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Thread: Was race gas to blame?

  1. #31
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Waterloo IL
    I have a 1984 XR500R and a 1976 Yamaha TT500. They both start within 2 kicks when cold. To my knowledge neither one has been rebuilt. A 28 year old bike starts like it's new, I don't think age has anything to do with ease of starting. As long as the bike is in good tune and in good mechaically condition it will fire right up regardless of age.
    2004 TRX450R, HRC equipped, Yosh full system. SOLD
    2003 TRX400EX
    1993 Harley Davidson FXSTC
    1992 Mustang GT 331 Supercharged 6-speed
    1985 Mustang GT
    1985 ATC250R ESR
    1985 ATC350X Restored
    1984 XR500R
    1982 XL500R
    1977 F-150 4x4 4-speed 460
    1976 TT500
    1966 Fairlane

  2. #32
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    New Orleans, Ohio
    Originally posted by TCracin440ex
    i know i had a 1992 250x and boy that mofo was a pain in the arse to kick over simply because it was old, an the compression release cable was worn out and wouldnt open the valves correctly.....the 450r is proally the best 4 stroke kicker set up ive ever seen....i dont know if this is true or dont flame...but ive been told by many people not to put the kicker on the yfz 450 because its a pain in the *** to kick because it dont have an auto compression release...and that is why many of the yz450fs are harder to kick also...i dont know if its true...
    A lot of guys are running the YFZ kicker only, no decompression mechanism, and I haven't heard of a complaint yet.
    2003 Cannondale Blaze

  3. #33
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    looking for places to ride in NJ!
    A lot of guys are running the YFZ kicker only, no decompression mechanism, and I haven't heard of a complaint yet.
    I was under the impression the YFZ had a decompression mechanism...if it didn't I wouldn't try kicking it. No decompression device on the Yami and trying to kickstart it, is a bit too intense for anyone's leg, on bad kick and booom, it will kick you back to next week!!! Anyhow I think the YFZ comes with an autodecompression like the TRX...if not then man someone is going to get HURT!!!
    1986 250R (Macdizzy 350 PV)
    2004 TRX 450R
    GT Thunder 490 kit w/ 13:1 JE
    HMF Exhaust
    FCR40mm Carb
    HRC Cam
    GT Thunder Rear Linkage

  4. #34
    Join Date
    Sep 2000
    Well, since *you* haven't heard any complaints then apparently there aren't any...

    Actually, I spent a little time talking to a YFZ owner that has the kickstart setup a while back - he didn't have good things to say about it. Don't remember what all he said, but I do remember he didn't like it. He also asked me several questions about the 450R's starting and was anxious to try one out.

    The thing with the 450R that people who haven't ridden them don't realize is how much effort Honda put into making this quad easy to kick and start quickly.

    As far as aging and becoming harder to start --- it's all about maintenancing your equipment. If you let your engine get down on compression, develop valve sealing issues, and just generally roach it out, you probably deserve a machine that doesn't start easily.

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