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  1. #31
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    6 in one year, wow!! i had the cast on for 3 months, and a brace for a month. i've had the brace off for a month now and have been riddin my 300ex to get back into shape. I'm planning on racing a points race in january with 4 tracks and 12 races. The doc said i broke the worse bone i possibily could in my wrist (neuvicular bone, i think). My mom (ex ray tech) said it would be a year before my wrist felt normal. You need to get one of the wristresters or something!!! I plan on goin to the track in (hopefully) a month if my wrist isnt still to weak. If i were you i would NOT do chrome! My swingarm, kick starter, shifter, and brake pedal have either fully peeled or is starting to peel! Get powdercoating or polish! I'm hopeing my A-arms wont peel, i HATE chrome! But powdercoating & polishing are the only way to go! chroming something on a quad is like painting your plastic! At first it looks AWESOME, then It peels in sheets and looks SOOO UGLY! the you have to take the whole thing apart again and do it over with powdercoating or polishing. CHROME IS CRAP
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  2. #32
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    chrome also weakens the metal of the chrome part

  3. #33
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    I guess if you take your parts to jackleg and associates chroming company in the back of somebodies garage that might be the case. But my buddy that will be doing mine, strips things down,,blasts them,,,polishes,,does a good job and takes his time but I guess that's the benefit of having a friend do it and not somebody that you don't know,,plus if it peels off or has problems He'll just do it again,,he's done a ton of stuff on his dirtbike and it looks great and has held up for a long time.

    And how does chroming hurt metal???

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    ok here is where you need to go to get all the reinfocemment parts for the frame gusseting http://<a href="http://www.timmyboyd...esigns.com</a>

    Timmy Boy's gusset kit for TRX frame. Its $50 shipped
    Comes with I think 6 gusset's for different areas of the frame and a couple of chrome molly tubes for top by steering stem loop.

    ill be ordering it soon, as I cracked my frame by my left foot peg :/
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    Originally posted by Rico
    I guess if you take your parts to jackleg and associates chroming company in the back of somebodies garage that might be the case. But my buddy that will be doing mine, strips things down,,blasts them,,,polishes,,does a good job and takes his time but I guess that's the benefit of having a friend do it and not somebody that you don't know,,plus if it peels off or has problems He'll just do it again,,he's done a ton of stuff on his dirtbike and it looks great and has held up for a long time.

    And how does chroming hurt metal???
    it weakens it because of the elictrical currents ran through the chemical crap the put the pieces in to get the nickle stuff to stick

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    I've always heard chroming something will strengthen it not make it weaker..

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    nope.....Chroming parts, no matter how important they are to safe operation of the vehicle, appears to run rampant among people who place a priority on ribbons and glitz. The show scene is a great place to exhibit your rig and your craftsmanship, but chrome shocks, shock mounts, shackles, motor parts and similar hardware can be weakened by chroming. Here is some information to educate you about the process of chroming and ways to avoid hydrogen embrittlement.

    Most people think of chrome as the bright shiny stuff on bumpers. This is not chrome, however, it is nickel. The chrome is like a clear coat over paint to keep the nickel from turning color. It is the chroming process we are concerned with. In an oversimplified explanation of how plating works, the process goes like this: The parts will go into consecutive tanks or baths of alkaline, water, acid, then water. Electrical current travels through a titanium basket filled with both the part and either a copper or nickel ingot.

    Let's say you insist on chroming a shock. The part to be chromed must be clean and free of rust and excess weld slag and be thoroughly polished. The shock then receives a coat of copper. Copper will fill small scratches and pits as well as adhere the nickel to the part. After the copper-coated shock is buffed, it goes through the baths again. Now the shock is coated with nickel - a thicker coating means longer time in the coating tank. The shock is buffed again, then the whole process is repeated with the final coat of chrome; the clear coat. Again the chrome plating and polishing process will be repeated.

    But shocks contain oil that needs to stay cool and the shock shaft has a seal to keep the oil inside. The acid affects the seal and the copper, nickel, and chroming process retains heat the shock must disperse in order to perform. Chrome shocks look good if you do not expect them to perform or last.

    The big problem is hydrogen embrittlement Chroming such parts as shock mounts and spring shackles is asking for potential trouble. Hydrogen embrittlement in high-strength steels has the most devastating effect due to the catastrophic nature of the fractures when they occur. Sources attributed to hydrogen embrittlement have been encountered in the manufacture of steel, in processing of parts (chroming) and in welding, etc. This hydrogen embrittlement is like the bends for metal. Welding, especially electrowelding, initiates the problem and an electrolytic plating bath such as chroming, compounds it.

    Now what can we do about this destructive effect? On anything except a shock, bake the part. Yes! Bake it. There is an embrittlement relief procedure table which ranges from a half hour at 500 degrees to 23 hours at 325 degrees. You can bake the part yourself to relieve embrittlement after it is chromed, but ask the folks at the plating shop for the proper tables. Do not do this with a shock as it will blow up.

    Our purpose here is to educate you on the pitfalls of electroplating components for the sake of appearance. Speak to your plating shop about options available to you that won't jeopardize part performance or personal safety.

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    Were did you get that info from,,,not that it's not true I'd just like to know the source so I can copy it and give it to my buddy..thanks

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    i just wrote that on my own knowledge,, no heres the link, i found it yesterday,,,,,,im not getting very much chroming done, but not becasue of this, more of the price tag, i only want to spend about 200 for for chroming, and i called someone who said it be around 100 for the case covers, then more for the brake pedal, footpegs and mounts




    http://www.findarticles.com/cf_offrd.../article.jhtml

  10. #40
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    not sure but can aluminum be chromed...i know the side cases are aluminum and i think the front motor mounts are too...i think they have to be polished

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