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[Crazy lil punk]

anyone sunday?

[WhiteYFZ]

i will be there sunday.

[rpyfz450]

Originally posted by WhiteYFZ
i will be there sunday.

What location are you talking about, Atco or Chatsworth. It's hard to tell.

[WhiteYFZ]

sorry, chats

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by rpyfz450
What location are you talking about, Atco or Chatsworth. It's hard to tell.

i was acutally thinking blue diamond, lol

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by WhiteYFZ
sorry, chats

whos all going to chats with you tommy? because if no one goes to bluediamond ill meet you at chats.

[WhiteYFZ]

me and my cousin on the 700

[Crazy lil punk]

did everyone like die? or not ride anymore?

[Over-land 450r]

nahh race.

[manban]

will Chatts let you ride in the rain. Will they be open.

[WhiteYFZ]

yeah

[Over-land 450r]

chatts is a joke if it rains ur gonna be rideing around lakes.

[manban]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
chatts is a joke if it rains ur gonna be rideing around lakes.

Thanks I just need to ride asap ......LTR 450 chipped

[Jersey450R]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
chatts is a joke if it rains ur gonna be rideing around lakes.

Yo Robby, if you think racing is "Stucking Fupid", then why are you doing it? And what happend your 1st moto, why did you get 9th?

[Over-land 450r]

no it was kinda a race team we thought of making. the first moto there was mud at the bottom of the lip so i went off sideways, fliped and fell in the drainage ditch with the quad on me.

The way me and some other guys ride is stucking fupid

the week before i crashed and broke my handle bars and finished the race. haha. come to sleepy hallow monday

[Over-land 450r]

o yea i stucking love racing. now got somethng goin with trick racing.

[Jersey450R]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
o yea i stucking love racing. now got somethng goin with trick racing.

haha

[Crazy lil punk]

any one riding anywhere this weekend?

[Hammer trx450r]

Atco friday and blue diamond sunday, is where i will be

[WhiteYFZ]

if i had my nerfs i would be at atco mabe chats.. ive been waiting for 4 weeks.:mad:

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
Atco friday and blue diamond sunday, is where i will be

I'll probally be there to, what r u riding?

heres a pc of my wip, lol

[Hammer trx450r]

This bike

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid214/p61fd5e6e4786dc440d936cba2ef5a867/ed07820f.jpg



And this truck

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid214/p317628e394a50e72ea79fba7460ff975/ed0780e2.jpg

[Crazy lil punk]

lets get a head count on all the people that are going to be at blue diamond sunday. and post a pic of ur ride (mine is above)

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[Jersey450R]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
This bike

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid214/p61fd5e6e4786dc440d936cba2ef5a867/ed07820f.jpg



And this truck

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid214/p317628e394a50e72ea79fba7460ff975/ed0780e2.jpg


wow! nice pics! Breaking the bike down this sunday for shock work and pc. , hopefully be rebuilt for next weekend with some fresh bling!

[ducman998r]

If my wife lets me ouot.. ill be there

[BiG ReD l00ser]

Holy **** joe this thread is HUGE haha after i get my new quad im going and i dont give a ****n what anyone says... aslong as i can get a ride

[JW450R1]

who's riding tomorrow

[Crazy lil punk]

scroll up

[WhiteYFZ]

im prob going tomorrow. if u go and u got a set of stock pegs please bring em and il buy em off u... thanks..

[naw0029]

Looks like me and a few guys will be going to chats this sunday(10-8) does anyone know what kind of condition the track is in. Any info would be great, thanks.

[yellowzo3]

Whiteyfz posted some pictures for everyone to check out and from what i saw the track looked to be better than what it usually is! hopefully whiteyfz will see this and tell us exactly.

[rpyfz450]

Originally posted by naw0029
a few guys will be going to chats this sunday(10-8) does anyone know what kind of condition the track is in.

That's the same day as RauschCreekRacing.com's customer appreciation day.

[naw0029]

So whats that mean? Chats is sitll going to be open right? Anyone else going?

[Mean250r]

ill be there on sunday, me and my friend are goin

ill be on a yfz and my friend will be on a 250r

[naw0029]

Nice hope to see u there. My cousin and i are gong i will be on my red 400ex and he will be on his black 450r. We will probly be in a blue expidition and white inclosed tralier. Its my first time there so it should be fun.

[Over-land 450r]

chattss worth will suck and always suck got to blue diomond. its right in new castle. the medivacte can b there in 5 minz like it was last time. ill probbaly go

[naw0029]

I always go to blue i want to go some where diferent but still not sure where i am going. The medivac was there for the football game last week anyway, still nice to know that it can get ther so quick.

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
chattss worth will suck and always suck got to blue diomond. its right in new castle. the medivacte can b there in 5 minz like it was last time. ill probbaly go

Robby are they teaching you spelling and grammer at that school?

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
Robby are they teaching you spelling and grammer at that school?

I think they made his stiches to tight last time, lol, how was blue this week? i was up the moutains helping my parents work on the house

[Over-land 450r]

hahaha how am i suppost to learn when they suspend me all the time. lol. nahh they also dont teach and i have been good this year. its twp get ur daughters out of here. blue was rough but fun. ron do u want to trade rims??i just got 4-1 regulars i want bead locks. u no u want ur 3-2 rims back.lol

no matter wat the case is, the heli can b there in 5 minz. lol thats alsome.

[Vem YFZ450]

Sup guys, I was out there this weekend for the first time. Chatsworth was fun for me. Is there any other parks around there?

Im thinking about going again this weekend.

Thanks.

[Mean250r]

i thought sunday was fun, they groomed the track, and every jump had a lip, i had a fun time!

[WhiteYFZ]

i will be there on sun if i get my nerfs..

[manban]

You still waiting on nerfs? Has it been almost a week?

I might try Chattsworth soon! Iam hooked on walden right now

[WhiteYFZ]

Originally posted by manban
You still waiting on nerfs? Has it been almost a week?

I might try Chattsworth soon! Iam hooked on walden right now

try 5 lol

[rpyfz450]

I'm sure nerf bars aren't required to ride at Chatsworth.

[manban]

Tell them about your thread on atv rider Chattsw/forum and you still have no nerfs is it OK This One Time?:devil:

[Hammer trx450r]

Im sure u dont need them at chatz.

[Vem YFZ450]

You dont need Nerf bars at chatworth.

[WhiteYFZ]

be there saturday... ill be there..

[yellowzo3]

hey guys, i was wondering if your allowed to bbq at chats and stuff..we have to make a 2 hour trip if we join and make a day of it everytime we go...so i was wondering if your allowed to bbq there...ive only been there once to check it out and that was a while ago. Thanks.

[Mean250r]

yeh im pretty sure ur allowed to, call up and check to make sure tho! :muscle:

[yellowzo3]

cool thanks man!

[WhiteYFZ]

yeah ur allowed.

[Crazy lil punk]

ANY ONE riding this weekend? i wana ride, BADDD!!!! lol pm me

[rpyfz450]

Originally posted by yellowzo3
hey guys, i was wondering if your allowed to bbq at chats and stuff..we have to make a 2 hour trip if we join and make a day of it everytime we go

I thought the consessions stand at Chats was pretty decent. Unless you're barbequing ribs, or something special, I'd suggest you leave the BBQ home and trade in the cooking and cleaning time for more riding. The prices were surprisingly reasonable too,.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by rpyfz450
I thought the consessions stand at Chats was pretty decent. Unless you're barbequing ribs, or something special, I'd suggest you leave the BBQ home and trade in the cooking and cleaning time for more riding. The prices were surprisingly reasonable too,.

x2, but its always fun to BBQ if you plan on being there from open till close, but they have alot of like exotic foods there too, like taco salad in a bag, good stuff,
whos riding this weekend?

[Crazy lil punk]

ANYONE?

[rpyfz450]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
x2, but its always fun to BBQ if you plan on being there from open till close, but they have alot of like exotic foods there too, like taco salad in a bag, good stuff,
whos riding this weekend?

I'll be at Rausch Creek in a couple of hours.

[Hammer trx450r]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
ANYONE? [/QUOTE


We went last week and it was horrible, the machine is down and the track is like the surface of the moon.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
ANYONE? [/QUOTE


We went last week and it was horrible, the machine is down and the track is like the surface of the moon.


dam, i want to ride, but i dont really feel like going all the way to blue Diamond and paying 25 bucks because i dont think any one i know is going to be down there, are you?

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
dam, i want to ride, but i dont really feel like going all the way to blue Diamond and paying 25 bucks because i dont think any one i know is going to be down there, are you?

Not this weekend, my babys got a date with some holy water

[Crazy lil punk]

lol, i had to read tht twice, i didnt get it the first time

[Crazy lil punk]

sunday was a good time, the track was nicly groomed

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
sunday was a good time, the track was nicly groomed


Good maybe some of my *****ing worked. But im sure i wasnt the only one to chant

[Crazy lil punk]

yeah i was surprised, it was super smooth, and they came out later in the morning and regrommed it, i was so please for once

[Mean250r]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
yeah i was surprised, it was super smooth, and they came out later in the morning and regrommed it, i was so please for once

when they do groom the track (very rarely) its so much fun

but since the trck is mostly sand gets rutted pretty quick :o

[Crazy lil punk]

dont let this thread die

[JW450R1]

i used to go to chats back in the day,when it wasn't a atv park.there used to be a lot of trails.now i think theres only 3 trails and 3 jumps for the quads.rauch creek and acto is a lot better

[Crazy lil punk]

yeah, but its cheap

[Mean250r]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
yeah, but its cheap

r u nuts!?

50 bucks for the day on a ****ty *** track.

I go there sometimes. but the place flat out sucks. its sand so it gets rutted sooooo fast

[Crazy lil punk]

buy a mebership sherlock! lol, any one want a kick *** pitbike?

[JW450R1]

it should be free

[Hammer trx450r]

I agree, it was free for years before they came and basicly put up a gate and charged you

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
I agree, it was free for years before they came and basicly put up a gate and charged you

yeah, but now u dont have any problems with the cops, be grateful its not like they are asking for your life savings, atco wants like 35 bux to ride and u only get 30 mins every 2 hours.

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
yeah, but now u dont have any problems with the cops, be grateful its not like they are asking for your life savings, atco wants like 35 bux to ride and u only get 30 mins every 2 hours.

First you are comparing apples to oranges, Atco IS a track, that is worth 35 bucks. Second, Its 20 minutes every hour, not so bad.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
First you are comparing apples to oranges, Atco IS a track, that is worth 35 bucks. Second, Its 20 minutes every hour, not so bad.

yeah, i am, but when i was at atco they were running minis, 80s, big bikes, then quads, and it looked like us quad guys got 30 mins every 2 hours, but i was only there once. but still i think chatts is decent, its open 364 days out of the year, IMO

[JW450R1]

i think chats would be awesome if they would install some real jumps like acto,and rausch creek

[JRDrider22]

il be riding chatsworth a lot over the winter becasue im not doing a rebuild. so hopefully il lsee some of you out there

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by JRDrider22
il be riding chatsworth a lot over the winter becasue im not doing a rebuild. so hopefully il lsee some of you out there


ill probally see you a couple times, but im working on a track up the moutains so most of my time will be spent there.

[WhiteYFZ]

Originally posted by JRDrider22
il be riding chatsworth a lot over the winter becasue im not doing a rebuild. so hopefully il lsee some of you out there

i will too hopefully.. if its not reallllyyy cold ill go i guess.. better then nothing... do u guys think ppl actualyl ride there in the winter? anyone go when it snows?

[yellowzo3]

i hopefully will be there a few times during the winter. its about a 2 hour drive for me but its the only place to ride. im not doing a rebuild either so i just want to try and ride if its not too cold out. im not sure how many people ride in the winter, but i heard its really crowded when its nice out. so hopefully there wont be any crowds and it will be mostly empty. if it snows im definatly not going and i doubt many other people will. traveling in bad weather is a hassle, especially for people coming from far away. most people ride around home when theres alot of snow so they probably wouldnt drive to a place that looks the same as in front of their house covered in snow lol.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by yellowzo3
i hopefully will be there a few times during the winter. its about a 2 hour drive for me but its the only place to ride. im not doing a rebuild either so i just want to try and ride if its not too cold out. im not sure how many people ride in the winter, but i heard its really crowded when its nice out. so hopefully there wont be any crowds and it will be mostly empty. if it snows im definatly not going and i doubt many other people will. traveling in bad weather is a hassle, especially for people coming from far away. most people ride around home when theres alot of snow so they probably wouldnt drive to a place that looks the same as in front of their house covered in snow lol.

i ride around the hood when it snows, but when there is no snow im over at chatts, its nice in the winter, the track is usally still decent.

[Over-land 450r]

aha joey ur always ridin in the hood lol. snow or no snow.

[Over-land 450r]

the funny thing is you guys complain about ruts and lips being messed up.

If u did try a real track you will realize that it inst perfeect. the more messed up it is * and if you push yourself you will get better. as for jumps try hitin a duoble for 2 wit 2 ppl on it and wen it throws you 45 degrees.to the 1 side. during a race non the less

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
aha joey ur always ridin in the hood lol. snow or no snow.

gotta do what u gotta do, i didnt get the name crazy lil punk for nothing, I EARNED IT!!!

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
the funny thing is you guys complain about ruts and lips being messed up.

If u did try a real track you will realize that it inst perfeect. the more messed up it is * and if you push yourself you will get better. as for jumps try hitin a duoble for 2 wit 2 ppl on it and wen it throws you 45 degrees.to the 1 side. during a race non the less


i dont really care if sh*t is rough i just get pissed when there is just a mound of dirt and not a jump, tht is when a start to b*tch

[sunco]

I like Breezewood also but its 3 1/2 hrs from us in Jersey. We still ride there but not w/ a membership. We'd go maybe 5 times a year.Support NJORVP so it doesn't go away because if you think you don't have any where to ride now , well you can tell what the outcomes gonna be. Stop the complaints - just ride - you could be home with the wife/girlfriend *****@ ya:eek2:

[Over-land 450r]

dude i dont kno who u r and i dont really care. but i dont kno wat ur tryin to say about Chattsworth and me stayin home wit the girl friend.

And NJORVp is a joke they dont do **** for quaders. the track blows. and all they do is *****. that track doesnt do **** for anybody. And there closing in 08. so why should wew waste our money there??
as for other tracks,, I have plenty of other tracks to go to.

[Crazy lil punk]

when does atco close? i wana go ATCO!!!!

chatts ---is good if u just wana hang out and chill

blue diamond ----is good to practise for racing

atco----is good when you want to go out and bang bars with the best of the best in a hard core game of "stay on the gas or lose your asss."

my hosue up the moutains---im building a sick *** track, BEWARE HATERS!!!!

My house in philly-----is good if u wana be ghetto and ride wheellies for blox!!

[Over-land 450r]

word. aha. Breezewood is to prove wat you have. and rausch is just plain out sick.

[manban]

last practice &race was nov thanksgiving

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
word. aha. Breezewood is to prove wat you have. and rausch is just plain out sick.

i gotta try those places out 2, when are u gonna man up and ride some trails in the ghetto with me? lol

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by manban
last practice &race was nov thanksgiving


ohhh, thanks for the info man

[Over-land 450r]

how much was ur quad? how much was my Front ends??

yeah mayb

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
how much was ur quad? how much was my Front ends??

yeah mayb

WHOS DADDY PAID FOR HIS QUAD AND EVERYTHING ON IT????YOU!!!!!! WHO WORKS THEIR ASSs OFF JUST TO KEEP HIS BIKE RIDEABLE AND FUN???? ME!!! lol

[Over-land 450r]

ahaha. still those trees fu.ck S.hit up.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
ahaha. still those trees fu.ck S.hit up.

i know, those damnn trees are always jumping out in front of my quad, pitbike, bmx bike, just about everything i get on with wheels. lol

[JACK1021]

has anyone been there this lately,plan on going saturday just wanted to know if they have been grooming the track-thank you jack

[Over-land 450r]

i dont kno where ur at but Blue diomond is much better and cheaper.

[JACK1021]

yeah i know...i've been down there the last two weekends.....i LOVE blue diamond but jersey is just a quick trip...to get a last weekend of riding in...

[rpyfz450]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
i dont kno where ur at but Blue diomond is much better and cheaper.

I think the difference is he rides a kx85 and you ride an ATV. You don't have access to the MX track at Chatsworth like he does.

[cujion]

blue diamond is a nice track but also an extra 3 hours of driving for us


were from long island ;)

[JACK1021]

who rides a kx85....?i ride a walsh 450 hybrid

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by rpyfz450
I think the difference is he rides a kx85 and you ride an ATV. You don't have access to the MX track at Chatsworth like he does.

We used to have access to the MX track ;)

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
We used to have access to the MX track ;)


how come we dont anymore?

[rpyfz450]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
We used to have access to the MX track ;)

I remember that!

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
how come we dont anymore?


Because "they suck"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jrspawn]

You guys should come out to Blue diamond tomorrow, ill be there with a couple other guys. Gonna be good weather, hopefully we can get a decent quad turnout there tomorrow.

Thank you
Justin

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by jrspawn
You guys should come out to Blue diamond tomorrow, ill be there with a couple other guys. Gonna be good weather, hopefully we can get a decent quad turnout there tomorrow.

Thank you
Justin


I'll be there Sunday with some guys, u in Sunday or just tomorrow? Hows the track after this weeks digging ? any idea?

[jrspawn]

Hey, not sure on sunday yet. Im def. going tomorrow, but i might head up sunday also, who knows. I was up there thursday hanging out and do to the earlier rain and fog in the week, they hadnt dug yet. I know they were supposed to dig some more lst night out there, im sure they'll have something worked out for us back there though. But maybe ill see you guys up there sunday, ill be scooting around on the little ol 426.

Justin

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by jrspawn
Hey, not sure on sunday yet. Im def. going tomorrow, but i might head up sunday also, who knows. I was up there thursday hanging out and do to the earlier rain and fog in the week, they hadnt dug yet. I know they were supposed to dig some more lst night out there, im sure they'll have something worked out for us back there though. But maybe ill see you guys up there sunday, ill be scooting around on the little ol 426.

Justin

Well im limping with a plate and screws in my shoulder so im not gonna hang it out too much either. But i love to chase u fast guys around, hopefully ill see u out there

[Over-land 450r]

i havent beent here wit the new set-up. cant wait..i hope theres decent do-able jumps

[jrspawn]

hey, come on out man. all the jumps are doable. they have all been doable for the past month or so since I've gottn back in riding and been on the track again. so come on down and have some fun!

justin

[Crazy lil punk]

when did u get a 426, justin?

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by jrspawn
hey, come on out man. all the jumps are doable. they have all been doable for the past month or so since I've gottn back in riding and been on the track again. so come on down and have some fun!

justin

Over-land will be with us on Sunday, stop on out crazy

[jrspawn]

Hey, well today didnt go good at all for me. Didnt even make one full lap out there. The track was in very good shape, and changed up from last weekend. I had my throttle stick wide open before the back two table tops, that was a fun ride, but luckily i was fine. Fixed that issue to go back out and have the quad shut off about 1/2 lap in, i believe my petcock is bad. But after having that happen, i said someone really doesnt want me riding today.......:D so i packed up and came home. Ill prob be out there tomorrow if i can get everything fixed up.

Crazy lil punk, the yz426 is actually my other Walsh quad i had before the walsh yz450. Its def a whole different pace getting used to the 426 again for practice, dont have any seat time on it really at all, but ill get there:devil:

Hopefully ill see you guys tomorrow so we can rip it up out there.

Justin

[Hammer trx450r]

Cool we will definatly be there, look for my truck, we ar all down to earth guys that love to ride and shoot the chit.


PS get that problem fixed before u end up like me.

[jrspawn]

Well just got back from diamond today, thougt it was a great day. We had some changes done tot the track and seemed alot of people liked them. It was cool finally getting to talk to you guys. I was really happy with the quad turnout today there also, and having a fast group of quads there also was cool! Maybe if we get some more nice weather in a couple weeks ill ride again, but as of now the winter rebuild is prob getting ready to start here.

Justin

[Hammer trx450r]

Hey i just got back from Blue too, nice to finally talk to ya Justin. The jumps were so perfect makes for a great day but my clutch took a crap. For 28 bucks its the best place around. like Justin said the were alot of fast guys blazing that track today, great turnout. All u guys wasting your time and money at chatz, u dont know what your missing.

[JACK1021]

justin you get to put in a full day of riding.....no problems with the 426

[cujion]

blue is an awesome track but it's an 1 more hour of driving and just needed to change it up this weekend .

to tell you the truth Chats was the best i've ever seen all the jumps had sweet lips on them think someone said they got a new groomer .

[Over-land 450r]

no its not a new groomer, its just the dumb peice of **** got off his Lazy *** and decided to stop favoring the dirtbikers.

Blue was deffinally nice. i was able to do every thing there today.

Justin i was the kid wit the G-force.. on the 450r. i think u jinksed me. i might have bent it. lol not bad its livable.

only if blue would do sumthing bout the d.am rocks.

[jrspawn]

Hey, that sucks about the axle, but hey, a little bent axle doesnt hurt anything, adds character in my book:D

Being that they are diggin the sand out of the bac half of the track, the rocks did get turned up pretty bad, but the way it ran today we had it miss the bad rocky sections for the most part, i thought it was pretty nice. With upciming weather changes, and more digging, it prob woulnt get better than it was today. But, just give it a little time over winter, it should be worth the wait when better riding weather comes around and winter passes:devil: We just need to keep up a good quad turnout and get some more quads in the area.

Justin

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by jrspawn
Hey, that sucks about the axle, but hey, a little bent axle doesnt hurt anything, adds character in my book:D

Being that they are diggin the sand out of the bac half of the track, the rocks did get turned up pretty bad, but the way it ran today we had it miss the bad rocky sections for the most part, i thought it was pretty nice. With upciming weather changes, and more digging, it prob woulnt get better than it was today. But, just give it a little time over winter, it should be worth the wait when better riding weather comes around and winter passes:devil: We just need to keep up a good quad turnout and get some more quads in the area.

Justin


ugh, its been like foRever since i rode/seen my quad, i probally won't get to ride again till after new years. the last time i was at a track was about 2 months ago........IM GOING THROUGH WITHDRAW. LOL

[yamahamx14]

Crazy lil punk clean out your inbox.

[JRDrider22]

ill be there off and on over the winter to stay in riding shape.. hoep to see some of you out there

[Over-land 450r]

yo joe lloyd pm me ur# i got a new fone and lost it. ill probably be goin to chattsworth soon to.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
yo joe lloyd pm me ur# i got a new fone and lost it. ill probably be goin to chattsworth soon to.


thanks for asking me if i was going riding @$$ hole, lol

[yamahamx14]

yo crazy lil punk r u goin to chats any time soon cause im thinkin about goin down there with and if u want ill bring my pitbike down there so u could get a better look at it

[Over-land 450r]

i still gotta race you on my 80 b*tch WTF nE. way i never said i was going soon, your worst then a girl.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
i still gotta race you on my 80 b*tch WTF nE. way i never said i was going soon, your worst then a girl.

lol calm down

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by yamahamx14
yo crazy lil punk r u goin to chats any time soon cause im thinkin about goin down there with and if u want ill bring my pitbike down there so u could get a better look at it

yeah, i should be going over some time over christmas on my new to me 250r

hehe

[Hammer trx450r]

congrate crazy moving up i see

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
congrate crazy moving up i see

yeah, and santa didnt bring that, i worked my *** of for it, lol

[Hammer trx450r]

Its the only way, good job


Santa just brought me a win over the Cowboys

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
Its the only way, good job


Santa just brought me a win over the Cowboys

that was a gift to all mankind my friend, lol

[Crazy lil punk]

whos going? what day?

[YFZRB]

Sunco, flyboy62, trxenergy65 and I are going on the 6th. We'll be driving the sunrise pickup.

We like to meet site members, so stop in and introduce yourself.

[ny300exrider]

i didnt read the whole thread so im sure this has been covered but if someone could chime in thatd be sweet. can you come to chatsworth and just ride for a day or do you need a membership? if so how much is it for the day? think its worth it for me to drive from eastern long island? im just looking for a cool legal place to chill at and spend a day riding, not bang bars with pro racers and hit 100ft tripples. im getting tired of being chased every time i ride out here so anything is better than what i have. if someone could shoot me over some pics id appreciate it.....thanks

[sunco]

I think its $50 a day. check out their site
http://njorvp.org
If your not a member you can only go on fri,sat,sun.
Try them out other NY dudes go to it. They have food. Not sure what time they open in the am so call. It'll be a fun day - if you don't like it then you know. we're going this sat. the 6th. Maybe we'll see ya there

[Crazy lil punk]

i might be there saterday, i have a red 250r with just about everything, u will hear me before you see me, lol

[YFZRB]

Crazy - one heck of a thread you made.

What gear/helmet color on Sat?

[manban]

I need to ride saturday and temp may go to 68deg , with rain thur night, friday day , and 30% showers on sat & sun . How will that place be on sat? Whens the next time we can ride in jan with 68 degrees on our backs, wet & all......

Yellow LTR450
ac nerfs
blue nets
denton damper

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by YFZRB
Crazy - one heck of a thread you made.

What gear/helmet color on Sat?

crome (blinger lol) helmet with american flag graphics, red fox chest protector, red/white fox/honda pants.

ill probally be the only 250r there

[Crazy lil punk]

might have a black blaster with purple wheels with me

[deathman53]

I went there last sunday, the track was abolutely horrible. I rode 2 laps, then left(I have a membership). I then found out, that their machine is broke. You should call before you go.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by deathman53
I went there last sunday, the track was abolutely horrible. I rode 2 laps, then left(I have a membership). I then found out, that their machine is broke. You should call before you go.

thanks for the headsup man, you heading out there this weekend?

[jrspawn]

You guys should just come on down to blue diamond. The past weekend the track was perfect. Arno, lysinger and some other fast guys were down, Very good day there this past weekend. We should be out there this weekend again.

Justin

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by jrspawn
You guys should just come on down to blue diamond. The past weekend the track was perfect. Arno, lysinger and some other fast guys were down, Very good day there this past weekend. We should be out there this weekend again.

Justin


yeah, but that cost money, chatts is like free, lol, ill be heading down blue soon though.

[jrspawn]

I thought i saw on here someone say chatts is 50 per ride?

Justin

[deathman53]

I am going to rausch creek on saturday. I don't think I gonna renew at chattsworth, the mx track at rausch is just so much better. I' hoping some others are coming along too, If you do go there, I'll be on a trike(probably the only one also), I put new reeds in it, maybe I'll get those two jumps down pat and be able to clear all of the jumps.

[yamahamx14]

my friend might be going down there this weekend if he gets his quad back his friend paul turner in time. paul was doing all engine work and stuff. hell be on a white 450r. i might go if i got nothin to do. i would be on a little green 50 racing through the parking lot. usually i ride either a 400ex or a yz125 but i cant really hit the track with a broken wrist :cuss: :(

[sunco]

I'm enjoing the post.


EVERYONE IS HAPPY;)

ENJOY RIDING WHEREVER YOU GO

[Over-land 450r]

yeah that sat wen Rocco and donny where there was alsome. I was able to seat bounce the old set-up and make it over that hole. couple times i came up short and blew out my Fox shox. HOw the F*CK does that happen?? WTF.it was a good day tho at the end it was really rough. it was a good practice.

[jrspawn]

lol, that was a really bad hole there, but like you said, just a little seat bounce and it was easy to make it over. I had a few close calls with getting a little nose high off the lip of that one a couple times. Sucks about you shock, you gonna get it fixed to be able to ride this weekend?

Justin

[smokin 400]

iwas up at tower city last friday and was it terrible so wet and rutty can tell you i would call first jmop.

[YFZRB]

So we decided to ride chats (NJORVP) yesterday, weather was 65, breezy, sunny. The conditions were sloppy as it had rained a lot the night before.

OK here is the story-

The tracks were all closed all day leaving only the trails open. The trails close at 3:30 the park closes at 4:30.

At about 3:50 we started loading our quads and gear. There were five of us. Myself-38, my best friend 40, his 3 kids all under 14. That's five quads, five sets of gear, plus all the miscellaneous.

At 4:05 the staff comes to our parking spot and tells us we have to leave and now! It was obvious we had already begun packing up so I asked him what the big rush was. He said the park closes at 3:30 and we needed to leave now. At no point were we told that the park closes at 3:30. Only the trails close at 3:30. Were we supposed to ride off the trail onto the trailer and bolt with our gear on? Anyway, another PP (parking lot police) person comes along and asks my friend for his membership cards. They have family season passes for the last 2 seasons. It seems as though the PP's wanted to mark or note that we were violating the rules in some way and called the sign in office to give them the info.

We were then asked (4:15) to load all our remaining riding gear on the truck and finish packing and changing in the driveway outside the park gates. Which we did after some bickering about the time the park closes, and that my friend holds seaon passes, and that we were obviously mostly done anyway. Had they not interupted and harrassed us to leave, we would have left with smiles on our faces and been gone right at 4:30 when the park closes.
(4:22) On the way out, the heavy set blond girl who works in the sign in booth is burning us the look on the way past. I looked on the sign board as we drove by and posted right there is the park hours that state "closes at 4:30". So we stop outside the gate to re-sort all the gear and finish packing. When the staff comes down behind us to lock up we said that we were very disappointed in how we were treated and that we had no idea that the park closed at 3:30 etc etc and we were told ( by the blond) that we were being rude by not being out of the park at 3:30 and tough sh*t about packing up in the driveway. She also said it shouldn't take us more than 15 minutes to pack and leave. 5 Riders 5 quads 5 sets of gear 15 minutes? Come on!

So in conclusion, I will NEVER go there again. I couldn't believe the lack of kindness, professionalism and downright rudeness of the staff. I completely understand that there aren't many places to ride left and that they have us by the ba*ls in some respect, but that doesn't justify treating paying customers like dirt, especially someone who holds a season pass for numerous years. Even if we were unaware of the closing time, we should not have been made to dress ourselves and our children in the driveway. I plan on making every effort to bring this to everyone's attention. I think the park should definitely stay open, but I am calling for an immediate change in staff or management, because the people they have suck, and it is ruining a basically good facility.
I know there will be some flames on this, but the way we were treated was unnecessary and unjustified and I want people to know that this is what they may encounter at Chattsworth the NJORVP.

[JW450R1]

Thats why i stopped going to chats.There track is really not set-up at all.It's funny how the dirt bike track is awesome,and the Quad track suxxx.How is that.We all pay the same amount of money.The last time my buddies all loaded up and went down to ride,Chats was closed 4 a car show.Real nice.We checked the web site the night before an they forgot to note it.real cool.It was a good thing we all had season passes.We had 5-6 months left on passes,and never went back again.........

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by YFZRB
So we decided to ride chats (NJORVP) yesterday, weather was 65, breezy, sunny. The conditions were sloppy as it had rained a lot the night before.

OK here is the story-

The tracks were all closed all day leaving only the trails open. The trails close at 3:30 the park closes at 4:30.

At about 3:50 we started loading our quads and gear. There were five of us. Myself-38, my best friend 40, his 3 kids all under 14. That's five quads, five sets of gear, plus all the miscellaneous.

At 4:05 the staff comes to our parking spot and tells us we have to leave and now! It was obvious we had already begun packing up so I asked him what the big rush was. He said the park closes at 3:30 and we needed to leave now. At no point were we told that the park closes at 3:30. Only the trails close at 3:30. Were we supposed to ride off the trail onto the trailer and bolt with our gear on? Anyway, another PP (parking lot police) person comes along and asks my friend for his membership cards. They have family season passes for the last 2 seasons. It seems as though the PP's wanted to mark or note that we were violating the rules in some way and called the sign in office to give them the info.

We were then asked (4:15) to load all our remaining riding gear on the truck and finish packing and changing in the driveway outside the park gates. Which we did after some bickering about the time the park closes, and that my friend holds seaon passes, and that we were obviously mostly done anyway. Had they not interupted and harrassed us to leave, we would have left with smiles on our faces and been gone right at 4:30 when the park closes.
(4:22) On the way out, the heavy set blond girl who works in the sign in booth is burning us the look on the way past. I looked on the sign board as we drove by and posted right there is the park hours that state "closes at 4:30". So we stop outside the gate to re-sort all the gear and finish packing. When the staff comes down behind us to lock up we said that we were very disappointed in how we were treated and that we had no idea that the park closed at 3:30 etc etc and we were told ( by the blond) that we were being rude by not being out of the park at 3:30 and tough sh*t about packing up in the driveway. She also said it shouldn't take us more than 15 minutes to pack and leave. 5 Riders 5 quads 5 sets of gear 15 minutes? Come on! WTF.
So in conclusion, I will NEVER go there again. I couldn't believe the lack of kindness, professionalism and downright rudeness of the staff. I completely understand that there aren't many places to ride left and that they have us by the ba*ls in some respect, but that doesn't justify treating paying customers like dirt, especially someone who holds a season pass for numerous years. Even if we were unaware of the closing time, we should not have been made to dress ourselves and our children in the driveway. I plan on making every effort to bring this to everyone's attention. I think the park should definitely stay open, but I am calling for an immediate change in staff or management, because the people they have suck, and it is ruining a basically good facility.
I know there will be some flames on this, but the way we were treated was unnecessary and unjustified and I want people to know that this is what they may encounter at Chattsworth the NJORVP.


Does not surprise me at all, the only cool person there is the lady selling food.

[Hammer trx450r]

I'll say it again, if you want to ride at a place where they care about YOU and you having a good day of riding go to Blue Diamond.

[JW450R1]

gotta get there

[Over-land 450r]

yeah blue diomond is very nice. they ppl that work there are very nice also. you can get alot more food there besides just the hot dogs at chatts. and all the ppl at chats hate me because i used to get air in the moderate track or w.e. there is 2 jumps.

I was there talkin to the guy workin that track."Flager or w.e. the hell u want to call him." And it was muddy and this kid fell kinda hard and the guy said he wasnt doin any thing about it b.c. it was cold and muddy and ppl shouldnt be riding today. lol WAt is that. And the flager for the quad track sleeps in that POS truck they have there.

ATco shoudl be open in february on sundays Ohh yeahh

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
yeah blue diomond is very nice. they ppl that work there are very nice also. you can get alot more food there besides just the hot dogs at chatts. and all the ppl at chats hate me because i used to get air in the moderate track or w.e. there is 2 jumps.

I was there talkin to the guy workin that track."Flager or w.e. the hell u want to call him." And it was muddy and this kid fell kinda hard and the guy said he wasnt doin any thing about it b.c. it was cold and muddy and ppl shouldnt be riding today. lol WAt is that. And the flager for the quad track sleeps in that POS truck they have there.

ATco shoudl be open in february on sundays Ohh yeahh

Thats funny Rob, when was that?

[Over-land 450r]

back wen we all had memberships there. in like the winter. lol

[deathman53]

Originally posted by YFZRB
So we decided to ride chats (NJORVP) yesterday, weather was 65, breezy, sunny. The conditions were sloppy as it had rained a lot the night before.

OK here is the story-

The tracks were all closed all day leaving only the trails open. The trails close at 3:30 the park closes at 4:30.

At about 3:50 we started loading our quads and gear. There were five of us. Myself-38, my best friend 40, his 3 kids all under 14. That's five quads, five sets of gear, plus all the miscellaneous.

At 4:05 the staff comes to our parking spot and tells us we have to leave and now! It was obvious we had already begun packing up so I asked him what the big rush was. He said the park closes at 3:30 and we needed to leave now. At no point were we told that the park closes at 3:30. Only the trails close at 3:30. Were we supposed to ride off the trail onto the trailer and bolt with our gear on? Anyway, another PP (parking lot police) person comes along and asks my friend for his membership cards. They have family season passes for the last 2 seasons. It seems as though the PP's wanted to mark or note that we were violating the rules in some way and called the sign in office to give them the info.

We were then asked (4:15) to load all our remaining riding gear on the truck and finish packing and changing in the driveway outside the park gates. Which we did after some bickering about the time the park closes, and that my friend holds seaon passes, and that we were obviously mostly done anyway. Had they not interupted and harrassed us to leave, we would have left with smiles on our faces and been gone right at 4:30 when the park closes.
(4:22) On the way out, the heavy set blond girl who works in the sign in booth is burning us the look on the way past. I looked on the sign board as we drove by and posted right there is the park hours that state "closes at 4:30". So we stop outside the gate to re-sort all the gear and finish packing. When the staff comes down behind us to lock up we said that we were very disappointed in how we were treated and that we had no idea that the park closed at 3:30 etc etc and we were told ( by the blond) that we were being rude by not being out of the park at 3:30 and tough sh*t about packing up in the driveway. She also said it shouldn't take us more than 15 minutes to pack and leave. 5 Riders 5 quads 5 sets of gear 15 minutes? Come on! WTF.
So in conclusion, I will NEVER go there again. I couldn't believe the lack of kindness, professionalism and downright rudeness of the staff. I completely understand that there aren't many places to ride left and that they have us by the ba*ls in some respect, but that doesn't justify treating paying customers like dirt, especially someone who holds a season pass for numerous years. Even if we were unaware of the closing time, we should not have been made to dress ourselves and our children in the driveway. I plan on making every effort to bring this to everyone's attention. I think the park should definitely stay open, but I am calling for an immediate change in staff or management, because the people they have suck, and it is ruining a basically good facility.
I know there will be some flames on this, but the way we were treated was unnecessary and unjustified and I want people to know that this is what they may encounter at Chattsworth the NJORVP.

I was never treated like that, they left the track longer when I was there and never rushed me out, but also, this is the weekdays. I was the only person on the atv track(only atv there), I aksed them to turn the sprinklers off, they did. I don't know, I have been going there since 02, everybody is very nice to me.
The place has been going down-hill in the past 2 years, the track has gone from somewhat decent to better and now its the absolute pitts. They seam to close early days that are slow, I think its because it costs moeny to keep it open and if a few are there, its a waste of money. Not right, but it is. I was at a meeting where I spoke about the atv track and how bad is was, it improved for a few months, but got back crappy again, at that meeting they talked about closing the place tues-thurs duirng the winter months as it costs too much to keep it open, verses how many show up.
It was not fair how you were treated, I know that the trails close about 45 minutes beore the park and the tracks 30 minutes. They should stick to the posted hours, not make up their own.

[flyboy62]

what is the web site for blue diomond?

[YFZRB]

Thanks for the support and feedback.

I sent an e-mail to the park director about this and I'm waiting on a respose. It sounds like they need a serious changing of the guard at that place.

We were really disappointed about all of the tracks being closed and staying closed. I walked around the entire atv track and it was mostly dry. And it was breezy and sunny to help dry it out if we did mush it up. I asked the personell about this and was told the dozer operator doesn't like to grade the tracks when it's muddy.
My opinion = let us ride the track, muddy it up and on Monday (when no one is around) grade the track. It was definately ridable. Oh well - lesson learned!

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by YFZRB
Thanks for the support and feedback.

I sent an e-mail to the park director about this and I'm waiting on a respose. It sounds like they need a serious changing of the guard at that place.

We were really disappointed about all of the tracks being closed and staying closed. I walked around the entire atv track and it was mostly dry. And it was breezy and sunny to help dry it out if we did mush it up. I asked the personell about this and was told the dozer operator doesn't like to grade the tracks when it's muddy.
My opinion = let us ride the track, muddy it up and on Monday (when no one is around) grade the track. It was definately ridable. Oh well - lesson learned!

the track was barley rideable today, everyone was sinking their quad in the back turn, and i pretty much drug my swingarm through the whole track, i cant imagine how bad it was saterday. i dont ever have a problem at the track, but how you were treated was totally uncool.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
Does not surprise me at all, the only cool person there is the lady selling food.

x2, she is a very nice lady.

[sunco]

http://bluediamondpark.com/

[manban]

Originally posted by YFZRB
Thanks for the support and feedback.

I sent an e-mail to the park director about this and I'm waiting on a respose. It sounds like they need a serious changing of the guard at that place.

We were really disappointed about all of the tracks being closed and staying closed. I walked around the entire atv track and it was mostly dry. And it was breezy and sunny to help dry it out if we did mush it up. I asked the personell about this and was told the dozer operator doesn't like to grade the tracks when it's muddy.
My opinion = let us ride the track, muddy it up and on Monday (when no one is around) grade the track. It was definately ridable. Oh well - lesson learned!


I sent one also, polite and to the point. ;)

[manban]

Can anyone close to chattsworth give me a heads-up saturday morning .... It will be a 2hr drive for me and I need to ride bad.... especially @ 57degrees....

Thanks

[jrspawn]

Just come to blue diamond.

Justin

[Over-land 450r]

yeah dont even bother waiting for that fone call. just pack p and go to blue 100x better then Chatts. it isnt in the middle of nowhere and there is a WaWa and the have a actuall snack bar so you dont have to eat just a hotdog. just go to blue.

Later

[YFZRB]

Manban I don't know where you are in Jersey, but go to Breezewood or Blue diamond or Rausch.

Don't go to Chattsworthless until they change the staff.

The current Chattsworthless staff sucks.

Yeah, I'm still pissed. I still haven't heard anything from the park director.:grr:

[dan harris]

Wow Rich, Thats a pretty crazy story. I'd like to say that I can't believe how badly you were treated, but I'm well aware of how some tracks treat their riders. I was always amazed when signing up for a race how moody and irritable some of the staff would seem. Its like man were all here suppose to be doing something we love and enjoy, racing and riding is our vacation!! We don't deserve or need to put up with rude staff. You wouldn't put up with a rude waiter at a restuarant, or mean staff at a hotel. If these people don't like what they are doing - get another freakin Job. There are plenty of friendly people wanting to work at a place they love and enjoy. Shame on the staff and the owners of Chatsworth. I know there's not many parks in NJ to choose from, but your doing the right thing by not supporting them. If Blue Diamond and Atco care more about their riders then they are the parks to ride and support.

[YFZRB]

Well put my friend, well put

[flyboy62]

rich was going pretty good at them

[Hammer trx450r]

Originally posted by dan harris
Wow Rich, Thats a pretty crazy story. I'd like to say that I can't believe how badly you were treated, but I'm well aware of how some tracks treat their riders. I was always amazed when signing up for a race how moody and irritable some of the staff would seem. Its like man were all here suppose to be doing something we love and enjoy, racing and riding is our vacation!! We don't deserve or need to put up with rude staff. You wouldn't put up with a rude waiter at a restuarant, or mean staff at a hotel. If these people don't like what they are doing - get another freakin Job. There are plenty of friendly people wanting to work at a place they love and enjoy. Shame on the staff and the owners of Chatsworth. I know there's not many parks in NJ to choose from, but your doing the right thing by not supporting them. If Blue Diamond and Atco care more about their riders then they are the parks to ride and support.


Yeah Blue and atco are awesome, but im hearing great things from your place too. Maybe you can tell us how far your place is from Phili so everyone can try it out.

[YFZRB]

Hammer,

Go to the link in my sig. then mapquest it.

[dan harris]

Hammer,

Thanks for your interest in the Breezewood Proving Grounds. We are located in South Central PA, we are 12 miles from the Breezewood Exit on the PA Turnpike. I would use mapquest to get to breezewood then follow our directions on the website to get from Breezewood to the Park.

If using Gps our co-ordinates at the gate are: N39degrees 52.804
w078degrees 18.041

I hope that helps. For anyone wanting to make a two or 3 day trip we have killer cabin rentals at the park, and breezewood is known as the town of motels and hotels.

I look forward to riding with everyone!! Our website is www.breezewoodprovinggrounds.com and our info line is (814) 748-3605.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by dan harris
Hammer,

Thanks for your interest in the Breezewood Proving Grounds. We are located in South Central PA, we are 12 miles from the Breezewood Exit on the PA Turnpike. I would use mapquest to get to breezewood then follow our directions on the website to get from Breezewood to the Park.

If using Gps our co-ordinates at the gate are: N39degrees 52.804
w078degrees 18.041

I hope that helps. For anyone wanting to make a two or 3 day trip we have killer cabin rentals at the park, and breezewood is known as the town of motels and hotels.

I look forward to riding with everyone!! Our website is www.breezewoodprovinggrounds.com and our info line is (814) 748-3605.


map quest says 3 hours and 40 minutes from philly....

[YFZRB]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
map quest says 3 hours and 40 minutes from philly....

Totally worth the trip.

And no I still haven't heard from the park director in response to the BS that happened. I even sent him another e-mail, but no response. :confused:

[Hammer trx450r]

Those idiots dont know how to read an e-mail

[Crazy lil punk]

i might go for a weekend with some buds, but it wont become my new weekend hot spot, lol, ill be at blue next weekend i hope though

[YFZRB]

Mr. Baker,

I apologize for the delay as I was away on vacation for a couple of weeks. I reviewed it. If it were handled on your part in an adult manner for example writing me after leaving the park (without the foul language and abuse of the staff). I would have agreed you had until 4:30 and discussed it with all involved (Which I have) and discussed a resolution for inconvenience. The way you chose to handle it with the foul language and abuse of our staff as well as in the presence of children was unfortunate. With all that has occurred including these posts I tend to agree with the manager that at this point your not welcome at the park. if your friend wishes to have his memberships re-instated he will need to attend the February membership meeting. It is really unfortunate to have allowed this minor disagreement to explode in to this. I am sure this is not how you want your customers to handle disputes at your place of employment (using and abusing you and your fellow employees). I really wish you had just kept the foul language to yourself so I would be offering you some freebie now, instead of what is currently occurring. You did neglect state they did not even yell at your group for the disregard of the rules by riding and doing donuts in the parking lot prior to loading up (without any safety gear as well). I am sorry that this could not have been worked out in an amicable manner. If you wish to discuss this person to person feel free to email your number and I'll give you a call.


Sincerely,

Dennis Farmer

[YFZRB]

Mr. Farmer,

Here is the text from my initial letter copied and pasted from below:

“Mr. Farmer,

After our visit to your park yesterday, here is my feedback. My screen name is YFZRB.

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=232893&perpage=15&pagenumber=28[/url]

Rich Baker"


I certainly do not see this as abusive or foul. Nor did I (we) use abusive or foul language in our discussion with your staff or in my description of events in my forum post. I clearly see this as a poor attempt to portray us (me) as the instigator in this situation.

As far as the donuts, yes I did a donut in the parking lot wearing only my riding pants, helmet, and riding boots. No chest protector or goggles. There was a rider doing donuts for at least 15 minutes across the parking lot from us at the same time. Were they treated the same way as we were? I have witnessed on my other visit to your park many people doing donuts in the parking lot, berming the wood chip piles etc. Also, due to track closings, there were a few young children riding up and down the driving lane nearly all day on our last visit. It is clearly stated in your rules:

23. All riding is limited to designated areas only.

The parking lot and entry lane is a riding area? This was in clear view of staff. The red headed staff member was even helping the kids when they got stuck. I do not take issue with the children riding where they were. I do take issue with you grasping for any small infringement on our part to validate the unprofessional behavior of your staff.

As far as not being welcome back to the park, I am fine with this. I have read the feedback from the ATV Riders forum and find that many people are in agreement with my assessment of your staff. There are far better facilities that are appreciative of our patronage and they will be the ones we will enjoy our sport with.

Furthermore, your response to me in the e-mail states “I would have agreed you had until 4:30.” That should be enough to recognize that as patrons we were correct. I don't recall the foul language issue, nor do any of my riding partners. I'd also like to remind you that my friend brought his family riders, who are ages 9, 12, & 13. At no time did they violate any park rules, yet you are asking me to have him show up at the February meeting or you will not let his family ride at the park. That family has been members for 3 years. You should contact him directly.

This entire discussion would be a non issue had your staff let us continue to load up & leave the property as per the 4:30 closing time.

Rich Baker

[YFZRB]

Sorry bout the long posts folks. :rolleyes: But I wanted to post both sides of the discussion.

Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Those few of you who have met me and know me a little can see clear through this guys story. So I'll say it again steer clear of NJORVP.

[flyboy62]

rich like my profile:confused: ,

i like the smilies:D

[YFZRB]

Much much better!

:cool:

[Crazy lil punk]

Ill be there sunday with a couple guys

[deathman53]

did they fix the machine, yet???? Is that track still very lame? I might go on sunday , if the track is groomed. I will probably ride my atc250r. Don't ask me why, I like my trikes better than my quads.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by deathman53
did they fix the machine, yet???? Is that track still very lame? I might go on sunday , if the track is groomed. I will probably ride my atc250r. Don't ask me why, I like my trikes better than my quads.

I called today and they said they groomed the track right before it froze so i guess its perfect, i dont care, Im dying to ride my R

[Hammer trx450r]

To me it reads " we groomed it a couple a weeks ago and it froze this weekend and we cant do anything with the frozen ruts"




LMAO

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
To me it reads " we groomed it a couple a weeks ago and it froze this weekend and we cant do anything with the frozen ruts"




LMAO


yeah, but atleast its a place to ride, I'm not a greedy b*tch, I'll take what I can get.

but I do see your point, lol

[Hammer trx450r]

Did you just call me a greedy *****? If i was greedy i would be riding all the tracks:confused:

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
Did you just call me a greedy *****? If i was greedy i would be riding all the tracks:confused: \

nooo, not at all, I'm just saying I dont care how the track is, as long as I'm riding, I'm happy, sorry if you took that the wrong way man

[Hammer trx450r]

Im just kidden crazy, i actually will probably be out there tomorrow. stop over and chat.

[Hammer trx450r]

Did anyone go today? How was the track?????????

[JW450R1]

is chats still closing down.did they make the"quad track"any better or is it still a gocart track?i don't understand how they can really charge for somethig like that:rolleyes:

[Over-land 450r]

HAMMER. he pmd me and said u were more then a greedy *****. lol. Nahh j.p. i cant wait to riide. i hope it is rough so i can get some good practice. 40% chance of wetness tonite and 30% Today(sunday) im sending this a 1:00 A.M. dress Warm *****es

[Crazy lil punk]

damn radiator lines.........That is like the last thing i would expect to go wrong.

[Hammer trx450r]

Its a shame cause the track was great for once.

[Over-land 450r]

ahaha. yeah it was rough but good practice. that table top isnt to bad. considering the landing is 4 ft left of the take off and going left.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
Its a shame cause the track was great for once.

yeah, I got a couple laps in. But stock shocks arnt very fun on +2 aarms, lol

[Over-land 450r]

haha yeah. i found out if you jump amd dont stand up./ land sitting down it makes your body sore. lol. Dont do it. whos goin this weekend?? im gonna try to talk to the groomer and see Wats up.

[Crazy lil punk]

how was it this weekend? anyone up for next?

[yamahamx14]

yo just jump in the big machine thing and groom the track yourself and if they say you cant do that then tell them to get off their fat @ss and do it then. Sorry, but everytime i hear about this track all i hear is that they never groom it and the machine is always broke or its poor conditions to groom it or some BS like that

[YFZRB]

Originally posted by yamahamx14
yo just jump in the big machine thing and groom the track yourself and if they say you cant do that then tell them to get off their fat @ss and do it then. Sorry, but everytime i hear about this track all i hear is that they never groom it and the machine is always broke or its poor conditions to groom it or some BS like that

Exactly!

Chattsworthless ROTS! :grr:

[JW450R1]

Chats is not worth the gas in your truck to get there

[Hammer trx450r]

It was actually nice last weekend.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by YFZRB
Exactly!

Chattsworthless ROTS! :grr:


dude, you have to calm down, I understand that they treated you like ****, but they are people too, they arn't perfect, and some times they have a bad day and just want to go home, some of them are @$$holes, I agree, but there arn't many places left to ride so sometimes you just got let it go and "git r done"

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by JW450R1
Chats is not worth the gas in your truck to get there


I dont no about you, but after I work my @ss off in school all week I don't care where I have to ride, as long as I get to ride.

[JW450R1]

For me it's not even the a**hole people there.the track is not even challenging at all.Chatts will not even do anything about it either.the dirt bike track is good.how can that be. The quad people pay the same to get threw their gate

[Hammer trx450r]

The dirt bike guys go to all the meetings, how many do you go to?

[yamahamx14]

the dirtbike track isnt that great either, i would rather go to e town

[deathman53]

we have held our breath long enough, e-town is re-opening the atv track, I believe in March.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by deathman53
we have held our breath long enough, e-town is re-opening the atv track, I believe in March.


whats it cost to get in there?

[deathman53]

I don't know, yet. It was $30 last time it was open, probably is up to $40. I didn't go there when they had the practice days before the races, I would imagine its a similar price.

[yamahamx14]

i went there the last day they had the practice track open for 2006 and it was still $30. I didn't even know etown had a seperate track for quads, i thought they just ran them on the race track when there wasnt a race.

[manban]

How solid is this E-Town Talk?

[deathman53]

they do ride on the race track, I have heard from the owners that it will be open.

[Crazy lil punk]

Ill be there tomorrow (sunday)

[JRDrider22]

turned out to be an okay day. hopefulyl we can have some more once this storm gets outta here

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by JRDrider22
turned out to be an okay day. hopefulyl we can have some more once this storm gets outta here


I have a bigger problem then the storm now, I blew my top end, and I need to get my suspesnion, So I'm out for a little

btw-you are really fast Joey, never really seen you ride before

[Over-land 450r]

haha. it was fun.

[JRDrider22]

thanks brosive. sucks bout ur motor, but it happens to all of us once in a while. ima try to get out there sunday pending on weather.

[JRDrider22]

OH YEA AND THE E-TOWN TALK IS FINAL. WE WILL HAVE PRACTICE

GO TO

WWW.RACEWAYPARK.COM

GO TO SCHEDULES FOR QUADS AND WE HAVE I BELIVE THE FIRST SUNDAY IN MARCH

[yamahamx14]

ill probably try to go down the weekend after this one because this weekend is definetly going to be terrible because of the snow. I don't know how much they got down there but up in northern jersey there was a good amount. Probably enough down there for them to say that they cant groom the track. If E-town isnt open for practice ill be there with my new CRF450 and a YZ125. For now im done with quads, and maybe for good.

[Crazy lil punk]

anyone go today? I still havent torn down my motor yet...I'm sick :(

[440challenger]

That quad looks fimialr crazy, i think i rode with you in that poker run. i had the stock 400ex 06 black

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by 440challenger
That quad looks fimialr crazy, i think i rode with you in that poker run. i had the stock 400ex 06 black

Wasn't me, lol, I really wanted to go to the pokerrun but couldn't make it. The bike in your sig is soo sick, is that yours?

[440challenger]

oh ok you must have a twin then lol. Yes the quad in my sig is mine, i built it. Will have some +2 a arms this week wooo

[deathman53]

anybody going there on the 24th or 25th? I might be there. I wonder how lame the track has become, or/and badly groomed? Last time I went, I rode one lap of the atv track and one of the intermediate track, then packed up and left. It was so badly groomed. Is it just me? or does this place get worse and worse as time goes?? Last year its wasn't this bad and there were something you could call jumps, last time I went it was like a badly groomed tt track. I have my membership, but doubt I will be going much unless somewhere better to ride isn't open. If I do go, I will be riding a trx250r or atc250r, neither are much of a description of being stock.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by 440challenger
oh ok you must have a twin then lol. Yes the quad in my sig is mine, i built it. Will have some +2 a arms this week wooo

that is so cool, was it a hard swap?

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by deathman53
anybody going there on the 24th or 25th? I might be there. I wonder how lame the track has become, or/and badly groomed? Last time I went, I rode one lap of the atv track and one of the intermediate track, then packed up and left. It was so badly groomed. Is it just me? or does this place get worse and worse as time goes?? Last year its wasn't this bad and there were something you could call jumps, last time I went it was like a badly groomed tt track. I have my membership, but doubt I will be going much unless somewhere better to ride isn't open. If I do go, I will be riding a trx250r or atc250r, neither are much of a description of being stock.


last time I was there the track was decent, jumps were pretty nice

[Crazy lil punk]

my buddy rob, (overland450r) has contacted chatts about changing the track lay out for spring, and they told him to send his plans to them, any one with ideas?

[yamahamx14]

i think they should start by building some jumps on it!!! :D lol

But seriously, i think they should build up the table tops, maybe put some doubles in, but from what i have seen there is a good amount of people that ride that track that arent really expierienced with jumping, so the jumps shouldnt be HUGE. I like the two lane thing that they have for this reason. I dont know how well this would go with the quads, but i would want them to put in a nice whoop section on the mx track. I probably wont be riding the atv mx track this summer, unless i borrow a quad from a friend, but I really think they should redesign all the tracks.

[Over-land 450r]

from wat i drew up, there is 3 more tabletops, 2 whoop sections a single that im goin to try to get them to put 2 singles together so you can double it.
Im also throwing in an off camber turn( where the hair pin turn is.)
for better drainage.

Joe is there anyway you can post it? and can you scan it and send it to him for me?

[Over-land 450r]

he also told me he can get the little kids off but they have to have a 30-45min break for them to ride. which is fair, they also do it on the dirtbike track.

[yamahamx14]

Originally posted by Over-land 450r
he also told me he can get the little kids off but they have to have a 30-45min break for them to ride. which is fair, they also do it on the dirtbike track.

well thats good... im all for younger and/or more inexpierienced riders to learn how to do the jumps and ride motocross, but putting them on the track with a bunch of faster, more expierienced riders wouldn't be safe. With better tracks (and maybe some better customer service), chats will definetly attract a bigger crowd (probably a faster crowd). Last time I went there was a kid was riding the quad track, and he wasn't a very expierienced rider (so he was a good amount slower then everyone else). Well, i dont know if it is inexpierience or stupidity, but the kid stopped his quad on the landing of a small table and ended up getting jumped on by the park owners son. Getting those type of riders of the track when the faster people are riding is going to make chats a safer place all around.

Maybe they should do how englishtown does it. when you sign up and pay they will ask you your expierience level (beginner, novice, amatur, or expert). Then they will have 20 or 30 minute motos for each class and rotate. It seems to work pretty well.

[deathman53]

I tried 2 years ago to make the track better, I went over with the groomer on the changes. He called be back about a week later, the board wouldn't approve it. They said it was too much like a race track. The track has gotten worse recently, the 2 tabletops in the back have disappeared, it is now a real kiddie track. If any of you been to landing mx, the advanced novice mx track is far better than chatt's track, this is sad. Part of the problem there is the kids, there is a fair share of the adults who can't ride also. 1/2 - 3/4 of these people I can beat on my 200x, while they are riding anything from a 400ex to raptor. the park cators to the crowd that shows, if race people come, the track might be better, but if the same kids and adults who don't know how to ride keep coming the track will be lame. The last time I said something to them about how lame the track was they told me, that they got alot of people who complained that the track was too advanced and dangerous for them and their kids. Considering this, you really think they are gonna make it to a more race like track?????

[yamahamx14]

if the track as it is now is too advanced for them or their kids then they should probably not be riding on that track. They should just stick with the intermediate track or the beginner area.

[rpyfz450]

Originally posted by deathman53
I tried 2 years ago to make the track better, I went over with the groomer on the changes. He called be back about a week later, the board wouldn't approve it.

440ex4me also tried to get them to change it, but was unsuccessful. They're probably too regulated by the pine land authority that leases them the land.

[Crazy lil punk]

the less advanced riders (kids and adults) should stick to the intermidiate track, not the PRO track, if we get kicked off the intermediate track, they should get kicked of the pro track. Maybee there should be a set lap time you have to beat to ride the track, lol

[rpyfz450]

Originally posted by yamahamx14
if the track as it is now is too advanced for them or their kids then they should probably not be riding on that track.

I don't think slower riders should be separated from faster riders. Chatsworth does not hold races so you should not be running children down because you're not going to see a checkered flag anyway.

Maybe the problem is not the slower riders, but with the faster riders. Faster riders can go to Englishtown or Atco where slower riders are less likely to be.

[yamahamx14]

Originally posted by rpyfz450
I don't think slower riders should be separated from faster riders. Chatsworth does not hold races so you should not be running children down because you're not going to see a checkered flag anyway.

Maybe the problem is not the slower riders, but with the faster riders. Faster riders can go to Englishtown or Atco where slower riders are less likely to be.

Im just saying that it is dangerous for a slow, inexpierienced rider (who probably should be riding on the track in the first place) to ride on the same track with faster riders.

So, from what you are saying some people should not ride at chats because we are more expierienced, quicker, and because some beginners dont know their abilities and ride on tracks that they probably do not belong on.

BTW englishtown has an intermediate/beginner track as well, and that is what the beginners ride. They do seperate the faster riders from the slower ones. A lot of beginners ride e town, enough to where they make their own class!

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by rpyfz450
I don't think slower riders should be separated from faster riders. Chatsworth does not hold races so you should not be running children down because you're not going to see a checkered flag anyway.

Maybe the problem is not the slower riders, but with the faster riders. Faster riders can go to Englishtown or Atco where slower riders are less likely to be.

okay, did you read my last post? Children have a children's and begginer track, they shouldnt be on the pro track, i shouldn't have to get yelled at by some little kids dad because i passed them both when they were going so slow that they are a danger to other rides and them selves, Im not trying to be a d*ck, I want little guys to be out there ripping it up, but ride the right track.

[rpyfz450]

Originally posted by yamahamx14
you are saying some people should not ride at chats because we are more expierienced, quicker

Chatsworth is particularly accomodating to beginners. I think it's fair that advanced riders respect that.