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    Gotta problem

    Alright, i have a small problem with my quad. IT starts aand runsa fine, can ride it all day long, BUT under a heavy load it spits and sputters adn sometimes acts like it has spark knock. Mods are in sig, i am going to try to adjust the valves, thinking they may be set wrong, but i dont know. It will rev all the way out, amd runs great, but i try to hit my jump in 2 and 3rd and it wimply sont pull itself. in first there is not enough strain on the motor to make it do this, it will just spin in first , but in the upper gears it dont run like it should.
    Tyler Jones

    2000 426EX, 11:1 wiseco, hot cams stage 3 "stroker" cam, Ported head done by Dr. G, FCR 41, Hot rods crank, running no base gasket, 1 layer of 3 layer head gasket, Klotz 113 race fuel Feather carbon smoothie hood, works tripples w/ressies, Black HMF slip on, AC pro peg nerfs, Azonic fat bars, burgaurd +1 1/4" swinger, Lonestar +1 stem, douglas yellow label front wheels, Pro Armor front bumper, + some others goodies

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    Re: Gotta problem

    Originally posted by underpowered
    Alright, i have a small problem with my quad. IT starts aand runsa fine, can ride it all day long, BUT under a heavy load it spits and sputters adn sometimes acts like it has spark knock. Mods are in sig, i am going to try to adjust the valves, thinking they may be set wrong, but i dont know. It will rev all the way out, amd runs great, but i try to hit my jump in 2 and 3rd and it wimply sont pull itself. in first there is not enough strain on the motor to make it do this, it will just spin in first , but in the upper gears it dont run like it should.
    Hey Tyler,

    Is it smoking, did you check the compression?

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    compression is great, only smoke is from leaky valve seal (just havent had to to replace). Here is the whole story

    Put in a new cam about a month ago, ran awesome, no problems. But sence then, it has pregressively been runnign worse, valves ticking more, and the "spark Knock" sound, which i think may all be caused by a valve ajuster not being torqued down correctly, since it has only been since last time i had it apart and has been slowly getting worse. I am going to adjust the valves right now and see what that does for it.

    Chino886-It may not have been teh CDI causing the sound, but something else. Hows it working for you?
    Tyler Jones

    2000 426EX, 11:1 wiseco, hot cams stage 3 "stroker" cam, Ported head done by Dr. G, FCR 41, Hot rods crank, running no base gasket, 1 layer of 3 layer head gasket, Klotz 113 race fuel Feather carbon smoothie hood, works tripples w/ressies, Black HMF slip on, AC pro peg nerfs, Azonic fat bars, burgaurd +1 1/4" swinger, Lonestar +1 stem, douglas yellow label front wheels, Pro Armor front bumper, + some others goodies

    AIM: Fourtrax426

    Holeshot Motorsports Wilder, KY
    for all aftermarket parts

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    Originally posted by underpowered
    compression is great, only smoke is from leaky valve seal (just havent had to to replace). Here is the whole story

    Chino886-It may not have been teh CDI causing the sound, but something else. Hows it working for you?
    Don't know, wrecked bad last saturday, broke a spindle before I even put it in there.

    I don't know, your problem sounds kinda weird, how old are the rings on the piston?

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    rebuilt in the fall of '04, nothing done to the piston or rings since.
    Tyler Jones

    2000 426EX, 11:1 wiseco, hot cams stage 3 "stroker" cam, Ported head done by Dr. G, FCR 41, Hot rods crank, running no base gasket, 1 layer of 3 layer head gasket, Klotz 113 race fuel Feather carbon smoothie hood, works tripples w/ressies, Black HMF slip on, AC pro peg nerfs, Azonic fat bars, burgaurd +1 1/4" swinger, Lonestar +1 stem, douglas yellow label front wheels, Pro Armor front bumper, + some others goodies

    AIM: Fourtrax426

    Holeshot Motorsports Wilder, KY
    for all aftermarket parts

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    I noticed a loss in power but could still ride around when I pulled a head stud. There was also a ticking sound. Start it up and look around the head gasket real good.
    2001 Honda 416SS with a powerbong


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    Originally posted by Rico
    I noticed a loss in power but could still ride around when I pulled a head stud. There was also a ticking sound. Start it up and look around the head gasket real good.
    i pulled a head stud right after i got it, they were replaced. It is not so much a loss of power, just under load. on flat ground or in fist gear is still has all its power, but when you put it under a heavy strain, like accelerating up the face of a jump or on a hill, it just coughes and sputters, but does not die.

    I will have it back together in about half an hour, i will let you know if adjusting the valves helped any.
    Tyler Jones

    2000 426EX, 11:1 wiseco, hot cams stage 3 "stroker" cam, Ported head done by Dr. G, FCR 41, Hot rods crank, running no base gasket, 1 layer of 3 layer head gasket, Klotz 113 race fuel Feather carbon smoothie hood, works tripples w/ressies, Black HMF slip on, AC pro peg nerfs, Azonic fat bars, burgaurd +1 1/4" swinger, Lonestar +1 stem, douglas yellow label front wheels, Pro Armor front bumper, + some others goodies

    AIM: Fourtrax426

    Holeshot Motorsports Wilder, KY
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    Is it just sputtering/losing power on uphill approaches or is it doing this constantly. I am no mechanic by any means but could it be something as simple as a gas line being pinched or something might shift (and pinch something) if you are "in" it. maybe a carboration issue. Just thought I would give it a shot.
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    I HOPE YOU GET IT FIXED BEFORE YA'LL LEAVE TOMORROW TO GO TO BIG ROCK. I WISH I COULD GO W/ YA'LL...GOOD LUCK

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    it was a combination of two problems. It is not entirerly solved, but good enough so i can go riding tomorow. The valves were out of adjustment. mainly the intake. did that and it helped, but it would still cut out. I thought maybe it was a fuel issue. and it sort of was. I still have the winter jets (178) in it so i leaned her out a bit, and the problem is still there, it is still a little rich, it bogs on top end, but good enough to ride. I will fine tune the jetting later, and noticed i need a cam chain, which will be replaced after this ride.
    Tyler Jones

    2000 426EX, 11:1 wiseco, hot cams stage 3 "stroker" cam, Ported head done by Dr. G, FCR 41, Hot rods crank, running no base gasket, 1 layer of 3 layer head gasket, Klotz 113 race fuel Feather carbon smoothie hood, works tripples w/ressies, Black HMF slip on, AC pro peg nerfs, Azonic fat bars, burgaurd +1 1/4" swinger, Lonestar +1 stem, douglas yellow label front wheels, Pro Armor front bumper, + some others goodies

    AIM: Fourtrax426

    Holeshot Motorsports Wilder, KY
    for all aftermarket parts

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