Toy Haulers

[Max400]

Does anyone have a Toy hauler ( a travel trailer where the back has a ramp that opens up so you can put your quads inside)?

What are some good ones? Gear box has some nice ones, but kind of pricey......

[kj400]

We have a 20ft tahoe transport now and it is pretty nice,but it has the popout on the front(wouldn't recomend a popout).For the money the thor models seem to give the best value.

[Rescueme]

Have a FB2200 Weekend Warrior. Hauls 3 full size quads, Excellent floor plan, very comfortable. Best of all it has a 36 gal. gas tank (if you don't need to run race fuel). Its kinda nice just to pull up and pump your gas instead of carrying around 4 or 5 jugs of gas. Looked around for a long time trying to decide which was best. This was the best for me. There are alot of new ones with some really tricked out stuff though. Good luck

[Max400]

I have a 2001 Dodge 1500 with a 360. and tow pkg. How big of toy hauler can I pull with that? I pulled my s-185 Bobcat on a 16' trailer with it but I would not have liked pulling it up in the mountians. the Bobcat weighed 6500 lbs. and the trailer weighed 2500 lbs.

[Max400]

wouldn't recomend a popout


Why wouldn't you get a pop out?

[Bad Habit]

Here's our home-away-from-home. 33' Tahoe Transport. I've had 4 full size quads and one mini in it at the same time. Better have a big truck though. Mine is right around 11,000# fully loaded with food, gear and quads. Has generator, 25gal fuel tank with pump station, more than enough room to sleep 5 guys (i guess 10 if you're "friendly") and tons of storage space. We are adding the dinette to ours, something I would recommend looking at, to make it more convenient inside.

We love our Tahoe, but lots more manufacturers are making toy hauler models now. The Tailgator made by Keystone may be the best value that I have seen. But they are Extremely heavy when compared to similar models.

Go here (http://www.rvtraderonline.com) and look around at what is available. The have a manufacturers section with links to website.

[kj400]

The popout is just like sleeping in a tent, If you sit up your head gets wet from it sweating and when it gets windy you feel it just like a tent. Dont get me wrong this is just personal opinion, It is great way to make room for all the features you get in just 20ft.

[jgfarmsracer]

Originally posted by Bad Habit
Here's our home-away-from-home. 33' Tahoe Transport. I've had 4 full size quads and one mini in it at the same time. Better have a big truck though. Mine is right around 11,000# fully loaded with food, gear and quads. Has generator, 25gal fuel tank with pump station, more than enough room to sleep 5 guys (i guess 10 if you're "friendly") and tons of storage space. We are adding the dinette to ours, something I would recommend looking at, to make it more convenient inside.

We love our Tahoe, but lots more manufacturers are making toy hauler models now. The Tailgator made by Keystone may be the best value that I have seen. But they are Extremely heavy when compared to similar models.

Go here (http://www.rvtraderonline.com) and look around at what is available. The have a manufacturers section with links to website.

hey i see you have the gooseneck/fifth wheel adaptor
i had one of those and i broke a weld on the pin box,but mine was a bad welding job

[popo]

Originally posted by Max400
I have a 2001 Dodge 1500 with a 360. and tow pkg. How big of toy hauler can I pull with that? I pulled my s-185 Bobcat on a 16' trailer with it but I would not have liked pulling it up in the mountians. the Bobcat weighed 6500 lbs. and the trailer weighed 2500 lbs.

I have the same truck, but a 2002. You will kill that truck pulling a toy hauler. Most weigh above 5,000 lbs. I pull a 16 ft enclosed trailer. You maybe able to pull your bobcat around town, get a heavy toy hauler and you will be disapointed. Get a 3/4 ton.

[Max400]

Yeah Popo, I frgured that I couldn't pull to much with the 1500. I live in the Valley and my truck would not have pulled the Bobcat up hills. But I have seen some 18' ultra lite toy haulers with tent style pop outs that weigh around 4500 lbs. just wondering if mine would pull one of those with 2 quads??????? I'd hate to have to get another truck:( but I should have got a 3/4 ton in the first place.

[seatec]

Bad Habit. what kind of fifth wheel hich do you have?
I was looking at the fifth wheel toy box trailers but i also want to use my truckbed just for the quad so i need to be able to get the hitch out with some conveniance. i also only have a 6 foot bed but you can get a slider hitch for that.

[YLW400]

Max, I am not sure what the towing capacity is on the Dodge, but with a 4500lb trailer and 2 quads..say approx 5300lbs......any other cargo......500-700lbs....now your at 6000....The capacity is probably around 7,000...guessing..that might be a little low..If it is flat where you are, it might not be too awfully bad, but if there is so much as a foothill, I would think you would be hurting....

[TheWolf]

Keep them coming.... please list brands, model and pics if you have. The options it had and price if you don't mind(was it new or used)

Thanks

[Mikey]

I have a Warrior 19' Superlite. Sleeps 4 has all the options and can carry 2 quads flat or 3 standing up. I pulled it with a F150 Supercrew without any problems. It is 3500 lbs dry. I figure 6500 with gas, water, bikes and supplies. I paid $14,500 for it with out a generator. With a 1/2 ton truck you should look for the new "lite" models that everyone is building for light trucks and SUVs. Here is a link to mine
http://warriormfg.com/Models/lite04.htm

[Max400]

Mickey, Thanks for the info. and everyone that has replied, this is starting to be a good thread with good info these Toy Haulers are getting popular. Anyway Mickey with your trailer do you take it up in the hills? I know that 75% of Calif. is flat but all the good riding places are in the mountians, where do you ride at?and does it pull well up hills?

[Max400]

Mickey those are sweet! does the 18' come with a bathroom? they didn't show floor plans for the 18'

[Mikey]

I race desert in a 1600 car so, I go out twice a month to Lucerne and Barstow. That means up the Cajon Pass (4000ft). The F150 with a 5.4 pulled it hard up the pass. 60-65mph @ 4400 rpm, if nothing got in my way! 45-50mph if there was "traffic". I bought a Super Duty v10 and it doesn't even know the trailer is behind it! Last time up the Cajon I did 75mph in Vegas traffic.

[Mikey]

Originally posted by Max400
Mickey those are sweet! does the 18' come with a bathroom? they didn't show floor plans for the 18'

Yes, it is fully loaded. Full bathroom with toilet, sink and shower.
Not a straddle shower, but a full shower! Dig around these sites www.warriormfg.com or www.giantrv.com for more info.

[TheWolf]

This IS going to be a very good thread if it keeps up. Also thanks to everyone who posts website links to their trailer manufacturer. That helps alot because their are so many diff manufacturers. It makes it easy to find and get some info.

Now, Do the one most of you are talking about have the cargo(storage area) that the atv's store in combined with the living area or are they separate? I don't like the ones that are combined because to be able to sleep(most have fold down cots on the side) you have to remove the atv's ..That means they could be easily stolen/tampered with while you sleep. So if you have one of these how do you protect your atv's while you sleep overnight.?
I like the ones that are separate so you can lock up the atv's inside and then go through a door and be separated from them and sleep/rest.

[popo]

Originally posted by YLW400
Max, I am not sure what the towing capacity is on the Dodge, but with a 4500lb trailer and 2 quads..say approx 5300lbs......any other cargo......500-700lbs....now your at 6000....The capacity is probably around 7,000...guessing..that might be a little low..If it is flat where you are, it might not be too awfully bad, but if there is so much as a foothill, I would think you would be hurting....

It's bad trust me. Dodge has no power

[YLW400]

my father-in-law has the 318.now thats bad...

[brif]

Originally posted by popo
It's bad trust me. Dodge has no power Hey popo, I would check your trucks gear ratio(located on a tag in the glove box) I bet your poor performance is because of your gear ratio. Do you have 3.55 gears? They suck for towing anything. If you have 3.92's you shouldn't have problems towing 6000lbs. If you have 3.55 I'd replace them with 4.10's or trade pick-ups gear changes on 4x4 isn't cheap but well worth it. I've had 3.55, and 4.10 gear ratio's in my last 5 rams and the milage sucks with 4.10's but's the best way to go. Now I have to same some money and put some 4.10's in my hemi.

[Max400]

It's bad trust me. Dodge has no power

Hey Popo, I hear ya about a 1/2 ton not having the pulling capacity of a 3/4 ton but isn't the 360 the same in the 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton? and the trans the same?...so the only thing different is the suspension the drive line, brakes and towing cap. the only thing that differs between the 1/2 and 3/4 ton?
So is it just under powered or just the towing cap. the would put a strain on the 1/2 ton. I guess I need to get a 3/4 but if you only take it to the hills 6 times a years would it really be that hard on the 1/2. just curious, I've always wondered about the exact diff. between the 1/2 and 3/4 that makes the 3/4 towing cap. so much higher. also with a 1/2 ton what could you pull if you can't pull a small lite weight trailer? why doe it come with a tow pkg. ?:)

[popo]

Originally posted by brif
Hey popo, I would check your trucks gear ratio(located on a tag in the glove box) I bet your poor performance is because of your gear ratio. Do you have 3.55 gears? They suck for towing anything. If you have 3.92's you shouldn't have problems towing 6000lbs. If you have 3.55 I'd replace them with 4.10's or trade pick-ups gear changes on 4x4 isn't cheap but well worth it. I've had 3.55, and 4.10 gear ratio's in my last 5 rams and the milage sucks with 4.10's but's the best way to go. Now I have to same some money and put some 4.10's in my hemi.

I have 3.92 gears. I don't think having 20" tires helps either. The truck can pull ok, just get sick of pulling a trailer with the overdrive off and taching 3000 Rpm and getting 6 mpg.

One note, Make sure you replace the diff fluid with synthetic, Dodge forgot the mention that in the owners manual and I blew out a rear diff with only 1,500 miles on the truck.

What's sad is, Dodge trade vaule stinks. $37,000.00 truck new and 2 years later with only 22,000 miles is worth 14,000.00

[Max400]

I have to check my gear ratio but mine sucks in the gas milage dept. I get about 11 city and 14 hwy at 80 mph. not towing anything, but if it is just a gas mileage thing and my truck will pull it then I'll pay the extra gas, that's less than selling this truck and buying a new one. 37,000:eek2: :eek2: mines a 2001 quad cab 4x4 with 360 and power everthing and spotless. I bought it with 26,000 mi. for 21,000.......thats why I'm hoping it will pull that toy hauler, I don't want to spend that much on a new truck just to pull my trailer a few times a year. I'll just pay the extra gas.

[Max400]

Anyone else pull a trailer with a 1/2 ton? how does it do?

[popo]

Originally posted by brif
Hey popo, I would check your trucks gear ratio(located on a tag in the glove box) I bet your poor performance is because of your gear ratio. Do you have 3.55 gears? They suck for towing anything. If you have 3.92's you shouldn't have problems towing 6000lbs. If you have 3.55 I'd replace them with 4.10's or trade pick-ups gear changes on 4x4 isn't cheap but well worth it. I've had 3.55, and 4.10 gear ratio's in my last 5 rams and the milage sucks with 4.10's but's the best way to go. Now I have to same some money and put some 4.10's in my hemi.

True, but I don't think there as much strain on the truck with3/4 ton.

My biggest complaint is on flat roads. With the O/D on it dropping shifting in and out of gears & trying to get somewhere is a pain.

That's why a diesel is in the future.

[MOFO]

I've never pulled an enclosed trailer, but I have pulled a dual axle trailer loaded with 5 quads on it with mine in the bed. I used my 1999 Chevy 1/2 ton (new bodystyle) with a 5.3 and 3.73 rears (with tow/haul on - keeps tranny in the lower gear longer)...The 5.3 likes higher RPMS, but pulled it pretty good. My gas mileage was around 12mpg for highway pulling with some good hills in WV. Not sure if I'd want to pull much more weight for a long trip, but for what I do, it works great.

BTW, I normally get 17mpg highway unloaded...

[Doibugu2]

Popo you going to trade it in for $14k? If I can get rid of my Acura, I would definatly take that.

My little brother might even take it for that.

[Bad Habit]

Originally posted by seatec
Bad Habit. what kind of fifth wheel hich do you have?
I was looking at the fifth wheel toy box trailers but i also want to use my truckbed just for the quad so i need to be able to get the hitch out with some conveniance. i also only have a 6 foot bed but you can get a slider hitch for that.

As you can see in the pic, I have my fifth wheel converted to a gooseneck. It can be unbolted and turned back into a fifth wheel in about 5 minutes. The gooseneck ball I have is from here (http://www.turnoverball.com/). It lifts out of a receiver and turns over so it's flush with the bed. If you look at their site, they also have a fifth wheel plate that will mount into the receiver that can be taken out with the pull of one pin. That is the perfect answer IMO. You get the ability to pull both types of trailers, and you can have your bed totally unubstructed when needed very quickly.

[Bad Habit]

Originally posted by TheWolf
Now, Do the one most of you are talking about have the cargo(storage area) that the atv's store in combined with the living area or are they separate? I don't like the ones that are combined because to be able to sleep(most have fold down cots on the side) you have to remove the atv's ..That means they could be easily stolen/tampered with while you sleep. So if you have one of these how do you protect your atv's while you sleep overnight.?
I like the ones that are separate so you can lock up the atv's inside and then go through a door and be separated from them and sleep/rest.

The only problem I saw with the "garage" type campers is that 95% of them only had 10 feet of storage space. At around 96" wide inside (at the most) this really limits how many quads you can get in there. Motorcycles would be fine, but I would have to stand up quads on end to get more than 3 in there. And if you stood them on end, you would be putting way too much weight all on the back end of the trailer.

Just my observations.

[kj400]

We had a 02 silverado 1/2 ton when we bought ours, On our first trip we went east of the mountains to Moses lake, about 3/4 of the way up the pass i was doing 40 at 5000 rpm.That was about the time i looked at my wife and said we're getting a diesel.The tahoes are heavy, mine is 4800lbs dry,but the diesel doesnt feel it .

[jgfarmsracer]

hey bad habit you do any racing? where?

[BSTURDIVANT]

We have a work and play, 20' -12' cargo, 8' kitchen with shower/ commode. weighs 4500 empty.
Pulls easilly with 1/2 ton Tahoe 5.3.
Will haul 3 quads sideways and you can sleep with top 2 bunks down. Thermostat controled heat, roof air.

This one for sale 11,000.00- getting 28' because we now need to haul 4 quads with 3/4 ton HD diesel!

[jgfarmsracer]

Originally posted by BSTURDIVANT
We have a work and play, 20' -12' cargo, 8' kitchen with shower/ commode. weighs 4500 empty.
Pulls easilly with 1/2 ton Tahoe 5.3.
Will haul 3 quads sideways and you can sleep with top 2 bunks down. Thermostat controled heat, roof air.

This one for sale 11,000.00- getting 28' because we now need to haul 4 quads with 3/4 ton HD diesel!

what are you giving for the 28'

i'm close to closing a deal on a new 04 unless they can find me an 03

[Mr.Offroad]

I just bought an '04 Bayhauler 24' toybox the end of summer. I have an '89 Ford 7.3 natural aspirated diesel, with 4:10 gears and a 5 speed stick, and it pulls the guts out of it on Snoqualamie Pass (which ain't even a real pass). We got home and weighed it, and I was shocked to see it weighs 7 grand, bone dry empty. It weighs 1000 lbs. just on the tongue, empty. Now mine is fully loaded with A.C., Onan 4000 generator, gas station, microwave, full bath, and air compressor, but it also has storage for 110 gal. of fresh water. Could you imagine filling those tanks and pulling it? Next step is a Powerstroke for me. By the way, we paid $20,000 for it. That's the going rate for that type of trailer in this area, we shopped a lot.

[kj400]

Offroad,

Where did you find the bayhauler at? I haven't seen them yet.

[Bad Habit]

Originally posted by jgfarmsracer
hey bad habit you do any racing? where?

No, no racing for me, just recreational riding. Sand would defenitely rank up top on my list of bad habits. Although I have considered entering a harescramble just to see what's up. I've run a little on MX tracks, again just for giggles. Never been in an "organized" race.

[Mr.Offroad]

Originally posted by kj400
Offroad,

Where did you find the bayhauler at? I haven't seen them yet. Picked it up at Valley R,V. in Mt. Vernon. Real nice folks. We went to all the R.V. dealers from Puyallup North to the Canadian border, and they had by far the best deal on the best quality trailer.

[Mr.Offroad]

:eek2: :huh

[BSTURDIVANT]

28' Work and Play with all the goodies 19500 when we pick it up plus tax and title.

[TheWolf]

^^^^up we go...


Keep this going, there are more people out there with some.

Anyone know of a place that carries lots of USED trailers to choose from. Most places only have new ones, is there a place you know of that always has lots of good used trailers to look at. Especially in the PA area

[whitezryder]

2004 29' Thor Jazz Frenzy

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