, yes sir. got the grizzly. will bring it to Easton so i can jump it on the big track. Yeah right!!!!!

[YLW400]

I figured would could do some nac nacs on the the big doubles..:o you go first though:D

[seatec]

Originally posted by YLW400
I figured would could do some nac nacs on the the big doubles..:o you go first though:D

Oh no no! By all means. you first! ill film. (and get rich if you make it):D

[YLW400]

I would hate to blow the shocks on your brand new quad:o

[250RXCrider]

Originally posted by greghall
First year racer is all me,I may run that at the Wisp:devil:

Hey now I think 1st year racer is a little below your skill level:D

Come race in C class........it is a huge class with lots of other racers to pass, but one plus is you have two hours to do it!


You all have a good weekend I am heading down to Solomon's to see if we can catch some rock fish

[seatec]

Originally posted by YLW400
I would hate to blow the shocks on your brand new quad:o

and blow they would. hehe.

[Ericthered rdr]

Damn.....all this fishing going on and I am stuck at home this weekend doing honey doo's for the wife so that I can go to Rausch next weekend. Man I heard the hardheads came in with force and big one's too. I must say one of my favorite trips is night fishing for croakers(hardhead) at night. Boy can those things fight! Tastey too:devil:

[seatec]

you guys to much fish on the brain

My wonderefull girl friend let me order the HMF tonight. Man am i lucky!

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by seatec
you guys to much fish on the brain

It's that time of the year when fisherman come out of their shells to catch what they have missed out on all winter long! I try to catch enough fish during the year to have at least one fish meal a week. I have e vacum packer so it stays as fresh as the day it was caught. Damn I love fish on the hook and on the fork!

I should be at SH by 8am. See you there????

[seatec]

cya tomorrow morningh. i have to get the sway bar off the quad in the moring.

[greghall]

Good deal Anthony jett it to what HMF says you should be dead on,Yeah man I wanted to go fishing to but baby sitting while the wife cuts hair is what I'm doing tommorrow we need the extra $$ ...

[greghall]

Let me know how SH goes guys I'm going to get my kids bike really soon Have fun watch out for the nails & don't stop for any breaks burn those woods up for an hour,If you can ride that chit back there you will get good really quik:D

[Ericthered rdr]

Originally posted by greghall
Good deal Anthony jett it to what HMF says you should be dead on,Yeah man I wanted to go fishing to but baby sitting while the wife cuts hair is what I'm doing tommorrow we need the extra $$ ...

Hey we need to get our boys up to Sugar Hill one morning. They would have a blast riding together.

[seatec]

Originally posted by greghall
Let me know how SH goes guys I'm going to get my kids bike really soon Have fun watch out for the nails & don't stop for any breaks burn those woods up for an hour,If you can ride that chit back there you will get good really quik:D

i wont be burning much up on a grizzly but ill try . hehe.

[Ericthered rdr]

I am loading up the trailer and heading to SH. :macho

[DoctorRags]

What's up ladies? For those of you that don't know, this is CletusEX's brother. Unlike him, I work and don't have all this free time to post on thie board and go fishing. Like today, I'm stuck at work watching asphalt going down. Looking forward to Rausch and Wisp. They both should be good times. Can't wait to have the 450R WOT up the ski slopes.

My recommendation is run the C class because then you don't get tied up with the 1st year racers and the slower C class riders. Last year, I had a great holeshot (like 4th or 5th) and then some newbie clipped me and we got tangled. Spent the first two laps trying to pass all the slower riders that wouldn't move out of the way. This year I will just run C class and hopefully get a good holeshot.

[Ericthered rdr]

Glad to see you poke your Head in Doc. I just got back from riding with Seatec and my boys. We had a good time. Seatec's new Grizzly is WOW powerful and goes through anything. I can't wait to get one.

[seatec]

Hey Doc. good of you to show yourself here. lol

Yeah, had a good time with Eric and the boys. The grizzly is awesome and took it through some serious mud. i got stuck in some mud bog in 4wd. kickewd in Diff lock and wheeled right out. dan this things is a brute.