it may depend on if it connected or notQuote:
Originally posted by TrapZ400
I wonder if the AMA is going to fine Byrd for swinging at Creamer?
it may depend on if it connected or notQuote:
Originally posted by TrapZ400
I wonder if the AMA is going to fine Byrd for swinging at Creamer?
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Originally posted by SpeedBump
Well, like I said...I think Byrd just got on the brakes a second sooner than Creamer expected...I don't think it was intentional, and I don't think for a second he even wanted contact. To me, it looked like Byrd was taking the very inside which NONE of them had been doing on any lap up till then. To me...I think Byrd KNEW the inside was the only way around him to the checkers and he was gonna block that line knowing it didn't matter if he carried any speed thru the turn. It didn't matter if he carried speed...he just needed 15 more feet without a rider sneaking inside on him. He checked up...Creamer went in a bit too hot...BANG! I've raced before and I've seen guys dive into a turn too hot expecting to use the other guy as a berm. I've BEEN the berm, and I've also used somebody as a berm. As long as you get inside it works just fine. May be a bit rough riding style, but it works in a pinch. With the points at stake...Creamer, in hindsight, probably should have just settled for 2nd, but he is AGGRESSIVE and WANTS the W! He went for it...it didn't work and they both took a hit for it. Carry on and line em up @ Red Bud.
Cody is uber fast. I saw him as he came off the track after his moto and he looked as fresh as at the start of the race. No sweat, not outta breath...smiling and saying hi to me. Gonna be great watching him run with the big boys when he makes the step up. Good job.
Side notes...hondarider11....violence is not the answer. A TRUE professional...which is what these guys want to be seen as...wouldn't resort to that kind of behavior. To be honest...Byrd's swing @ Creamer should be looked at and called out. Totally outta line IMHO.
Sparks 450...I don't hear anybody complaining about the contact and subsequent crashes in moto1 where Weinen was 'taken out". He didn't crash by himself. Its racing,,,guys make mistakes and CRASH sometimes.
Shouldn't you be in bed old man??
holeshot crashes happen every race, it hard not to when there is 20 riders taking off at the same time, there is a little bit of a difference. my point is if creamer would of got by byrd he still would not of won the overall. it seems like a bad move . maybe he lost his brakes. look at the pictures on atv riders.com
i rest my case as far as that goes. now to move forward, your defending one of the dirtiest riders in professional atv-mx history he just likes to do it quietly. josh is not an aggressive rider in that way and yes i would know that seeing as i've been watching him ride since he started and spoke to him in person on many occasions. it was a simple deal that happens all the time and i personally can't believe byrd had the balls to take a swing because if anybody out there besides doug and john should know that **** happens when your racing hard for the win its joe...Quote:
Originally posted by hondarider11
Byrd hit wimmer in the same corner
raced smarter because it cost them both points? you think it was his intention to do anything but make sure byrd finished one spot behind him? your making him out to be the bad guy in the situation and he didn't do anything wrong, he rode that corner the same way he would have if byrd was behind him, byrd on the other hand figured he could check him up and byrds block attempt cost them both positions and points. i wasn't there but i know several people who were and saw what happend and they have all told me the same thing..Quote:
Originally posted by sparks 450
come on you wait untill the last corner of the race to take him out. besides byrd didnt take out wimmer. creamer could not of won the overall anyway. creamer 1st and 4th still would not of beat byrds 2-2 for the overall. byrd is now 34 points out of 1st instead of 10 points. no i dont think he did it on purpose but he should of raced smarter because it cost them both point
he never should of took a swing, i do not think creamer would do it on pupose, and i am just saying that it is to bad it happened. It cost byrd point and hurt his chances for a title. I would not wish it on any rider.
i guarantee you right now, if byrd takes creamer out intentionally he will not only be trying to remove the ama from his rectum but several kawi team membersQuote:
Originally posted by hondarider11
You got that right sir. This was my first national I got to spectate. I usually go to watch local or pamx races. Can't wait to find out what happens. If byrd does what I think he will do creamer will have a rough end of his 2009 season.
it shouldn't depend on anything of the sort, it is incredibly unprofessional and uncalled for to even hint at fighting over an incident on the track. natalie would not have gotten away with looking at joe the wrong way when joe pushed him off the track in that whoop section and they would have happily fined gust if he hadn't laid of the jumping under yellow thing because joe was a good friend. joe byrd is a dirty rider no matter how much talent and skill he has. the time has come for him to deal with the consequences.Quote:
Originally posted by sparks 450
it may depend on if it connected or not
hopefully byrd doesnt do anything but out run him like he has most of the year
good point . keep the punishment the same for all. no matter who you areQuote:
Originally posted by extremeblastr
it shouldn't depend on anything of the sort, it is incredibly unprofessional and uncalled for to even hint at fighting over an incident on the track. natalie would not have gotten away with looking at joe the wrong way when joe pushed him off the track in that whoop section and they would have happily fined gust if he hadn't laid of the jumping under yellow thing because joe was a good friend. joe byrd is a dirty rider no matter how much talent and skill he has. the time has come for him to deal with the consequences.