The CVT world is under attack...WHY? Your thoughts...

[jake55]

really doesn't matter if an individual spent 8k or 180k. fact of the matter is this...... in 70cvt for 2013, the 44 and the 55 could have switched bikes and the results would have been the same. money or not, that 44 is just crazy fast, it's the rider more than the motor in my opinion.

[jay-r]

Keith J, Ktm 50s and cobra 50s are not cvts. They are single speeds. The single speeds work well on the little bikes. The same setup on a heavy mini quad requires more maintenance than on a bike that weighs less than half as much. There are less variables to tune than a cvt. But, quite limited by the single speed transmission vs Continuously Variable Transmision.

All forms of racing are expensive. The cost of the racing is only determined by the size of your bank account and level of addiction. Quad racing will always cost alot more than dirt bikes as long as there are no race ready production quads.

Money can't buy championships. But, there is a strong correlation in the mini quad world.

[stevo7706]

Damm!...$10,000 for a bag of bolts. How much were the NUTS!

[jay-r]

There is one extra zero in that figure. The Baird's put together a titanium bolt kit that is $1000 per quad. That is off the shelf bolts. There is alot of custom titanium work on their quads also.

[Keith J]

really doesn't matter if an individual spent 8k or 180k. fact of the matter is this...... in 70cvt for 2013, the 44 and the 55 could have switched bikes and the results would have been the same. money or not, that 44 is just crazy fast, it's the rider more than the motor in my opinion.

If you are referring to the 44 being the younger Ford kid, then yes, I completely agree, he is goofy fast..haha

All i was saying was that I can see how a person could spend $85K in a year competing at the national level. Especially if you had to have two different bikes..The Fords had at least 4...
I knew the Cobra's were SS motors, but I was mistaken about the little KTM's, thanks for the correction!

Money can get you out front for sure and make it easier to stay there. The kid matters a lot, but having more HP gives more of a margin for error in the riding.


I really don't know what the point is I am trying to make anymore....hahaha I finished my daughters bike!! well, close

[edwardsp&b]

really doesn't matter if an individual spent 8k or 180k. fact of the matter is this...... in 70cvt for 2013, the 44 and the 55 could have switched bikes and the results would have been the same. money or not, that 44 is just crazy fast, it's the rider more than the motor in my opinion.

I agree Rob. Im not talking trash about Ford. Make sure you understand that. I don't blame him for what he spends on his kids racing, if I had it like that I would do exactly the same.

I wasn't there the last year or so, but Ive ran against them and Bryce is an excellent rider. Bost is also an excellent rider who could hang with them with the right setup. And your son has turned into a great rider too. Jake has made tons of improvements when I saw yall last year from when yall first showed up to a National a few years back!!

BOTTOM LINE and the point I was trying to make earlier is this.......The holeshot is the most important part of the race. If you don't have your motor built to the hilt and jetting on the mark you will be a few lengths behind the leader and they will not be caught. Ive seen my son do it, Ive had Bassani do it to us more times than I can remember. Why did Bassani win all those races a few years back??? For one DJ was a great rider, and Don was an even better mechanic/tuner. If you don't have the motor to be really close to the front after turn one, the race is over.
Bryan

[jake55]

also keep in mind, at Balance last year, 70cvt moto 1, a so called "out dated" rt motor took second on the hole shot, I honestly believe that rider had it but lifted at the last second, again, it's rider more than motor. all the hp in the world will not help if the rider does not use it.

[hensonfamfun]

I agree Rob. Im not talking trash about Ford. Make sure you understand that. I don't blame him for what he spends on his kids racing, if I had it like that I would do exactly the same.

I wasn't there the last year or so, but Ive ran against them and Bryce is an excellent rider. Bost is also an excellent rider who could hang with them with the right setup. And your son has turned into a great rider too. Jake has made tons of improvements when I saw yall last year from when yall first showed up to a National a few years back!!

BOTTOM LINE and the point I was trying to make earlier is this.......The holeshot is the most important part of the race. If you don't have your motor built to the hilt and jetting on the mark you will be a few lengths behind the leader and they will not be caught. Ive seen my son do it, Ive had Bassani do it to us more times than I can remember. Why did Bassani win all those races a few years back??? For one DJ was a great rider, and Don was an even better mechanic/tuner. If you don't have the motor to be really close to the front after turn one, the race is over.
Bryan

Personally I'm tired of this internet talking and debate! Thanks Rocky for the thread!! Lets have this discussion in less than a month while the kids are running around playing with their buddies they haven't seen in 7 months, burgers are on the grill, quads are washed, cold one in hands, (yes plural) and the fragrance of racing fuel fills the air at Aonia!!! Man I miss it like a fat kid misses cake!!! First round on Visnic...........guess you need to budget for 86k now Visnic!!!!!

[jake55]

mr. Henson...............just cause I bring a very large cooler filled to the point the lid wont close tight, doesn't mean i'll share. I'm kinda stingy on some things.

[jake55]

Personally I'm tired of this internet talking and debate! Thanks Rocky for the thread!! Lets have this discussion in less than a month while the kids are running around playing with their buddies they haven't seen in 7 months, burgers are on the grill, quads are washed, cold one in hands, (yes plural) and the fragrance of racing fuel fills the air at Aonia!!! Man I miss it like a fat kid misses cake!!! First round on Visnic...........guess you need to budget for 86k now Visnic!!!!!

the more I think about this, Henson, your correct. first round is on me, no problem what so ever!!!!! i'll have my cooler at your trailer all weekend, that way everyone who comes over for you to wash their quad and fix them a big ol' burger can have something cold to drink while they wait, I figure the line will be as long as the line at sign up. thanks Henson.