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  1. #1
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    I give up

    I just took my 416 out. I was still breaking it in and the rod broke. I need a new engine. Anybody selling one?? Thanks, Anthony
    Last edited by la400ex; 02-18-2003 at 08:22 AM.
    04 450r-Rossier Pipe.

    Past Rides:
    98 Blaster
    99 400ex
    88 250r

    2001 RC Dodge Dakota...4.7 V8..5 speed...3.92 LSD...flowmaster exhaust....Intense performance Intake....18in American Racing Maxim rims....Bell tech 2/4 drop

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    What compression were you running and what type of piston?
    2001 Duncan Racing National 440ex
    Power Cylinder 4000 12:1 JE
    web cam 463/9i, port & polish, 3 angle valve job, hardend rockers, titanium valve springs.
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    10.8:1 ross. Not enough compression to throw a rod.
    04 450r-Rossier Pipe.

    Past Rides:
    98 Blaster
    99 400ex
    88 250r

    2001 RC Dodge Dakota...4.7 V8..5 speed...3.92 LSD...flowmaster exhaust....Intense performance Intake....18in American Racing Maxim rims....Bell tech 2/4 drop

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    you had to have some kind of manufacturer problem with the rod. Check with your honda dealer for a warranty.
    2001 Duncan Racing National 440ex
    Power Cylinder 4000 12:1 JE
    web cam 463/9i, port & polish, 3 angle valve job, hardend rockers, titanium valve springs.
    Duncan Racing Fat Boy 4 Exhaust
    1mm oversized blackdiamond intake and exhaust valves
    15 point gusseted frame powder coated candy apple red
    Doug Eichner Signature Series Edelbrock Carb
    Procom CDI ignition
    Hinson Basket, Removable Side Case
    Sparks 8 plate clutch
    Custom graphics and seat cover
    Custom air intake with K&n Filter
    everything is polished and billet
    Roll Design chrome swing arm
    Elka dual rate ssd with LT linkage
    TCS ZPS, douglas ultimate billet beadlock wheels with Maxxis Razr's
    Roll +1.5" chrome anti vibe stem with Tag T-2 oversized bars cr hi bend
    Herrmann arms Trail Tech HID Lights w/ custom billet mount (for the dunes)
    Overized UM vented oil tank FST oil cooler kit and even more

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    I dont know what it was. I might just save and save and save and buy a yz 426 motor to put in it. It might be a year before that happens but thats what I want to do. Im gonna take some picks tomorrow. Its depressing. Cracked the mount for the starter, and has a huge hole in the top of the cases. I got home and we had it tore down in a little over an hour. I had to see what happened.
    04 450r-Rossier Pipe.

    Past Rides:
    98 Blaster
    99 400ex
    88 250r

    2001 RC Dodge Dakota...4.7 V8..5 speed...3.92 LSD...flowmaster exhaust....Intense performance Intake....18in American Racing Maxim rims....Bell tech 2/4 drop

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    what is left of the engine that can be reused?
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    That really sucks man.Im putting in the same thing you have.I hope i dont have any problems.Did you check to see if there was any play in the rod while it was apart?
    00 400 ex
    far from stock.

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    You shouldnt have any problems. A lot of people run that setup with either a ross or a je piston. You will love it.

    The head is good, just needs new valves. The valve cover is good. The right case where the clutch is, is good. I dont know about the botton end. I know i would need a new rod but i dont know if the crank is bent or anything. I dont know if it would be worth it to try to rebuild the whole thing. I would need new cases, probably a lot of parts in the bottom end, a new cylinder, new piston, new rod and that might be it. Man, im depressed.
    04 450r-Rossier Pipe.

    Past Rides:
    98 Blaster
    99 400ex
    88 250r

    2001 RC Dodge Dakota...4.7 V8..5 speed...3.92 LSD...flowmaster exhaust....Intense performance Intake....18in American Racing Maxim rims....Bell tech 2/4 drop

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    well maybe your best bet is to buy a whole engine. that way you'll have extra parts. I sold mine for around $700. look around on ebay and stuff. Hey man sorry to hear it. but don't worry about it. chit happens. I felt the same way every time i blew my 250r. But remmebr when you make internal motor mods theres always a risk
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    I did the same thing to my CR500R. My bottom end rod bearings blew apart, and the rod busted out the bottom of the casses, in the middle of a race no less. Anyway after pricing all the parts i ended up buying a new crank, same cost as having my old one rebuilt. The case halfs I gave to my neighbor, a profesional welder. He ground out all the bad aluminum and build it back up with weld bead. When I got them back, I used a di-grinder to clean them up, and then used a diamond router bit on a drill press to machine the case meeting edges. I finshed them up with valve lapping compound on a glass surface to get them realy smooth. I then reassembled as if the were brand new parts, I did replace a few bearings and seals. It worked out realy well. I used the bike for another 2 years befor i sold it. It has been four years since this happened with no proublems. I did the same thing to my buddies ATC250R as well. Totla cost was around $400.

    Your mottor might be worth fixing, give you a chance to rebuild your crank with a stronger rod. Or if not I might be interested in buying your remains of an engine. Sorry to hear about your bad luck. I know when my engine let go it was one of the worst feelings.
    2005 TRX450R (racer)
    2000 400EX (retired)
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