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Thread: 5,700 450R vs 7,000 ltr450 worth it?

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    5,700 450R vs 7,000 ltr450 worth it?

    I'm having a very hard time deciding if I want to get a honda 450r or a suzuki ltr450. I would instantly buy the suzuki exept for the money. My local dealer that helps me out alot told me I can have a ltr for 7,000 OTD. They give me a 15% discount on all parts. But a bigger dealer a little farther away has Honda 450r's for 5,700 OTD. I am a woods rider and would have to narrow the ltr450 up a little. probly used 4+1 fronts, used Z400 hubs (if they work), and a new axle, and possibly used rear beadlocks so it sits a little higher. How would the suspension be for a 150lb rider? Would I be incredibly stupid to spend that much more on a ltr?

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    My husband rode an LTR yesterday for the first time (rode it on the MX track for a while).....he said it felt YFZish, except the suspension was very stiff, it was hard to turn (tends to push in the corners) and it felt really underpowered (stock machine though). He said that he felt if you put the same mods into that and a YFZ or Honda, your YFZ and Honda would still be the better machine - let's just say he wasn't terribly impressed.......

    If you are riding woods stuff, and have to change that stuff over anyway - it seems to make more sense going with the MUCH cheaper Honda........
    Corry Weller

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    i would get the honda because i have heard form alot of poeple that the ltr is underpowered and the 450r has already been proven on the track and in the woods
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    iam a woods rider and put on 4/1 fronts and beadlock rears. i pipe it and CB, no lid. this thing will completely anniliate a 450r yfz with mods. also the suspension is set stiff from the factory. just loosen it up and youll be happy. i admt my stock bike was a tad bit faster then a stock yfz. but with the new mods hed have to have a few k in engine work to catch me.

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    Well here is the math...

    LTR450 $7000.00
    cherry bomb $40.00
    pull sparky FREE
    pull air box lid FREE

    so total $7040.00

    things you would have to do to the honda to keep up in hp and susension

    TRX450 $5700.00
    pipe $500.00
    jet kit $80.00
    k&n $30.00
    a-arms $600.00
    revalve front shocks $300.00
    wider rear axle $300.00

    total $7510.00

    i think even then the TRX may be alittle down on power, but take your pick. I chose the LTR and am very happy. Now lets see if it holds up 1/2 as good as the honda.

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    I keep leaning toward the ltr. ^^I ride in the woods and am planning on starting xc this summer. Only thing is with a Honda i would stay stock with and just revalve. So it would be Suzuki would be 7,040 +axle+front rims and tires+rear rims and tires. The honda would only be $6,410 and esimate for suzuki would be 7,700.

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    or try the $250.00 hrc kit with the $5700 price and your still under 6k (all the 450's yfz 450r ltr) are pretty close once allowed to breath. ltr has benifit of wider stance stock but in woods is it a pro or a con ? try them both and see how u feel neither will be a bad choice and between them the rider will be the deciding factor.
    2006 trx450r
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    oh i almost forgot to include the honda reliability every red rider takes for granted (it just is) the ltr in its first year may have bugs to work out, check other posts
    2006 trx450r
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    Local dealer here has a 06 elec start HRC kit LRD piped TRX for 7,599.00
    '05 z435 <-Sleeper->

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    Originally posted by z400roosteR
    Local dealer here has a 06 elec start HRC kit LRD piped TRX for 7,599.00

    ^ ^ ^ rip off
    05 450R- Pro Taper Bars, H-Bomb Films graphics.... more to come.


    Originally posted by stuff
    i did half a back flip on my bike and landed on my head. and on my quad i can do half a 180 in the air. then land sideways.

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