I went to my my buddys dealership yesterday and saw them. he had a one 450 and one 525. I'll start off by saying that i'm a honda guy but these things are nice thay sit real low, low profile seat, sticky tires all around and should have plenty of power. they also came with a headlight delete. he has to prep them but they should be on the floor today. he said the prices should be just under 11,000 for 450 and just a little over 11,000 for the 525. all in all it looks like it.s going to be a real badass quad.