He pretty much lied himself into one.Quote:
Originally posted by hondarider11
Haha I know but byrd doesn't cost people their championship now does he?
He pretty much lied himself into one.Quote:
Originally posted by hondarider11
Haha I know but byrd doesn't cost people their championship now does he?
He did in '06 at Birch Creek............. What comes around goes around...........Quote:
Originally posted by hondarider11
Haha I know but byrd doesn't cost people their championship now does he?
like i said on sunday creamer if you watch the vid clips made a mistake. even if he had won and byrd was 2nd he still could not of won the overall. so why take a risky chance of taking out you and byrd . byrds 2-2 finish is a better overall than creamers 4-1 if he would of made a CLEAN PASS for the win.
1. stop riding honda and joes dickQuote:
Originally posted by hondarider11
I am pretty much blaming the whole thing on josh. Byrd was in a close points race and now hes in a hole. He was going around the last corner and got blasted by someone who had no chance at the championship. He swung which is pretty much natural instinct. If you race for that long that hard and get hit right there wouldn't you take action? Since he didn't swing more than once he probably didn't mean to do it in the first place just spur of the moment type of thing. Joe byrd got hit he wasn't the one running into creamer now was he?
2. things happen when your racing hard it was not something josh DID because he was top 5 in points and seeing as racing is his job i seriously doubt he would jeopardize that just to cornhole joe
3. byrd wasn't gonna win the points anyways, i would love to see wienen do it but barring some amazing changes in the way things are wimmers pretty much a lock
4. no, i wouldn't have taken a swing i would've have been doing everything i could to get across the line.
Justice has been served. Byrd was out of line period Creamer’s team should have left it in the hands of officials. What is this UFC Byrd vs Creamer Tag Team….lol!
MX Sports Pro Racing, Inc. announced today the issuance of penalties to AMA Pro ATV motocross riders Joe Byrd and Josh Creamer as a result of separate incidents during the Pleasure Valley ATV National in Armagh, Pennsylvania, on July 19, 2009.
Joe Byrd was penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct directed toward another rider during the final lap of the second moto, in violation of AMA Pro Racing ATV Rulebook Appendix A, Section 2.3(i), which provides that competitors are subject to disciplinary action for engaging in misbehavior or conduct detrimental to the sport. Byrd has been fined and placed on probation for the remainder of the season.
Josh Creamer was penalized for the unsportsmanlike conduct of his crew members in the pro paddock following the conclusion of the event. Although Creamer was not directly involved in the incident giving rise to the penalty, he was penalized pursuant to AMA Pro Racing ATV Rulebook, Appendix A, Section 1.1, which provides that "AMA Pro Racing-licensed riders are held responsible for the actions of their crew members," and further, that "[a]ll parties involved in AMA Pro Racing meets are expected to conduct themselves in a professional manner." Creamer has been fined and placed on probation for the remainder of the season as well.
All fine money is donated to the 88 Live to Ride Foundation benefiting the ATV mobile medic unit
I don't understand why you would blame this all on Josh, because you don't think he is in the run for points then he shouldQuote:
Originally posted by hondarider11
I am pretty much blaming the whole thing on josh. Byrd was in a close points race and now hes in a hole. He was going around the last corner and got blasted by someone who had no chance at the championship. He swung which is pretty much natural instinct. If you race for that long that hard and get hit right there wouldn't you take action? Since he didn't swing more than once he probably didn't mean to do it in the first place just spur of the moment type of thing. Joe byrd got hit he wasn't the one running into creamer now was he?
just throw in the towel.......I don't think so, they are all here to
race and fullfill thier obligations to thier sponsors which is to race
to the finish, not give up. Maybe if he was not brake checked then
there would not have been a pile up...who knows. What I know is that Josh should not be penalized for his teams lack of control.
How would you know if Joe meant anything since he only swung once? There is alot of speculation going on here and the evidence
has been reviewed, had Josh T-boned him like some claim then
he would have been penalized for. My opinion justice was served.
So what exactly happened with creamers pit crew? What did they do?
they all went over to byrds pit to "talk" about what happened. it was a stupid idea and although only a few words were exchanged in this situation, none of which came from creamer himself the ama still decided to put a black mark on creamers record.Quote:
Originally posted by RIDEREDson
So what exactly happened with creamers pit crew? What did they do?
I just watched the weekly vid and it didn't look like Creamer dove in to slam Byrd to me. What was going to be a rub nuge went south for both riders.Josh was possibly a little out of control from the jump before where he got sideways and a little park by byrd was all it took to make the contact more then either rider intended.I believe that corner was a racing thing that just went bad.It looks like creamer is wanting to get 2nd from wimmer more then 1st from joe.Sometimes they get sucked up but most of the time those guys would glance and go on.
I will say this after watching the vid.Watch the wimmer byrd battle.Wimmer raced clean while byrd did his famous lane change shove off the track attempt move right on the tape.This is the same move he did to wienen on tape at a resent round.He just moves 1/2 or more of thier quad off of the track for them.He is fast enough that he needs to stop this crap he pulls on the track before he really hurts somebody.
Sorry for going off topic... but does anyone know the song for Jeff Rastrelli's rookie profile video ?