yes, the honda 450R was there. so was the yzf450, the kfx, and suzuki 400. it was a private factory research observation type thing that i was invited to down here in San Diego. i had a chance to look, feel touch and drool over the new honda. i whent ahead and checked out evrything! i can safely, and confidently say that honda did it again! it was very intresting having all 4 bikes there at the same time to compare and contrast them to eachother. after i finished the first questionare, a second interviewer came and asked me specific questions about the bikes, and also asked wich one i liked the best....... of course you know what i said. anybody have any specific questions about the externals youd like to know, just ask me.