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Thread: The CVT world is under attack...WHY? Your thoughts...

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    if you read the thread you will see all kinds of people who have rode CVT's and, based on their experience, believe its a great way to go. I don't know what else you are wanting to learn. You are the one that declared CVT's a cancer to the entire sport so I think we are all waiting to hear an intelligent, rational reason how you came to your opinion. We have offered opinions based on experience which is probably the preferred method to offer up an opinion, not the only way but probably the best way. Most everyone gave their experience......what else is there?
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    the statement that gets me is, "were done! switching to bikes! selling our quads."
    why???
    you spent the money, have the quad, have the spare parts, why sell out? then why complain about how much money you lost? keep the dang thing and race it locally, heck, it's been stated several times that the base starts at the local track. bikes are cheaper to buy, so even for a working class guy it's not that big a deal to keep the quad and pick up a used dirt bike and race both at your local track. trust me, I'm not a rich man and have been able to keep a fleet of quads and bikes.
    as far as cvt versus shifters, again, I paid for my cvt's and I'm gonna race them until we age out. I also run a shifter. yes, we all know at some point you have to shift, so it's not that big a deal to pick up a used shifter and race them both. again, I'm not a wealthy person. the wife and I both work and give up on things for our selves so as the kid can race.
    racing of any kind aint cheap so stop griping about cost. heck, have you ever priced a top of the line BMX pedal bike? it will blow your mind.

    and if you are a quitter, so be it, but no need to be a loud mouth and distract any possible new comers to our sport.
    nothing worse than hearing, "we love it, but screw it, were out"
    shut up and race or shut up and stay home, either way, unless your promoting the sport, just shut up.

    and one last thing, for you guys who think you can switch to dirt bikes and lay around in the pits instead of working on cvt's. just wait, those little ktm's and cobra's are just as big a pain in the butt and will still cost you a bunch of money. been there done that.
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    Well said just pick up a shifter but still going to run the cvt.Now lets go racing"

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    IMO, the cancer is the PG. That's promotors group OR politics group as it really is.
    They are the ones that listen to only certain ppl to make the rules and classes. Thus unappropriat rule/class changes.
    One guy shouldn't have a say in rules/classes cuz he may make money, but it's alright for another company to to do the same.
    I hope that helps you understand that aspect of it Mr.Stevo.
    "CVT's don't have a place in motocross". Huh? The lil KTM's/cobra/etc don't have a clutch yet are raced and a great starting point. Maybe not a exact CVT, but same thing IMO.
    CVT's have a place because Joe the plumbers employee that lives in the trailer court could never start out on a shifter for cost reasons. They have no dealer options for a mod shifter, no idea they are even made. So they buy a CVT and starts the learning process with his/her child. Alot of kids work right beside their parents forming yet another family bond. The same happens with the ever popular wrench demanding mod quads.
    I see no difference between CVT's and mods as far as maint. If you want your kid to race, you maintain, CVT or mod.

    This shifting nonsence:: ok, 1996, my daughter is at Lorretta's waiting to beat up on the boys (in both motos) in the 90 limited class and she seen a 90 mod for sale. Seeins I refused to pay that kind of money to buy a mod, She went down to the guy with $100 and rented it for the weekend. She (never being on a shifter) jumped on and got 3rd place. No biggie shifting. Now if my frail lil girl can do it with no issues, surely others can too.

    I'd like to thank the thequadfather+2 for his common sence reply's. Best of the bunch IMO.

    I think the vast majority has spoken and CVT's will be around for a long time making kids smile.
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    I apologize for offending anyone with my choice of words. My comments were not meant for those who have a CVT, but the technology itself. I've just never experienced or heard, in any motorsport, the SOURCE of so many complaints and parents actually quitting, to be the transmission of a racing machine. My views probably will not change. I've learned the rewards may be great for some. I just hope the risk to our sport is less, that's all.

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    If you look around at the track the dads you see thrashing on cvts after every moto still do the same when they swap to shifters. This is not for all but something for everyone to pay attention to lol. Now for my son and myself weekdays are for cleaning testing and maintaince weekends are for racing and fun. Yes some times stuff breaks lol that is part of racing. I have been around gocart drag and several other types of racing they are all the same. Last night at the races quadfather and myself talked about this. Our boys and Dawson pig started this about the same time then Henson came around if you think cvts are all work look at the records of theses 5 boys lots and lots of laps and very few DNF. But lots of fun and family time. We will never make a living at quad racing or any other type of racing but we will always be in some type of racing. Remember these are kids not grown men supporting family's have fun do what you want if you don't like it you have several options it's your call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickpan View Post
    Well said just pick up a shifter but still going to run the cvt.Now lets go racing"
    yes sir, race both, cvt and the shifter. have for a couple years now and will continue to do so. when we race local, we run the quads and the dirtbikes. it's not that big of a deal.
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    no its not,she learned how to shift on sat and she is ready to race.

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    I know everyone has thoughts and opinions, but I think this thread caused more harm than good. This thread did not help resolve an issue, nor did it help get word to any ruling organizations about what the parents truly want. In my humble opinion it caused lots of rifts between people in the same sport and that's very bad in my books.
    Please everyone, remember we are all in this together. No mater if you run a CVT or not. We are a group of parents who's kids race and have fun together. the more that get emotional and leave the sport the harder it makes for race organizations to survive. So let's respect our fellow parent and lets keep politics out of racing. Lets just go out and let the kids ride and have some fun. After all, that is exactly why we all do it, and if that is not why you do it, your doing it wrong.....

    see ya'll on the track and god bless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscarmayer View Post
    I know everyone has thoughts and opinions, but I think this thread caused more harm than good. This thread did not help resolve an issue, nor did it help get word to any ruling organizations about what the parents truly want. In my humble opinion it caused lots of rifts between people in the same sport and that's very bad in my books.
    Please everyone, remember we are all in this together. No mater if you run a CVT or not. We are a group of parents who's kids race and have fun together. the more that get emotional and leave the sport the harder it makes for race organizations to survive. So let's respect our fellow parent and lets keep politics out of racing. Lets just go out and let the kids ride and have some fun. After all, that is exactly why we all do it, and if that is not why you do it, your doing it wrong.....

    see ya'll on the track and god bless.
    that's what I was trying to say, you just said it nicer.
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