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Thread: learned a valuable lesson about swingarm

  1. #11
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    when i took my motor out of my frame to get the motor work my bolt came right out like nothing.... all i did was this...

    i unscrewed the bolt almost till the end of the treads and then left the socket on the screw... i then got a rubber mallet and just hit the socket one time and it pushed the bolt out the whole way that the screw would let it... i then unscrewed the bolt the whole way off... now on the other side behind the lip of the head on the bolt i could fit a adjustable wrench... i then found a leverage point on the motor and frame and pushed and the bolt slid right out with no trouble at all... it was easy... thank god!!!!!

    when i put the bolt back on i made sure i gave it a extra good coast of BELRAY water proof grease... and hopefully its fine from now on....
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    hey rico is there anywhere else we need to be lubing on a regular basis? im used to the grease nipples on my 2-stroke! little new to my 400! thanks!
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  3. #13
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    Easy fix!

    Ok first off before you remove the nut just loosen it up maybe one turn then use a brass hammer or a 2lb hammer and a piece of wood and strike the nut just to see if it is gonna come out and you won't damage the threads. 2nd if it doesn't move the best thing to use is a 3/4 impact wrench on the opposite side and see if it will spin if it spins it will come out! If you don't have an impact use at least a 1/2 drive breaker bar and try to free it. And if that doesn't work you are gonna have to use a firewrench (torch). The bolt isn't stuck in the swingarm it is stuck in the frame. So just heat the frame around the bolt and don't over due it, It doesn't take much heat to expand the metal enough to free the bolt. When reinstalling the bolt the best mix I have seen is a synthetic greased mixed with anti-seeze. I wouldn't go through the hassle of removing the bolt just to lube it once a month if it really concerns you I would just loosen the nut and spin it a few times just to make sure you will be able to remove it when you need to.
    I have only seen one instance where the bolt wouldn't come off and that was a 1985 tri-z 250 that had the original swingarm bearings in it. We tried removing the swingarm bolt in 1998 needless to say it would not come out ended up cutting it off and pressing what was left out of the engine with a 40 ton press and alot of heat it finally came out. But you wont have that problem with a 400ex unless you park it in a swamp for a few month's.
    Previously owned bikes:81-yz80,82-ty80, 85-tri moto 200, 84-rm125, 85 xr200, 84 rm500, 87 rm125, 83 honda big red, 88-250r, 89-250 quadracer, 90- 500 quadzilla,86 cr500, 91-250 quadracer, 86 tri-z, 89 xt600, 94 fzr600, 95 timberwolf, 93-banshee, 88- 265R, 01-250ex(wifes). 2001 400ex, 440 kit, 03 ds650, 00 big bear 4X4, 01,xr200r, 1995 wr250z, 2002 yz250 2smoker, 2002 husky wr360, 2004 400ex

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    Like most, I had the same problem. I used a hammer and a long, but skinny phillips head screw driver to drive mine out.
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  5. #15
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    The first time I removed my 400's pivot bolt (1 year after it was bought) it was a little stiff. I just placed a jack under the swingarm where the bolt runs through and firmed it up a bit. Then I took a regular hammer and long solid metal rod and drove it out. Just as an aside, PB's really works - we used to use it on 75 year old natural gas line bolts/clamps and it worked like a charm.

  6. #16
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    mine was like butter my quad is only 10 months old tho
    my yellow 2002 400ex has acnerfs with black nets,procircuit t-4 ,header+slipon,k&n chrome filter+jetkit 160mj and 40 pilot jet, , , renthal bars,full ac under belly skid plate and mud screen bumper,factory effex graphics+seat cover,black outerwears shockcovers,cut fenders,j&l parking brake block off itp .190 rims with 6 ply razors ,no air box lid , new black omf oil cooler air scoops. ebc sintured metel brake pads,tm design black chain slider polished throttle cover.polished side case and oil filter cover, works tripple rates w/ressies

  7. #17
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    Originally posted by 400ex21
    when i put the bolt back on i made sure i gave it a extra good coast of BELRAY water proof grease... and hopefully its fine from now on....
    That is what I use and has worked great for me. I recently removed mine with no problem..... Probably because I lube it once a year.

    I'll admit though, the first time I took it off I needed to back the nut off some and hit it with a hammer..... Then used my 6" extension from my 3/8" socket set and pounded the rest of the pivot bolt through.
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  8. #18
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    I must be lucky. Mine came right out. I coated it with Mobil1 grease, and put it right back in. Whole process took mybe seven minutes.
    04 Camo Suzuki Vinson

  9. #19
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    I just yanked the entire swingarm out on my 400EX this weekend, to replace the rear bearings and lub up the swingarm needle bearings. My bolt wasn't too hard to get out after removing the nut though...I just made sure I turned the bolt a few times before using a large phillips screwdriver as a punch. After I got the bolt out I noticed that the culprit wasn't a lack of lubrication though, but rust. So in my opinion, corrosion is what is making most of your bolts hard to get out. Rather than use grease on the bolt, I opted to use a rust inhibitor I found at a place that sells nuts/bolts, machine shop tools, etc.--it's an industrial product called LPS-3.

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