The March issue has the shootout of all 7 450's. Very thorough as they did drags, trail, weight,handling,ergo's, plushness, and price. The KTM450 got 1st with the DS getting 2nd, then the Outlaw pulling 3rd. Very good reading with pluses and minus's to all. One thing I did find suprising was weights. They weied all quads on Nascar scales on each tire with 1 gal of gas. The KTM came in the lightest at 367lbs, with the DS at 370lbs. The YFZ came in at 377lbs (shows there dry weight way off). The heavy weight wasn't the Outlaw, but the LTR which came in at a whooping 413lbs. Still good reading if you get the issue.