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Thread: Ltr w/cb+no sparky vs R w/hrc

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    Ltr w/cb+no sparky vs R w/hrc

    ok seems after reading most of the honda vs suzuki threads everyone is putting the cherry bomb and pulling the spark arrestor from the ltr, and the hrc kit on the r. so after doing this to each what kind of hp does each produce and which would win a 300' dirt drag ?
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    I'm going riding in glamis this weekend with both bikes. Maybe I'll find out!!
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    Originally posted by quadfam4
    I'm going riding in glamis this weekend with both bikes. Maybe I'll find out!!
    If you put 20" paddles on the LT-R it's going to be underpowered, because the gearing is off. Just an FYI before you get too dissapointed. You need to lower the gearing to even it back out.
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    The Honda would have about five more horse or so with those setups. It wins every time with equal riders.
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    do I need to drop the front one tooth on the 450r ? it has hrc and k&n. its a 13 now, how much fun is this 450r going to be ? I still have the 250r and it was a blast to play with in the sand, but Im not sure how the 4 strokes are, the 250r was always 1/2 a second from putting to roosting.
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    I actaully thought they should have a shootout with the most common mods for them.

    Suzuki- cherry bomb
    Honda- hrc
    Yamaha- Cam Mod? idk
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    honda more hp- no, equall hp w/ hrc set up and cb on the suzuki-no. it took a 13:1 piston w/ a full exhaust and stage 2 cam to make 1 more hp than the suzuki stock w/ mods listed above. here is the byno sheet i found from another site that did the testing. equall set ups ,tires etc...
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    the yfz had the cam mod full exhaust filter set up. the honda had a filter set up as well.

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    I wonder why the honda started fluttering at max hp. floating valves ? (shouldnt until 11000 rpm) I didn t quite understand what you where trying to say. about the 13:1 an more hp no - ?
    and why does it say ltr and yfz on the dyno but no 450r or
    r ?
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    it said 450r where i got the dtone graph from.and what i was trying to saty about the 13:1 piston was that it takes much more than a hrc kit to get equal hp.

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