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    rode a 440ex for the first time

    today i rode my friend 440 that he just bought and it supposedly has tc cam, lightened flywheel, p&p, titanium valves, the whole works all built by TC and i wasnt impressed with it at all. we drag raced and it only beat my 416 (hotcam stage II, K&N, e-series slip on all built by me)by a little, it jumped ahead about 2 lengths right off the start then he didnt gain anymore....... keep in mind that he has been racing quads twice as long as me

    maybe i am expecting too much but i figured a full race 440 would blow my mild 416 away by 5 or 6 lengths

    what do you guys think?

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    you are either full of **** or there is something majorly wrong with the 440. what compression is yours and what is his, there is a possibility you would take him on a track but it a drag it should kill you.
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    yeah, something is screwed up because that bike should be handing it to you...
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    he should have went with Thumper Racing...thats who im goin with this summer (i have to do summer re biulds cuz im only 16 and only time to get a job is in the summer) i will let you guys no how she runs when its summer time
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    like i said i expected alot more from it and he bought it like that and im wondering if the guy who sold it to him screwed him on the deal plus there is oil around the head and that def. shouldnt happen if a motor is put together by TC. also i rode the bike and the clutch was extremely stiff and the shifting wansnt smooth at all

    we only dragged once across a field and didnt really have anyone starting us or anything like that so maybe i just got lucky

    i am afraid he got screwed cause of the oil i saw around the head plus why would a full race motor have a stock header (i dont think i mentioned that)

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    Originally posted by 400exracer511
    like i said i expected alot more from it and he bought it like that and im wondering if the guy who sold it to him screwed him on the deal plus there is oil around the head and that def. shouldnt happen if a motor is put together by TC. also i rode the bike and the clutch was extremely stiff and the shifting wansnt smooth at all

    we only dragged once across a field and didnt really have anyone starting us or anything like that so maybe i just got lucky

    i am afraid he got screwed cause of the oil i saw around the head plus why would a full race motor have a stock header (i dont think i mentioned that)
    sounds funny to me i think ur buddy got beat i never heard of ne1 with a 440 n a stock header
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    yeah he is selling the motor and putting a crf 450 motor in it anyway ill try to get him to take it apart before he gets rid of it just to see what is in there

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    Originally posted by QuAdEr 317
    sounds funny to me i think ur buddy got beat i never heard of ne1 with a 440 n a stock header

    I ran mine with a stocker header for about 6 months. Couldn't afford anything better until now. We'll see what happens.
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    If it was built by TC for real then it is possible that he is still using the stock header on it. ONLY if he is using the TC pipe with it. The TC shorty pipe uses the stock header with 5-6 inches sawed off of it and works quite well. If he is using a stock header and not the TC pipe, then something is wrong...

    You should be able to tell pretty easy if the motor has all that he says it has. The cam will be engraved with TC on it and also which cam it is. If it is ported and polished, that will be evident real quick as well when you look in the intake ports. The Ti. valves will be easy to spot as well, and the piston should be domed. You have to take the top end apart anyway to fix the head gasket, so do a thorough inspection. Also, CHECK THE HEAD STUDS...
    -Paul

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    its either you both suck, or something is incredibly wrong. this picture just doesnt sound right at all.
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