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Thread: I am tired of getting spanked...

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    I am tired of getting spanked...

    My friend has a 400z with a full curtis sparks race exhaust and jet kit and when we race he walks away from me. In a 1/4 mile he usually beats me by 4 quad lengths. Do you guys have problems beating the 400z in a race? This is what I have done to my 400ex:

    Full FMF exhaust
    165 main jet
    curtis sparks 6 degree timing advance
    K and N air filter
    Air box lid mod (has a 3 inch hole in it)
    Hot Cam stage 2
    10:1 high compression piston

    I do have 1 inch bigger diameter tires in the front with the .190 wall thickness, could that really be slowing me down?

    I need help!

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    It sounds to me that you shoudnt have much trouble beating him with those mods. But hey im no expert

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    He shouldn't be beating you by that much, I'd say it's rider error. Improve on your take-offs and shifting techniques down.
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    Rider error shouldn't be a problem because we are doing 2nd gear roll-ons. Basically we are showing all engine.

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    Don't feel bad a bone stock Z400 beat my KFX which had a jet kit, full Yoshi RS-3, Pro-Flow foam air filter, Razr2's with Hipers, and Hotcams Stage2.... (stage 2 kit is both cams)

    This Bone stock Z also won multiple races with a 440EX and a Predator 500, it even beat a 250R trike. With a different riders on my quad the race was closer but the stock Z400 still won... So don't feel bad at all, it's just one of those things that the factory gets right every now and then. You can change your gearing so that you get the holeshot or pull on him at the end... that gives you a legitimate excuse about why you can't win. (I would redo the jetting though and do full plug chops, every bike is different and the jetting might be off a wee-bit...
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    Originally posted by Sc0
    Don't feel bad a bone stock Z400 beat my KFX which had a jet kit, full Yoshi RS-3, Pro-Flow foam air filter, Razr2's with Hipers, and Hotcams Stage2.... (stage 2 kit is both cams)

    This Bone stock Z also won multiple races with a 440EX and a Predator 500, it even beat a 250R trike. With a different riders on my quad the race was closer but the stock Z400 still won... So don't feel bad at all, it's just one of those things that the factory gets right every now and then. You can change your gearing so that you get the holeshot or pull on him at the end... that gives you a legitimate excuse about why you can't win. (I would redo the jetting though and do full plug chops, every bike is different and the jetting might be off a wee-bit...
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    Originally posted by Lil_300Ex_Kid
    Can you say sleeper?
    Yea....it obviously wasnt stock.
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    I dont believe a word of it... A stock Z400 is not that impressive of a bike, especially to be beating a slightly MODDED version of the SAME bike (your KFX). There is no way that the factory "got it right" with his Z and missed the boat with your KFX. If this was the case, Suzuki would have some major quality control issues to deal with... (Oh WAIT, thats right, they DO have major quality control issues with those bikes... There IS no quality to them at all!!!) By the way, the dude has to be a sleeper...
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