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Thread: Cuts out under load

  1. #1
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    Cuts out under load

    here the problem, i can sit there and nail the throttle(in nuetral) and it revs out just fine... and does just fine in about 90% of the drag race type takeoffs... my problem is that say i go into a corner in a gear thats alittle high, it cuts in and out like(sounds the same as when you run out of gas, cuts on and off) but as soon as i downshift it works right, most of the time. I just got this 400 like 2 weeks ago, i checked everything out on it.. its got a 165 in it now,.. screw is at 3 1/2, i tried it at 2 1/2 but it did the same thing(of course) i checked the needle, now correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the needle in a jet kit usually have the size and other stuff marked on it?? this one has nothing on it at all.... the only time it does this is if im in a gear just alittle (should still run, maybe bog down, not cut out) high and i nail the throttle.... like its not getting enough gas..or maybe too much... OH another thing... until the quad has been running for like 2-3 mins.. when you punch the gas it blows alittle smoke,.. only when you punch it though... i was thinking this might be to rich... and also be the problem for the cutting out,.. too much gas??
    -ATV ORF 2 name- PRAY-37

    FOR SALE 2000 400ex: nerf bars,AC front bumper, ANSWER bars, brake block off plate, new clutch perch and lever, WB E-series slip on, K&N power kit(165 main with no air box lid), K&N filter(not installed) WB filter with pre-ware,RAZR front tires,RAZOR rears on 10" Douglas Alum., 14T front,38T rear sprocket, tether kill switch, front wheels reversed and more to come... removed choke butterfly, custom GORTEX shock covers, and pre-ware airbox lid. custom made oil cooler scoops, brush guards... , , and 16T and 36T gearing.

    FOR SALE
    95 Skidoo Formula SS 670-new part/1" paddle,racing clutch, more..


    USED TO OWN :
    95 Kawasaki KX250
    2001 Polaris Sportsman 500 "THE TANK"
    84 KTM 600
    84 Honda XL600R
    84 Honda TRX200 some mods
    87 KX 125 with mods,
    82 RM 250 with mods,
    and 85 CR 500 with mods maxed out

    http://photos.yahoo.com/yellow_ho_01
    http://photos.yahoo.com/yellow_ho_01_2
    http://photos.yahoo.com/red_400ex_00

  2. #2
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    sounds like your just riding in to tall of a gear ta me..

  3. #3
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    but...

    but its not really that high... i meanits not like im up 2 gears.. plus i have a 14T on front.... it even does it if i stay in the gear,... after the speed picks up... it feels like water or bad gas.... but like i said it only does it when i said. When i downshift and it stops... the rpm's are higher then what i would normally ride trails at(when in the lower gear) is that too confusing??
    -ATV ORF 2 name- PRAY-37

    FOR SALE 2000 400ex: nerf bars,AC front bumper, ANSWER bars, brake block off plate, new clutch perch and lever, WB E-series slip on, K&N power kit(165 main with no air box lid), K&N filter(not installed) WB filter with pre-ware,RAZR front tires,RAZOR rears on 10" Douglas Alum., 14T front,38T rear sprocket, tether kill switch, front wheels reversed and more to come... removed choke butterfly, custom GORTEX shock covers, and pre-ware airbox lid. custom made oil cooler scoops, brush guards... , , and 16T and 36T gearing.

    FOR SALE
    95 Skidoo Formula SS 670-new part/1" paddle,racing clutch, more..


    USED TO OWN :
    95 Kawasaki KX250
    2001 Polaris Sportsman 500 "THE TANK"
    84 KTM 600
    84 Honda XL600R
    84 Honda TRX200 some mods
    87 KX 125 with mods,
    82 RM 250 with mods,
    and 85 CR 500 with mods maxed out

    http://photos.yahoo.com/yellow_ho_01
    http://photos.yahoo.com/yellow_ho_01_2
    http://photos.yahoo.com/red_400ex_00

  4. #4
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    you should check your compression.

    If the compression is down and you need to power into a higher gear it just doesnt have the "power" to do it.

    Why I first got my 400 (w/ims 440 kit) it had plenty of power to pull a higher gear. Since rebuilding the cylinder and rings etc I had a problem with a valve seat and it killed the compression. I am dealing with a proble like yours till I get the valve problem fixed. Till then it like to be riden like a 2 stroke in the power band/

    Since you purchased the bike used you will need to get together some info and the compression is a good place to start.

  5. #5
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    ok...

    what should the compression be at.. ill try to find a gauge ASAP.. thanks... i knwo its kinda hard to tell by the feel of it... but as you might know to adjust the valves you need to turn the crank with a 17mm socket,... just by doing that it feels like it has plenty of compression... but i will find a gauge though,, thanks
    -ATV ORF 2 name- PRAY-37

    FOR SALE 2000 400ex: nerf bars,AC front bumper, ANSWER bars, brake block off plate, new clutch perch and lever, WB E-series slip on, K&N power kit(165 main with no air box lid), K&N filter(not installed) WB filter with pre-ware,RAZR front tires,RAZOR rears on 10" Douglas Alum., 14T front,38T rear sprocket, tether kill switch, front wheels reversed and more to come... removed choke butterfly, custom GORTEX shock covers, and pre-ware airbox lid. custom made oil cooler scoops, brush guards... , , and 16T and 36T gearing.

    FOR SALE
    95 Skidoo Formula SS 670-new part/1" paddle,racing clutch, more..


    USED TO OWN :
    95 Kawasaki KX250
    2001 Polaris Sportsman 500 "THE TANK"
    84 KTM 600
    84 Honda XL600R
    84 Honda TRX200 some mods
    87 KX 125 with mods,
    82 RM 250 with mods,
    and 85 CR 500 with mods maxed out

    http://photos.yahoo.com/yellow_ho_01
    http://photos.yahoo.com/yellow_ho_01_2
    http://photos.yahoo.com/red_400ex_00

  6. #6
    Guest
    I think the stock comp is listed at from 100-130psi.

    Let us know what you find.

  7. #7
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    Location
    Lewiston , MAINE
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    problem fixed

    just out of curiousity i took off my airbox lid, thinking i was running rich... i was right.. runs great now..... i was kicking *****!!! now i just need a new clutch..... any suggestions???
    -ATV ORF 2 name- PRAY-37

    FOR SALE 2000 400ex: nerf bars,AC front bumper, ANSWER bars, brake block off plate, new clutch perch and lever, WB E-series slip on, K&N power kit(165 main with no air box lid), K&N filter(not installed) WB filter with pre-ware,RAZR front tires,RAZOR rears on 10" Douglas Alum., 14T front,38T rear sprocket, tether kill switch, front wheels reversed and more to come... removed choke butterfly, custom GORTEX shock covers, and pre-ware airbox lid. custom made oil cooler scoops, brush guards... , , and 16T and 36T gearing.

    FOR SALE
    95 Skidoo Formula SS 670-new part/1" paddle,racing clutch, more..


    USED TO OWN :
    95 Kawasaki KX250
    2001 Polaris Sportsman 500 "THE TANK"
    84 KTM 600
    84 Honda XL600R
    84 Honda TRX200 some mods
    87 KX 125 with mods,
    82 RM 250 with mods,
    and 85 CR 500 with mods maxed out

    http://photos.yahoo.com/yellow_ho_01
    http://photos.yahoo.com/yellow_ho_01_2
    http://photos.yahoo.com/red_400ex_00

  8. #8
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    cincinnatus ny usa
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    As i was reading though all the posts i was trying to think of things it could be, now my head hurts. lol, but its good it was just the air box lid,

    i cant wait till i get my 400
    99 chevy ZR-2
    01 426EX
    02 CR 250
    03 CBR600RR
    03 MXZX factory mod 800

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