Where to get music?

[BadA$$440]

Where is a good place to download some music. Perferably free but if not, the cheapest one.

[Dan_Guetter]

downloading music is the devil

[ReconRider25]

......limewire......but ssshhhh.......i didnt say it......:eek: :cool:

[Atreyu]

I bought RealRhapsody. Works pretty good for me but I don't remember how much it is. I'll find out.

[310Rduner]

Bit torrent is hands down the absolute best, look it up on Google you'll appreciate it.:devil:

[JDiablo]

coughkazaacough

[roostin_dale]

WinMX
and kazaa

[jrobbie4499]

Kazaa lite, doesn't have the popups and spyware like regular flavor Kazaa

[free_rider20]

My favorite is Ares. You can download it through download.com

[RobbRacer]

i found that imesh is the best one to download for free

[trueblue450]

winmx hands down.. no spyware and they arent bustin you on that one yet

[seatec]

you boys and girls obviously never heard of mIRC.

i hope you all get locked up for stealin.....:blah: :devil:

[Dan_Guetter]

Originally posted by seatec
you boys and girls obviously never heard of mIRC.

Sure have.....its a place only for the gifted:macho

I haven't been on MIRC in years.........

[hondarider2006]

I was using Winmx for a while, but if I where you I would just buythe song for $0.99. That way its much cheaper than buying the whole cd, and you won't get busted for illegaly downloading music.

[XxXsupa-flyXxX]

kazza or the new napster

[Giz400ex]

Limewire

[hondarider2006]

Originally posted by XxXsupa-flyXxX
kazza or the new napster

I believe the new napster you have to pay for the music??:confused: I downloaded it and it would only let me preview the songs, and than I had to buy them if I wanted the whole thing.

[310Rduner]

"Bit Torrent the intelligent p2p
About time it was adopted by mainstream sites

Written by Justin

I had a chance to play around with Bit Torrent today, and came away impressed. Bit Torrent is a remarkably small and neat piece of Unix/Python software engineering (with windows ports) that solves several (but not all) problems existing on almost all past file sharing systems.

Why Bit Torrent is different

What Bit Torrent is NOT is a file indexing and searching service, which makes it very different from the old Napster, or Kazaa, eMule, eDonkey, IRC sharing, or even using google to look for executables. The designer of Bit Torrent realized that there are two different problems with file sharing software. The first problem is reliable and efficient distribution of a file among clients, the other problem is indexing and locating all the files that are being offered on the service. The second problem is already solved in so many different ways that given one key design decision in Bit Torrent - publishing link to BT offered files on regular web pages - there is simply no need to solve it at all. The Bit Torrent experience starts when you already have the "locator" file (a "dot torrent" file) that tells the Bit Torrent client how to go about fetching the real file. How you get the locator file is up to you - someone may have emailed it to you. You may have a URL to it, it may be on a web page along with many others, or a specialized "dot torrent search website" may have dug it up for you.

You cannot be selfish with Bit Torrent

The bugbear for all file sharing services are users who take but do not give. In the Napster/Kazaa world these are users who have nothing in their "share" folder, but are always downloading from other users who do. Bit Torrent solves this problem neatly by indexing your download speed by your willingness to upload (and the amount you have uploaded so far). Since the retail internet connection space is highly asymmetrical in speed - much more download capacity exists than upload capacity - this 'fairness' indexing is not symmetrical either. For a popular file where many copies already exist on participants PCs, a small upload stream will get you several times that in download capacity. Bit Torrent also has no risky "share folder". You only share that which you are currently or have just completed downloading.

Guards against data corruption

Bit Torrent uses file fragment checksums to ensure that no invalid data is offered to the network. If you cancel a download, you can start again anytime, after the Bit Torrent client figures out what you've got of the file, and what you're still missing. The data may arrive in chunks, from all parts of the total file, depending on what is available on the network .. Bit Torrent reassembles the file on the fly leaving holes where it has too, until it can get the whole thing. Oh, by the way, a .torrent file may also describe a collection of files as easily as a single file.

Integration with the web

The beauty of Bit Torrent is that it begs to be integrated into the browser. A "dot torrent" file is most frequently expressed as just a URL. Once a Bit Torrent user has configured their browser to associate this new MIME file type with the Bit Torrent client software, then the downloading (and hence, uploading) process is kicked off just with a mouse click on the link to the .torrent file - remember, this link may be listed in a forum, in a table, or whatever. As an example, here is the .torrent file for the Matrix Reloaded trailer: http://f.scarywater.net/trailer_final_1000_dl.mov.torrent. (also available via normal single stream, from the warner bros movie site, if it is not overloaded).
All that matters is that both the underlying web server (requires trivial configuration by the web master) and the web client (requires trivial configuration by the Bit Torrent user) agree that the .torrent file is a Bit Torrent type file. The .torrent file, if it resides on a Bit Torrent aware web server, can of course be listed anywhere in the web. For example - a users regular blog, or yahoo personal page, or a forum post, can mention a .torrent file for the RedHat 9 images, and the URL is http://www.somewheresmart.com/files/redhat9iso.torrent then as long as www.somewheresmart.com has associated .torrent files with the right MIME type, then any Bit Torrent user can click that link to start the download.

Just Imagine

The year is 2003 and bandwidth has never been cheaper for major ISPs and web sites, but has never felt more expensive and rationed for the regular anonymous web user. Over the last five years the price per megabit of bulk bandwidth is plunged to perhaps 20% of what it was, yet the price of a vanilla broadband connection at home is still stuck at 50 bucks a month. Meanwhile, "free" web space now always limits bandwidth use by clients. Post any image or photo on "free" web space provided by an ISP, send the link to 20 people, and watch the page become unavailable after you exceed the monthly download allocation. Link to an image inline, and see the "no offsite image linking" warning appear. As the definition of "free" shrinks for users, web sites, in an effort to trim costs, and to gain new revenue streams, are limiting with cookies, mandatory accounts, or simply subscriber-only walled gardens, access to bandwidth heavy "free" meda content such as game demos, videos, samples of music, or even software support patches or upgrades. In 2003 it has never been harder to get a free copy of a 100mb demo, or high resolution video for a new PC game, or even a popular movie trailer in quality format. Should the web continue to move in this direction? to a point where users need to pay someone (or multiple others) in addition to their ISP for access to enough data to use the media capacity of their home setups? Or should websites and browsers move to endorse something like Bit Torrent, so that any site, no matter how small, can offer anything, without regard to the size?

Compared to fileplanet

I downloaded the Half Life 2 e3 promo video (520mb) via subscriber only File Planet (6 bucks a month), and via Bit Torrent. Performance on both downloads was similar. But the Bit Torrent download was free - plus, I knew that if my connection dropped half way through, I could restart the Bit Torrent download but since the fileplanet download was regular internet explorer, I would lose the file if the connection dropped before it reached 100%. I left the Bit Torrent client open overnight and came back the next day to see that it had gone on to upload a further gigabyte to other people - I had "paid" for my free download by using the otherwise unused upload capacity of my covad line.

Still a few niggles

Bit Torrent is not ready for users who only barely mastered Napster. It takes a little while for the concept to "click", and you have to be resourceful to understand how to find .torrent files - although read any Bit Torrent FAQ and the answers are all there. In addition, although the Bit Torrent network is entirely ad-hoc, with no central point of failure, for a given FILE on the network, there still is a point of failure, or at least unreliability: for every .torrent file offered by a Torrent savvy web server, there must be a "tracker" up. A tracker keeps tabs on which clients currently are "out there" with interest in the file. Like a traffic cop, it keeps the current clients informed about who has what and which IP they are on. If the tracker fails, or the web server offering the file is overloaded, then the downloading process may stall, or timeout.

Pleas in the documentation, and in user feedback left for given files, for people with "complete copies" to stay connected after the download is complete, show that the anti-selfishness built into Bit Torrent is not quite perfect yet. The network works best when a file is both in demand (a number of clients out there with partial copies) and has already been distributed in complete form to a number of clients who have not disconnected. Both of these attributes increase the number of "complete" (seed, in Bit Torrent terminology) and "virtual" (distributed) copies of the file, and therefore increase dramatically the download speed for all. If a file is both old and unpopular (for downloading), it is likely that Bit Torrent will fail to deliver it at all, as there is nobody else willing to offer upload capacity because they are not downloading it. Of course the more users using Bit Torrent, the more it becomes workable for even older files that are still even slightly popular.

[310Rduner]

CONTINUED


Nice legs, shame about the legality

The sad thing about the Bit Torrent project is that despite that it is cool technology, built by a smart guy, used by smart people (its a favorite with the slashdot community), the percentage of copyright material on the network overwhelms the percentage of legitimate material. The .torrent search engines offer all the usual stuff - mp3s, dvd rips, full retail games, porn, full retail software, full operating systems - and only a little bit of freeware or redistributable demoware. So who does an RIAA member sue? more difficult than Napster, more difficult than Kazaa even - they have to sue the IP address of anyone offering a seed copy at any point in time. Suing the website hosting a .torrent file - a file about a file - would be difficult, and at best would only stamp on one version of one file. Suing a website that indexes websites that hold .torrent files would also be as hard as suing google. No wonder Bit Torrent calls those who participate in sharing a file a "swarm"!

Why all the copyright files when there are so many hard to get zero cost files as well? partly of course because piracy is a hobby for half the geeks under 30, but partly because the websites who deal with large files, and would most benefit from adopting Bit Torrent for their users, are pretty slow at updating their ways (and web technology), or, have decided charging for large media files that should be free (gamespy fileplanet, gamespot, ign, etc) is an interesting revenue stream. Shame on them. I hope that the owners of the copyright on these heavy files... PC game makers, movie makers, musicians, software companies, hollywood... realize that the technology now exists to distribute their products without giving it to middlemen who wish to charge a toll for access in return for inefficient 1 to many download capacity, and consider offering files directly on their sites via Bit Torrent. Once setup, such technology costs them nothing, and the resulting increase in demand for upload capacity by ISP customers, who would share these files, would drive much needed cheaper and faster bandwidth for all users, instead of concentrating it in the hands of a few uber download sites that demand your credit card.

[Punk'd]

Originally posted by Shift_DVS
downloading music is the devil

lmao..