get the outy 800, you wont be regretting it once you ride it! great power everywhere

and motochamp 250, the rincon has alot of power, it has better suspension than the rubicon. The new rubicons arent the greatest, but they are pretty nice and powerful quads. Im not trying to start up a post-fight here, but im just saying dont talk bad about the rincon, they do pretty good in competition in stock vs. stock competition