Brauap's 400EX Rebuild - Underway!

[Brauap]

Yes, I have finally started on my rebuild. I started with a 2003 Honda 400EX. My list of parts I am not going to list because it is changing all of the time. It should take to about Febuary.. but I am not sure.. at all.....

I will be posting pictures as things happen. So far I am on day 2 and down to the frame.. (Not bad for 14 I don't think....)

Well, here we go, finally!

Here is was before I started.. It needed this sooo badly! Bearings everywhere where worn.. everything was squeaky.. things where leaked, where cracked, scratched, ect ect.

My plan is to make it stock/mint!

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My Parts Needed List!
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Paint frame OEM color
OEM Bumper
New OEM Yellow Plastics (front/rear/sides/tank & handle bar covers)
New Bearings
Engine Tune-Up
Bolt Kit
OEM Tires
OEM Handlebars
OEM Wiring Harness
OEM Air box w/ filter
New Lub Nuts
OEM Front hub w/ rotor
OEM Headlight assembly
OEM Battery
OEM Battery Box
OEM Exhaust
OEM Chain/Sprockets
OEM Brake Pads
OEM Swingarm skid
OEM Subframe
OEM Piviot Bolt
OEM Rear fender braket
OEM Engine skid
450R Front shocks (or if I can get the stockers real clean)

(This list will be editied along the way. This list will not change.)

--Day 1--

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I got that dang swinger bolt out after about 5 hrs of pounding...heating..squarting (of oil) but it came out!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild006.jpg

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Here are the tools I used:

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http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild010.jpg
That "Aero Kariol" (I prolly misspelled it) but it is the best ever! Better than that PBlaster. I love this stuff.. it helps take the a rusty a-arm bolt off 1min after I squart it on!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild011.jpg
That tortch helps a ton too!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild012.jpg
And so does this Mini BFH haha

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild013.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild014.jpg
Stuck some screwdrivers to hold it up

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild015.jpg

--Got the engine out!!--
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild016.jpg

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Thats the end of Day 1!

[Brauap]

--Day 2--

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild019.jpg
I got the wiring harness off and ect. then started on the shocks.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild020.jpg
Doesn't it look awesome!?

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild021.jpg
Here is how I organize my bolts and stuff. Get like an old Hot Wheels holder from Wally World or somewhere.. it works great, just when you go to pick it up, the bolts slid down then you have to find where they go.. PAIN IN THE BUTT! That is why there is a rag shuved in there..

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild024.jpg
I needed 2 of these for all my bolts

Time Check
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild025.jpg

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Took the following pictures to help with reaseble

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This is before it had the rear shock:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild030.jpg

And this is after (with no shocks at all):
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild032.jpg

This thing had huge amounts of ground clearance! More than enough for the adverage GNCC racer.. huh? (JOJKING!)
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild035.jpg

More front end pics
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---Another Time Check---
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Working on the front end
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Hub wouldn't come off, so now I have to buy a new one..
I bent it, cracked it, and bend the rotor :rolleyes:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild040.jpg

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See how the one on the left, its stud isn't touching?
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild042.jpg

Dang rotor had to go too..
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild043.jpg

That rotor is messed up!!!
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild045.jpg

--trying to show you the crack--
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Here is how it sits as of 10PM Sat.
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------OK I NEED YOUR GUYS' HELP! I WASN'T THINKING AND DID THE SWINGER LAST.. HOW DO I GET EVERYTHING OFF? URHHH!!!!!
THAT HAD TO BE A MAJOR DE TA DE MOVE!
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild050.jpg

Well... more is to come! I should be taking my engine to the shop today!

--End of Day 2--

[coryatver]

your going to need to put the axle in a vice.

the reason the hub wouldn't come off is becuase you have to take the brake caliper off first. The brake rotor is bolted on the hub so theres no way its going anywhere with the caliper on there. Good luck.

Originally posted by Brauap
[B]--Day 2--


That rotor is messed up!!!
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/Rebuild045.jpg


yepppers, that hub is bent...i should have 2 hubs here soon for you for a good price if you want to buy them...they'll be the ones off of my 2000 400ex since i bought another set to be pc-ed white...i should have the white ones back any day now...they will come without bearings

Good luck with the build. Glad to see it finally going somewhere..




:devil:

[Honda#4]

Looks good, very organized. Glad to see the pivot bolt come out. Get the motor all cleaned up nice and your ready to rock.

Whats colors you plan on going with?

[Brauap]

Haha wow DMC.. I remember when you did that for me.. a long while ago! But I am going to get the same red as the bike the the "The Winter Project" thread that is going on almost a year now.. by honda runner.. but that color red with brand new red (99-04) plastics from Honda..

coryatver: I have to clamp the caliper to the brake so it wouldn't spin while I was tighting the wheel puller.. But I think I mesed up my piston in the brake... :rolleyes: That front end was a pain! I hadn't ever messed with the front end.. from now on, everything 6 months or so I am going to go and grease everything down.. like the spindles, piviot bolt, bearings, shock bearings.. ect ect

speedyquad: I will be looking forward to it!!! ;)

[Brauap]

Honda#4 I am going to take my engine to a shop to get it worked on (I just want it done professionaly and not let my back yard mechanics work on it) and we is going to sand blast is and repaint it with engine paint.. thats what he did with my YZ head.. it will look better/cleaner than it did brand new!! I am going to get new piston rings, valve check up/tune up, and a new clutch.. I am thinking about $250.. sound right?

[Honda#4]

I dont know bout the price cuz it varies from shop to shop. Motor should look good being black.

[Brauap]

nnaww.. I am just going to keep it silver

[hornetgod13]

In the pictures it looked like you were trying to remove the hubs with the brake calipers still installed. That might have been where you went wrong.

If you got the swingarm bolt out than disassembling the axle should be no problem.

[Pipeless416]

yep, leaving the caliper on will cause some problems :p

[Brauap]

Originally posted by hornetgod13
In the pictures it looked like you were trying to remove the hubs with the brake calipers still installed. That might have been where you went wrong.

If you got the swingarm bolt out than disassembling the axle should be no problem.

I already said before, I was just using the caliper to hold the rotor still so when I was using the cresent and the mallet, it would keep turning (the rotor)..

And I have my whole rear end in a vise right now, after I grab a bite to eat, I am going to go back out and start tearing it apart...

[mat1977]

Wow,its really going down!Ive been seeing your posts about this for a LONG time,Looks like your moving a long nicely.Good luck man,keep the updates coming.:D

[Brauap]

As a side note... the caliper wasn't bolted on, it was just put there then I got a zip try and put that on the brake lever and the frame to keep it from spinning...

---Update---

I got the rear hubs off, but I can't get the darn bolts off that are next to the carrier... what are some methods to get that off.. I have been using 2 mapp gas tortches to heat it up, sprays oil on, and have a big cresent on there and slamming it with that 4lb Mini BFH.. HOW DO I GET IT OFF?

[Pipeless416]

the 4 pinch bolts in the back? once i had to pound... i think an 11 mm 12 point wrench onto the outside of one of those bolts. once i did that, it gripped well enough that i could just use that.

[Brauap]

noo.. like the lock nut (its on the axle itself)

[mooseracerX]

Last winter when we took mine apart we had a bunch of sand and rust up in the axle nut my dad heated it up with a regular torch about 5 times until it was red and he still had a hard time getting it off. So heat it up until it is close to red and then squirt that Aero Kroil stuff and let it sit for a while.

my rebuild date is probally next year or the year after. When I got my 2004 in january 2007 it only had about 15 hours on it. Everyone wanted to trade me cause it looked like it was right off the showroom yet it was a 2004. My clutch is still in great shape its like new. My motor I beat on all the time but last compression test it was 110PSI so i'm still in spec. I noticed my 1 a-arm has play. My front wheels are bent up. If the cylinder is still in good shape and isnt egg shaped I probally wont bother boring it out to a 406 but i'll do 10:1 wiseco, stg 1 hotcam, new wheels, tires, bearings. I'm a bit afraid to tear mine apart because of that darn swinger bolt getting stuck and then if I break something lol. What are you plans for the whole build and does anyone know how often the crank bearing should be replaced?

[leasureryan]

don't forget that the axle nut is left hand thread....this may be the cause for it not moving.

[BamBam730]

Since you have the quad stripped down, maybe you should think about powder coating. You would not regret it. It will make the quad look great and it also goes over all the scratches that already exist.

Originally posted by BamBam730
Since you have the quad stripped down, maybe you should think about powder coating. You would not regret it. It will make the quad look great and it also goes over all the scratches that already exist.

yeah i would do it now rather than have to take it all a part again at a later date. My brother wishes he would have done it while his was a part but now he doesnt feel like taking it a part again.

[powermadd400ex]

Originally posted by FoxHondaRider
yeah i would do it now rather than have to take it all a part again at a later date. My brother wishes he would have done it while his was a part but now he doesnt feel like taking it a part again.

if braup is tight on money then he should jus leave it stock color. remeber pretty quads dont win races. put that money toward suspension or something that will help the performance of the quad.
very organized tear down braup, well done!

[Brauap]

Thank you, powermadd! However I am powdercoating it..

Can someone run threw some color schemes? I love the one I posted at the bottom of this post.. but how much does laker custom plastic cost!? Looks badd ares tho!!

I was thinking of the same red as honda runner's frame with stock honda plastic... but I may want to change my mind..

also todays summery:

--Day 3--

I got everthing apart today.. its all in peices.. and we went to take the motor to the shop today be he wasn't there.. :(

Once I get my money from Lou... (read my I'm SOL thread) I will beable to make some progress...

--End of Day 3--

that 400ex is sex. red frame, silver plastics, black accents... i'd hit it lol whose 400ex is that anyways?

[Pipeless416]

thats big fish's old quad

[hypersnyper6947]

That silver and red frame quad looks awesome, i would say one of the nicest i have ever seen. I love the clean look.

[Brauap]

Well, nothing had happend today! And nothing is going to happen for a while. I am thinking of 99-04 yellow plastic, with fire red frame, chrome top a-arm, fire red bottom a-arm, and possibly poslish up the rear swing arm (to look like chrome) then clear coat it..

What do you guys think?

[mooseracerX]

That sounds cool. Only think is I'd think you'd have hard time polishing the swing-arm.

[lilyamaharacer4]

Originally posted by mooseracerX
That sounds cool. Only think is I'd think you'd have hard time polishing the swing-arm.

+1 There will be alot of sanding and i mean ALOT.

[Brauap]

noo.. I mean like just just mothers' or something make it all shiney..? I don't know about "chrome" but shiney aluminum! haha would clean coat stick to that kind of surface? Also, with my a-arms how do you get the ball joints off of it??

[AZ440ex]

Originally posted by Brauap
noo.. I mean like just just mothers' or something make it all shiney..? I don't know about "chrome" but shiney aluminum! haha would clean coat stick to that kind of surface? Also, with my a-arms how do you get the ball joints off of it??

PC the swingarm, less work, less up-keep. There even is a "chrome" color PC if you want it to be shiney.

I might of missed it but what color plastics are you going with? That silver and red is nice together.
I am keeping stock red plastic and thinking about a pearl white fram with my cndy red a-arms and swingarm and a candy blue sub-frame, or a Artic white"bluish tint" frame and the red accents.
But its got to wait for now. It's riding season here in AZ!!!:D

Almost forgot, what type of a-arms do you have? Stock ball joints are not removable.

[AZ440ex]

Can't remember the name of the red but its a translucent red over metallic silver with chrome uppers.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh124/az440ex/ImportedPhotos00032.jpg

[hypersnyper6947]

Originally posted by AZ440ex
Can't remember the name of the red but its a translucent red over metallic silver with chrome uppers.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh124/az440ex/ImportedPhotos00032.jpg

That looks good.

I polished up a set of rear wheels that had been painted black, i had to grind the paint off and then polish i wasnt that hard and didnt take that long, they were not like a mirror or anything but the looked good. Go for it Brauap, i used a mothers ball.

[HondaRaceReady]

noo.. I mean like just just mothers' or something make it all shiney..? I don't know about "chrome" but shiney aluminum! haha would clean coat stick to that kind of surface? Also, with my a-arms how do you get the ball joints off of it??
Hell no clear coat wont stick to a polished surface. There has to be scratches for the clear coat to bite to.

lucky, i wanna rebuild my quad so bad but im turnin 16 in a few months and im gonna need a car

BTW, make sure you take your time putting it back together, last year my dad and I had his sled rebuilt (after i blew it up :o ) and we forget to connect a sensor on the bottom of the motor so we put it back together and it wouldnt run so we practically had to take it all apart again, not fun at all

[Brauap]

Sorry I havn't posted in such a long time! I finally got payed today so I should be making more/faster progress!

questions:

1) How to you get the rear sprocket hub off the axle? I have been polishing the axle and want to get the hub polished too, but I can't figure out how to get the darn thing off! In my Clymers', it doesn't tell me anything about the hub at all!

2) In the rear bearing carrier, between your bearings, there sits a metal circle that like takes up space (its supposed to be there) but is there supposed to be play in there? Like up and down? Because it looks like (when you take it out) it has been spinning and spinnging and wore the top of it down some. Do I need to buy a new carrier?



:macho I LOVE MONEY! :macho

[Honda#4]

The sprocket hub has to be pressed off, as for the spacer I dont remember off hand if there was suppose to be play in there or not.

Originally posted by Brauap
:macho I LOVE MONEY! :macho

jewish? lol Most money I held in my hand at once was $3k of my own cash i took out of the bank. Then I bought a quad and sold a quad and I have $3k in the bank after buyin a car. That my rebuild money right there. I only need $1500 of it to do almost everything I want done to my quad.

[shallow518]

my sprocket hub just had a huge circlip, just have to pry it off with a screwdriver and the hub will slide off

[Ruby Soho]

the spacer is ok to have some play.

[Brauap]

But I can't get the ring out because the hub is sitting atop of that!

And no, FoxHondaRider, I am not Jewish.

[Brauap]

Originally posted by Ruby Soho
the spacer is ok to have some play.

Thanks!

do yo u still need som hubs?

[Brauap]

Originally posted by speedyquad
do yo u still need som hubs?


I already found someone who has some, but if it doesn't follow threw, I will give you a PM. Thanks for keeping me in mind, however! And sorry, I had forgotten to get back to your PM.

[HondaHurley]

Hey im doin the same thing with my 2000 400ex :P what year is yours?

[Brauap]

Its a 2003. I was thinking something like this color scheme.. what do you guys think?

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_1373-13.jpg

Should I polish my swinger or paint it that yellow color or gloss black? Same question for my Sub frame. I am thinking about just getting an aluminum color for my hubs.. paint my E-Series gloss black for a custom look.. whatcha think?

[Brauap]

Also I chose that color because that is close to the stock yellow.. speeking of which, does anyone know the stock yellow color Honda used in 03?

[Honda#4]

I'd make the swinger black also then with a nice set off graphics that would look pretty trick.

[Brauap]

I was thinking about either keeping he stock graphics or no graphics at all, but if you can find come cool ones for me... ;)

Also, I PM'd you back.. I think baja's would look awesome on there don't you? ;)

[Honda#4]

Yea baja's aint bad pain to clean but whatcha gonna do.

[mooseracerX]

Baja's have to be a little easier than straight up beadlocks, I end up shop vacing mine out after washing it. lol I like that color scheme though.

[Honda10]

at the go for it graphics site you can make your own color scheme, so I was thinking this graphic with in yellow and black.

http://www.goforitgraphics.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=98_102_60_61&products_id=152

[HondaHurley]

I think the stock yellow is pretty sick...you going to have the flames on the seat?

[Brauap]

Thanks for that site! But, it won't let me customize the graphics.. it doesn't even show the graphics at the bottom, just the options.. wtf?

[Brauap]

Originally posted by HondaHurley
I think the stock yellow is pretty sick...you going to have the flames on the seat?

No, I am going to have the stock black "Honda" seat cover. I will probally have just plain black shock covers too.

forget about having honda on the seat...get a gripper seat cover...i will never ride without one again!

[Brauap]

Originally posted by speedyquad
forget about having honda on the seat...get a gripper seat cover...i will never ride without one again!

Really? Huh. Well if you can find one that looks nice, please post it up, and I may consider it! Thanks.

https://www.securebinarymachines.com/Verde_Powersports/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=11&cat=ATV+Seat+Covers

build your own

[Honda#4]

On the that graphics site click on the photo gallery page then go to the proofs file its the bottom folder on the left then you can photoshop any graphics you want on there.

[Brauap]

Originally posted by Honda#4
On the that graphics site click on the photo gallery page then go to the proofs file its the bottom folder on the left then you can photoshop any graphics you want on there.

What do you mean? Like I can't make any custom ones, but I can only find one that I like and photoshop it on? hhm.. :ermm:

[Honda#4]

You can make custom ones but idk if you can photoshop them on from the graphics maker, here's the link to some of the graphics maybe you'll find one you like

http://photo.gfigraphics.com/v/newproofs/

And your PM box is full

[Brauap]

Thanks. I cleaned it out.

So, yea. I found that page, but I can't find out how to customize my own graphics! Can you please post the URL, Honda#4. Also, what is your first name, I don't like calling people by there s/n's. It just sounds werid to me.

[Pipeless416]

do you even go to school? lol seems like your always on here... like me :chinese:

[Brauap]

Yea, I go to school, but I am sick, so I am off. I have been off for 3 days and I am bored out of my mind! :scary:

[Honda#4]

Here's where you can custom make your graphics

http://www.goforitgraphics.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=12#/?model=400EX&pattern=passion


My name is Dallas if you wanna know.

[Brauap]

Originally posted by Pipeless416
... like me :chinese:

lol :p

[Brauap]

Originally posted by Honda#4
Here's where you can custom make your graphics

http://www.goforitgraphics.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=12#/?model=400EX&pattern=passion


My name is Dallas if you wanna know.

Thanks, but where is it where you like get to customize like Akrix graphics? I remember doing it about a year ago, but I can't remember! Like you, you got yours customized.

[Honda#4]

When I did mine all I did was click down screens that have the colors and pick what I wanted then you add weather or not you want the proof, I reccomend that cuz then you'll know what your graphics will look like to see if you wanna change anything, then if you like the proof they'll go ahead and make the graphics.

Anyways thats what I did for mine sorry if its confusing.

[Brauap]

Could you please post the URL? uhhh............ know what? I think I am just going to go with a nice "clean" look... thisis too confusing.

[Pipeless416]

i love not having any graphics. some quads can pull if off, but i think it can make them look too busy sometimes.

[Brauap]

Well, today I found out my steering stem is bent (what a surprise that was, with all the times I have rolled it. lol) So, now I don't know if I should find like a cheep aftermarket, like +1 or just a used stock one. Dunno...

[ZeroLogic]

Originally posted by Brauap
:macho I LOVE MONEY! :macho


That looks like my paycheck.

[Brauap]

Originally posted by ZeroLogic
That looks like my paycheck.

lol


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I think I am just going to buy a new (to me) stock OE.

Do you guys want my list? I got it pretty much all down... l

[Brauap]

Originally posted by Brauap
Do you guys want my list? I got it pretty much all down... l

Anyone? No?

[Brauap]

Well, did some polishing yesterday.. well its like today.. its 1 AM lol..

I got the tie rods looking like chrome, as with the axle, motor mounts, and my rear caliper. I should get some pictures later today, lol, or tomarrow.. how ever you want to say it.. but on Sunday.

I also should be (FINALLY) taking my engine to the shop later today! I am so excited! Also, I have a deal hooked up on a set of 04 450R shocks.. it's slowly comming together! Once I get the frame sandblasted, painted, and the engine in it, it should be going much, MUCH faster. Sorry I am making such slow process.. its hard working around the parents work schedule..

Originally posted by Brauap
Well, did some polishing yesterday.. well its like today.. its 1 AM lol..

I got the tie rods looking like chrome, as with the axle, motor mounts, and my rear caliper. I should get some pictures later today, lol, or tomarrow.. how ever you want to say it.. but on Sunday.

I also should be (FINALLY) taking my engine to the shop later today! I am so excited! Also, I have a deal hooked up on a set of 04 450R shocks.. it's slowly comming together! Once I get the frame sandblasted, painted, and the engine in it, it should be going much, MUCH faster. Sorry I am making such slow process.. its hard working around the parents work schedule..

Good find on the 04 shocks:D

They were a little plusher than the 05-08

[Honda#4]

Dont worry about going slow thats why its so fun reading a build up and watching the progress.

Keep it up Brauap !

[Brauap]

Do you guys like this look?

(Yes, I still can't make up my mind!! lol)

[Brauap]

Here are some of those parts I polished.. (I finally found my camra.. lol)

Also, there like fog on them because it is incredibly cold outside but all are close to being mirriored..

Engine Mounts:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2110.jpg


http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2111.jpg


Block Off:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2114.jpg

Started on the Swinarm:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2112.jpg

Rear Caliper:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2115.jpg

Tie Rods:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2116.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2117.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2118.jpg

Aww man! I forgot to grab pics of the axle.. maybe later..

[BlasterEaten250]

Originally posted by Brauap
Do you guys like this look?

(Yes, I still can't make up my mind!! lol) black rims

[Brauap]

It'll have normal aluminum ITP Baja's reinforced wheels..

[BlasterEaten250]

cool, I was just sayin black rims would look nice with the orange frame and such

[Brauap]

Yea it would, I just don't want to have to worry about the paint chipping, you know?

Also, I am getting another WB E-Series, and I was thinking about painting the can gloss black and paining the end peice the same color as the frame.. whatcha think? Or should I just polish it? Because you NEVER see colored e-series..

[BlasterEaten250]

That would look pretty nice, I'm actually thinking about powdercoating mine black when I get my frame done orange someday. I might just end up selling the e series though so who knows

[Brauap]

Originally posted by BlasterEaten250
I might just end up selling the e series though so who knows

Ohhhhhhhh rrrrreeeeheheheheeeaaaaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy? ;)

[powermadd400ex]

Originally posted by BlasterEaten250
That would look pretty nice, I'm actually thinking about powdercoating mine black when I get my frame done orange someday. I might just end up selling the e series though so who knows

what are you going to buy if you sell the wb?

[BlasterEaten250]

Maybe a pro circuit type 496 or possibly a yoshimura. Something quiet

[alberto]

So far the build is pretty cool. I got tons of ideas and good info from all your hard work. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!

[Brauap]

Originally posted by alberto
So far the build is pretty cool. I got tons of ideas and good info from all your hard work. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You! ;)

[Brauap]

:devil: Yea! Just got my 04-05 450R's today!! Everyone is asking, "Dude, why are you so excited? You can't even use them! haha" and my responce is, "Yea, but its progress to my build!"

Here are some pictures....

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_0589.jpg



What is this little thing? Its like a flat head on the side..?
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_0590.jpg


Overall, these shocks are in excelent condition and I was very luck to of found them for 140 shipped. I am very happy! Looks to be if they where used a few times in 05 then where taken off! :D

[lilyamaharacer4]

Originally posted by Brauap
What is this little thing? Its like a flat head on the side..?

Rebound adjuster Compression is up by the resevoir.

[Brauap]

But this is at the bottom..?

Could someone please help me to understand the shocks?

Likes whats rebound? How do you adjust it? And any other terms I need to know to adjust these. Thanks!

[tyman2395]

man nice shocks i must get myself a pair. That is after i get all my other parts bought and paid for. Money Money money easy to spend, hard to come by

Originally posted by Brauap
But this is at the bottom..?

Could someone please help me to understand the shocks?

Likes whats rebound? How do you adjust it? And any other terms I need to know to adjust these. Thanks!

Preload- How hard the springs are. If you're a heavier guy you adjust the preload higher to hold the weight better, and not sink as much.

Rebound- How fast the shocks returns back up from its travel. Like after it compresses, rebound is the action of coming back up. You adjust how fast it does.

Compression- How fast the shock goes down. The opposite of rebound.

I THINK thats how it works

The bottom one is most likely compression if the top is rebound.

[mooseracerX]

Bottom is rebound and top is compression.

[Brauap]

For XC I'd want them pretty soft right? Would I want my shocks to move fast or slow? (This is kind of confusing..)

[mooseracerX]

Well you'll wanna set your ride height using preload spring. Then put the rebound and compression in the middle and ride it a bit and adjust it from there.
Here's an informative site.
http://www.atvrideronline.com/tech/100_0508_set_up_suspension/index.html

[Brauap]

Serious question guys....

But first here is the whole story..

So, today my cousin called (thought I was still looking for a dirt bike) and said he found a YZ450F right around me for $1200 because he is moving to FL tomarrow.. but I said that I was now rebuilding my quad and he said, Ok then, I'm going to go take it then, haha..

But then we got in to talking and he brought up that his buddy has an 05 450R for sale (I have ALWAYS wanted one!) but then he goes into more details like...

It has Hiper Wheels
LSR Axacailber +2 Axle
(I forget) +2 A-arms
Full HMF Exhaust
Graphic kit
and PEP shocks!!

Then he brought up the price.. he wants 2800.. :eek: WHOA!


Now to my question.............

Should I rebuild my 400, (screw the clarke tank, itp bajas, ect.. )just make it run and look nice, sell it, and buy the 450!? If I take my time polishing everything.. I bet I could get 3G for it, and I could stil have some $$ left over if I don't spend it all for the rebuild... what are your guy's NON-biest opinions?

Originally posted by Brauap
Serious question guys....

But first here is the whole story..

So, today my cousin called (thought I was still looking for a dirt bike) and said he found a YZ450F right around me for $1200 because he is moving to FL tomarrow.. but I said that I was now rebuilding my quad and he said, Ok then, I'm going to go take it then, haha..

But then we got in to talking and he brought up that his buddy has an 05 450R for sale (I have ALWAYS wanted one!) but then he goes into more details like...

It has Hiper Wheels
LSR Axacailber +2 Axle
(I forget) +2 A-arms
Full HMF Exhaust
Graphic kit
and PEP shocks!!

Then he brought up the price.. he wants 2800.. :eek: WHOA!


Now to my question.............

Should I rebuild my 400, (screw the clarke tank, itp bajas, ect.. )just make it run and look nice, sell it, and buy the 450!? If I take my time polishing everything.. I bet I could get 3G for it, and I could stil have some $$ left over if I don't spend it all for the rebuild... what are your guy's NON-biest opinions?

DO IT.

You will not get 3g's for the 400ex. Maybe if you clean it real well and polish a lot of things, you MAY be able to get 2200..

But its still worth the extra 600. I would take a 450 if I had the chance.

But ask yourself this.. that 450r is obviously set up for mx. Just narrow it up and you have a nice xc bike.

[Ruby Soho]

few things

you won't get 3000 for it. why, someone could easily find the 450 you want and buy that for 200 less.

how do you know the 450 will still be for sale by the time you get the 400ex put back together and running better than perfect?

you've said numerous times you ride long trails. got the 400ex 2x4 for a "challenge".. but you want enormous tires for hard trails. a 450 like that will be more than a challenge to take through tough trails. its hard enough riding them in trails when they're set up for motocross.

[Brauap]

Also if you look at it

back in 1999-04 GNCC not alot of pros (at all) used a 400EX, most use 250R's,Cannadales,Banshees, ect then once the 450R came out, WHAM! All the prose (Honda sponsored) is riding them!

Plus they look 10x nicer too!

Yea, DMC also, If I don't like those +2, I could sell them and maybe get 500+ ... dunno..

and around here ok/nice 400's are going 2.2-3.? G.. depends.. If I can't sell it for 3 I will drop it to 2.8 then 2.6.. then 2.5.. ect ect..

[coryatver]

Originally posted by Brauap
! All the prose (Honda sponsored) is riding them!



There are no honda pro gncc racers they are all privateers. Man you are getting WAAAAAAAAAY ahead of yourself. Just build yourself a nice 400 right now that you can offord and then in a few years you can get a 450r when you are older.

[Brauap]

Chris Borich? 250R-450R
Bill Balance? 250r-YFZ450-YFZ450R (450-450R Yamaha)

Originally posted by Brauap
Chris Borich? 250R-450R
Bill Balance? 250r-YFZ450-YFZ450R (450-450R Yamaha)

he meant that honda has NO factory support. If you race honda, your on your own. Its almost like honda wants no part in it.

On the other hand, yamaha takes good care of their racers.

[mooseracerX]

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX

On the other hand, yamaha takes good care of their racers.
I'd sure hope any manufacturer that has a factory team treats their riders well. :)

[racerdan24]

Isn't it simple......factory rider....do well...factory happy.....

do crappy and factory drops you.....simple

[Brauap]

---------------------------
My Parts Needed List!
---------------------------

Paint frame OEM color
OEM Bumper
New OEM Yellow Plastics (front/rear/sides/tank & handle bar covers)
New Bearings
Engine Tune-Up
Bolt Kit
OEM Tires
OEM Handlebars
OEM Wiring Harness
OEM Air box w/ filter
OEM Shifter
OEM Sproket cover
OEM Seat Gromets
New Lub Nuts
OEM Front hub w/ rotor
OEM Headlight assembly
OEM Battery
OEM Battery Box
OEM Exhaust
OEM Chain/Sprockets
OEM Brake Pads
OEM Swingarm skid
OEM Subframe
OEM Piviot Bolt
OEM Rear fender braket
OEM Engine skid
450R Front shocks (or if I can get the stockers real clean)

[Brauap]

This is what it looks like now:

---------------------------
My Parts Needed List!
---------------------------

Paint frame OEM color
New OEM Yellow Plastics (front/rear/sides/tank & handle bar covers)
Engine Tune-Up
OEM Tires
OEM Wiring Harness
OEM Air box w/ filter
New Lub Nuts
OEM Front hub w/ rotor
OEM Headlight assembly
OEM Battery
OEM Battery Box
OEM Chain/Sprockets
OEM Brake Pads
OEM Swingarm skid
OEM Subframe
OEM Engine skid

how long will this take you?

[Brauap]

Originally posted by hondarider661
how long will this take you?

I am guessing I will be done around mid-febuary.. :ermm:

[mooseracerX]

Originally posted by Brauap
I am guessing I will be done around mid-febuary.. :ermm:
That's about when I'll be starting mine.

[Honda10]

how come you are getting all of these OEM parts and not aftermarket

[Brauap]

Originally posted by Honda10
how come you are getting all of these OEM parts and not aftermarket

I am going to make it either mint or close to mint, then I am going to sell it for a 450R. :cool:

[Brauap]

Originally posted by mooseracerX
That's about when I'll be starting mine.

wtf? You don't need it!

[400ex07]

are u going to resell the 450r shocks?

[Brauap]

Originally posted by 400ex07
are u going to resell the 450r shocks?

possibly. Depends on how nice I can get the stock ones looking.

[UNBROKEN]

yea brauap u might get 2200 for it and thats a maybe i sold mine for 1800 it wasnt in the best cosmetic shape but had a brand new topend and ran great so dont do wut i did and put a bunch of money into ure quad and sell it, and the market sux btw u practicley have to give ure stuff away to sell it so if u want top dollar for ure 400 then by the time u get it the 450r might be sold

[400ex07]

IMO I would just clean it and sell it the way it was when u took it apart. You wont get much more money for doing all the little things.

[Honda10]

yea I say you sould try cleaning it the best you can, just look at the guy in this forum a couple down with the super shiny plastics. Try that and see if you can sell it as is.

[mooseracerX]

Originally posted by Brauap
wtf? You don't need it!
LOL Thank you. If I'm going to hang with the B class guys next year I'm going to need
Ball Joints
Rear Bearings
Frame Gusset
Then I'm hoping to do some motor work and hopefully some work on the shocks.
I've got a crazy color scheme up my sleeve. DMC knows what I'm talking about.

Originally posted by mooseracerX
LOL Thank you. If I'm going to hang with the B class guys next year I'm going to need
Ball Joints
Rear Bearings
Frame Gusset
Then I'm hoping to do some motor work and hopefully some work on the shocks.
I've got a crazy color scheme up my sleeve. DMC knows what I'm talking about.

I think I remember that.. the one I photoshopped for ya. I wont tell anyone till you do it.:D

[mooseracerX]

Yeah you did a good job. Yea top secret. lol :rolleyes:

[Brauap]

My Parts Needed List!
---------------------------

Paint frame OEM color
New OEM Yellow Plastics (front/rear/sides/tank & handle bar covers)
Engine Tune-Up
OEM Tires
OEM Wiring Harness
New Lub Nuts
OEM Headlight assembly
OEM Battery
OEM Chain/Sprockets
OEM Brake Pads

:devil: :devil: :devil:

[brian76708]

why do you need a new wiring harness plus if your going to sell it why put a lot of money into unless its necessary (not saying the wiring harness inst needed)

[Brauap]

Because I had done a whole lotta stupid stuff to my stock one. haha

I tied an alarm in..
cut the wires for custom lights..
had to tear it all down trying to find out where some wires went bad.. then had to re-route the wires then had to electrical tape it all up again.. its just one big fugly mess! haha

[Brauap]

This is just going to show where I am going to purchase these at..


Paint frame OEM color
(a spray can.. hah)

New OEM Yellow Plastics (front/rear/sides/tank & handle bar covers)
(dealer)

Engine Tune-Up
(me)

OEM Tires
(dealer)

OEM Wiring Harness
(someone somewhere)

New Lub Nuts
(dealer)

OEM Headlight assembly
(someone somewhere)

OEM Battery
(dealer)

OEM Chain/Sprockets
(dealer)

OEM Brake Pads
(dealer)

[Brauap]

Well, tomarrow I am going to get my parts sand blasted!!! (finally!) and once everything is painted.. everything should go together pretty fast! I am getting so excited!!

[Brauap]

Paint frame OEM color
New OEM Yellow Plastics (front/rear/sides/tank & handle bar covers)
Engine Tune-Up
OEM Tires
OEM Wiring Harness
New Lub Nuts
OEM Headlight assembly
OEM Battery
OEM Chain/Sprockets

Do you guys think I should go with the stock yellow/silver look, or do you think I should go with black and yellow? Like black engine, frame, subframe, bumper, a-arms ect. with stock yellow plastics? Or no?

I am not quite sure what to do..

[qwad guy]

black and yellow >stock silver and yellow

Originally posted by Brauap
Paint frame OEM color
New OEM Yellow Plastics (front/rear/sides/tank & handle bar covers)
Engine Tune-Up
OEM Tires
OEM Wiring Harness
New Lub Nuts
OEM Headlight assembly
OEM Battery
OEM Chain/Sprockets

Do you guys think I should go with the stock yellow/silver look, or do you think I should go with black and yellow? Like black engine, frame, subframe, bumper, a-arms ect. with stock yellow plastics? Or no?

I am not quite sure what to do..

I thought you were putting it back to stock to sell it.

Honestly, do stock silver.

Make the thing look like it just came off the showroom floor. I know there's a lot of people like me who like un-molested stuff, and even though yours isn't make it look like it has less than an hour on it.

[tyman2395]

ya i have to agree with dmc go with stock silver it will look mint

[qwad guy]

Oh i didnt realize you were selling it! Im gona say stock silver then.

[Brauap]

Also.. do you guys think I should polish stuff or just make it have a brushed look? Like the tie rods.. axle.. and caliper and that is polished or should I just go over that with some steel wool to make it look brushed? Would a stock machine look good to have polished parts or no? Do you understand?

[tyman2395]

i think the polish would catch some eyes and would make you bike look sharp for buyers

[Yippie-Ki-Yay]

If your going to resell those 450r shocks, contact me, im interrested!

[Yippie-Ki-Yay]

If your going to resell those 450r shocks, contact me, im interrested!

[Brauap]

You have a PM... ;)

[Brauap]

Time for some updates, don't you say?

Well, I got everything all painted today and it looks great! The frame, sub frame, head sheild, bumper, a-arms, throttle housing, rear hubs, foot pegs, rear brake lever, and some more. I will post pictures tomarrow once I get home from school.. I have them all taken, but there uploading and won't be done for a long time..

I am going to wait til Friday night to touch the parts again to make sure everything is 100% dry. Right now, they all are sitting in my room, behind me, on a peice of carboard w/ my room full of fumes.. I think I may just be high.. :bandit: hah

So next weekend I will be dropping the bottom end in and be building er' up! I still need to order some parts (sprockets, new lug nuts, wiring harness, and possibly a seat cover and plastics. I say possibly because I have a guy wanting to trade me his 450R for mine and he wants it ASAP and may not want to wait for the plastics.. oh well.. but you guys may not be able to see the finshed thing.. sorry if it turns out that way!) If you have a wiring harness for sale let me know via PM! I would take it right off your hands! (99-04)

So thats all for now! Sorry I took so long for this.. I have had it sandblasted for a while now, but didn't think it was enough for an update.

Well, I g2g2 bed now.. later

[alberto]

bout damn time you up dated us :) Can wait to see the picks.

[Brauap]

Everythings all primered.. and beings warmed up in front of the torpedo heater (110,000BTU)

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2141.jpg

[Brauap]

Another:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2142.jpg

[Brauap]

Here is the frame that had been primered a week before (All the parts where)

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2143.jpg

[Brauap]

Another of the frame:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2144.jpg

[Brauap]

The weather sucked. It was freezing cold!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2145.jpg

[Brauap]

Here was the gun we used. (Thanks Uncle Kenny!)

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2146.jpg

[Brauap]

Here was the first tack coat on some of the parts:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2147.jpg

[Brauap]

The axle.. still needs the hub to be done in black (will tape everything else off then get it)

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2148.jpg

[Brauap]

Just more weather pictures.. here in wonderful Ohio.. :rolleyes:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2149.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2150.jpg
If you look, its reading 12.6* F
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2154.jpg

[tyman2395]

ya theres snow here to lol to cold to work. And it's not alot of fun driving my rm in the snow

[Brauap]

The only way to cook them in the garage w/o a microwave! lol
It works and makes then real nice and crispy! :p

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2151.jpg

[tyman2395]

lol thats to funny lol they heat pretty good?

[Brauap]

Had to rattle can some parts.. :ermm:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2152.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2153.jpg

[Brauap]

Originally posted by tyman2395
lol thats to funny lol they heat pretty good?

Yea.. but it takes about 4 minutes for each side.. but trust me.. it gets hot and if you don't turn it fast enough those 110,000 BTU's will get you! haha

[tyman2395]

lol ya i got a wood stove but i need to go get it then i will get that in and clean my garage up

[Brauap]

The frame being painted:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2155.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2156.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2157.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2158.jpg

[Brauap]

The frame and that after it has been clear coated:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2159.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2160.jpg

[tyman2395]

lookin good

[Brauap]

Dad clearcoating:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2161.jpg

[Brauap]

Sorry those pictures where 'fogy'
There where TONS of fumes in there air.. so much so, you can barly see 20ft. Our eyes where burning soo bad! (Mine worse than his, I got shot in the eyes with clear coat! haha) W/o our masks we probally wouldn't last 30 mintues in there.


Well, here is the next picture until next weekend after I start reassbly. Any comments?

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2163.jpg

[Brauap]

Oh yea, the a-arms are in the garage still, thats why they arn't in that last pictures.

The color of the a-arms and (sub)frame is soo beautiful! Its just not silver.. its a little darker than the 99-04 silver frames.. but it have silver flake in there and w/ clear coat. WOW! :eek2: Thanks again to my uncle. He use to do it for a living and had the extra paint. There wasn't enough (he gave us 3 cans, different silvers) so we mixxed them and it was beautiful! The pictures really don't do it the justice it deserves!

Also, like the chrome paint on the swinger/axle/oil rezzy? About 3 bucks and in person, it CAN be mistaken as chrome too!

[Pipeless416]

parts are looking amazing.

[440challenger]

nice job man!!! those SATA guns are the shizzler. big money

[Honda#4]

WOW! Now that looks great Colten good job. How was painting the frame? easy,difficult?

[Brauap]

Originally posted by Honda#4
WOW! Now that looks great Colten good job. How was painting the frame? easy,difficult?


Veryyyyyy difficult. You have to get behind every little clip, gasket, hole, creves, everything! PAIN IN THE BUTT! You have alot of work ahead of you if you plan on painting yours.. we only did 2 coats of everything with that gun.. if you plan on using a can.. whoa. I had my dad do most of the painting (I did a little with the rattle can... I let him do it because he knew what he was doing.. and he has done it before (all his custom dune buggies and that.. and he said that was the hardest thing he has painted.. much harder than those buggies (full size))

Thanks guys for the responses!

Brauap, just when I think you couldn't get any stupider, you go do something like this and totally redeem yourself!!

lol, j/p

Those parts are looking absolutely amazing. Especially the frame/swinger.

After all that work I wouldn't want to get rid of it.

[Brauap]

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
Brauap, just when I think you couldn't get any stupider, you go do something like this and totally redeem yourself!!

lol, j/p

Those parts are looking absolutely amazing. Especially the frame/swinger.

After all that work I wouldn't want to get rid of it.

For a tricked out 450 you would. :blah: ha and thanks!

Originally posted by Brauap
For a tricked out 450 you would. :blah: ha and thanks!

true dat:p

I still eventually want a kfx450r or hybrid. But things been tight lately.

[mat1977]

Nice job brauap,ya gotta get black plastics!!with all that silver it would look sick!

[exrider272]

got to say brauap... u impressed me.

looks good buddy.

[coryatver]

looks a lot better than i thought i would. really good job. Going to be hard to let that go once your done putting all that hard work into it.

[racerdan24]

It definitely looks awesome...you have redeemed yourself for all of the crap questions that people may have complained about over the last few months

[Brauap]

Originally posted by coryatver
looks a lot better than i thought i would. really good job. Going to be hard to let that go once your done putting all that hard work into it.

nahh..

[Honda#4]

Veryyyyyy difficult. You have to get behind every little clip, gasket, hole, creves, everything! PAIN IN THE BUTT! You have alot of work ahead of you if you plan on painting yours.. we only did 2 coats of everything with that gun.. if you plan on using a can.. whoa. I had my dad do most of the painting (I did a little with the rattle can... I let him do it because he knew what he was doing.. and he has done it before (all his custom dune buggies and that.. and he said that was the hardest thing he has painted.. much harder than those buggies (full size))


I forgot to ask how did you end up prepping it? Problem I have is trying to find an area to hang the bugger, with being in school I thought I'd have more time on my hands for little things but I cant even manage to go to the hardware place to match up some wheel studs so I can put my front tires on, I miss my quad life!.

[Brauap]

I sandblasted it then I used an epoxy primer then painted it (NOTE: IF YOU LET IT SIT FOR MORE THAN AN HOUR AFTER PRIMER YOU HAVE TO GET A BROWN SCOTCH BRIGHT PAG AND RUFF EVERYTHING UP. YOU HAVE TO CLEAR COAT WITHIN 1 HOUR OF PAINTING ALSO.)

[Brauap]

Originally posted by Honda#4
I forgot to ask how did you end up prepping it? Problem I have is trying to find an area to hang the bugger, with being in school I thought I'd have more time on my hands for little things but I cant even manage to go to the hardware place to match up some wheel studs so I can put my front tires on, I miss my quad life!.

Oh and ways of hanging.. to hang the little stuff, we used a later with pipes and we hung the little stuff like that (could of hung the big stuff, but we just used out table.. we only used that for drying) and before that we used an only swing set frame. (Swing set w/o the swings)

Tell you the truth, after you finish, PC seems soo cheap! If you PC it, it will be done faster, better, and last longer.. If I had to do it again, I'd gladly pay 150ish for the frame and sub. But this was a good experience tho.

[Honda#4]

I dont really have the money for PC, plus PC wont match my paint, I really dont know if I could get my quad tore down without everything else getting in the way. Sure feels like it is getting close for me to start thinking of selling it but I just dont have the heart to, lucky I have a snowmobile to sell before the quad gets it but i'm holding out on the quad for as long as I can.

[f4istunna]

looks good man. lotta work huh?

[Brauap]

Originally posted by f4istunna
looks good man. lotta work huh?

Hey bud! Yea, it sure is! I should be going to Canfield Honda later tonight and be ordering the piston, rings, gaskets, ect and be taking my head and cylinder in.. (hone the cylinder and replace the vavle seals)

I also may be buying the wiring harness off of 440challenger.. and I am going to be using my tires I have (Rear Razrs and front Carlisle Badlands)

This is my new, updated list:

lug nuts
engine work
wiring harness
sprockets/chain
------------
POSSIBLY
------------
Plastics (Black Full Bores from 440challenger)
Cheap gripper via eBay

I may be forgetting something.. :ermm:

[F150 Rider]

What`s Up Brauap! man yall did a good job painting the parts! I bet that was a pain getting paint in all those crevices on the frame but it turned out great and it looks good!

[Brauap]

Originally posted by F150 Rider
What`s Up Brauap! man yall did a good job painting the parts! I bet that was a pain getting paint in all those crevices on the frame but it turned out great and it looks good!

Thanks bud! :)

Also later tonight I will probally put one more coat on everything (except the (sub)frame and a arms) its real thin and I will also clear coat the parts I repaint too.. the chrome should look realll nice then!

[mcwilly]

Looks good. Nice job!

[Brauap]

Good news & Bad news...

Good news! I started putting it back together! Got about half of the front end done, before the torpedo heater ran out of karosene.. :( and it got realll cold realll fast! I went out side and I used that heat sensor thing-a-ma-bob and it read... -59! YEA.. :scary:

Bad news! We went to go clear coat the chrome stuff today and it.. well.. didn't turn out soo well. The oil rezzy and the bottom of the swinger is now a dull grey. I was sooo up set! I had some werid chemical reaction to it. I am also re-painting the frame about 20 good times to make sure it lasts.

More kinda bad news.. kinda good is that dad doesn't trust me to build the engine on my own.. which really PO'd me.. but they offered to pay for it then.. so I guess I am OK with it. Not sure yet....

Also one of my things on the side of the a-arms the pushes in and seats next to the bushings.. I am missing one.. what is the name of that so I can order another?

Well.. thats all the good stuff thats going on.. later.

[smelly$cat]

Maybe post a pic of the part you are missing, I can't picture it based on your description.

[Brauap]

Originally posted by smelly$cat
Maybe post a pic of the part you are missing, I can't picture it based on your description.

I had actually found it.... after crawling around on the floor.. the cold.. COLD floor. haha

I have gotten the whole front end on.. I need to put the brake lines back on, and I need to put new fluid back in them.. I got the stem and bars on.. with the thumb throttle.. started putting the swinger back together too

[smelly$cat]

Nice! It had to be there somewhere eh? :)

[Honda#4]

Not to make you worry about something else Colten but when you go too put gas in make sure you pay extra attention so you dont spill any, let me tell you it's a royal pain cuz the gas makes the paint turn into a sticky paste and the only way to get it off is to blast it lucky for me it just hit my heatshield and that was it but getting it on a frame could be a nightmare.

Just a tip for ya.

Sounds like your making good progress?

[Brauap]

Originally posted by Honda#4
Not to make you worry about something else Colten but when you go too put gas in make sure you pay extra attention so you dont spill any, let me tell you it's a royal pain cuz the gas makes the paint turn into a sticky paste and the only way to get it off is to blast it lucky for me it just hit my heatshield and that was it but getting it on a frame could be a nightmare.

Just a tip for ya.

Sounds like your making good progress?

Didn't think about that! Well, I can tell ya'll.. that this is the last time I paint something that big again.. I am just going to get it powdercoated, most deffently. I had painted my heat shild about a year before this, and it was just paint.. and it held up with about 1-2 gallons of gas on it over that time period, no chipping, no paste-like substance.. I can amagine the clear coat doing that, however.

[Brauap]

Summor updates! (AND PICTURES!:blah: )

Here is a little vid.. I thought it was cool and it shows how cold it is out in the garage.............................
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http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2173.jpg

PICHERS!!!!!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2168.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2169.jpg

w/o this baby.. I wouldn't be able to do any of this!
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2170.jpg

This kit from eBay ($15 sum) really comes in handy!
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2171.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/100_2172.jpg

[Brauap]

Also.. we took the engine to the shop today.

[3or4HONDA]

wow...videos like that is why you catch so much flak on this site......good lookin frame tho

[tyman2395]

looking really good brauap

[racerdan24]

Ok....i was watching the vid until the homemade urinal came out and had to kill it....hey bro...after the rebuild and your parents helping you out finacially, maybe its time to straighten up the garage......

[F150 Rider]

its coming along good man! it must be insanely cold up there that was a cool vid to! I finally got to ride some today(it was REAL COLD) new 13tooth front sprocket works awsome!!

[Brauap]

Originally posted by racerdan24
Ok....i was watching the vid until the homemade urinal came out and had to kill it....hey bro...after the rebuild and your parents helping you out finacially, maybe its time to straighten up the garage......

It was real neat until the rebuild... believe it or not.. I am better at keeping it clean than my dad.. he just goes though and dumps stuff.. urg. :mad: btw there only paying for the engine work because they don't want me doing it, and they agreed to pay for it as long a pro does it

[Brauap]

ooh.. and we got the wood burner hooked up today!! It is soo awesome! It has a thermostat and a fan and its just so nice!

[powermadd400ex]

Originally posted by Brauap
It was real neat until the rebuild... believe it or not.. I am better at keeping it clean than my dad.. he just goes though and dumps stuff.. urg. :mad: btw there only paying for the engine work because they don't want me doing it, and they agreed to pay for it as long a pro does it
lucky, i have to pay for mine :scary:

[Brauap]

Originally posted by powermadd400ex
lucky, i have to pay for mine :scary:

Yea.. I know I am.. I am very lucky! I do have to pay for everything else out of my pocket though..

[theTman]

you done yet?

[Brauap]

Nope. I am going to be putting it back to OEM because the deal fell through on the 450.. :grr: :mad: :grr: its going to be taking a littttle longer now.. :rolleyes:

[storms400ex]

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: x2

[storms400ex]

DAYDREAMER :rolleyes:

[Brauap]

Originally posted by storms400ex
DAYDREAMER :rolleyes:

I'll show all you dum bass motherf'ckers.. I will get this done, and I will get a bad ares T R X 4 5 0 R !

[storms400ex]

:eek2:

[3or4HONDA]

450's will be old news by that time.....:rolleyes:

[Brauap]

Originally posted by 3or4HONDA
450's will be old news by that time.....:rolleyes:

wtf do you mean?

[Pipeless416]

Originally posted by storms400ex
DAYDREAMER :rolleyes:

after looking at your past posts, you have some of the most worthless replies out of anybody on this website. please stop being a waste of webspace. brauap, with how good your 400 is looking, i would almost consider it a blessing in disguise. keep up the good work.

Everyone's such a drama queen @sswipe on this site.

All you noobs, go screw yourselves.

Brauap, I wouldn't worry about the 450r. It's looking damn good so even if you do keep it then it's not all that bad. Just take care of it:p

[racerdan24]

Exactly...do your quad they way you want and thats what matters....i am not saying this to be mean, you are young enough to have many years of owning quads....Get this one done and keep taking pics as you go..its looking great and keep going.

[Honda#4]

Any progress Colten? Dont worry about the stupid remarks man weather or not if you get a 450 its ok to have something to always look forward getting or to have big dreams it doesnt make you a stupid person just unique. Half of the time people are just jealous of other people because they can have something that the other person cant get so dont worry what people say.

[racerdan24]

I agree.....can't someone have a dream without getting kicked in the nuts for it? Geezzzzzzzzzzzz:grr:

[alberto]

DAMN it cold where your at. The vid was cool and the build is coming along real nice. LET THE HATERS HATE. Just do your thing.

[trx250rider]

Originally posted by Honda#4
Any progress Colten? Dont worry about the stupid remarks man weather or not if you get a 450 its ok to have something to always look forward getting or to have big dreams it doesnt make you a stupid person just unique. Half of the time people are just jealous of other people because they can have something that the other person cant get so dont worry what people say.
__________________
03' Roll Design/Custom Axis/C&D
Racing 416!! My Dream quad!!

Jetting- K170,40 pilot, 2nd slot on clip,no lid, 2 1/2 turns out on A/F screw

Gone as far as I can with the quad for now.

Special thanks to...
Colby@C&D Racing
G4 Graphics
Team2powersports
RockyMountain
Chino886
K&K ATV
JL ATV
Magic Racing
Blais Racing
Metro Powersports
IMS/Roll Design
Motosportoutlet
And To my wife

October QOTM Winner!

wasnt october the month they wanted to change the rules because the worst looking quad won?

[Honda#4]

wasnt october the month they wanted to change the rules because the worst looking quad won?

Really does it even matter anymore? not really. And I really beg to differ if yours looks any better than mine does no offense.

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
Everyone's such a drama queen @sswipe on this site.

All you noobs, go screw yourselves.

Brauap, I wouldn't worry about the 450r. It's looking damn good so even if you do keep it then it's not all that bad. Just take care of it:p

not trying to start a riot but your one to talk. You and Brauap make a nice couple.

Originally posted by FlewByU352
not trying to start a riot but your one to talk. You and Brauap make a nice couple.

Wow.. nice comeback noob. Why don't you head on over to www.asspackerforums.com when you get a chance.

All you new guys are immature idiots.

How would you even know any of us? I'm sure your 24 posts on this site introduced you to everyone.:rolleyes:

[powermadd400ex]

Originally posted by trx250rider
__________________
03' Roll Design/Custom Axis/C&D
Racing 416!! My Dream quad!!

Jetting- K170,40 pilot, 2nd slot on clip,no lid, 2 1/2 turns out on A/F screw

Gone as far as I can with the quad for now.

Special thanks to...
Colby@C&D Racing
G4 Graphics
Team2powersports
RockyMountain
Chino886
K&K ATV
JL ATV
Magic Racing
Blais Racing
Metro Powersports
IMS/Roll Design
Motosportoutlet
And To my wife

October QOTM Winner!

wasnt october the month they wanted to change the rules because the worst looking quad won?

your a tool

dallas has one of the nicest quad on this site. if your so high and mighty go compete in the next qotm and see how many votes you get.

Originally posted by powermadd400ex
your a tool

dallas has one of the nicest quad on this site. if your so high and mighty go compete in the next qotm and see how many votes you get.

haha, x2

Wait a second.. is this the reincarnation of foxhondarider... I thought he was gone lol

ohh, which reminds me, im gonna try to send you that pic now.

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
Wow.. nice comeback noob. Why don't you head on over to www.asspackerforums.com when you get a chance.

All you new guys are immature idiots.

How would you even know any of us? I'm sure your 24 posts on this site introduced you to everyone.:rolleyes:

I have been reading post before I started posting on here just looking up some questions. I see you in quite a few threads making fun of people. Really you have no right to talk, all I see is a hypocrite.

Originally posted by FlewByU352
I have been reading post before I started posting on here just looking up some questions. I see you in quite a few threads making fun of people. Really you have no right to talk, all I see is a hypocrite.

Yeah, that was a while back. I used to be a "tool" when I first signed up and throughout most of the Hondamaster posts. I don't mind admitting it. I don't do that stuff anymore unless they truely are a tool. Like EliteATV, Slow, and FoxHondaRider.

Actually I haven't really been in any fights for a while now.

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
Yeah, that was a while back. I used to be a "tool" when I first signed up and throughout most of the Hondamaster posts. I don't mind admitting it. I don't do that stuff anymore unless they truely are a tool. Like EliteATV, Slow, and FoxHondaRider.

Actually I haven't really been in any fights for a while now.

I dont see how anyone can be a tool or classified as one over the net because a tool is someone who is getting used. You cant get used over the net I dont know maybe you made up a different meaning?

[Pipeless416]

holy crap people. stop ruining another thread! you should all just delete your sissy immature bickering. back on topic. :o :grr:

[cam19aro86]

I'm going to agree with you Pipeless. Brauap do you have any new pics, I'm interested to see how your rebuild is going. I started one this winter. When I started disassemby, I realized my camera was dead. Thus, no rebuild pics. I will be posting the afters though. I am almost finished I did black on black. Black fame with Maier black plastics. AC black nerfs and bumper. Also I put a 416 kit, stage 2 cam, and a new exhaust, etc. All it had before was a K&N and a jet kit so I am excited to take it out for it's maiden voyage,. Too bad its 15 degrees and snowing in Michigan, I can't wait til summer.

[storms400ex]

Originally posted by Honda#4
Any progress Colten? Dont worry about the stupid remarks man weather or not if you get a 450 its ok to have something to always look forward getting or to have big dreams it doesnt make you a stupid person just unique. Half of the time people are just jealous of other people because they can have something that the other person cant get so dont worry what people say. if i want something i buy it, i don't dream or are jealous of a rebuild or quad!!! the only dream i have is 2 women at once:D

[Brauap]

No pictures yet.. really havn't done all that much.. I got the wiring hanress on today..:ermm: I am also cleaning EVERYTHING verrry good with a tub of a mix of chemicals/cleaners and a tooth brush.. I even cleaned every crack of the air box.. under the lid, filter, in all the corners, in the air boot, ect. When someone comes to see this, I want to make them want to try to find some dirt on it.. :p

I may also trade it for another 450R (my dad's buddy has one (set up mildly for XC)) He doesn't know much about quads.. so he is basically looking for a good clean, good running quad. It is at a lot (in doors) of a car lot.. and all he does is trade.. so if I get mine looking 10x nicer than that (the 450 was deffently riddin hard) we may just swap titles and keys! But this may fall through like the other one, therefore I am not getting my hopes up at all.. I have to keep telling myself there are many 450R out there and in there area that just need to be found. Like I found this one because my dad is looking for a F-350 at the lot (of his buddies) and I by chance saw the tip of the front headlight through the glare of the glass.. and it turned out to be a pretty nice 04-05.. that's how I got my new nickname: Hawk Eye. :p

[racerdan24]

Hey if it comes through ,then thats awesome....If not...More fish ( Quads) out there to look for...Its a buyers market right now! COLTON GET SOME DAMN PROGRESS DONE WILL YA!!!! LOL Hey if you have a snow day you can get at least 10 hours of cleaning done right?

[racerdan24]

Oh and ........quit bowling with the little cuties and get that quad done!! LOL...had to bust on ya!

[trx250rider]

Originally posted by Honda#4
Really does it even matter anymore? not really. And I really beg to differ if yours looks any better than mine does no offense.


Originally posted by powermadd400ex
your a tool

dallas has one of the nicest quad on this site. if your so high and mighty go compete in the next qotm and see how many votes you get.

1st off i have a 250r not a 400ex..and im sure if i put it in the qotm i could beg all of my 250r friends to vote for me.it was obvious that this was the case.im not saying you have a piece of *****,its nice but wasnt on the same level as the other quads.they dont discuss changing rules for no reason.everyone knew it was rigged.and dmc-400ex, ive never seen a 15 yr old as smart as you.please do us a favor and shut ur mouth.we have enough riders in these forums that know what there talking about,we dont need a little "know it all" kid telling us what we need to do..oh and no this isnt foxhondarider

[brian76708]

Originally posted by trx250rider
1st off i have a 250r not a 400ex..and im sure if i put it in the qotm i could beg all of my 250r friends to vote for me.it was obvious that this was the case.im not saying you have a piece of *****,its nice but wasnt on the same level as the other quads.they dont discuss changing rules for no reason.everyone knew it was rigged.and dmc-400ex, ive never seen a 15 yr old as smart as you.please do us a favor and shut ur mouth.we have enough riders in these forums that know what there talking about,we dont need a little "know it all" kid telling us what we need to do..oh and no this isnt foxhondarider

all im hearing is wha wha wha i want my mommy cuz i lost qotm. and just to get it straight honda#4 never asked for any votes someone else posted that thread. now this is braupps build thread could you please leave you have nothing to do with this all you are doing is ruining this thread. your a waist of time please leave.

[scuzz]

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
Yeah, that was a while back. I used to be a "tool" when I first signed up and throughout most of the Hondamaster posts. I don't mind admitting it. I don't do that stuff anymore unless they truely are a tool. Like EliteATV, Slow, and FoxHondaRider.

Actually I haven't really been in any fights for a while now.


I have a great respect for people when they come to this conclusion and admit it.

Fox was banned for good reason.

[trx250rider]

lol.ive never been in qotm.i was just wondering if it was the same quad

[Brauap]

Originally posted by racerdan24
Oh and ........quit bowling with the little cuties and get that quad done!! LOL...had to bust on ya!

:devil: http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/eyebrows.gif http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/grin.gif http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/hitit.gif http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/grin.gif http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/eyebrows.gif :devil:
The dumb rebuild can wait! hah

And yea, we may have a snow day tomarrow.. where supposed to get an ice storm, then a snow storm.. we may get it, and thats what my bus diver told me (and shes a good friend) and usually when she says it, there will be one. But if there is a snow day, I will get about 10 hours in, your right.

oh btw.. people (trx250rider, brian76708, and storms400ex) stop ruining this, if you continue doing so, I promis I will report each and everyone of you.. 1 time for every post you make that isn't on topic or is rude. I mean sure, you can go off topic, but when you bash other people, I will not tollerate it for I have been bashed many many times. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by scuzz
I have a great respect for people when they come to this conclusion and admit it.

Fox was banned for good reason.

Word. Did anyone happen to catch his thread while it was up? He was banned for it, dropping F-bombs and posting pictures of the middle finger. Kinda funny to see someone purpously get banned.

[scuzz]

yep, saw the whole thing.


Karma.

[RaceinCircles]

Did you paint your shocks the same as your frame?

Originally posted by trx250rider
1st off i have a 250r not a 400ex..and im sure if i put it in the qotm i could beg all of my 250r friends to vote for me.it was obvious that this was the case.im not saying you have a piece of *****,its nice but wasnt on the same level as the other quads.they dont discuss changing rules for no reason.everyone knew it was rigged.and dmc-400ex, ive never seen a 15 yr old as smart as you.please do us a favor and shut ur mouth.we have enough riders in these forums that know what there talking about,we dont need a little "know it all" kid telling us what we need to do..oh and no this isnt foxhondarider

I wasn't even refering to you I was referring to FlewByU.

Damn chill out.

How am I a know it all? Because I try to help people in threads where they need help?:rolleyes:

All of you need to stop ruining brauaps threads.

[brian76708]

Originally posted by Brauap
:devil: http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/eyebrows.gif http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/grin.gif http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/hitit.gif http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/grin.gif http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/braaup/eyebrows.gif :devil:
The dumb rebuild can wait! hah

And yea, we may have a snow day tomarrow.. where supposed to get an ice storm, then a snow storm.. we may get it, and thats what my bus diver told me (and shes a good friend) and usually when she says it, there will be one. But if there is a snow day, I will get about 10 hours in, your right.

oh btw.. people (trx250rider, brian76708, and storms400ex) stop ruining this, if you continue doing so, I promis I will report each and everyone of you.. 1 time for every post you make that isn't on topic or is rude. I mean sure, you can go off topic, but when you bash other people, I will not tollerate it for I have been bashed many many times. :rolleyes:

i was just pointing out the obvious and i think this was my first time ever posting in this thread cuz i try to keep my mouth shut on your threads due to all the issues you seem to attract. was it really necessary to single me out there are much worse words by other people on this thread which are directed at you. know im ready to see pictures of your build and no more of this argument which is the reason i barley go on this forum any more because it gets so annoying. hope u get a snowday so i can see some progress.

Originally posted by racerdan24
Oh and ........quit bowling with the little cuties and get that quad done!! LOL...had to bust on ya!

haa I remember those pics.

But hey, I would be ditching my rebuild too:blah:

[racerdan24]

LOL...i agree...if i was his age and had the little honies he was hangin' with...i would probably do the same thing! I was a baddddddddddddddddd boy at his age......if ya know what i mean!

[Brauap]

Kinda update!

As I was re assembling the rear end, I got FED UP with the chrome paint because rattle can or spay can, the clear coat doesn't work on it therefor it chips and scratches easly.. but thats not all... it you even SLIGHTLY touch it at all, it smudges and dulls, so I am going to re-sandblast my swing-arm, axle, and oil tank and I am going to have them all professionally chromed. Bad thing is that I am going to have to buy all brand new bearings for the rear again, but I am fine with that. (When I go to remove them, they'll get damaged.)

[trx250rider]

sorry brauap..sorry for my post..i was simply wondering if that was the same quad..anyways,i havent bashed you once.ive been keeping up with your build and enjoyed all the updates but i guess me asking if that was indeed that quad was to much..

[Brauap]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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[Brauap]

Going out to the garage now! (7:30 A.M.) I am going to try to be out there for 12 hours today!! :devil:

[mooseracerX]

Originally posted by Brauap
Kinda update!

As I was re assembling the rear end, I got FED UP with the chrome paint because rattle can or spay can, the clear coat doesn't work on it therefor it chips and scratches easly.. but thats not all... it you even SLIGHTLY touch it at all, it smudges and dulls, so I am going to re-sandblast my swing-arm, axle, and oil tank and I am going to have them all professionally chromed. Bad thing is that I am going to have to buy all brand new bearings for the rear again, but I am fine with that. (When I go to remove them, they'll get damaged.)
Hey man don't know if you got them out yet but If you want to get them out w/o damaging them you can use a 18mm socket and it fits in there and you can pound them out w/o the being ruined.

[Brauap]

Originally posted by hondarider11
...

Please do edit your post.

Moose, are you talking about the axle bearings? Also, guys, I can't remember, but is the axle supposed to be like rammed with a malled for it to go in all the way, or is it supposed to like just slide in 100%?

btw.. Its not going back to stock stock (it will have an aftermarket black seat cover, razr rear tires, Carisle Badland front tires, and AC racing nerf bars)

[vinny casta]

i have some rotors if you still need one make an offer

[Brauap]

Originally posted by vinny casta
i have some rotors if you still need one make an offer

Nah. I already got one, but thanks anyways!! ;)

[cam19aro86]

What happened to 12 hours. Get off the computer and go get your 400 back in shape.