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    Front end HELP !!!

    Guys ,

    I ordered some Hermann racing +2 A-ARMS , but I don't get the ball joint thing with caster/camber .Could you guys give some advise before I screw everything up and have to make it loose again ...

    Do the ball joints be really come to the metal or do they have a few threads left ?

    Tnx

    Kenny
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    huh?
    I know your from belgium so its hard to explain on your behalf.

    I think your trying to get help on the CAMBER for the tires?

    is there any way you can post pics to show this threading problem?
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    set your top ball joint in all the way till it bottoms out and tighten it down. on the bottom ball joint you want to adjust it out some so the top of your tires tilt in some( this is called negative camber). it come down to what kind terrain you ride. heres a link to lonestar racings website. i hope it help. if you have anymore questions let me know and i'll try my best to answer them.

    http://www.lsracing.com/installguides.php?step=4&igid=5

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    guy's I took pics

    here they are
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    now in close up
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    and one more
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    now my question is , how far must the upper and lower balljoint be sticking out .You see my upper is a thread of 6-7 sticking out .May it ?

    tnx for your time
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    Correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't you want the just far enough out to set up the angles you want?! If they are sticking out too far, that puts extra strees on the threaded part.

    MX#132 Sounds like he's get the idea.

    Alse remember, the camber angle is going to be slightly different once the quad is on the ground with weight on it. The camber angle does change a little through the suspension travel.
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    like they said screw the top ball joints all the way in.

    and the bottom one.

    once they are all the way in, your suppose to count the turns you turn the ball joints out.

    I would say to call up herrmann and ask him what he reccomends for ball joint set up.

    he might say somethin like 4 turns out on top and one turn out on the bottom.

    i think the first thing you want to try is turning both top and bottom ball joints in all the way and see what the tire stance is from there.(turn the ball joints in, put the wheels on and then sit the bike on the ground and take a good look at the camber)

    If you want to try that please take a picture of it and post it. that would be a good starting basis for us to help you.(we will then know the ball joints are all the way in and will be able to help you set it up)

    Also, when you turn all the ball joints all the way in double check each side by measurung the end of the a-arm (where the ball joint goes into)to the end of the ball joint.
    There may be slight discrepancies with how far in the ball joint goes in from one side to the other.

    i wouldnt ride the bike with the way you have the ball joints set up now. try what I said and get back to us
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    it should sorta look like this when its set up right
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    Laeger flip top protrax, Axis LT Shocks, Dominator +4 race axle , BWR 330 motor,Keihn 39mm pwk, 178 main, 52 pilot, DGH needle middle clip, Curtis Sparks TT Pipe& Silencer,CFM aluminum airbox, K&N Filter, 98 CR250 Boysen Rad Valve (rad 02b) W/spacer plate,Ricky Stator 200watt,Ricky Stator Rectifier, Ricky Stator Lightened Flywheel,Ricky Stator Billet Lights 200watt, Amsoil Dominator and C12 @ 50:1
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