For those who may have not noticed yet atvriders.com has a section just for the LTR 450:)
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/forumdis...?s=&forumid=85
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For those who may have not noticed yet atvriders.com has a section just for the LTR 450:)
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/forumdis...?s=&forumid=85
You're kidding right? Let's revisit this thread in one year. I'll bet MOST of these new rides are modded out by then. People add aftermarket parts even when they do not need them. It has nothing to do with needing them.Quote:
Originally posted by FoxRacing81
They are gonna mod it whenever Cindi just said Doug would race it stock?
This quad wasn't made for XC or Trail Riding, like you just stated. Why would you consider spending over $1,000 on it to make it trail worthy when about 99% of quads offered are for trail riding? People make no sense. This isn't an XC or Trail quad at all. You don't wanna buy it because you ride trails, fine, every other quad out is made for trails pretty much. You have plenty of options.
-Justin
And this is simply 'a quad'. It may have been designed 'around' MX, but it can be rode on the trails very easily. In fact you would need to change less than if it was desgined 'around' XC and you wanted to run MX.
And I think you confuse me with a one sided person. I am a lot more involved with MX racing than I am XC. I just happen to ride XC.
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Originally posted by TheJaspMan
You're kidding right? Let's revisit this thread in one year. I'll bet MOST of these new rides are modded out by then. People add aftermarket parts even when they do not need them. It has nothing to do with needing them.
And this is simply 'a quad'. It may have been designed 'around' MX, but it can be rode on the trails very easily. In fact you would need to change less than if it was desgined 'around' XC and you wanted to run MX.
And I think you confuse me with a one sided person. I am a lot more involved with MX racing than I am XC. I just happen to ride XC.
When I say stock, I mean stock as far as suspension and motor wise. I don't consider handlebars, bumpers, etc. as mods.
On my last quote, it wasn't quoting you.
But, of course you can ride it on trails. Any quad can be ridden on trails. And if this quad wasn't designed for solely MX, why is Doug racing it with only aftermarket handlebars, tires, nerfs, killswitch, a few other things?
You run XC. Great. This quad isn't meant for XC Racers. It is made for MX Racing, and I think it will kick *** for years to come. Won't be suprised if we see a few more Pro's switch to the Zukis.
I think the first year will tell the real story on the aftermarket side (meaning shocks, arms and other goodies).Quote:
Originally posted by FoxRacing81
When I say stock, I mean stock as far as suspension and motor wise. I don't consider handlebars, bumpers, etc. as mods.
On my last quote, it wasn't quoting you.
But, of course you can ride it on trails. Any quad can be ridden on trails. And if this quad wasn't designed for solely MX, why is Doug racing it with only aftermarket handlebars, tires, nerfs, killswitch, a few other things?
You run XC. Great. This quad isn't meant for XC Racers. It is made for MX Racing, and I think it will kick *** for years to come. Won't be suprised if we see a few more Pro's switch to the Zukis.
But I do agree that I would like to see a good mix of pros running some Zukis.
Do You seriously believe people will be that mad about the a arms. They were supposedly designed by Walsh racecraft and If you really think that these bikes will stay stock for longer than four months. You are off of your rocker, Oh and go to a cross country race there will be plenty of guys who put aftermarket arms on thier quads. And everyone is acting like they are so wide Ballance rides plus 1 inch arms. So do a lot of cross country riders. So yeah they are a little wide but a trx450r or the YFZ with plus 1 arms is somewhere around 48 inches versus 49 for the suzuki. Try complaining about how it looks or something else. Havent heard to many complaints about the fuel injection. I think some people would complain if you gave them 10 dollars
LMAO!!!Quote:
Originally posted by slamdak8782
Do You seriously believe people will be that mad about the a arms. They were supposedly designed by Walsh racecraft and If you really think that these bikes will stay stock for longer than four months. You are off of your rocker, Oh and go to a cross country race there will be plenty of guys who put aftermarket arms on thier quads. And everyone is acting like they are so wide Ballance rides plus 1 inch arms. So do a lot of cross country riders. So yeah they are a little wide but a trx450r or the YFZ with plus 1 arms is somewhere around 48 inches versus 49 for the suzuki. Try complaining about how it looks or something else. Havent heard to many complaints about the fuel injection. I think some people would complain if you gave them 10 dollars
Hey! Where's my $10?
shows how much u know lmfaoQuote:
Originally posted by slamdak8782
Do You seriously believe people will be that mad about the a arms. They were supposedly designed by Walsh racecraft and If you really think that these bikes will stay stock for longer than four months. You are off of your rocker, Oh and go to a cross country race there will be plenty of guys who put aftermarket arms on thier quads. And everyone is acting like they are so wide Ballance rides plus 1 inch arms. So do a lot of cross country riders. So yeah they are a little wide but a trx450r or the YFZ with plus 1 arms is somewhere around 48 inches versus 49 for the suzuki. Try complaining about how it looks or something else. Havent heard to many complaints about the fuel injection. I think some people would complain if you gave them 10 dollars
balance and them all run a 4+1 rim that takes the width back to stock... some of them only run a +1/2 a-arm and they are actually narrower then stock;)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cindi
[B]Give me a break. XC or MX. Either way in the past you had to do work to either setup on the quads. More for the MX than XC to make it race ready correct. So now there is a quad that the MX racers can to do less and the XC has do a little more. That is just like saying you can't go race a Z-400 in MX it is a trail machine. Right!! Almost every quad out there is set up more for XC and trail riding. Finally someone built a quad set up for MX. This is what most of us have been asking for. A Factory built race ready quad. Sure there is a few things that may need to be changed or modified but all in all the average joe can go out and race this quad without having to put $4,000.00 more dollars into it to make it competitve. What the heck are all you crying about.
heres my 2 cents.
ive never owned a xc quad that you could just ride.i dont know how everybody keeps saying that you can just go buy a new quad and cross country it without a-arms,swingarms,wheels,
tires,bars,etc. you all get the drift.the new z is ugly,but im sure it has a good power plant,but if your racing, thats the only thing thats left alone for the most part.i know everyones gonna say well i do motor mods to mine,but you would be missing the point.your not gonna take a brand new one down to the cases and stroke it.i hope it flys,both mx & xc are gonna have to do their own mods. like they have been forever.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Cindi
[B]Give me a break. XC or MX. Either way in the past you had to do work to either setup on the quads. More for the MX than XC to make it race ready correct. So now there is a quad that the MX racers can to do less and the XC has do a little more. That is just like saying you can't go race a Z-400 in MX it is a trail machine. Right!! Almost every quad out there is set up more for XC and trail riding. Finally someone built a quad set up for MX. This is what most of us have been asking for. A Factory built race ready quad. Sure there is a few things that may need to be changed or modified but all in all the average joe can go out and race this quad without having to put $4,000.00 more dollars into it to make it competitve. What the heck are all you crying about.
Coudnt have said it any better Myself!!! :)
I'm not crying, but I was waiting to see the new Suzuki 450, along with MANY others....before buying a 450.
The fall of Cannondale and the total Moto sales speaks for itself why a MX oriented factory machine, doesn't work.
A fuel injected, 450 motored, quad would have been a great machine if it wasn't in a 49 inches wide chassis.....
I have my doubts that this machine will sell that great, and I don't think it will be too long before the Z400 is dropped, and a 450Z comes out.