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    What setup for harescrambles?? $800 budget

    I recently raced my first harescramble and motor wise i think im fine, the problem i had is my 400 beat the crap out of me so i want to do some things, first off my left wrist was killing me from squeezing the clutch lever next was my arms was so fatigued i could hardly even finish. I know diet and excersise will help but what are some other things i could do to bike on $800 Dollar budget. Please let me know brands and where i can purchase whatever items you suggest and maybe even prices if you know them.
    2007 HONDA 400 EX
    MAXXIS RAZR TIRES
    SCOTT GRIPS
    PRO FLO K&N INTAKE KIT
    ROCK PRO NERF BARS
    MOTOWORKS SR4 SLIP ON
    KEIHIN 152 MAIN JET
    KEIHIN 42 PILOT JET
    LUCAS OIL

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    ccp stabilizer
    redone 450r shocks or perhaps some KFX/YFZ shocks (you need to trim the eyelet to fit the frame but they are rather soft vs the honda 450 shocks)
    06+ 450r swingarm (need entire setup)
    If it's stupid, and it works, it isn't stupid. - Murphy's Law
    2000 426EX,sold
    2004 450R WIP
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    CJM the 450R SwingArm bolts right in place?
    and does it add more lenght? or is the geometry of its linkage better suspension?
    2001 Honda 400ex
    11:1 Namura Stock Bore Piston
    Stock Head
    Stock Cylinder
    Stock Cam (HotCam stage2 in Hands, Waiting for Better Exaust System)
    Stock Crank
    400ex Carb with 42 Pilot and 160 Main (@sea level)
    Front Sprocket 15 (Going 14 next)
    Rear Sprocket 38
    Honda 450R Exaust (still as everything in it)
    Uni Air Filter
    Stock Airbox no Holes
    Front YFZ Brake Calipers
    Rear Trx450R Brake System

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    The 450R swingarm bolts right in place. You have to transfer all the parts (linkage, shock, bearing carrier, brake) from your EX swinger into the 450R swingarm. It is about 1.5" longer than the stock EX swingarm. The only things that you will need are a longer chain and chain slider for a 450R. Like I said, everything else will transfer over without issues.

    It basically adds more stability to the quad and helps to keep the front end down.
    99 416EX
    12.5:1, XR400R cam, Ported, FMF Powerbomb header/White Bros. E-Series Slip-on, Hinson clutch, KN/open lid, 40mm FCR tuned for E85, KFX450R front shocks, Works Ultracross Rear.
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    Get an AOF EZ pull clutch lever, Might help as the day gets longer and you can adjust it to suit. Different set of bars could help. Drop a pound or two of pressure in your tires to absorb more, But you will have to play with #'s so you don't roll a bead.

    Sounds like and you mentioned you were gripping for dear life and trying to pinch the bars shut, Let the machine do the work and grip just enough. Use your body weight to transfer and stay loose. The 450r swinger sounds like a good swap and worth while.

    Good luck either way, The more seat time and trail time you get the better off as well.

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    Everything everyone is saying is good. I will mention the 400 link on the 450 swinger isn't a good idea. The '06+ 450 have a different shock geometry from the '04-'05s and your suspension won't react like it should. The '04-'05s have the same geometry as the 400, so if you have your rear shock setup for you with the 400 link it won't change when you install it with an '04-'05 link. Also when dropping tire pressure don't go too low or you can also bend rims from taking hard impacts. I wouldn't go below 3 pounds in any tire, that being said I run about 3.5 to 4.5 in mine. Plenty of give so your tire can form to the terrain, grip and take some of impact but still enough to not roll a bead or flatten on a hard impact.
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    2006 450R (MX/Dune/QFMX Machine)
    2005 407EX (XC, GNCC, Harescramble Machine, Not much left that's stock, PICS)

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