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  1. #1
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    Hard to start.

    I bought my 2003 400EX last summer. This is my 1st bike so I'm new to everything about it.
    Started my mods with a K&N Filter & then a WB Series E slip-on.
    After installing the slip-on I noticed a HUGE difference in power! Very pleased!
    However, when cold starting it now (after installing slip-on), it seems to run very rough, cutting out almost dying. Have to feather the throttle to keep it running for a few minutes before it can be left alone. Now, once it is warm it runs like a champ and like I said before the power is outstanding!!
    Did nothing to the jetting, left it stock.
    Do I have a problem with the cold start or is this typical?
    2004 450 "R"
    HRC Kit
    Aluminium air box
    K&N Filter
    PRM skid plate, full frame plate, 6 pack rack

    2003 400EX
    Aluminium air box
    K&N Filter
    PRM Skid plate, 6 pk rk
    WB E series slip on
    160 main / 40 pilot /3-1/2 turns air mix screw.
    W/B Rev limiter

    2003 300EX
    K&N Filter
    PRM skid plate, 6 pk rk.
    W/B Slip on

    2003 250 EX
    K&N Filter
    PRM Skid plate, 6 pk rk.
    W/B Slip on

    2003 TRX 90
    W/B Slip on
    K&N Filter
    Compression kit

    2004 26' Gear Box

    He who dies with the most toys...WINS!


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  2. #2
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    typical, the EX is cold blooded

  3. #3
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    switch to a #42 pilot jet... I have the same setup except for the K & N I have a Uni... with the e-series slip on... I had the same trouble with cold starts.... I put a #42 pilot jet in... and now it starts sooooooooooooooooooo much easier....
    2001 Honda 400EX
    Polished White Brothers e-series slip-on
    White Brothers Ebrake block off
    White Brothers bumper /w screen
    White Brothers Ceet Gripper Seat cover
    No air box cover
    Uni Air Filter
    #42 Pilot jet
    MSR Shorty clutch lever
    Clear coated plastic
    Oury Grips
    AC Racing Full Skid Plate
    DG Nerf Bars
    Holeshot XCT 22" rear
    Renthal CR bend (not sure which)
    14 tooth front sprocket

    The wifes: 2001 Yamaha Warrior (White and black) all stock except for PRM swingarm skidplate.

    The Boys: 2001 Yamaha TT-R 125L
    FMF Powercore IV - SOLD

    AIM: gimpbzkt400ex
    Yahoo: gimpbzkt400ex
    MSN: gimpbzkt400ex

  4. #4
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    yep, i would put in a 40 or 42 pilot jet. also, if your using stock jetting you might want to put in around a 155 or so mainjet.
    2005 450r

    *sold* 2001 400ex

    "If you think you can, you can. If you think you can't, your right."

    "A leader will take you where you want to go. A great leader will not necessarily take you where you want to go but where you ought to be."

    "If you want to do something, you will find a way; if you don't, you'll find and excuse!"

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  5. #5
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    Originally posted by gimpbzkt400ex
    switch to a #42 pilot jet... I have the same setup except for the K & N I have a Uni... with the e-series slip on... I had the same trouble with cold starts.... I put a #42 pilot jet in... and now it starts sooooooooooooooooooo much easier....
    OK so by changing to a 42 pilot it will solve my starting problems.
    Will it change anything else?
    2004 450 "R"
    HRC Kit
    Aluminium air box
    K&N Filter
    PRM skid plate, full frame plate, 6 pack rack

    2003 400EX
    Aluminium air box
    K&N Filter
    PRM Skid plate, 6 pk rk
    WB E series slip on
    160 main / 40 pilot /3-1/2 turns air mix screw.
    W/B Rev limiter

    2003 300EX
    K&N Filter
    PRM skid plate, 6 pk rk.
    W/B Slip on

    2003 250 EX
    K&N Filter
    PRM Skid plate, 6 pk rk.
    W/B Slip on

    2003 TRX 90
    W/B Slip on
    K&N Filter
    Compression kit

    2004 26' Gear Box

    He who dies with the most toys...WINS!


    Rebar is life...live it!!

  6. #6
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    Originally posted by Rickyrebar
    OK so by changing to a 42 pilot it will solve my starting problems.
    Will it change anything else?

    it should make starting the bike easier. however, even with that pilot in my bike is somewhat tempermental in the cold weather. i can usually get it started without a problem though.
    2005 450r

    *sold* 2001 400ex

    "If you think you can, you can. If you think you can't, your right."

    "A leader will take you where you want to go. A great leader will not necessarily take you where you want to go but where you ought to be."

    "If you want to do something, you will find a way; if you don't, you'll find and excuse!"

    "Its not aptitude but attitude that determines your altitude."

  7. #7
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    Location
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    Originally posted by Rickyrebar
    OK so by changing to a 42 pilot it will solve my starting problems.
    Will it change anything else?

    I noticed a little low - mid power increase...
    2001 Honda 400EX
    Polished White Brothers e-series slip-on
    White Brothers Ebrake block off
    White Brothers bumper /w screen
    White Brothers Ceet Gripper Seat cover
    No air box cover
    Uni Air Filter
    #42 Pilot jet
    MSR Shorty clutch lever
    Clear coated plastic
    Oury Grips
    AC Racing Full Skid Plate
    DG Nerf Bars
    Holeshot XCT 22" rear
    Renthal CR bend (not sure which)
    14 tooth front sprocket

    The wifes: 2001 Yamaha Warrior (White and black) all stock except for PRM swingarm skidplate.

    The Boys: 2001 Yamaha TT-R 125L
    FMF Powercore IV - SOLD

    AIM: gimpbzkt400ex
    Yahoo: gimpbzkt400ex
    MSN: gimpbzkt400ex

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