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250EXpwns
01-04-2004, 03:20 PM
Which one is better?

250EXking
01-04-2004, 03:48 PM
250ex, no doubt:D

Bob-Hobo
01-04-2004, 03:55 PM
I liked my 300ex until i started racing, and supposedly the 250x has a lil more power, and it lighter. Liked my recon too and it had crappier suspension and less power plus it weighed more. But i would take an X over the 250ex.

250EXpwns
01-04-2004, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Bob-Hobo
I liked my 300ex until i started racing, and supposedly the 250x has a lil more power, and it lighter. Liked my recon too and it had crappier suspension and less power plus it weighed more. But i would take an X over the 250ex.
250x has more power than 300ex?! Woah! Gotta get one of those.

nismo
01-04-2004, 04:36 PM
the X would smoke a 250ex. a 250X is the same as a 300ex just different strokes i beleive.

Matt756
01-04-2004, 05:38 PM
250x no doubt

Cody_300ex
01-04-2004, 06:03 PM
250x

BIGRED400
01-04-2004, 06:11 PM
My son had an 250Ex and seen a 250X stomp him!!!Ouch Son...........he now has a 2003 CR85:p ;) :) :D :cool:

ghak99
01-04-2004, 07:27 PM
250x by a long shot. check out my sig. and see whick one is selling. The 250ex is a great starter quad or a good quad for a nonracer......sorry for slamming all you 250ex owners!

Bob-Hobo
01-04-2004, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by 250EXpwns
250x has more power than 300ex?! Woah! Gotta get one of those. If you are being sarcastic, i dont know that the x has more power than a 300ex or what. But they are a little lighter since they dont have a battery or starter. But thats only a whole 8 pounds prolly at most.

TCracin440ex
01-04-2004, 08:43 PM
dude actually the 250x is not really much lighter than the 300ex....i have a 92 250x and a 300ex...along wi th my 400ex...but the 250x will stay toe to toe with the 300ex if you got the right rider....but far as a 250ex vs 250x...please 250x is a manny!....and the 250ex is auto clutch with 2 valves, and it dont ahve an over head cam it uses pushrods.....

ryanh250ex
01-05-2004, 10:54 AM
250x > 250ex.

300exthumperluv
01-05-2004, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by TCracin440ex
and the 250ex is auto clutch with 2 valves, and it dont ahve an over head cam it uses pushrods.....

And in response to a 250x having more power than a ex.....NO.

250X is 15hp stock, 300ex is 17hp. Theres a chart on the web somewhere to verify this. Blaster has 20 hp :( , but thats cuz its 2 stroke.

redrider69
01-05-2004, 01:20 PM
250X is 15hp stock, 300ex is 17hp. Theres a chart on the web somewhere to verify this. Blaster has 20 hp , but thats cuz its 2 stroke.

i dont kno if i can belive all that

300exthumperluv
01-05-2004, 01:40 PM
I'll just look again now. The thing is with all you, is you play "bench racing" and I do numbers. I have all this stuff in excel sheets categorized by produced numbers. But, what do I know, I'm just a Mechanical Engineer.

Here's the closest I can find right now at work-
http://forums.atvconnection.com/messageview.cfm/catid/13/threadid/371652.cfm

This will help give "real" guides for what quads put out stock. Hell, theres a modded banshee puttin out 52hp, dynoed. Also take a look at the blaster post from the guy who owns a dyno, and what it does stock and is capable of...

stonerider250x
01-05-2004, 03:44 PM
the 250x and 300ex are pretty much the same with the same size piston but the 250x has a smaller stroke. The 250x's CDI box allows it to rev 100 rpm's higher. and the 250x is lighter but not by much. As far as 250x vs. 250ex goes the 250x is way better. ive draged raced a 250ex and a blaster and beat both.

300exthumperluv
01-05-2004, 04:05 PM
I wish I knew the different stroke sizes.

WickedRider
01-05-2004, 04:19 PM
wish i had something faster to ride. i should have got the 300 instead. :( its only like $600 more. i regret getting a 250. i rode a predator last weekend, & riding w/ a clutch is way better i think. took me about 10min to get use to it.

250EXpwns
01-05-2004, 04:21 PM
Does anyone have the specs for a 250x and a 300ex? Just wanna see a comparason.

TCracin440ex
01-05-2004, 05:14 PM
not to diss a 250ex or nadda....but i think 250ex's are proally the weakest honda sport quad ever put out...in stead of payin 3899 for a 250ex i woulda put like a few more hundred down and got a 300ex.....i mean the 250ex has a recon motor...perfect for a kid bout 12 years old...but if your over 12...forget it....get a 300ex

250EXpwns
01-05-2004, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by TCracin440ex
not to diss a 250ex or nadda....but i think 250ex's are proally the weakest honda sport quad ever put out...in stead of payin 3899 for a 250ex i woulda put like a few more hundred down and got a 300ex.....i mean the 250ex has a recon motor...perfect for a kid bout 12 years old...but if your over 12...forget it....get a 300ex
That's true but you have to realize most people don't have that kind of budget. If you have alot of money you could make an awesome quad but if you're like me you just have scratch. :(

TCracin440ex
01-05-2004, 05:27 PM
yea...but if i was gonna get a quad b4 id go buy a slow new 1 id go buy a used faster quad.....

ill sell my 400ex if the price is right

i had an offer of 4800.00 for my bike the other day

Out_Sider
01-05-2004, 05:44 PM
250x.....250ex...the ex is junk. i mean no offense to those who own one, but dayum ppl! wat is like a couple more hundred dollars more a 3x's better quad? sorry if i pissed anyone off by sayin that. i raced the same 250ex that stonerider250x raced....and i just blew him away..even tho i have a couple "little" mods :rolleyes: 1 thing i do like about 250ex's is how they look..i like there body style :p

250EXpwns
01-05-2004, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Out_Sider
250x.....250ex...the ex is junk. i mean no offense to those who own one, but dayum ppl! wat is like a couple more hundred dollars more a 3x's better quad? sorry if i pissed anyone off by sayin that. i raced the same 250ex that stonerider250x raced....and i just blew him away..even tho i have a couple "little" mods :rolleyes: 1 thing i do like about 250ex's is how they look..i like there body style :p
If you like the style you ought to see (or ask your dealer!) if the motor will fit in a 250ex frame. That would be sharp!:D

Out_Sider
01-05-2004, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by 250EXpwns
If you like the style you ought to see (or ask your dealer!) if the motor will fit in a 250ex frame. That would be sharp!:D

maybe... i'd have to modify alot of things for that tho...completly different swing arm..and all that. maybe i could custom rig some 250ex plastic on my 300ex frame :blah:

Out_Sider
01-05-2004, 05:59 PM
if i could put the 250ex plastic on.....my quad would be the biggest sleeper ever! :D lol

250EXpwns
01-05-2004, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Out_Sider
if i could put the 250ex plastic on.....my quad would be the biggest sleeper ever! :D lol
Hey, personally I love the plastic on the 250ex, just wish they would have made a better 250 to put the plastic on! :blah:

Out_Sider
01-05-2004, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by 250EXpwns
Hey, personally I love the plastic on the 250ex, just wish they would have made a better 250 to put the plastic on! :blah:

true

stonerider250x
01-05-2004, 06:27 PM
That's true but you have to realize most people don't have that kind of budget. If you have alot of money you could make an awesome quad but if you're like me you just have scratch.



:huh i got my 250x for $1100 and i dusted the 250ex i draged

Bob-Hobo
01-05-2004, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by TCracin440ex
yea...but if i was gonna get a quad b4 id go buy a slow new 1 id go buy a used faster quad.....

ill sell my 400ex if the price is right

i had an offer of 4800.00 for my bike the other day Damn, id sell mine lickity split for that much. Thats prolly over a thousand what even more modified 400's seem to go for.

300exthumperluv
01-06-2004, 01:03 AM
I'm glad to see this kept civil, as one would expect to see flaming and such, but most points are correct. The 250ex is designed for one kind of riding, and the other (250x) is designed for more aggressive riding and experienced riders. Comparing the two is like apples and oranges.

Now, comparing a 250x to a 300ex would be interesting to find out the little details. For one, I didn't know the 250x revved 100 rpm higher than the 300ex. But I did quote true numbers on the hp in my previous post.

kxrider
01-06-2004, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by nismo
the X would smoke a 250ex. a 250X is the same as a 300ex just different strokes i beleive.


my neighbor has a 250x with pipe and that stuff, i had my 250ex with pipe and stuff and 20 inch tires, and i beat him always on the road, adn dirt, until i sold it and moved on now i really beat him

300exthumperluv
01-06-2004, 01:22 PM
Your gearing is higher with those tires, hence the extra top end.

kxrider
01-06-2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by 300exthumperluv
Your gearing is higher with those tires, hence the extra top end.

ha ha ha you gota be kiddi me i said i got 20 inch tires stock is 22 so if i go down on my tire size it gave me more top end, what kinda crack r u smokin:rolleyes:

300exthumperluv
01-06-2004, 01:55 PM
MY bad. Either way, your 250ex won't smoke a 250x unless its mad tired, so you're on crack. Must have been one tired old 250x for you to beat it.

rideREDrider
01-06-2004, 03:43 PM
i have a 250x and im really getting tired of it cus of the lack of power and speed but i got it for $1400 and id much rather have that than pay $3700 for the ex and have even less power i can still beat the little thing, the only thing better about the ex than the X is that its probably gonna be more reliable than an X because it is 16 years newer. either way GO FOR THE 250X

stonerider250x
01-06-2004, 07:09 PM
my neighbor has a 250x with pipe and that stuff, i had my 250ex with pipe and stuff and 20 inch tires, and i beat him always on the road, adn dirt, until i sold it and moved on now i really beat him


In some cases it dont matter what the quad is powered like but how good the driver is. If u put a really sucky driver on a good quad and a good driver on a really sucky quad the good rider with the sucky quad will prolly win. this must be one of those cases. Cuz ur crazy if u think a 250ex will beat a 250x:huh

300exthumperluv
01-07-2004, 12:07 AM
Good point. I could smoke my dad on a Blaster *if* he had a fast quad like a Raptor or Banshee. Furthermore, if your ego is boosted by beating a 16-12 year old tired quad with your new one, then its just ignorance. I'd love to see Honda bust a stored 250X FRESH out of the crate against a new FRESH out of the crate Recon. I think the results would be silly.

This post couldn't get any more dumb than if it were comparing the 250X to the 300EX, honestly.

kxrider
01-07-2004, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by stonerider250x
In some cases it dont matter what the quad is powered like but how good the driver is. If u put a really sucky driver on a good quad and a good driver on a really sucky quad the good rider with the sucky quad will prolly win. this must be one of those cases. Cuz ur crazy if u think a 250ex will beat a 250x:huh

look man i hate to burst you little bubble, ,but the 300ex only puts out 1.4hp moer than a 250ex, and since a 250x is a 300ex with smaller stroke it has less hp ok you gettin me so far, ,and since a 250x is so old if it is stock motor it has lost quite a bit of compression, still followin me, so a 250x proly puts out same or less hp than a new 250ex

TCracin440ex
01-07-2004, 01:39 PM
KX...i call BULL SHYT.....a 250ex....is a auto clutch, it dont have an over head cam...it has a pos 2 vavles....its a damn recon with restyled plastics...a 250x on the other hand...4 valves, a over head cam and manuel transmission.....if you think a 250ex will beat a 250x...your wrong...my 250x had alot of power up untill the day i took it apart and started parting it out....

stonerider250x
01-07-2004, 02:15 PM
look man i hate to burst you little bubble, ,but the 300ex only puts out 1.4hp moer than a 250ex, and since a 250x is a 300ex with smaller stroke it has less hp ok you gettin me so far, ,and since a 250x is so old if it is stock motor it has lost quite a bit of compression, still followin me, so a 250x proly puts out same or less hp than a new 250ex


aight man w/e u think what u wanna and ill think what i wanna. but this guy made this thread to learn sumthing and find out witch is better not to here pll fighten like little girls.

kxrider
01-07-2004, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by TCracin440ex
KX...i call BULL SHYT.....a 250ex....is a auto clutch, it dont have an over head cam...it has a pos 2 vavles....its a damn recon with restyled plastics...a 250x on the other hand...4 valves, a over head cam and manuel transmission.....if you think a 250ex will beat a 250x...your wrong...my 250x had alot of power up untill the day i took it apart and started parting it out....

call watever u want i dont care im tellin u how it went down i beat him more than once, and i think i still got dyno runs layin round my dads somwere and i will scan them if i can find them and i also know someone with a recon and gimme a break they dont even compare have u ever ridin a 250ex

300exthumperluv
01-07-2004, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by 300exthumperluv
I'm glad to see this kept civil, as one would expect to see flaming and such, but most points are correct. The 250ex is designed for one kind of riding, and the other (250x) is designed for more aggressive riding and experienced riders. Comparing the two is like apples and oranges.

Now, comparing a 250x to a 300ex would be interesting to find out the little details. For one, I didn't know the 250x revved 100 rpm higher than the 300ex. But I did quote true numbers on the hp in my previous post.

I stand corrected, this is a flame war. TCRacin440ex couldn't have said it better.

TCracin440ex
01-07-2004, 03:03 PM
we arent starting a war....we are simply stating facts....honda 250ex is the most suck dik sport quad ever made....the engineers at honda musta had the kids in mind...or the faint hearted

stonerider250x
01-07-2004, 04:07 PM
we are simply stating facts....honda 250ex is the most suck dik sport quad ever made...


ROTFLMAO:D thats a true fact there:blah:

300exthumperluv
01-07-2004, 04:13 PM
I think its a bit harsh to say "suck dick" quad, but it fits the context of this post. All I gotta remark is the 250EX is designed for a certain group of entry level riders and the 250X caters to a recreational/play-race group of riders. I have owned a 250X and my sig is my current ride, but I feel that there is major BIAS coming from the 250EX owners. I LMAO at the guy who said he actually dynoed his 250.

TCracin440ex
01-07-2004, 04:19 PM
i woudlnt bother putting a 250ex on the dyno...i can most likely guess the hp....bout 12 or a lil less...yes they are good for a kid....but like i said b4 if your over the age of 12 ridding a bike that small....u need ta be smacked....i guess honda was thinking about the kids...because if you think about it...the kids quads are only like the most 90cc...and what 12 year old is gonna ride a 90cc he/she will outgrow it too fast....i learned how to ride quads on an ol suzuki 86 125 and my dads honda fourtrax..

TCracin440ex
01-07-2004, 04:20 PM
i woudlnt bother putting a 250ex on the dyno...i can most likely guess the hp....bout 12 or a lil less...yes they are good for a kid....but like i said b4 if your over the age of 12 ridding a bike that small....u need ta be smacked....i guess honda was thinking about the kids...because if you think about it...the kids quads are only like the most 90cc...and what 12 year old is gonna ride a 90cc he/she will outgrow it too fast....i learned how to ride quads on an ol suzuki 86 125 and my dads 250 honda fourtrax..

Out_Sider
01-07-2004, 06:55 PM
dude 250ex's are suck dick quads.... i'll beat dem ******s in 3rd gear..gimme a break. :p

TCracin440ex
01-07-2004, 07:01 PM
i like fuggin with the ppl that ride 250ex's at the mx track....lmao its funny shyt......

250EXpwns
01-07-2004, 07:04 PM
I don't think 250EXs were ever meant to be raced...just...more of a sporty trail-riding Recon.

Out_Sider
01-07-2004, 08:07 PM
then why didnt they leave it as a recon, the 250ex has better suspension than recon, and disk brakes, and sport plastic...so why cant it race?? *cough its sucks cough*

250EXpwns
01-07-2004, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Out_Sider
then why didnt they leave it as a recon, the 250ex has better suspension than recon, and disk brakes, and sport plastic...so why cant it race?? *cough its sucks cough*
If you think the 250ex sucks, then you should try racing a Recon. I know because I used to own one. Now I own a 250ex and I think it's waaaaaay better. Even though it's the same engine the 250ex feels and drives way better.

kxrider
01-08-2004, 04:35 PM
ya 250ex has 11.4 hp










and all u guys wit ur badass 300exs guess wat there pushin 12.6




and 250x i would guess to be less thana 300

300exthumperluv
01-08-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by kxrider


and all u guys wit ur badass 300exs guess wat there pushin 12.6


I say 300ex is 17hp, so I challenge YOU to prove me wrong.

kxrider
01-08-2004, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by 300exthumperluv
I say 300ex is 17hp, so I challenge YOU to prove me wrong.

aihgt homboy im gona waste gas and drive all the way to my dads house just to proov u wrong

wrk24wheel
01-08-2004, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by TCracin440ex
we arent starting a war....we are simply stating facts....honda 250ex is the most suck dik sport quad ever made....the engineers at honda musta had the kids in mind...or the faint hearted

Honestly now, if Honda had a kid in mind, then why the hell did they shock it for 160+lbs? If it were meant for a kid they would have shocked it a lot lighter than that.

Again, this quad was not meant to be raced, it is a sport quad. A great quad for a begginer or someone who wants to putt around. I don't think that they had racing in mind when they designed this thing. I personally like my wifes 250ex and I think it has plenty of power for her now. The way it sits now, she can play around with the big boys. It will definetely keep up, if not actually take a stock 300ex right now.

Get away from the flaming and give the guy some real information that he can use to make a decision.

kxrider
01-08-2004, 05:43 PM
i justed scanned the dynos out of hte atv sport buyers guide 2002, and my boy steve is gona post them up 250ex, has 11.9, 300ex 13.4 or somthin like that


to see them bigger just save them and zoom in on you computer



god it feels good to prove the people who have no idea wat they are talkin about wrong:D

stonerider250x
01-08-2004, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by kxrider
ya 250ex has 11.4 hp
and all u guys wit ur badass 300exs guess wat there pushin 12.6
and 250x i would guess to be less thana 300

:huh sry bro but the 250x has been dynoed and dynoed again to prove that it comes stock with 15 hp at the rear wheels...... so im not sure wear u got ur info from but i belive its wrong...unless my info is wrong and im sure its not.

250EXpwns
01-08-2004, 08:39 PM
Sheesh guys I didn't mean to start a fight. I was just wondering what you thought was the best, no need to get all scientific and stuff. Besides, it's not that big of a deal. I'll probably end up saving up my money a little bit longer and get a 400ex. So just chill. I might be only 15 but I know what I'm talking about.

300exthumperluv
01-09-2004, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by kxrider
aihgt homboy im gona waste gas and drive all the way to my dads house just to proov u wrong

Take a trip to school and learn how to spell.

And...


You're still wrong.

300exthumperluv
01-09-2004, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by stonerider250x
:huh sry bro but the 250x has been dynoed and dynoed again to prove that it comes stock with 15 hp at the rear wheels...... so im not sure wear u got ur info from but i belive its wrong...unless my info is wrong and im sure its not.

I 2nd that notion.

And I will continue to agree that the 300ex is 17hp. Where this "12.whatever" HP rating is totally made up, and your lack of proof just shows your ignorance if you think otherwise. BTW- more votes on this thread show that 250x OWNZ the 250EX so anyone claiming FALSE numbers isn't very helpful.

300exthumperluv
01-09-2004, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by kxrider
i
god it feels good to prove the people who have no idea wat they are talkin about wrong:D

If you just scanned them, where are they? I see NO link to this "magical" info. Don't tell me I'm wrong, then have NO proof to back it up.

300exthumperluv
01-09-2004, 03:21 AM
[IMG]http://www.jeffsgoodtimes.com/pics/thread1.jpg[IMG]

kxrider
01-09-2004, 12:03 PM
i scanned htem yesterdy and emailed them to him but i dont know were hes at he didnt post if anyone wants to see them and post htem for me shoot me an email

x1ryan2004@yahoo.com

i dont relly care cuz my quad will beat any 250ex 250x or 300ex, but im tired of people with 300exs think theere the shi# cuz they have 70 more cc, and a clutch and chain

nismo
01-09-2004, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by kxrider


i dont relly care cuz my quad will beat any 250ex 250x or 300ex, but im tired of people with 300exs think theere the shi# cuz they have 70 more cc, and a clutch and chain
70cc a clutch and a chain will make a big difference! you can change sprokets for speed or bottom end displacement makes more power. get the facts

300exthumperluv
01-09-2004, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by kxrider
i dont relly care cuz my quad will beat any 250ex 250x or 300ex, but im tired of people with 300exs think theere the shi# cuz they have 70 more cc, and a clutch and chain

Congrats....your Raptor has 100's of more cc's than any quad mentioned in this post, so I'd sure hop it beats a 282cc air cooled 4-stroke Nice way to jump off subject once proven wrong.:rolleyes:

stonerider250x
01-09-2004, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by kxrider
i scanned htem yesterdy and emailed them to him but i dont know were hes at he didnt post if anyone wants to see them and post htem for me shoot me an email

x1ryan2004@yahoo.com

i dont relly care cuz my quad will beat any 250ex 250x or 300ex, but im tired of people with 300exs think theere the shi# cuz they have 70 more cc, and a clutch and chain


if u dont care so much y u arguin about it:huh or is it that u just relize that u were wrong so u had to change the subject?????

kxrider
01-09-2004, 02:51 PM
im not freakin wrong y is nobody email me maybe cuz u know i got the dynos on my comp right now 13.7 for the 300ex, and 11.9 for the 250ex so all you guys had nothin to brag about i rode a 250ex for a long time and i watch my lil brother ride the hell outa that thing he beat z400s, and 400ex on the track becuase he had the balls to do a 50fter on a lil 250ex and they wussed out, and i bet money if i still had it he could smoke any of you



so any of you sayin im wrong send me an email x1ryan2004@yahoo.com i gota work tonight but first thing tommrow you will have ur dyno runs, and if your not embarresd enough you can even post them

300exthumperluv
01-09-2004, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by kxrider
i watch my lil brother ride the hell outa that thing he beat z400s, and 400ex on the track becuase he had the balls to do a 50fter on a lil 250ex and they wussed out


Nuff said. 250EX jumping a 50 ft double? I might have been born at night, but NOT LAST NIGHT.

And...

Nobody is emailing you, cuz nobody respects your opinion and knows you're wrong. have a nice weekend.

I vote for a "lock" on this thread.

stonerider250x
01-09-2004, 03:26 PM
I vote for a "lock" on this thread.

i 2nd that

Out_Sider
01-09-2004, 03:27 PM
no 250ex could not handle a 50ft double. I've seen 250ex's run, and they still suck. And chit dude. I'll take your funking raptor, i could care less, i'll woop yo as$ on any funkin track. Raptors suck about as much as a 250ex. i dont care that the size of your motor doubles mine. I could care less. And my 300 is pushin about 24-26 hp right now, and around 30 or so at the crank. And your Craptor is doin 32 at the rear wheels..at most!


now that i've got that off my chest.. LOCK THIS DUMBCHIT THREAD

300exthumperluv
01-09-2004, 03:38 PM
3 votes for a lock, lets hope the mods take over from here.

BIGRED400
01-09-2004, 07:11 PM
My son had a 2002 250EX, it was a nice starter quad, dependable,good quad for what Honda built it for, in some ways I miss it, but for this ???
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Originally posted by kxrider
i watch my lil brother ride the hell outa that thing he beat z400s, and 400ex on the track becuase he had the balls to do a 50fter on a lil 250ex and they wussed out
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No way Hoss I know what they are about ,even if the motor would carry it that far you would have a broke back they have no suspension which is why I got rid of it and out him in a 2003CR85...he's happy far as power and I don't have to worry about him breaking his back:huh ;)....NOW LET'S LOCK THIS THREAD AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING WORTHWILE ! ! ! ! ! !

kxrider
01-10-2004, 10:44 AM
no man you dont get broke back from that you get 3 bent axles and one bent front rim, did i say the quad handled it no i said he did it, ,and if you want pics of the bent rims i can get them for you sunday and for anyoen who thinks a 300ex is any good


GIVE ME A BREAK they are very slow very narrow, dont hae much suspension and not to mention the ugliest race quad made, ,sure if you pimp them out they can be alright, but im talking stock but since i am arguing with alot of young ignoriant immature kids it doesnt matter becuase your to stubborn, i bet you think that a stock 400ex is fast?

300exthumperluv
01-10-2004, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by kxrider
i am arguing with alot of young ignoriant immature kids

Dude, its obvious you can't read/write well...because you are arguing with a IL state license Mechanical Engineer. Second, your point was completely unrelated cuz the 250EX couldn't hold its own at a MX track. Second of all, the 300EX is NOT A RACE QUAD. It is a recreational quad, not a beginner toy like you are defending.

Quit calling us "little" kids. Based on your evidence for your side of the arguments presented and your mutliple spelling and gramatical errors, its obvious you are a 12 year old playing "E-Thug" and dancing around the subject whenever confronted.

If that 250EX you owned was so great, you'd still have it right now, but you don't. :rolleyes:

kxrider
01-10-2004, 01:41 PM
i can read and write fin i just cant type that well beucase i am not a computer nerf..... and i didnt say it was great at mx i know its not for that i know the suspension sucks i know its slow, but im so damn tired of people hattin on them when they really have no room to talk i mean if you ride a 300ex on the mx track i think that is pretty funny just as funny as someone ridin a 250ex on the track unless you know how to ride it and i also to have pics of my lil brother doin that table top the 250ex i think he said top of 4th gear or low 5th i dont remember i have posted them before and i dont kow how you can say im wrong about the dyno thing when i have then:p i mean it makes no sense how can you argue with a dyno that was actually done by professionals, maybe it is becuase you dotn want to beleive how weak a 300ex is i mean a blaster puts out more hp than a 300ex and its only a 200cc 2 stroke i guess they suck to i mean it is less than 300cc so it is obviouly not meant to be ridin anywere near a mx track

300exthumperluv
01-10-2004, 02:06 PM
This post is about which quad performs better- the 250EX or 250X. You've turned this whole thread into a charade with your "side stories" and false claims.

You don't have to be a computer nerd (nerf?) to be able to type legibly and correctly. :huh

stonerider250x
01-10-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by kxrider
i can read and write fin i just cant type that well beucase i am not a computer nerf..... and i didnt say it was great at mx i know its not for that i know the suspension sucks i know its slow, but im so damn tired of people hattin on them when they really have no room to talk i mean if you ride a 300ex on the mx track i think that is pretty funny just as funny as someone ridin a 250ex on the track unless you know how to ride it and i also to have pics of my lil brother doin that table top the 250ex i think he said top of 4th gear or low 5th i dont remember i have posted them before and i dont kow how you can say im wrong about the dyno thing when i have then:p i mean it makes no sense how can you argue with a dyno that was actually done by professionals, maybe it is becuase you dotn want to beleive how weak a 300ex is i mean a blaster puts out more hp than a 300ex and its only a 200cc 2 stroke i guess they suck to i mean it is less than 300cc so it is obviouly not meant to be ridin anywere near a mx track


first this thread aint about ur how good ur brother rides, or the 300ex, or a blaster, or even about whats meant for a race track and whats not.

second if u think its dumb to have a 300ex on a race track ur even dumber than i thought.

third the blaster also is a good racer quad and is alot better than the 250ex

fourth ur raptor aont that great, a good rider could prolly come out there and wip ur @$$ on a moded 300ex

kxrider
01-10-2004, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by kxrider
my neighbor has a 250x with pipe and that stuff, i had my 250ex with pipe and stuff and 20 inch tires, and i beat him always on the road, adn dirt, until i sold it and moved on now i really beat him

this is my first post now how is that off topic you guys are the cocky ones who responed to me and started this sh2#, because you refuse to believe in a little 250ex but you have faith in a 250x i jus dont understand and i never will sure you can say its the rider, btu when we switch he used to beat me on my own 250ex and me on his 250x explain that, and like i said before this is a never ending battle becuase it is all based on opinions except for the dyno runs that i have, that nobody still has emailed me to see

SPEED-MDS
01-13-2004, 08:06 AM
The 250ex and 250x are both slow quads, both have short travel suspensions. You guys are hilarious with your arguing back and forth about witch quad sucks less! Why do ppl say the 250ex is made for kids, your supposed to be 16 yrs old to ride any of the sportquads. Both the 250ex and the 250x are for the wifes and girlfriends to toodle around on while the men ride the "real" sportquads! :macho

nismo
01-13-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by SPEED-MDS
The 250ex and 300ex are both slow quads, both have short travel suspensions, the 300ex is quite a bit snappier on take offs cause of the chain vs. the shaft drive on the 250ex. You guys are hilarious with your arguing back and forth about witch quad sucks less! Why do ppl say the 250ex is made for kids, your supposed to be 16 yrs old to ride any of the sportquads. Both the 250 and the 300 are for the wifes and girlfriends to toodle around on while the men ride the "real" sportquads! :macho
sorry that i dont have the money for a real mans quad (everyone should have a 400ex its the best;) )i think my 250X does just fine for the type of riding i do and top speed isnt everything

SPEED-MDS
01-13-2004, 07:06 PM
I never said that the 400ex was the best quad out. I like arcticat's 400 better but I couldn't afford it so I had to settle for my no reverse havin, hard startin, 250x ars kickin 400ex.:blah: :D

kxrider
01-13-2004, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by SPEED-MDS
The 250ex and 250x are both slow quads, both have short travel suspensions. You guys are hilarious with your arguing back and forth about witch quad sucks less! Why do ppl say the 250ex is made for kids, your supposed to be 16 yrs old to ride any of the sportquads. Both the 250ex and the 250x are for the wifes and girlfriends to toodle around on while the men ride the "real" sportquads! :macho

i will settle at this i agree very much


i am just mad becuase everyoen trys to act bad becuase they ride a 300ex and they think they are so much better than a 250ex

300exthumperluv
01-13-2004, 09:46 PM
Whatever...

we all agree its better, and signifigantly better. Nobody witha 300ex thinks they are riding a superior vehicle either. However, it clearly OUTPERFORMS the 250EX. If 300ex riders wanted a faster ride, they'd get one.

kxrider
01-13-2004, 10:00 PM
ok i will agree with u on that one it is better but not that much less than 2 hp, with my pipe and jets and filter i swear on anything that i have beat more than one stock 300ex with plenty of witnesses and since they are all redknecks they all think that i had the 250ex bored, cuz red necks think thas the only way to make somthin fast:p

markk
01-14-2004, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by nismo
the X would smoke a 250ex. a 250X is the same as a 300ex just different strokes i beleive.


thats right the only diffrence between the two really is they just over stroked the 300ex and put electric start!

when u stroke somthing it makes more tourge but it looses revs!

BigBadJ-400ex
01-14-2004, 04:21 PM
I cant believe I wasted my time reading this thread!! Damn you all!!:grr:

stonerider250x
01-14-2004, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by BigBadJ-400ex
I cant believe I wasted my time reading this thread!! Damn you all!!:grr:


glad u had fun man:p

honda_250x_88
02-11-2004, 08:48 PM
the "X" by a long shot i races a kid with a suzuki lt250s and wasted him

riverex
02-11-2004, 09:18 PM
the 250 ex is not a very good performing bike. it is made for recreation and entry level riders. the 250x was made for racing. another good point is that the 250ex is shaft driven and automatic clutch. i ride through alot water and even snorkel my quad. the 250 ex are practicly maintence free and are very durable quad (like all hondas) . i don't own one but for recreation and begining riders this is what i would recomend. plus practicaly maintaince free.

ryanh250ex
02-12-2004, 11:44 AM
holy thread resurrection, batman!


seriously....this is rediculous. i own a 250 myself (not for much longer, thank god) and i'm fully aware a blaster or a 250x or a 300ex is a better machine. i have beaten my share of blasters and 300's, both stock and modified (little stuff, pipe/filter/tires/rejet), but i still believe that they are better machines.

i bought the 250 because i was a beginner and a newbie to ATVing, not so i could race it.

250ex's are pointless to modify to the point of being "race-ready", meaning cam,piston,porting,tires/rims, shocks, axle, etc. i have a pipe on mine that was given to me as a gift. the shaft drive limits the overall shock length on the rear, so building a "long-travel" 250ex would be near impossible to do.

the motors are very low-tech, low-performance pushrod motor with a 2-valve head. making any sort of serious power out of it would require alot of R&D , as well as alot of money.even with a high-performance motor, you are still hurt by the short gearing.

bottom line: 250X/300EX > 250EX.

hondaboy000016
02-12-2004, 12:29 PM
i have a 250ex and i raced a 250x and i smoked him but it could be because i was a better rider. :cool:

rap169
02-12-2004, 05:07 PM
i dunno y im bothering even repling to this topic, but my shop manual from 1987 states that the 250x has 21hp at the crank. So after the loss through the drive train, i can see around 17. But for it to be as low as 13? maybe if the gearing was all screwed up.

250rider
02-12-2004, 06:35 PM
i think mine dynoed at about 26 or 27. and that rear wheel ponies. 250ex was the slowest and most pointless quad ever made.

stonerider250x
02-12-2004, 07:13 PM
:eek2: i cant belive this thread came back......i didnt think that guy would ever quit sayin that a 250x had 12-13 horse power:rolleyes:

Redride11
02-12-2004, 07:36 PM
YEEEYAAAA!!!!!! ******ES!! :confused: :rolleyes: ? or something. I like 250xs better than 250EXs. The 250ex is like the best screw around quad in the world though, u can do side wheelies forever on those things and wheelies too, but 400s are the best for those :D

markk
02-13-2004, 08:33 AM
i think 30o's do the best wheelies but i think that what take the 250ex down is that they are shaft drivin, and eveytime u change angles in the drive treain u loose Horses,n so that would put the 250x will a slight advantage over the ex i think!!!!!!!!!!!

beak7707
02-13-2004, 08:54 AM
The 250ex is a great beginers bike or just a play around bike. But the 250x will outperform it in all areas i would say. It will have alot more power, and a manual clutch. The 250ex is a great bike but its not very fun to ride if you are used to power.

CG's
02-20-2004, 09:04 AM
A 250x better have more power than 15 Hp or what ever you said because a 250EX has 16 or 17 hp. I know it's not a far shot from a 300EX. I have a 250 EX and all I have is a jetted carb and carved snorkel and I can keep right up with a stock 300. Though the 250X probably has much more potential than a 250EX. Also there are many more after market parts available for the 250x because it's basically the same as a 300. If I were looking to buy I would probably buy 250X because of the potential and the number of aftermarket parts available. Though I like looks of the 250EX better.

300exthumperluv
02-20-2004, 02:19 PM
The looks of the 250EX suck. They have less power than you stated.

Have a nice day, now lock this post because it give me a headache.

mustang93
02-20-2004, 02:37 PM
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BIGRED400
02-21-2004, 06:15 AM
This thread is STILL going on ??:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

HRC300
02-21-2004, 07:26 AM
i had a 250X and traded it for a 300EX, but the X was faster by i long shot and i don't know why. If i could trade back, i would in a second

bradley300
02-21-2004, 09:40 AM
in one post, i will clear up al this bullchit-
250ex v.s 250x. the x is the CLEAR winner. superior front susension geomtry, better shocks/more travel. also, the motor is more responsive to mods and also has more potential. the x is also the faster bike (keep reading for explaination on this one) the aftermarket is expansive for an x, hard to find anything for the ex.

300ex vs. 250x, its the same machine except the 250 is kickstart (minus 10 lbs. or so for the starter and battery) the x revs 100rpms higher. also, the shorter stroke of the 250x makes the motor rev quicker than a 300, so geuss what THE X IS FASTER and this is coming from me, an avid 300ex fan.

i think most will agree that i know my 300ex/250x's better than most.

CG's
02-21-2004, 10:12 AM
I will agree the 250x is overall a much better bike. I like the looks of them are better and that's my opinion you have your own. Some like fords and some like chevy's big whoop, I could care less. As far as I am concerned the original thread starter is the one deciding on it. Everyone is so concerned about who's is faster. Final answer 250x is a better bike because it capable of going faster and jumping higher, though the 250ex is a great bike if you not centered around blowing the fenders off everyone else. Who cares about the numbers really it whether your having fun on them; though lots of power is awsome! Just remember there will ALWAYS be something and someone faster!

250EXpwns
02-22-2004, 05:57 PM
You've all had some good points and some of you haven't said anything intelligent at all but I think it's time we give this thread a rest, eh? I have a 400ex now so I'm not too worried about a 250 or 300 ATV anymore. Although there is one question that you all should remember from this thread and this is it: What is the best to you? Remember that. In other words what I mean is peace out ya'll and have a good 'un.

Rebelrider4OOex
02-22-2004, 07:35 PM
250X!!! i sold mine but hwen i had it i know a kid wqho had a 2003 250ex with pipe tires an he couldnt come close and i had nuttin but razrs tires i also could beat blaster like it was my job after hte whoke shot if the were stock like me