The CVT world is under attack...WHY? Your thoughts...

[bb49]

I'm dis-appointed in the ama. they changed girls class to no cvt hows this fair. my daughter rides a cvt along with my son were going to do some nationals. What am I going to tell her your a girl but can't ride with them because u don't have a 12,000 dollars quad. this is total bs

[bb49]

I guess all the dads were crying last year in the girls class when they got smoked by the cvt's

[Logan #34's Dad]

What everyone needs to do is make contact with whoever is making these decisions and voice your concerns. Problem is, no one know who that is or how to contact them.

[oscarmayer]

^ every racing organization has a website. if you log onto it and search for a "contact us" section you usually can email them or the site admin and let them know via email and in a polite, diplomatic way know your concerns with rule changes and request an official rebuttal to the last minute changes. if enough people do this in an organization, they usually will listen and consider the change. but the key is being polite, posing a good argument and "just the facts". opinions should stay out of this sort of debate as it tends to make race organizers uncomfortable.

[LT80]

I'm dis-appointed in the ama. they changed girls class to no cvt hows this fair. my daughter rides a cvt along with my son were going to do some nationals. What am I going to tell her your a girl but can't ride with them because u don't have a 12,000 dollars quad. this is total bs

OK, one more time, it's the Promotors group that makes the rule changes.
Other than that, I agree.

[Ride1Rob]

I haven't done any nat.races yet but im yet to see a kid over 12 on a cvt. this is going to be my son third year on a cvt he's 9 next year we'll be shifting.going back to what I said before if your kid is a late starter and at a older age the CVT is the only thing that's going to help them SAFELY to develop racing skills.

Strange how beginner dirtbike kids start racing at late ages and do just fine developing race skills. A CVT is nothing more than a crutch at any age above 7. When we were racing quads I only saw one rider in the whole state of Florida under 10 on a shifter. Now that we run bikes I see loads of 7 yr olds on shifters. Race skills are developed through proper training not being on a non shifting machine.

[Logan #34's Dad]

Strange how beginner dirtbike kids start racing at late ages and do just fine developing race skills. A CVT is nothing more than a crutch at any age above 7. When we were racing quads I only saw one rider in the whole state of Florida under 10 on a shifter. Now that we run bikes I see loads of 7 yr olds on shifters. Race skills are developed through proper training not being on a non shifting machine.

I agree with what your saying...however, My issue is, IF the ATVPG begins to demand that we have to ride a shifter.. the sport will completely die IMO. To get into a shifter the initial cost is very high. A parent can start with a lower cost CVT from the local dealer and get his rider introduced to racing on it...maybe build it as he goes until he believes his rider is ready for a modified machine.. that system has worked well so why mess with it.

As far as comparing bikes to quads...If the bike world had a CVT type system that ran how these current quad cvt's do...you can bet your butt they'd be on them. Also, bikes have the early progression of auto Cobra's to shifters...and IF your not on the shifter you'll get smoked SO you have to move to a shifter by design. Our system is a little different and it has worked so why mess with it... It's my opinion that the more they get rid of CVT's the more the sport will fail. I know that in my area...kids on CVT's are more common than kids on shifters. Dad's slowly build the CVT up as Junior's skill develops and because DAD wants to beat Lil Johnny...before ya know it, you have a ton of money in the CVT and want them on it as long as possible.

[LT80]

"Race skills are developed through proper training not being on a non shifting machine"
A correct statement for sure!

"A CVT is nothing more than a crutch at any age above 7".
A well needed crutch for the family man.

"I only saw one rider in the whole state of Florida under 10 on a shifter"
Makes ya think they do need CVT's eh.

"Now that we run bikes I see loads of 7 yr olds on shifters."
You're right, bikes have factory options for shifting bikes. Mini quads non. Well, except for the Yamaha 125.

[stevo7706]

I would imagine if the bike world wanted CVT's they would have CVT's. Doesn't seem like a major engineering feat to overcome. I guess the kids don't want CVT's, what do you think?

[josborn]

Just FYI, I have been getting a few parents asking about rekluse clutches for their kids 65cc bikes here in Ohio, meaning whether they are legal in the OMA (omxa.net). I know it's not the same as a cvt transmission setup, but I see vet guys getting real interested in these semi auto clutches for bikes, I think it will trickle down to the kids too. Maybe this would be middle ground?