Pantyhose over your airbox with no lid???

Has anybody tried this? does it work well enough to keep the filter clean. I like the idea of a outerware lid, but I was just trying to save a few $$$$. Thanks for your replys, Judd

[4punksdad]

this is what I went with........it is wedding dress material.........very stiff almost equal to an outerwears airbox cover material. Notice how I siliconed it on the outside (this lets water & mud run off) then stretched a piece on the inside (only the lid holds it in place).

This keeps the filter WAY drier & cleaner than the 20.00 outerwears cover.

cost = 6.00

[EXtreme-]

you could call that an Underware lid....lol

[4punksdad]

LOL........yeah, you could call it that. I call it cheap & funcional.

on a serious note........I wanted more airflow so I removed my airbox lid. The problems were vast. Water & mud entered every time I ran through a mud puddle. I had to clean the filter every ride, and sometimes twice.

so I bought the outerwears lid for 15.00 + shipping. The lid was designed to be held on with velcro. The velcro was hard to get attached properly, time consuming & it didn't stay glued to the airbox.

so I cut the entire top out of my airbox & used the lid to hold the outerwears in place........this worked ok & looked great but the filter was still getting wet from splash water. I found that whatever entered the cavity between the lid & outerwear had NO place to go. It would eventually seep through the outerwear & onto the filter.

so I got a new lid & went to work on a new design. I noticed that the airbox lid was pitched toward the front of the bike which could act as its own "run off" device. If I could keep the splash water running off before it could run it, I would have it licked. I kept all of the drilled holes behind the filter location & it seems to be working great. Last time I pulled the lid (after some serious water crossings) there wasn't ONE drop of water in the airbox. I don't even think the second piece of fabric stretched on the inside is necessary. NOTE.....the scotchgard on the fabric is the key.

Hey 3Punksdad, do you think it would work if you attached that wedding dress material (or the outerwear lid for that matter) to the outside of the lid that has one big hole in it? That way water would run off with the slant, and you would still get better air flow. whatcha think? Judd

[4punksdad]

Originally posted by Judd
Hey 3Punksdad, do you think it would work if you attached that wedding dress material (or the outerwear lid for that matter) to the outside of the lid that has one big hole in it? That way water would run off with the slant, and you would still get better air flow. whatcha think? Judd

yes.........I do.........in fact, thats what I had set out to do...........however, the outerwears lid is too big to be velcro attached to the lid, yet too small to be wrapped over the lid & tucked inside on the edges. I tried the dress fabric over the lid but could not stretch it tight enough to be functional. If you find a way to do it, please share!

this is the best I could come up with. As you can see I am holding it up by my finger tips.........it is stretched fairly tight. Silicone holds the edges of this one too.........I will try it out soon.

[4punksdad]

Originally posted by 3punksdad


yes.........I do.........in fact, thats what I had set out to do...........however, the outerwears lid is too big to be velcro attached to the lid, yet too small to be wrapped over the lid & tucked inside on the edges. I tried the dress fabric over the lid but could not stretch it tight enough to be functional. If you find a way to do it, please share!

this is the best I could come up with. As you can see I am holding it up by my finger tips.........it is stretched fairly tight. Silicone holds the edges of this one too.........I will try it out soon.

Hey 3punksdad, Do you have a place to get used lids? I know thay are only like $7.50 new. Also how well does that wedding dress material breath? After using it do you suggest it or have any other ideas on what type of fabric might be better? did i read that you scotchguarded the fabric? didnt that clog up the pores in the fabric? I think I am going to the fabric store tommorrow, So I'll let you know what i come up with.
~ I guess I'll have to rejet with all the extra air flow(I just have a stock filter).
~what about the air tube that runs around the carb to the air box? That thing has got to be restrictive. Does anybody know of a safe modification to that tube? Maybe that would be a good place for those little "Lid Filters". Whatdaya think???

if you are going to run the modified lid i suggest removing the snorkel and replacing it with a cap....nac's racing sells them for likr 8 dollars and they are aluminum.

[4punksdad]

Originally posted by Judd
Hey 3punksdad, Do you have a place to get used lids? I know thay are only like $7.50 new. Also how well does that wedding dress material breath? After using it do you suggest it or have any other ideas on what type of fabric might be better? did i read that you scotchguarded the fabric? didnt that clog up the pores in the fabric? I think I am going to the fabric store tommorrow, So I'll let you know what i come up with.
~ I guess I'll have to rejet with all the extra air flow(I just have a stock filter).
~what about the air tube that runs around the carb to the air box? That thing has got to be restrictive. Does anybody know of a safe modification to that tube? Maybe that would be a good place for those little "Lid Filters". Whatdaya think???

I don't think there is any advantage to removing the snorkel or making modifications to it for that matter. Just leave it alone in case you want to run a stock lid some day.

The wedding dress material was the closest thing I could find to the outerwears fabric. The ladies in the store were not very helpful. If you find something better, post it on this thread.
The scotchgard doesn't clog the material.......it kinda soaks into the fabric. Once it dries, you can't even tell it has been treated.

[crday98]

hey 3 punksdad and judd,i think your wives are gonna be pretty pis*ed off when they find out you guys are cutting apart their dresses to modify your ariboxes:D J/K.

[JabberJaw]

Should be no problem, once you get married, they sorta get used to you messing with the box.

[4punksdad]

Originally posted by JabberJaw
Should be no problem, once you get married, they sorta get used to you messing with the box.

LOL.you must not be married..........truth is, when you get married, all that stops!

[JabberJaw]

I wish you were wrong! :-)

[4punksdad]

I decided to switch to my other modified lid today. We hit some of the usual mud, deep water, and lots of dust. It held up really well. Here is a pic of it mounted. I ran the outerwears lid under it for added protection.

how would u get it to hold on to the edges?

I just used tub and tile silicone caulk.
I finally got another lid to try this on. I havent tried it yet, but I'll let you know what I think.

HEY 3PUNKSDAD-
Did you rejet your carb for this added airflow? I am concerned I will be running too lean. I still have the stock jetting for now. :(

[4punksdad]

Originally posted by Judd
I just used tub and tile silicone caulk.
I finally got another lid to try this on. I havent tried it yet, but I'll let you know what I think.

HEY 3PUNKSDAD-
Did you rejet your carb for this added airflow? I am concerned I will be running too lean. I still have the stock jetting for now. :(

yes, I rejetted.
but only after I completely removed the rear baffle plate in the exhaust too. I am up from a stock 148 to a 165 main jet.

You call it extra air flow... I call it cross dressing. J/K
I used the outerware cut it an glued it to my air box lid, similar to yours.

[JabberJaw]

Be sure to not use the crotchless panty hose!