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RiPPiNiTuP7
09-10-2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by RIjon
Wow looking at that HIGH res pic.....

WTF is up with the VICE GRIPS :confused:

WTF is the stuff Hanging off the bottom (Torn) :confused:

DOESN'T look like an ALUM frame to me :rolleyes:

Looks Like a Glorified 400ex to me

vice grips=prolly holding the nerf to the footpeg.

stuff hangin=ac puts like a protective film over their skids...prolly forgot to take it off

i agree 100%....looks like an updated ex to me..nothin to get excited about.

edit* woohoo 1000 replies to this thread:rolleyes:

86atc250r
09-10-2003, 10:20 AM
The CRF engine has a certain way about glorifying the frame it's in..

Question - how many of you have complaints about the handling of a 400EX or 250R?

Why would you complain if Honda put the CRF engine in a similar chassis?

I think the nose is cut high like that to provide good airflow to the radiator - but that's just a guess....

jesshamner
09-10-2003, 10:20 AM
Damn, that thing is ugly! What is the dial for right underneath the headlight? Where is the cooling system?

FatBoy Redrider
09-10-2003, 10:22 AM
I want a crf motor in an 86 R chassis. Anything less and I won't be happy. my R out handled my ex by far.

RiPPiNiTuP7
09-10-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by 86atc250r
The CRF engine has a certain way about glorifying the frame it's in..

Question - how many of you have complaints about the handling of a 400EX or 250R?

Why would you complain if Honda put the CRF engine in a similar chassis?

I think the nose is cut high like that to provide good airflow to the radiator - but that's just a guess....

nothing wrong with that, but i was just hoping for "new high tech trick doo dads" thats all....from what i see of the trx it looks like a 400ex with a different engine, plastic and a few other things, but who knows, maybe theres more to be seen still. basically i was expecting something new to the game...an alum frame...fuel injection....something.....

wilkin250r
09-10-2003, 10:28 AM
Yeah, it's ugly, but looks aren't the true test of a machine.

2000400EX
09-10-2003, 10:29 AM
If that actually IS the new trx450r, I don't think it looks too bad. What do looks mean anyway,as long as it handles like it should and has sufficient power for a race quad? Most people are going to probably modify the plastics, remove the headlights, mod out the motor, etc. anyway! Just my two cents. I just can't wait to see this thing in person!:blah:

jmoney45
09-10-2003, 10:29 AM
any other pics of different angles floating around? or just the high res pic of the front?

wilkin250r
09-10-2003, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by jesshamner
Damn, that thing is ugly! What is the dial for right underneath the headlight? Where is the cooling system?

I think that dial is actually the rear shock rezzie :huh

09-10-2003, 10:34 AM
That is definitely it, just missing the tank though. Out of respect to not name names, it was loaned to one company, who sent it to one of their top retailers, then to another aftermarket company where it was being mocked up and fitted for their new stuff, that's when the picture was snapped! Steel frame, aluminum sub, kick start no reverse should put it in the 335 range. In the high resolution pic, you can figure out the players.
OUT!:macho

jesshamner
09-10-2003, 10:35 AM
Do people normally put the rear shock rezzie there? I was hoping that Elka was making steering stabilizers for the new quad.

09-10-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by RiPPiNiTuP7
nothing wrong with that, but i was just hoping for "new high tech trick doo dads" thats all....from what i see of the trx it looks like a 400ex with a different engine, plastic and a few other things, but who knows, maybe theres more to be seen still. basically i was expecting something new to the game...an alum frame...fuel injection....something.....


Oh you wanted a Cannondale :blah: :D

RiPPiNiTuP7
09-10-2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by 440EX4me
Oh you wanted a Cannondale :blah: :D

:devil:

wilkin250r
09-10-2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by jesshamner
Do people normally put the rear shock rezzie there? I was hoping that Elka was making steering stabilizers for the new quad.

I'm not CERTAIN that it's the rear rezzie, that's just my first guess. I know the line for the rear rezzie on the 400EX is pretty long, I think most people mount it to the frame under the gas tank. It's the same color as the the elkas, and I can almost make out the outline of a rezzie through the bumper screen.

jesshamner
09-10-2003, 10:57 AM
You're right. It definitely looks like a rezzie. It also looks like the hose to the rezzie runs from the back shock right up front there. Am I seeing that correctly or is that hose for the engine or something else?

jcv400ex
09-10-2003, 11:01 AM
For the love of everything that's holy! It's a prototype! NO Aluminum frame, NO Elka Shocks!!!

Let's get this up to 69.....:bandit:

wilkin250r
09-10-2003, 11:03 AM
I realize it's not going to come with the Elkas, but I sure hope those vise grips come stock. :D

250EXstud
09-10-2003, 11:07 AM
ok its 12:06 where is this thing! Ok i have to to class now

coryatver
09-10-2003, 11:07 AM
After looking at it for a while the look grows on you. I think it looks pretty sweet.

PHIL_B54
09-10-2003, 11:08 AM
there's a huge picture at z400central.com

jcv400ex
09-10-2003, 11:18 AM
Wow! That's alot better!!!

Looks like a CBR from the front, Seferas Spider grips, Raptor Dunlops on the rear, weird fronts though like a re-designed 502.

Is that a battery box I see behind the rear plastic? Next to the vise grips? Atleast it's a 2004 model! You know it'll be out before too long then......Is it just me or does the frame look alot like a 400ex??????

nateftbl
09-10-2003, 11:38 AM
ok im getting a little scared. where is the new honda!? I havent seen it yet or heard anything!!!:eek:

robby26wi
09-10-2003, 11:43 AM
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WOOLIN
09-10-2003, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by nateftbl
ok im getting a little scared. where is the new honda!? I havent seen it yet or heard anything!!!:eek:
Here

Merriman
09-10-2003, 11:46 AM
There :(

bkbatv
09-10-2003, 11:54 AM
looks real to me it has dual piston calipers HMMMMM you can see the oil cap next to the shifter , the tank is off because they are fitting it up with aftermarket parts compare this to the drawing hmmmm looks very close dont it someone needs to blow up the vin sticker to see what it says it looks like they are at the AC fatory and are making the first set of nerfs for it dont be surprised when you see this tonite at the vegas show

Striker49
09-10-2003, 11:54 AM
All links to Z400cent pertaining to the 450 have been removed. No pix there that I see...sorry.

Not til its posted officially, just trying to do whats right. :o

YZROOSTINYA
09-10-2003, 11:55 AM
twin piston front brakes

and aluminum subframe

sly400ex
09-10-2003, 11:57 AM
What is it, jokey shift or what??? What the hell are those vise-grips ont there for????

CHAR250R
09-10-2003, 11:58 AM
Why do other NON Honda sites have pics of OUR Honda? Why would our mods delete links to it? Just curios. I don't think the front plastic is bolted up in the pic I've been seeing. Get a real pic of this thing up!

robby26wi
09-10-2003, 11:59 AM
Honda would not approve...even on a Suzuki site

Quad18star
09-10-2003, 12:05 PM
Well it looks like Elka has had the specs on the bike for a while, along with Roll design ( steering stem) , AC Racing ( bumper and skid plate) , and Duncan Racing must have soem parts for it on the machine cuz I can see a DR sticker on the bike . Looks like they have removed the stock chain cuz its sitting on the forklift. LOL . Hmm what else can you spot in the picture???

09-10-2003, 12:07 PM
It's a friggen hoax i don't care what ya say....:blah:

450bret350
09-10-2003, 12:25 PM
for non hrc members or whatever will we see it at midnight tonight or what?

joeroadking
09-10-2003, 12:27 PM
Alright whats going on here we had a real pic of the bike 5mins ago high resoulotion and it was not photo shopped ,now it will not come up whats up !I have seen the bike ! and you can not take it from my memmory ha lol !!!:D;) ;)

joeroadking
09-10-2003, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by Quad18star
Well it looks like Elka has had the specs on the bike for a while, along with Roll design ( steering stem) , AC Racing ( bumper and skid plate) , and Duncan Racing must have soem parts for it on the machine cuz I can see a DR sticker on the bike . Looks like they have removed the stock chain cuz its sitting on the forklift. LOL . Hmm what else can you spot in the picture??? no doubt I agree that was agood pic of the actual bike! to bad no alum frame .:(

XANDADA
09-10-2003, 12:34 PM
cough, cough mmhhm, rriders.com, cough, excuse me....

honda350r
09-10-2003, 12:49 PM
http://www.atvconnection.com/atvconnection...nes/trx450r.cfm

JHF219
09-10-2003, 12:51 PM
http://www.wfo-motorsports.com/pic23.htm

joeroadking
09-10-2003, 12:52 PM
I can tell you one thing It looks like my r is not going into retiterment it looks like every other quad suzi,artic cat,rap, kawi. I guess I expected too much waiting nearly 15years for them to make a serouis competetive quad again I expected to see 15years of develpoment not just a 400 with red suzuki style plastic and a cr 450 motor, not flaming just disappointed, but I will buy one any way, my blood is red too/ and men do not change gods .:mad:

450bret350
09-10-2003, 12:53 PM
hmmmmmmuggghhhh bluetraxx.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=29143&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40 page 3 caughhmmmmmcaugh:D

Pahrump
09-10-2003, 12:53 PM
Ok not to try to sound like a know it all but....

My guy here in Las vegas just called me and said....

Detuned CRF Motor
Kick ONLY!!!
No Reverse
Fully Adjustable front and rear
Steel frame-alluminum subframe
39mm carb like YFZ
The pic we have all seen is the real quad, just with aftermarket stuff on it
Full on race quad from Honda (Remember the R in the 450R)
42-46HP
335LBS









2004 Model avaliable near Christmas Not sure of date but in December.

monsteratv
09-10-2003, 12:55 PM
this is sooooo sweet!!!!!!!!!

Ryan
09-10-2003, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Pahrump
Ok not to try to sound like a know it all but....

My guy here in Las vegas just called me and said....

Detuned CRF Motor
Kick ONLY!!!
No Reverse
Fully Adjustable front and rear
Steel frame-alluminum subframe
39mm carb like YFZ
The pic we have all seen is the real quad, just with aftermarket stuff on it
Full on race quad from Honda (Remember the R in the 450R)
42-46HP
335LBS









2004 Model avaliable near Christmas Not sure of date but in December.

42-46hp at the crank?

I hope your buddy is right. That sounds awesome!

robby26wi
09-10-2003, 01:02 PM
thats like 40 at the rear tires...thats what my cannondale made with a pipe on it..

Pahrump
09-10-2003, 01:03 PM
He said that will be at te crank and it will probably be closer to the 42HP mark then the 46 but it will be "corked up" like the yammy.

Pahrump
09-10-2003, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by robby26wi
thats like 40 at the rear tires...thats what my cannondale made with a pipe on it..


Sorry if that bursts your little bubble but I believe it the bikes do and the new yamaha does also....

robby26wi
09-10-2003, 01:10 PM
Burst my bubble?? I could care less...I dont even own it anymore...I have a 50 horse Kfx440 thats way better then what my Dale ever was...I was just mearly stating a point that it should make like 40 horse at the tires is all..

DMH
09-10-2003, 01:20 PM
did anyone save the big pict? If so could you e-mail it to me?

dmh42c@yahoo.com

Thanks

HotRod2Fitty
09-10-2003, 01:27 PM
Please tell me that pic is fake. That thing is ugly as all he11 i cant believe we have waited this long for that.
If that is a true pic, then ill be buying a yami definetely.

09-10-2003, 01:31 PM
im very dissapointed in the looks of this thing..i hear a yfz calling my name.:(

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 01:34 PM
god why are the mods being so...nevermind

ghost_ryder
09-10-2003, 01:35 PM
looks like there will be yamaha sittin in my garage come spring time...

450bret350
09-10-2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
god why are the mods being so...nevermind

they are doing what they have to, to watch their *****'s, other wise their wouldn't be this forum

09-10-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
god why are the mods being so...nevermind its called respect for honda....they dont want anyone else seeing it before its released at the dealer show....and if pics are leaked out and psoted on a public forum...law suits can start happening...i have 2 pics and would be more than gladly to post....after its released...

blastermaster58
09-10-2003, 01:42 PM
U GUYS ARE RETARDED, IF YOU WUD LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FRFONT PLASTICS, YOU WILL SEE THAT THAT SIDEE IS ROUNDED, AND THE OTHER SIDEE IS DIFFERENT, THEY PHOTOSHOPPED IT. ONE FRONT FRENDER IS DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER, THEY TOOM A 400EX AND OPHOTOSHOPPEED IT. THE RIGHT FRONT FENDER IS ROUNDED LIKE A 400EX IS.

jcv400ex
09-10-2003, 01:43 PM
Somebody get rid of the rodent ^ :o


Pappy, you still have that Rat poison? One sneaked in.... :D

09-10-2003, 01:52 PM
I'm just glad that the information that HAS come in verifies the claims I made several days ago, no reverse, kick only and 335lbs. Now I won't get PM'd to death.
Please, now no more photoshop claims, just wait till some more complete photos arrive instead on a partially dissassembled one in a bumper company's warehouse. Then we'll see. And does Honda still got something up their sleeve???? Only time, Only time.:macho

rs169300
09-10-2003, 01:58 PM
for all of you riders out there. I will tell you that looks do not win races. And honda has been at top of the quad industry since 86. So do you want a quad to look good, or to flat out dominate the quad world like the 250r. Just wait till the testing. Honda will not screw up the preformance.

killer03_300ex
09-10-2003, 02:00 PM
hmm ive looked at that pic of the dvx400 and the new 450r and still cant determine if its photoshoped i guess im gonna have ta just wait to see it when honda releases it :D

GetHigh250r
09-10-2003, 02:02 PM
ill post the pic if someone tells me how to do it!!!...i have it

trx400
09-10-2003, 02:02 PM
i just got back from my honda dealer they didnt tell me wut the 450 was like but i did get on the waiting list with 8 other people. they said that pics should be on the honda site around 8 or 9 tonight

09-10-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by rs169300
for all of you riders out there. I will tell you that looks do not win races. And honda has been at top of the quad industry since 86. So do you want a quad to look good, or to flat out dominate the quad world like the 250r. Just wait till the testing. Honda will not screw up the preformance. i would like to have both...and they yfz has both.

09-10-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by GetHigh250r
ill post the pic if someone tells me how to do it!!!...i have it then the mods will delete it:o

GetHigh250r
09-10-2003, 02:06 PM
are they goin to fix that whole "no pictures" problem...I get lost if its just all talking

hondamxer161
09-10-2003, 02:07 PM
send it to me!

mike

GetHigh250r
09-10-2003, 02:07 PM
anyways here is the link instead

Pahrump
09-10-2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by GetHigh250r
ill post the pic if someone tells me how to do it!!!...i have it

Send it to me via email coupleofhondas@hotmail.com

Pahrump
09-10-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by GetHigh250r
anyways here is the link instead


http://www.atvconnection.com/atvconnection/Departments/Dunes/images/450r_001.jpg

Thanks..But we have already seen that one.

mjquadracer
09-10-2003, 02:13 PM
just post the pic on rriders.com all you do is click on attachments

theTman
09-10-2003, 02:46 PM
..

monsteratv
09-10-2003, 02:48 PM
last warning..no more pics

jmoney45
09-10-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by nacsracer27
im very dissapointed in the looks of this thing..i hear a yfz calling my name.:(

I won't let the looks of it steer me away. If the plastic is fugly but it rips i'll buy fullbore or maier for it.

09-10-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by jmoney45
I won't let the looks of it steer me away. If the plastic is fugly but it rips i'll buy fullbore or maier for it. yea...so far im very dissapointed..but if it looks good on paper......and performs good i will continue with my order..but right now its not looking good

sparky450AR
09-10-2003, 03:00 PM
i love how it looks.....and in real life the looks only get better

balla250ex
09-10-2003, 03:02 PM
What looks?! What pics!? I have seen a fake one...but none recently.

freakystone
09-10-2003, 03:04 PM
Why are the mod deleting pics of the new quad?

sparky450AR
09-10-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by balla250ex
What looks?! What pics!? I have seen a fake one...but none recently.

its not fake....the one you saw last night...the high res is the same as the low....ITS NOT FAKE...i dunno about you guys but if the honda weighs 335lbs that sounds a lot better than 350....i put a pic of oth the yfz and teh trx side by sidea nd i must say....i like the looks of teh trx better...now it all depends on specs...so ill wait

sparky450AR
09-10-2003, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by freakystone
Why are the mod deleting pics of the new quad?

because sometimes poeple get themselves into messes...sometimes other poeple get poeple in to messes...and thats what has happened....they are doing it out of respect for honda....if people wouldnt say they have a pic of these new quads joking or not...none of this would happen

balla250ex
09-10-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by sparky450AR
its not fake....the one you saw last night...the high res is the same as the low....ITS NOT FAKE...

That is the problem...I did'nt see that pic last nite. :confused:

freakystone
09-10-2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by sparky450AR
because sometimes poeple get themselves into messes...sometimes other poeple get poeple in to messes...and thats what has happened....they are doing it out of respect for honda....if people wouldnt say they have a pic of these new quads joking or not...none of this would happen


What? :huh :huh

Guy400
09-10-2003, 03:14 PM
Guys, pics are being removed because we respect the place of business that this picture was taken in. I'm sure this aftermarket parts company doesn't want Honda breathing down their necks about why pics were released when they were told to keep it a secret. Other websites can do as they please with whatever pics they get a hold of but trust me, this HUGE aftermarket parts manufacturer knows which websites respect their reputation and which ones don't. We're taking the high road here.

sparky450AR
09-10-2003, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by freakystone
What? :huh :huh


honda doesnt want poeple posting pictures of there new unreleased quad....and if they tell this site to take them down the site has too....or it could get in big trouble


and if people would just keep it too themselves about having pics....they mods would have to be working so hard right now......

but!, honda should know better, if they send a quad out int he open that thousands of people want to see, people will see it

09-10-2003, 03:16 PM
chit u guys just want more site sponsers. U know guy has got some pics of the 450.

Ralph
09-10-2003, 03:18 PM
that pic is photoshoped to hide the large frame rail and it IS ALUMINUM. its kind of like the lrd style.... tarust MEH

sparky450AR
09-10-2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Guy400
Guys, pics are being removed because we respect the place of business that this picture was taken in. I'm sure this aftermarket parts company doesn't want Honda breathing down their necks about why pics were released when they were told to keep it a secret. Other websites can do as they please with whatever pics they get a hold of but trust me, this HUGE aftermarket parts manufacturer knows which websites respect their reputation and which ones don't. We're taking the high road here.

thank you guy

sparky450AR
09-10-2003, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Ralph
that pic is photoshoped to hide the large frame rail and it IS ALUMINUM. its kind of like the lrd style.... tarust MEH

how do you know?

balla250ex
09-10-2003, 03:19 PM
I can't blame the mods for doin that. If I was 1 I would do the same, and hopefully you would to.

Guy400
09-10-2003, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by 93 300ex
chit u guys just want more site sponsers. U know guy has got some pics of the 450. :huh It's got nothing to do with sponsorship on this site. Guys, I'm looking at the same pics you all are.

09-10-2003, 03:24 PM
im just jackin ya. I understand where ur comin from just wanna save the site from all the crap. id do the same.

monkeyboy
09-10-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Guy400
:huh It's got nothing to do with sponsorship on this site. Guys, I'm looking at the same pics you all are.


briing bak da pikturz :mad: :mad:

Guy400
09-10-2003, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by monkeyboy
briing bak da pikturz :mad: :mad: munkyspunk, u git kikk'd n da durt pil iff yous poss dat pik in heare.

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 03:42 PM
i think its nice

monkeyboy
09-10-2003, 03:45 PM
:eek:


guuyz40 saayz noo pikturrs jakazzzz:scary:
\

:mad: -\:grr:

sparky450AR
09-10-2003, 03:45 PM
dude id delete that if i were you...i think its nice too...but the mods are getting sick of this...dontg et yourself banned

09-10-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
i think its nice guy will have fun with you...i tihnk he made it obvious already NOT to post pics:rolleyes:

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 03:46 PM
o,my bad i didnt see that

balla250ex
09-10-2003, 03:47 PM
DELETE IT MAN!

sparky450AR
09-10-2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
o,my bad i didnt see that


its ok just edit your post...and check delete up at the top

kabd69667
09-10-2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by monkeyboy
:eek:


guuyz40 saayz noo pikturrs jakazzzz:scary:
\

:mad: -\:grr:
some people never learn monkeyboy:(

jesshamner
09-10-2003, 03:49 PM
Does anyone else think it looks kind of like a spider?

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 03:49 PM
done..cry babies

monkeyboy
09-10-2003, 03:49 PM
nufff warnnnin kiik em offf:mad:


:confused2 :scary:

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by monkeyboy
nufff warnnnin kiik em offf:mad:


:confused2 :scary:
yo,ur whole talk thing got old real fast..drop it. im sick of u,ur "green smocks" and your "tekkoty".


easy now***edited***

Honda4trax250x
09-10-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by monkeyboy
nufff warnnnin kiik em offf:mad:


:confused2 :scary:

for once i agree with you monkeyboy

:p

09-10-2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
yo,ur whole talk thing got old real fast..drop it. im sick of u,ur "green smocks" and your "tekkoty".


easy now***edited*** if you think monkeyboy is real then you need to get to a doctor soon:macho

MSL
09-10-2003, 04:01 PM
yo,ur whole talk thing got old real fast..drop it. im sick of u,ur "green smocks" and your "tekkoty".

Leave MonkeyButt alone he cant help it if he likes the green smocks and rides a tekkoty, You might act like that if you were inbread:devil:

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by nacsracer27
if you think monkeyboy is real then you need to get to a doctor soon:macho
your an idiot then dude cuz i was just saying how i was sick of his whole act


***edited***

then click the ignore button

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 04:12 PM
who keeps editing my posts yo..reply urself to yell at me

Pappy
09-10-2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
who keeps editing my posts yo..reply urself to yell at me

***edited****
no:devil:

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 04:22 PM
hey,any one wanna see what the new honda looks like??

Guy400
09-10-2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
hey,any one wanna see what the new honda looks like?? You've already been warned once...

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 04:30 PM
no one actually said dont do it...so i guess if no one can post it it must be the real thing....im out for now peace

monkeyboy
09-10-2003, 04:34 PM
c yaa :scary:

flying400ex
09-10-2003, 04:35 PM
You have a real picture!? post it!

TGW_400ex
09-10-2003, 04:35 PM
O my its not worth gettin kick off the site to see one pic of a quad u can see tommorrow calm down guys:D

Cody_300ex
09-10-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
hey,any one wanna see what the new honda looks like??


I DO! I DO!!!:D :p :D

Pappy
09-10-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by flying400ex
You have a real picture!? post it!

until the release from honda...NO PICTURES ON THIS SITE.

if ya wanna post one go ahead....ill delete it....right after i ban the person posting it

mrusk
09-10-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
until the release from honda...NO PICTURES ON THIS SITE.

if ya wanna post one go ahead....ill delete it....right after i ban the person posting it

Thats just dumb. Just my opioion.

matt

400grl
09-10-2003, 04:42 PM
I don't think it's dumb....I think it's respecting everyone involved in the industry....don't want to poop on Honda's party! :) What's a few more hours? ;)

flying400ex
09-10-2003, 04:42 PM
that is kinda wierd we cant post it but send it to me in an e-mail "rutlee@aol.com" someone please!!!! send me one

coryatver
09-10-2003, 04:44 PM
Is it ok if it is a picture from the honda club site?

J-06
09-10-2003, 04:45 PM
Id say so..Its FROM honda
If anyone has a pic send it to me!

flying400ex
09-10-2003, 04:46 PM
coryatver can you send me a picture of it please?>!!

killer03_300ex
09-10-2003, 04:51 PM
Anyone know what time itll be on honda's site:huh

z400rider23
09-10-2003, 04:53 PM
I don't understand why some people are so afraid of stepping on Honda's toes over the picture of the new quad? What has Honda ever done for this site? Do you really think Honda gives a **** about this site? I just don't nderstand..

Pappy
09-10-2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by mrusk
Thats just dumb. Just my opioion.

matt

would you like to be the contact person for hondas lawyer:ermm:

we arent allowed to host the pics people...get over it

Guy400
09-10-2003, 05:01 PM
In addition to Kenny's reply, there are several other companies that are associated with this quad and the said pic. We are risking their business by posting these pics and we've got too much respect for them. Why disrupt a relationship they might have with Honda just so you can see a pic of a quad that you're going to see in 5 hours anyway? Again, there's other websites that obviously don't share this respect so if you go there you'll find pics.

coryatver
09-10-2003, 05:01 PM
I am not in the club but at 8:30 when it comes out would a member please post them?

theTman
09-10-2003, 05:03 PM
**Nice try at advertising a web page. You'll get all the information you'll ever need for the TRX450R right here. If you're just looking at posting the pic of the artist's drawing you can post that here.** -Guy400

killer03_300ex
09-10-2003, 05:03 PM
u sure its at 8:30 if that when it will be on there site or is that when it just gets released at that show

Ryan
09-10-2003, 05:09 PM
Man, gotta hand it to the mods today. You boyz sure gotta chit load to deal with! :ermm:

Good Luck.

Greg Z
09-10-2003, 05:11 PM
8:30 EST or PACIFIC OR CENTRAL:confused:

theTman
09-10-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by theTman
**Nice try at advertising a web page. You'll get all the information you'll ever need for the TRX450R right here. If you're just looking at posting the pic of the artist's drawing you can post that here.** -Guy400

im not tyring to advertise..i did a search on google for trx450r and this link came up so i clicked it..it has forums..NO ACTUAL PICTURES!!!!:mad:...but just a question..how come we could post pics of the YFZ450 b4 it came out?? but we cant post pics of this new honda?????????

Pappy
09-10-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by theTman
im not tyring to advertise..i did a search on google for trx450r and this link came up so i clicked it..it has forums..NO ACTUAL PICTURES!!!!:mad:

i think the late great beerock said it best...RIF:)

theTman
09-10-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
i think the late great beerock said it best...RIF:)

huh?? RIF???

wilkin250r
09-10-2003, 05:20 PM
So, this is slightly off-topic, but I'm curious. I know the Mods are monitoring this thread closely for pics, maybe one of you will be willing to answer.

How many useless threads regarding the 450r have been closed today? Ballpark. I've seen them in Powertrain, suspension, and MANY in the open forum.

Ryan
09-10-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
So, this is slightly off-topic, but I'm curious. I know the Mods are monitoring this thread closely for pics, maybe one of you will be willing to answer.

How many useless threads regarding the 450r have been closed today? Ballpark. I've seen them in Powertrain, suspension, and MANY in the open forum.

To many :scary:

Pappy
09-10-2003, 05:22 PM
lol....i lost count:(

sparky450AR
09-10-2003, 05:23 PM
i guess its good that we are all so excited about this new wonderful atv:)

Narly R
09-10-2003, 05:27 PM
Ya.... compannys SHOULDNT say anything if there going to release a new quad, then we dont have to go threw all this....:confused2 :rolleyes:

remlapr
09-10-2003, 05:30 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong - but at 8:30pm PACIFIC /11:30pm EASTERN time the pics will come up for people in the Honda club - but they will not be posted on the main Honda site until 12a PACIFIC/3a EASTERN.

Pappy - my question is this:

If someone that has access to the Honda club post the pics shortly after 8:30pm PACIFIC /11:30 EASTERN is that cool? I mean the cat's pretty much out of the bag at that point, I'm sure the Honday club has thousands of members.

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 05:31 PM
i have a picture nananana..too bad i dont have a paypal account or somethin...charge a buck a view.:rolleyes:

Pappy
09-10-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by remlapr


Pappy - my question is this:

If someone that has access to the Honda club post the pics shortly after 8:30pm PACIFIC /11:30 EASTERN is that cool? I mean the cat's pretty much out of the bag at that point, I'm sure the Honday club has thousands of members.

once they are made public thru honda or the hrca....the pics are fair game and can be posted at will:D


trust me people...we would much rather be looking at pictures and talkin about the quad then deleting posts and pictures. but we have a duty to uphold some standards that other websites wont. thats fine by us....we know what honda has to say about us...we also know what the atv industry thinks of this site. we arent #1 for nothing.

Narly R
09-10-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
i have a picture nananana..too bad i dont have a paypal account or somethin...charge a buck a view.:rolleyes:

:cuss:

j/k I can wait... But i agree at 8:30 everyone should have the right to see it....

Narly R
09-10-2003, 05:40 PM
So people have posted some pics? They just got deleted?:ermm: j/w

Guy400
09-10-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
How many useless threads regarding the 450r have been closed today? Ballpark. I've seen them in Powertrain, suspension, and MANY in the open forum. There are so many locks on this site that not even Houdini could get outta here:D

coryatver
09-10-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by theTman
huh?? RIF???

Reading is Fun!

Guy400
09-10-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Narly R
So people have posted some pics? They just got deleted?:ermm: j/w Yes, pics were posted last night that were linked from another site. After those pics went up we were asked by several different companies to please take them down and we happily complied.

chad502ex
09-10-2003, 05:45 PM
I'll also be posting all the info I get at 830pm PDT too

:) It's an ixciting time, isn't it?

Pappy
09-10-2003, 05:49 PM
lol...if honda could only get people this ecited about thier cars:p

Narly R
09-10-2003, 05:50 PM
Dont you guys just love mystery stories....

remlapr
09-10-2003, 05:52 PM
LOL - the site that had the big pic up earlier on their main page now has a pic of a winter landscape up instead - but the caption still say's "TRX450R Spy photo"

Guy400
09-10-2003, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
lol...if honda could only get people this ecited about thier cars:p This guy obviously is:D

http://www.beaterz.com/reviews/1199/p9_integra_identity/integra_SUPER.jpg

Guy400
09-10-2003, 05:56 PM
For those of you that don't understand, if we don't allow pics of this quad to come through this site we obviously aren't going to allow links to them either.

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 05:56 PM
A lot of people are dissing on this bike, but I could not be happier.
To me the frame looks identical to the 400ex accept the alumumem tube sup frame. This is fine with me because maybe a lot of the 400ex parts will interchange. Sure looks like the A-arms and shocks will. I like the front dual pistion brakes to. Hell the cfr motor is alot lighter then the ex motor so the bike will be around 350 pounds and haul ***!

300XFST4602
09-10-2003, 06:00 PM
I don't see a radiator do you guys ?. ?Personally i do not think the pic is real , maybe wrong though , and what is with the clamps??

chad502ex
09-10-2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by 300XFST4602
I don't see a radiator do you guys ?. ?Personally i do not think the pic is real , maybe wrong though , and what is with the clamps??

yea 300 if ya zoom real close you can see there is some plastic fins near the front part of the motor ;) See it?

Chad502EX.com

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 06:02 PM
blow up the pic it has a radiator
just no gas tank in the pic

hessianmx111
09-10-2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Guy400
For those of you that don't understand, if we don't allow pics of this quad to come through this site we obviously aren't going to allow links to them either.
sorry about that i got a link off this site in the what the heck thread and figured it was ok. sorry if i caused any trouble:)

300XFST4602
09-10-2003, 06:04 PM
ya i see the fins but i thought the radiator was right imbetween the fins and all i see is engine

Guy400
09-10-2003, 06:05 PM
No problem, the mods are just trying to do the best we can.

remlapr
09-10-2003, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Guy400
For those of you that don't understand, if we don't allow pics of this quad to come through this site we obviously aren't going to allow links to them either.


Was that directed at me :ermm: I didn't post a link - but I know a lot of people know what I'm talking about and thought they would think it's funny to see that the photo has been yanked. Actually if I did post a link it would just be to a picture of a cabin in the woods in the winter LOL.

Guy400
09-10-2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by remlapr
Was that directed at me :ermm: I didn't post a link - but I know a lot of people know what I'm talking about and thought they would think it's funny to see that the photo has been yanked. Actually if I did post a link it would just be to a picture of a cabin in the woods in the winter LOL. Nope, not at all. And I know exactly which picture you're talking about:D This is just a general message to everyone trying to circumvent the rule.

remlapr
09-10-2003, 06:07 PM
I don't know if anyone noticed - but it appears to have some sort of steering linkage like the predator. Take a look - the tie rods don't connect to the stem.

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 06:11 PM
I think the rods do connect to the stem but the stem is not finished. I bet this is roll's shop.

chad502ex
09-10-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Guy400
Nope, not at all. And I know exactly which picture you're talking about:D This is just a general message to everyone trying to circumvent the rule.

Are you talk'n to me? <New Yorker> HEH!! :)

I hear ya Guy, I'm not trying to cause you trouble. I enjoy this site, its great place to meet great folks such as yourself, not to mention all the technical stuff!! ;)

Chad502EX.com

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 06:14 PM
17 minutes til its ok to post?

09-10-2003, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Ben
Man that is one ugly machine

Matter of opinion....:macho

I too have the full size pic....and I believe it's awesome.

We all have our opinions.

Pappy
09-10-2003, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
17 minutes til its ok to post?

only if and when we recieve the pics from honda's site. we have all seen the ones of it on the loading dock at IMS

bansheeman_95
09-10-2003, 06:16 PM
that thing is kinda fugly. but i wouldnt mind having one since i have nothin else to ride but my john deere

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 06:18 PM
Has anyone seen it with the tank and sides on???
Does it look like it was styled after a cbr?

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
only if and when we recieve the pics from honda's site. we have all seen the ones of it on the loading dock at IMS
whos all? i didnt see the pic,unless its the one i posted and then deleted..the one with the elkas on it...and when are we supposed to offically see it on honda.com?

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 06:24 PM
Take the lights out
houser +3's and pep zps
then It looks just right!

hawiianpwr
09-10-2003, 06:24 PM
You can tell that pick has been photochopped

remlapr
09-10-2003, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
17 minutes til its ok to post?

8:30 pm PACIFIC\ 11:30 pm EASTERN is the Honda club release time. - That is in 3+ hours, not a few minutes.

Guy400
09-10-2003, 06:24 PM
I believe it's 8:30 Pacific time which means 11:30 Eastern time. That's only if press release photos of the 450R have hit the Honda website either on the public side or in the club side.

400ex45
09-10-2003, 06:26 PM
what will be the web site for it? is just going to be on hondas website or are they making another page.

remlapr
09-10-2003, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by 400ex45
what will be the web site for it? is just going to be on hondas website or are they making another page.

Specific URL just for club members at 11:30.

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by hawiianpwr
You can tell that pick has been photochopped


I thought the same thing last night when it was first posted.
But it is the real deal.

Why would some one draw in a vise grips to hold a set of nerfs on??

I really got excited when I seen the valve cover bolt from a cfr mill
behind that elka rezze.

It's my dream quad still as strong as the ex but with the capacity to have 50 reliable horse.

Kilabanshee
09-10-2003, 06:37 PM
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Ralph
09-10-2003, 06:39 PM
bye bye...


when they say NOT TO POST A PIC IT MEANS DONT POST A PIC!!!!!

Ralph
09-10-2003, 06:44 PM
anyone else notice the top a-arm looks like its made out of diff marerial than the bottom

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 06:44 PM
I can't figure out why the ssd spring on those elka's aren't sagging??

Is it that much lighter in the frount then a ex.

Kilabanshee
09-10-2003, 06:46 PM
Sorry guys i didnot read the post before about the pics and all and how its kinda ilegal to show the pics. Thanks pappy for telling me!!!!!:blah: :devil:

250rtone
09-10-2003, 06:48 PM
I''m just going to sit at my computer tonight and enjoy a few cold mgd's and wait it out.

Duner400ex
09-10-2003, 06:48 PM
Where would i go to post pics and why is the pic gone that was on this thread.

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Ralph
anyone else notice the top a-arm looks like its made out of diff marerial than the bottom


I could be on crack, but they sure look just like the ones from a ex.

300EX_HMF
09-10-2003, 06:49 PM
what kind of brake lines are those and they look smaller than 400ex stock ones???

whoahhhhh dual piston brake calipers to!!! good stopping power!!

Pappy
09-10-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Ironballs
I could be on crack, but they sure look just like the ones from a ex.

the entire quad is basically an updated 400ex with a crf engine.

400ex45
09-10-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Ralph
anyone else notice the top a-arm looks like its made out of diff marerial than the bottom

yah i noticed that and another thing it might just be me but doesnt the frame look different that just steel tube.

Cody_300ex
09-10-2003, 06:50 PM
hey pappy what about the kick-start only?:confused:

Pappy
09-10-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Lil_300Ex_Kid
hey pappy what about the kick-start only?:confused:

thats the part thats gonna suck arse:mad:

300EX_HMF
09-10-2003, 06:51 PM
is that a ROLL DESIGN foot peg i see???

Cody_300ex
09-10-2003, 06:52 PM
i know:(

chad502ex
09-10-2003, 06:52 PM
Has anyone noticed from the picture that if the frame is the same as the 400ex, then honda must have changed the front shock upper mounts. I'd bet the Pro Taper Bars, the steering stem front bumper nerfs shocks are not real HONDA mods; I'd bet the only mod HONDA installed on this THUMPER is a TURBO right under the seat!!!! HEHE. But seriously, it wouldn't be tough for HONDA to release a turbo quad, they have TURBO watercrafts!! ;)

Chad502EX.com

sickmojave
09-10-2003, 06:53 PM
it's on the HRCA webcast now. it is the quad that was posted in the pics. it has a steel frame kick start shock rezzis on the front .it has duel bearings on the left side of the carrier. it has an LED tail light. and a lot more that i missed:confused2

09-10-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
the entire quad is basically an updated 400ex with a crf engine.

Naaaaaa.....its more like a 4 Stroke version of an R. Kickstart...

I love it....I hope she pulls 50 HP stock.....that would be justice!

400ex45
09-10-2003, 06:53 PM
ohh yah and another thing that is bothering me is what is up with the rear tires they are not ohtsu

z400ACDC
09-10-2003, 06:54 PM
It has a forward kick start.

09-10-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
thats the part thats gonna suck arse:mad: so is it for sure kick only?

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
the entire quad is basically an updated 400ex with a crf engine.

You mean all the stuff I bought far the EX this summer might not be obsolete. Sure hope some of it interchanges, if not i'm going to the crack pipe to forget how much money I spent.

300EX_HMF
09-10-2003, 06:55 PM
whys that left tie-rod end up side down???

jesshamner
09-10-2003, 06:55 PM
So if it is an updated ex, does that mean that ex parts will fit it? Or does that just mean that it is similar to the 400ex?

400ex45
09-10-2003, 06:56 PM
so how much is my quad worth??????:)

holeshot19
09-10-2003, 06:56 PM
that was my gig, if the prices are on par with the 400 im all 4 it people are going to put on the a arms shock and stuf of there own. i think that there is too much hype put in 2 it. duvall has lead the points all year on a ex. only thing was that i costs so much to make it fast. but if the frame geo was good . price yamaha and suzuki parts aganist honda parts and u will understand.

daiglea
09-10-2003, 06:59 PM
Is it OK to post pictures now???

400ex45
09-10-2003, 06:59 PM
the biggest thing i like with the crf 450r is LIQUID COOLED

250rtone
09-10-2003, 07:01 PM
please!!!!!!!

Pappy
09-10-2003, 07:02 PM
if anyone has pics from the hrca website feel free to post them

LTandRaptorider
09-10-2003, 07:04 PM
Ok, I'll sleep fine tonight without seeing a pic of the new Honda. What will keep me up is this... Pappy, what the heck does RIF stand for?? :confused2 :confused2 I've filled up a paper with different possibilities, most of them unprintable... I need another drink... :D

I think I have the last letter figured out...

daiglea
09-10-2003, 07:04 PM
Come on people i gotss to get up tomorow morning :devil:

honda350r
09-10-2003, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by nacsracer27
so is it for sure kick only?

If it is ,Honda can shove it up their arse !!!

sickmojave
09-10-2003, 07:04 PM
it's set up as videos so i can't:confused2

Guy400
09-10-2003, 07:05 PM
I tried to backdoor in by manually typing in the URL and a yellow box popped up with Honda's logo on it and said "We're sorry, this page is temporarily unavailable at this time..."

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 07:05 PM
pappy u said u had a pic of it at the IMS loading dock? and said supposedly we all saw?..i didnt hook me up

A.K.A Nips
09-10-2003, 07:06 PM
Hey guys where is the pic u are talking about?:confused:

J-06
09-10-2003, 07:07 PM
Whats it look like..Anything like the drawing??

Pahrump
09-10-2003, 07:07 PM
Yes it is kick start only..

Hence the difference of weight from the YFZ. All you need to do is take the battery and starter off the Yammy and add the kicker and you are around 335-340.

chad502ex
09-10-2003, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Andrew400ex
pappy u said u had a pic of it at the IMS loading dock? and said supposedly we all saw?..i didnt hook me up

Andrew just go to my site

Chad502ex.com

Guy400
09-10-2003, 07:10 PM
http://powersports.honda.com/atvs/sport/model.asp?ModelName=Sportrax+450R&ModelYear=2004&ModelId=TRX450R

300EX_HMF
09-10-2003, 07:10 PM
i dont really give FAT **** what this thing looks like becuase u can change that no problem! i just wanna know how this thing performs!!

Pappy
09-10-2003, 07:11 PM
RIF = READING IS FUNDEMENTAL

basically beerock used this term for members that asked the same question that had been asked a zillion times before in a thread....

if the dictionary had RIF it would say: yo...dumbass...read the thread and posts instead of asking a got dammn question we have already answered:eek:

J-06
09-10-2003, 07:11 PM
Thank Link Doesnt WOrk

Guy400
09-10-2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by J-06
Thank Link Doesnt WOrk That's the point, pics aren't up yet.

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 07:13 PM
Here IT is fellows
http://reflectweb.reflectsystems.com/templateFactory.aspx?Template=Honda1/Honda1_Launched.htm&WCID=e2a88431-9cdc-4b27-bab0-926e2144dd89&Name=Honda%20Test&BaseRoot=66.150.223.203&Customer=honda

let me know if that works

J-06
09-10-2003, 07:15 PM
That Pic that was posted is REAL :eek2: Look at the tag..Its an 04.Has warning labels too!

LTandRaptorider
09-10-2003, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
RIF = READING IS FUNDEMENTAL

basically beerock used this term for members that asked the same question that had been asked a zillion times before in a thread....

if the dictionary had RIF it would say: yo...dumbass...read the thread and posts instead of asking a got dammn question we have already answered:eek:

Hmmm... you hit that nail right on the head! :) And was I ever off on my guess for the last letter in it... :eek2:

Pappy
09-10-2003, 07:17 PM
hahaha yeah RIF could be READ IT F***HEAD:devil: i geuss that is up to the person getting the RIF posted after another stupid question:D

ZillaSMR
09-10-2003, 07:20 PM
SWEET..........That worked sweet.....I like it :D

09-10-2003, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Ironballs
He IT is fellows
http://reflectweb.reflectsystems.com/templateFactory.aspx?Template=Honda1/Honda1_Launched.htm&WCID=e2a88431-9cdc-4b27-bab0-926e2144dd89&Name=Honda%20Test&BaseRoot=66.150.223.203&Customer=honda

let me no if that works THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH IVE MADE MY DECISION

Guy400
09-10-2003, 07:21 PM
That link works to the webcast.

Added a 3rd piston ring for reliability, LED tail light, looked like remote rezzies, additional crank or counterbalancer bearings (can't remember which), dual bearings on the sprocket side of the carrier to withstand the power from the motor and some other stuff.

phatswinn
09-10-2003, 07:22 PM
i really wanna see a pic of this thing..bad..

Cody_300ex
09-10-2003, 07:22 PM
The link's not working for me:( :(..................And im not pay 25 bucks just to find out about it.

dannyboy20
09-10-2003, 07:23 PM
it didnt work

TGW_400ex
09-10-2003, 07:24 PM
I've seen the photo's but i want all the spec's:confused2

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 07:24 PM
love the kicker
just hope my tcs's can be set up on her.


please don't delete the link pappy that was hard to figure out.

Steve-O
09-10-2003, 07:24 PM
Thx worked fine for me!!!

Andrew400ex
09-10-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by dannyboy20
it didnt work
me either,guess the cops busted the party again

Giz400ex
09-10-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Ironballs
Here IT is fellows
http://reflectweb.reflectsystems.com/templateFactory.aspx?Template=Honda1/Honda1_Launched.htm&WCID=e2a88431-9cdc-4b27-bab0-926e2144dd89&Name=Honda%20Test&BaseRoot=66.150.223.203&Customer=honda

let me know if that works Good Job Ironballs!!! Its here and looks very similiar to the pic, if not identical!!!!! Now, what about the price tag $$$$$???

BigAl
09-10-2003, 07:24 PM
that link works for me to see the movie.

good work!

VIC
09-10-2003, 07:24 PM
It worked for me. Thanks
I just dont like the front lights.

J-06
09-10-2003, 07:25 PM
THAT WORKS!! YEE HAWW

Adam202
09-10-2003, 07:25 PM
i think its awesome, the suspension looks like 400ex suspension with ressies. i like it alot looks sweet.

Ironballs
09-10-2003, 07:25 PM
got windows media player.

TGW_400ex
09-10-2003, 07:26 PM
this sux it wont work for me:mad:

Merriman
09-10-2003, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Ironballs
Here IT is fellows
http://reflectweb.reflectsystems.com/templateFactory.aspx?Template=Honda1/Honda1_Launched.htm&WCID=e2a88431-9cdc-4b27-bab0-926e2144dd89&Name=Honda%20Test&BaseRoot=66.150.223.203&Customer=honda

let me know if that works


IT WORKS!!!

and the bike loks pretty sick....minus I don't like the front end to much, but oh well. I think the YFZ will....WILL have competition. But I'm still keeping my yamaha...:blah:

Ralph
09-10-2003, 07:27 PM
:D :D

http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r1.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r2.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r3.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r5.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r6.jpg

PHIL_B54
09-10-2003, 07:27 PM
ya, it worked

im going to go change my pants

F-16Guy
09-10-2003, 07:27 PM
I have this funny feeling that Honda is going to cut corners on the stuff that normally gets replaced by racers, i.e. a-arms, front shocks, so they can save a buck on the production. That's fine for people that can afford those things, but I have to applaud Yamaha for making an honest attempt at an almost race ready bike that amatuers can afford. I especially like the fully adjustable shocks and the bent, long travel-type a-arms. I'll be pretty disappointed if I don't see atleast fully adjustable shocks, and an anti-vibe stem would be nice. BTW, I tried to read as much of this thread as I could, so hopefully I don't fit into the RIF catagory:blah: