After 25 yrs of Honda calling the 2 strokes "R's"....,I do think its pretty lame thay call it an "R":rolleyes:
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After 25 yrs of Honda calling the 2 strokes "R's"....,I do think its pretty lame thay call it an "R":rolleyes:
isn't R for racing? lol
haha, yeah..your right:D I know they use the R for a streetbike..but figured that was for pavement haha, Regardless, just glad to see it,or should I say...will be glad to see it when they finally release it:DQuote:
Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
isn't R for racing? lol
they should call it trx450L8
LMAO haha:D ..thats good!Quote:
Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
they should call it trx450L8
they hope they dont have too call it TRX452L8
I'm not going to bash the Yamaha or Honda either one. I'll have to give both machines more time than to judge which is "better." I've owned and ridden about everything out there, but for years now, I've been partial to Honda. Even though I've been a BIG Honda fan, doesn't mean that I'm going to say, "Honda's new TRX450R is much better than the Yamaha 450 ever thought about being." Like I said, give it time, let them do battle, and then we'll see who comes out on top.
John,
The latest dirt wheels article stated that Honda added extra reinforcements to the frame in spots to handle the abuse from racing. Can you confirm this and if so, does the frame look like it'll be stronger than most stock frames?
Well, thats a little difficult to answer in some ways. Since it is a new frame, I'm not sure what I would consider as "extra". After talking to the R & D Engineering guys and from seeing it myself, I know they were extremely careful in how they placed any gussetts, and even the shape of those gussets. Too many makes the frame overly stiff, and they definitely wanted it to flex. The frames I saw came from the production tooling, yet after looking at the welds I could see a few places where they had "cleaned them up" with a little extra hand welding or by taking a disc sander to them. They like the tube joining method they used on the EX, (Cheap!) and they are doing that again with this frame. The ones I saw were OK. Nothing to write home about, and definitely not as clean as an aftermarket frame, but OK for production, and it will be like an EX quality frame in production. It will probably be OK for most guys, at least for a while.
You know who has a great looking frame? I really have to give Suzuki credit for their welds on the LTZ frame. They use a LOT of robotic welding on that frame, and that part looks excellent. However, they can't weld everything that way, and they have to finish it up by hand. Probably can't get the torch in some of the tight areas around the front end. Unfortunately, they used an upper tube that is too thin and is not a large enough diameter, and it screws the whole thing in a very short time. There is just not enough strength in some of their tubes. We've sold quite a few frame braces to fix it. Yamaha did a pretty good job as well. The YFZ looks great in many areas.
As for the latest Dirt WHeels, even though I write for them, I kind of take exception to some of their statements this time, especially about the power. I liked it, but I think it still has somes serious issues. I guess I was riding something else.
jnine, is it true that the 450r radiator will directly bolt on to a 250r frame? I have heard rumers that it will bolt up and offer substantially better cooling than the old stock 250r radiators. Thanks in advance for your response...