I'm sure everyone will find a gripe about it but you can find one with any quad. The 450r looks like the quad for me!
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I'm sure everyone will find a gripe about it but you can find one with any quad. The 450r looks like the quad for me!
For mxing I suppose once you are going, then you are good. But I believe on the trails an electric starter would have an advantage... I know I have been in ALOT of tuff places where that electric starter fired my Z back up and saved me. I guess I am spoiled but I have owned 2 banshees and a quadracer (as far as kickers go), and I DO NOT plan on going back to it.
I would like the idea of having a backup starter to go along with my electric on a quad.
But to the point, If one is better than the other over 1 small detail then I am there.... If one is better in one thing, and the other is better in another, well............ If it's not too much of a difference then I am staying with my electric start..
And I know I am going to be behind the times having a Z400 but I still am in LOVE with my REVERSE . Someone needs to make me a bike with electric start, kick start, reverse, low center of gravity, great looks, amazing handling, 60hp stock, good spread of power, 300lbs wet, and $4800.00..
There.
:D
wew im glad i made the right decision:machoQuote:
Originally posted by Jnine
In stock form I and quite a few of the other guys thought the YFZ handled better. In fact, after 1 lap one test guy came back and said he "bottomed over everything bigger than a cigarette butt" After dialing in the shocks - which do have a lot of adjustment to their credit - he was pretty happy. It does jump well, and is pretty predictable. As for the YFZ, it is extremely well balanced in the air also, but the big difference is that it has a lower center of gravity, and that makes a huge difference in the corners. That's where you win races. The YFZ carries it's weight very low. Even though the Honda is almost identical to the Yamaha in wheelbase, it feels quite a bit taller because of the seating position (more upright) and it's higher center of gravity. It carries the fuel very high (even above your knees). LIke I said, it feels exactly like an EX witha little more power. The Yamaha feels like a racer, because that is what they wanted it to be. One other thing I found a little annoying was the cutouts in the plastic by the edge of the seat. They have a nasty habit of catching your boot. Another thing I didn't understand was why the rear fenders don't come off like the R for cleaning. On the R you pull a little lever and the entire rear deck comes off easily. Really makes cleanup a lot easier. I wish this bike did that also. Just my (and some other guys) thoughts. I do like this quad, but it would be the second one for me. Actually third since my R is never going to leave.
Thanks for the post John. I guess my first opinion may be right about the Yfz when I first saw it.. more R like than what honda made. Don't get me wrong.. the 450R is sweet... but I dont think it deserves the "R".. maybe 450ex would be a little more truthful.Quote:
Originally posted by Jnine
In stock form I and quite a few of the other guys thought the YFZ handled better. In fact, after 1 lap one test guy came back and said he "bottomed over everything bigger than a cigarette butt" After dialing in the shocks - which do have a lot of adjustment to their credit - he was pretty happy. It does jump well, and is pretty predictable. As for the YFZ, it is extremely well balanced in the air also, but the big difference is that it has a lower center of gravity, and that makes a huge difference in the corners. That's where you win races. The YFZ carries it's weight very low. Even though the Honda is almost identical to the Yamaha in wheelbase, it feels quite a bit taller because of the seating position (more upright) and it's higher center of gravity. It carries the fuel very high (even above your knees). LIke I said, it feels exactly like an EX witha little more power. The Yamaha feels like a racer, because that is what they wanted it to be. One other thing I found a little annoying was the cutouts in the plastic by the edge of the seat. They have a nasty habit of catching your boot. Another thing I didn't understand was why the rear fenders don't come off like the R for cleaning. On the R you pull a little lever and the entire rear deck comes off easily. Really makes cleanup a lot easier. I wish this bike did that also. Just my (and some other guys) thoughts. I do like this quad, but it would be the second one for me. Actually third since my R is never going to leave.
I would half to agree with you to about the trx450r should be called a trx450ex if you ask me..Just my opinion. BUT You will not see a YFZ in my shop over the TRX 450r,, I am a big honda fan and I know that the YFZ is a awsome quad but I know I will never do any MXing just play riding I truely think that the honda will be bullet proof all around and If I was going to get a new quad it would be the TRX450r. If I wanted to go super fast I would go get my R out, nethier one of them bikes could keep up with that thing. BUT IT DONT matter what you ride as long as your haveing FUN!:D :cool:Quote:
Originally posted by 310Rduner
Thanks for the post John. I guess my first opinion may be right about the Yfz when I first saw it.. more R like than what honda made. Don't get me wrong.. the 450R is sweet... but I dont think it deserves the "R".. maybe 450ex would be a little more truthful.
Neither one is a bad choice. Like the person mentioned in one of the posts, it's all about having fun. Make your choice (maybe even a Suzuki or even a Polaris) and go out and ride.
When a Pro runs the Intermediate Class around here....we laugh at him. That is just not right.
How did the Honda pull the YFZ's once the race was on....nevermind the start.....what about on the hills and comin' out of the corners and such? That's what I want to know.
A pro racing in the intermediate class... pthththhthththhh :p
Now if he raced the pro class, then maybe this "race win" would mean something. Since it isn't at the highest level at competition, as has been said in numerous posts, it doesn't prove squat.
Only when Farr lines up with Gust and Ellis and beats them both, then we'll see which quad has the most potential.
Wouldn't it be funny if Gust wiped everyones' butts next year on a Factory Suzuki LT-Z400?!?! :D
Now THAT would be a miracle.Quote:
Originally posted by AlaskaTRX
Wouldn't it be funny if Gust wiped everyones' butts next year on a Factory Suzuki LT-Z400?!?! :D
I doubt it will suck to be Doug.... Keep in mind what everyone keeps talking about--- 90% rider.
I am a firm believer that as long as the bikes racing are "decently close" then the rider will determine the outcome. I have seen ALOT of people have a better quad and get outridden, go out sell theirs and get one like the one that outran them AND still get whipped...
George