i know there are a lot of rocket sciencest on these forums but i read these things cause i usually get some good info about things that interest me but the one topic that i have been long awating is this the bike for me, no i didnt have to sell anything to pay for my new on but i have gave my dealer the money. do i dont have to have a new bike cause the two i have have about every thing i can bolt on them. so tuesday i called out to duncan racing we buy parts for them at the local honda dealer and loren wasnt in but i got to talk to leonard, of coarse i ask him what was his opion about the yamaha and the honda he felt like that the yfz was a better bike in stock form but with small work the honda was as good but they felt like honda bike were more durable and would be a better unit. now i cant buy a new bike every year but i do know that my hondas kick a** well that my 2 dollars worth but people need not the judge the 25 wheels vs the quads and untill the 450R is released we dont know crap