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    Post all kinds of 300EX info!

    i know me and others have answered many of the same questions over a short period of time, so i figured if there is one reference chart with a majority of 300ex frequently asked questions, in theory this could save everyone some time, i will keep adding to the list feel free to add something useful!

    ok, here we go remember this all 300ex info, some corresponds to the 250x some doesn't.


    stock valve lash =.004
    Stock jetting = 122 main , 120 main (high alttitude), 38 pilot, stock needle position - 3rd groove
    Wheel offsets - front = 4/144 rear =4/110
    Stock gearing = 13 / 38
    stock spark plug # - DR8ES-L

    stock carb 32mm keihin with accelerator pump.

    Ignition: CD with electronic advance
    (300ex CDI will not work on 250x)

    Ground Clearance : 4.6 in. (stock)

    Will 400ex a-arms work?
    yes, you will need a-arms, tie rods, and 400ex length shocks (16.25), and a shock relocator bracket, 400ex spindles are not neccessary but are an improvement with this set-up,and yes stock brakelines will stretch far enough.

    will a 400ex steering stem work?
    yes, stops on bottom need cut off beacuse there 180* off, and the little washer about 3/4 will need removed, it is roughly 1'' longer

    will a 400ex carb work?
    yes, i recomend it for engines that have atleast the basic mods, such as pipe. filter, ect.. stock boots will stretch, all you need to do is rejet, and i recomend a 42 pilot jet

    Hardweld rockers are only necessary for a hard weld cam -
    EX. web cam, billet cams such as hot cams do not require hard weld rockers, they will actually cause damage to your cam

    What is max. compression piston on 93 octane. - 11:1
    any thing over is pushing and detonation could result.

    engine idle speed = 1,400 +/- 100 rpm
    stock pilot screw setting = 2 1/4 out from closed

    engine compression with stock piston - 171 - 200 PSI

    engine oil capacity -
    oil change only - 1.6 quarts
    oil and filter change - 1.7 quarts
    totally engine dissambly - 2.11 quarts

    *if you run a oil cooler about 2 quarts even on basic oil and filter change*

    Suspension
    Front: Independent double-wishbone with dual hydraulic shocks, 5-position spring-preload adjustability; 7.1 in. travel
    Rear: Swingarm with single shock, 5-position spring-preload adjustability; 7.9 in. travel

    Fuel Capacity- 2.2 gallons, with a .5-gallon reserve

    chain free play - 1 3/4 in. at most

    heres a gearing calculator to show how variables such as rev-limit, tire size and gearing affect speed
    gearing calculator

    here is the link from the tech section on how to rig your reverse set-up, used when you use a aftermarket clutch lever & perch or if you are just tired of hurting yourself when you try to engage reverse
    reverse bypass

    quad clicks when start botton is engaged -
    its can usually be narrowed down to 2 things, assuming your battery has a proper charge, and it putting out correct voltage at (100% it should be reading about 13 volts)
    now, its either your solenoid, or contact brushes in your starter

    Common Rear end Swaps:
    A 01 raptor rear shock will work but they are famous for blowing bladders on the 300ex

    a 450R swingarm will also work, how ever this set-up requires tabs to be welded or bolted to the frame to accept the linkage. You WILL have to use a 250R rear shock, linkage is up to you, the 250r or the 450r linkage will work, carrier and axle, and rear brakeline will also be needed. the swingarm is around 3 inches longer
    the 350x rear end will also work
    same as 250r
    more info will be added by me constantly,, don't be shy feel free to add anything you think would be useful

    QUAD BOGS WHEN IN WATER?
    alot of times it is your carb vent tube. the one that hangs down behind the motor. the problem is this tube gets submerged, you can either trim the tube shorter, or put a T splittler on it and add a different length hose.
    Country Boy Can Survive

    -97 F150-

    400EX frame up build in the future.

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    Re: all kinds of 300EX info!

    Originally posted by honda300EXtreme


    Will 400ex a-arms work?
    yes, you will need a-arms, tie rods, and 400ex length shocks (16.25), 400ex spindles are not neccessary but are an improvement with this set-up,

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    you will also need a shock relocator with the 400ex a arms and shocks
    2000 400ex stock for now


    2001 XR100R stock

    "if your not scared your not going fast enough!"

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    ^ good call cody, i knew i was forgetting something
    Country Boy Can Survive

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    400EX frame up build in the future.

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    not a problem mike great thread
    2000 400ex stock for now


    2001 XR100R stock

    "if your not scared your not going fast enough!"

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    What is max. compression piston on 93 octane. - 11:1
    This is debateable.engine set ups along with location are just a few of the variables to add to this.Did i mention cam as well?Valve overlap plays a huge factor in ACTUAL compression.Im at around 12 to 1 with my 385ex and i have never ran anything more than 93 oct.Thats almost $3.50 a gallon and that enough let alone paying for race gas.Of course the higher the compression the more strain it puts on the bottom end so i shoot for a happy medium
    426ex,lt250r banshee and kfx700 v force,yz250 mx bike

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    i agress 100% that there are too many variables with particular engine set-ups,

    saying 11:1 is the highest you can go is a broad statement, but on the other hand is a good general rule of thumb.

    im trying not to get technical in this thread,, its just used to answer a bunch of the basics to save me and your self some time,
    Country Boy Can Survive

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    400EX frame up build in the future.

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    Maybe its just the car nut in me, but I find it easier to understand the difference in our gearing if we use a ratio rather than the sprocket sizes. Treating this the same as rear gears in a car, heres a list I made going from lowest gearing (numerically higher) to highest gearing (numerically lower). The ratio numbers dont really mean anything other than giving a good idea how drastic of a change we'll make.

    12/38 - 3.17
    12/37 - 3.08
    12/36 - 3.00
    13/38 - 2.92
    13/37 - 2.84
    13/36 - 2.76
    14/38 - 2.71
    14/37 - 2.64
    13/34 - 2.62
    14/36 - 2.57
    14/35 - 2.50
    14/34 - 2.43
    1999 300EX- The other red meat.

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    to the top for all to see!

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    up!

    theres alot of great info in here
    87' 250x- stock
    06 450er - has the basics

    and a few beaters

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    ttt

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