04 GNCC Predictions [Archive]

gizmocor

01-02-2004, 06:31 PM

Anyone know if Baker is going to be back with us this year?? Or if Trew is going to be in for a full season? I thought I also heard rumors that Page wasn't going to be back?? Can't make predictions til ya set the playing field?!?!?! Can't see Bill losing the title quit yet though. Had alot of pressure at the end of last year, but I think he will be able to put another one under his belt next year. Then I'd say look for Borich to reign. I don't see anyone winning like Bill did last year though.....

Bonnie Cook

01-03-2004, 08:53 AM

Overall races wise....
I say Bill will overall a few,
Borich a few,
Smiley a few,
DeRisi will get atleast two,
Duvall maybe two
Then, a lot of new boys on the podium!!!!

gump

01-03-2004, 10:05 AM

i'm pulling for my boy santo, but i think the first half is gonna be 4 stroke experience
yokely
duvall
derisi
borich
ballance
smiley

Dunlap

01-03-2004, 10:43 AM

Experience, confidence, speed and youth will be the winning factors.

Ballance
Borich
Yokely
Smiley
Duvall, Derisi, Kippenberg, Trew
Cook, Jenks, Stoess, Gallagher

indygncc

01-03-2004, 11:50 AM

Ballance/Borich

cdalejef

01-03-2004, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by Chino
JEFF@QUADSHOP :D
BORICH
BALLANCE
SMILEY
YOKLEY
DERISI

If that greg trew guy races again, i think he is one to watch out for every now and then, he always seemed to do pretty decent ~ LMAO.....what have you been drinking? :huh

cdalejef

01-03-2004, 04:27 PM

I think this will be the most exciting year since the Chuck, Bob, Barry, Steve battles of the early 90's!

Pappy

01-03-2004, 04:35 PM

if the weather is the same this season as it was last...id bet ol' stoess gets his share of time on the podium. mud has a funny way of finding things wrong with quads and this year we will see a full field of new ones.

if its a decent weather year id say the top 5 from this year will be even closer with borich stepping it up yet another notch. i believe ballance will have his hands full defending his title this season and the new names to the pro ranks may be a bit faster then some think.

in any event its shaping up to be a bar banging ...stump bumpin good time:cool:

Chino

01-03-2004, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
LMAO.....what have you been drinking? :huh

ZOOMERS strawberry shine :D

Tommy 17

01-03-2004, 05:15 PM

i think borich will take the overall if he keeps it on all 4 wheels...

then:

balance (bill)
yokley
smiley
derisi

jeff@QS i think ur gonna take a 7th overall:macho

cdalejef

01-03-2004, 05:38 PM

I'd be happy with that! :macho

ex kid

01-03-2004, 06:22 PM

top ten(not in order)

borich
smiley
ballence
yokley
duvall
derisi
knippenberg
hertz
jenks
trew

Badger_Skid

01-03-2004, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by *$BlueFlash$*
Duvall
Yokley
Smiley
Ballance
Borich
Dersi
Until the others figure out the switch to 4 stroke
Then it will be like the good old days where they are banging bars till the end!:D
Some Good Fan racin

I'm with Blue Flash, it's going to take a few races to figure things out on the four strokes where these top two guys have the experience.

The top two I agree 100%. Derisi I give a third, he's a hard worker....... He'll reap the benefits, he's going to suprise people.

01-03-2004, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
Experience, confidence, speed and youth will be the winning factors.

Ballance
Borich
Yokely
Smiley
Duvall, Derisi, Kippenberg, Trew
Cook, Jenks, Stoess, Gallagher

I agree 100%..

If it's a mud fest all year like last year, Cook and Jeff will be up front for sure. Them boys got a thing about racing in mud. With all thumpers out there is should be a great and very competitive year..:muscle:

meangreen400ex

01-03-2004, 09:32 PM

yokley
ballance
borich
duvall
smily

markk

01-03-2004, 09:58 PM

i think the first two will be really close in points

ballance
Borich
Smiley
Yokley
Duval
but i think mabey Jenks for 6th he is racer!!!!!!!!!!
give him some time!!!

foxracingpredat

01-04-2004, 12:24 AM

1.Borich (if he is as good on 4strokes)
2.Ballance
3.Yokley
4.Smiley
5.Duvall
6.Derisi
7.jeff
8.cook
9.trew
10.jenks

wat a great year of racing its gonna be!:D

ex kid

01-04-2004, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by foxracingpredat
1.Borich (if he is as good on 4strokes)
2.Ballance
3.Yokley
4.Smiley
5.Duvall
6.Derisi
7.jeff
8.cook
9.trew
10.jenks

wat a great year of racing its gonna be!:D

borich is just as fast or faster on his four stroke! ive seen him on it.

ex kid

01-04-2004, 06:45 AM

Johnny G. and Andy L are probably going to be real fast as well this year.

RIDER11X

01-04-2004, 07:50 AM

Borich
Ballance

I think this will be the season that Borich takes over. He has the speed, he just needs to caln down a little. :cool:

Ballance is still probably hoping Hawk don't come back, that is the one guy that always could keep Bill from being the best. Hawk dominated week after week!:cool:

cdalejef

01-04-2004, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by RIDER11X
Ballance is still probably hoping Hawk don't come back, that is the one guy that always could keep Bill from being the best. Hawk dominated week after week!:cool: Trust me, Bill is not the least bit worried about Barry.

RIDER11X

01-04-2004, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Trust me, Bill is not the least bit worried about Barry.

I know it has been a few years, but I would love to see what would unfold if Yamaha put Barry back on a YFZ450 w/ factory backing right now. Bill was always the #2 guy to Barry, that's why I say what I do.
Nothing against Bill, he is sooooo scary fast it is unreal! And, I think the pace has stepped up considerably since Barry left ATV's. It would just be intresting to me since Barry is kind of like our hometown guy.:cool:

holeshot19

01-04-2004, 10:35 AM

shssssssss william threw away a year on R&D he should be in the cat birds seat. he has got motors only factory street racing bike engine have in them.

kooter

01-05-2004, 07:52 AM

DuVall
Yokley
Borich
smiley
Ballance (Bill)

400exmom

01-05-2004, 08:03 AM

borich
ballance
yokely
smiley~

traci cecceo will take home another championship also

LTandRaptorider

01-05-2004, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by 400exmom
borich
ballance
yokely
smiley~

traci cecceo will take home another championship also

;)

and then waaaaaaaaay down the list, right before rider11x... Shero?:eek2:

01-05-2004, 11:53 AM

I know this is not the right spot to post this but I didn't want to start a new thread for it.

Did anyone realize the all of the riders who placed in the top ten in the class in the 4 stroke A class qualify to race in the PRO AM CLASS!

I think that is pretty impresive.

Does anyone know if any of those people will be moving up to pro-am or if they are staying in the A class for the following season?

Johnny_G

01-05-2004, 12:15 PM

Only maybe 3 of you listed ballance as #1, and several of you had him outside the top 3........................Are you people high?

Bill has been the class of the field winning over 70% of the races, and all 4 championships since 2000, and he only gets faster every race!!!!

Ballance
Borich
Smiley
Yokely
Duvall

there is your top 5.....................In that order!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pappy

01-05-2004, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Johnny_G
........................Are you people high?

someone pass to G dawg:bandit: :blah:

400exmom

01-05-2004, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by Johnny_G
Only maybe 3 of you listed ballance as #1, and several of you had him outside the top 3........................Are you people high?

Bill has been the class of the field winning over 70% of the races, and all 4 championships since 2000, and he only gets faster every race!!!!

Ballance
Borich
Smiley
Yokely
Duvall

there is your top 5.....................In that order!!!!!!!!!!!! geeeeeeeez~grouch

jlhughes750

01-05-2004, 02:04 PM

Yes Johhny I am!!!! Whats your point????:bandit:

Borich has been training on that Yammi longer than anyone knows!!!!!

my pics:
Borich
Ballance
Smiley
Duvall
Yokely

Ballance is a true champion!! Its in his blood and that makes him hard to beat. Its hard to have to Kings of the Hill.... two roosters in the hens house so to speak..... People have been saying for years that Borich was up and coming...... Now he's #2!!!!!!!Whats next??????? Good luck Chris!!!!!

Note: All the focus is on the Ballance and Borich show... A former # 2 (Smiley) spent alot of time dialing in his thumper last year, and spent most of that time training with the current #2!!!! I know dropping from the #2 spot pi$$es Smiley off bad!!! Look for Smiley to sneak his way onto the podium at EVERY round next year.....I think after this year people started counting him out...i think it was a wake up call that the other racers did not need... I think Smiley will be on a mission next year!!!!! Good luck Matt and Chris!!!!!!! PA. crew!!!

later, J

Johnny_G

01-05-2004, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by 400exmom
geeeeeeeez~grouch

is that how I am percieved?:confused:

I was just pointing out that the most dominant atv rider on the planet is still in top form, and isn' going to let young Mr. Borich (talented, and determined as he is) walk off with his title without putting up an epic fight!!!!

Chris is scary fast and ultra motivated, but lets not forget how many years Bill spent being faster than Barry, but still wering the #2..........winning has a formula, and speed is only one component. I am a huge fan, and good freind of Chris's, but I think even he knows if he wants to wear the #1 plate he is going to have to wrestle it away from Bill at each and every round.

Bill and Chris are in a class all there own, the championship will belong to one of them at the end of the year.......................just as of now my money is still on Bill, although I do hope to see Chris make a heck of a show out of it...................man is that kid exiting to watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pappy

01-05-2004, 05:25 PM

bababahahah...i think she pulled yer chain JG:devil: id let her:eek:

cdalejef

01-05-2004, 06:29 PM

Johnny is right, Chris is exteremly fast but he still needs to calm down a little and be more smooth to take the title away. I noticed he did smooth out as the season went on but he still has some learning todo as did Bill and Berry in their first few years as pros.
I have no doubt that in a year or two he will get the #1 plate.
I think this is going to be a very exciting year!

Oh ya, Johnny C will be top 5 this year :macho

DeCesare79

01-05-2004, 06:34 PM

Has anyone been watching the TV shows? Borich wrecks more than anyone but he will still probably finish top 3 for the year next year. Here is my predictions..

Ballance
Smiley
Borich
Duvall
Yokely
Johnny G(If has been riding in all the bad weather in Ohio)
Derisi
Cook
Ballance
Stoess

RIDER11X

01-05-2004, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by LTandRaptorider
;)

and then waaaaaaaaay down the list, right before rider11x... Shero?:eek2:

:rolleyes: I thought I taught you that lesson last year! :devil: They must be right about teaching old dogs new tricks! They never learn!:devil:

Back on topic, I am a big fan of Smiley and Borich, but one thing has to be said. To my knowledge Bill and Borich are for the most part 100% racing when not at the track, where Smiley has a family life with a full time job which got to cut into some of his time for training, and testing. Is this why Ballance and Borich got the edge?
My next question, are you getting faster if your not on the ground once in a while wondering how you ended up there? Granted it may not be the best to do it in a race, but...... I do agree that there is a formula to racing and Bill got it down, but Borich got one vital part that not alot of other racers do.........the ability to fall back several places due to a mishap and be able to make a charge to the front of the pack in a short amount of time. And do it several times a race if needed! Bill and Chris are awe inspiring to say the least! Good luck to all and hopefully they will show us an action packed season! :D

quadman21

01-06-2004, 05:14 AM

Since I started this thread I'll throw in my .02 cents. I agree with all of you about Ballance "having it" and I'll even agree that he is the most talanted rider currently but not historically. It's really hard to say who will be on top with such an even playing field. That's why they are called predictions. I simply based my opinion on the fact that Duvall has had the most seat time racing a 4-stroke. His learning curve should be over. Yokley has had a lot of seat time racing also. We all know the stories of Smiley and Borich racing the yamahas at thier local races. This goes for all the past Pro P riders as well. Remember that Bill did not win on either his Suzuki or Yamaha last season. Rest assured he will adjust as any champion would, I just think the rest of the 4-stroke guys will get an early jump on the champ next year. This way, by the time ballance gets his 4-stroke legs, he'll have too far of a points deficit to get the number one plate again.

monkeyboy

01-06-2004, 08:14 AM

Johnnny C willl b da winnner nexx yer :muscle: :muscle:

propartsracing

01-06-2004, 12:03 PM

BORICH WILL HAVE THE #1 PLATE.YOUNG.HUNGRY,VERY FAST,GETTING SMARTER AND A GREAT FRIEND.SORRY GUYS

foxracingpredat

01-06-2004, 01:57 PM

ballance didn't do to well on the 4strokes at last years gncc's:confused: :huh

Ryan

01-06-2004, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by foxracingpredat
ballance didn't do to well on the 4strokes at last years gncc's:confused: :huh

Yeah, but don't you think hes been working his ***** off getting used to the 4-strokes?

gizmocor

01-06-2004, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by GNCCer
I know this is not the right spot to post this but I didn't want to start a new thread for it.

Did anyone realize the all of the riders who placed in the top ten in the class in the 4 stroke A class qualify to race in the PRO AM CLASS!

I think that is pretty impresive.

Does anyone know if any of those people will be moving up to pro-am or if they are staying in the A class for the following season?

To answer your Q....I'm not moving up. I have alot more to give in the A class before I'm going to move up. It's not my time....................yet!?!?;) ;) ;)

Cory

quadman21

01-07-2004, 11:45 AM

ballance didn't do to well on the 4strokes at last years gncc's

No, he did not. Look at the times and results. I did not say he is not a good rider. He just wasn't winning on the thumper. There are two equalizers, Mud and 4-strokes. So in 04 look for more even races, more competition, and different winners. I do not look for Ballance to dominate like the past 4 years. I look for closer racing with the races decided in the last miles of the lap.

cdalejef

01-07-2004, 12:01 PM

Don't froget that Bill had the series wraped up when he went 4-stroke and was using the races to test and tune. ;)

foxracingpredat

01-07-2004, 02:22 PM

i still think bill will be amazing on the 4stroke, but i think he has more work to do this month then riders such as chad duvall and william yokley just to get ready..they already have mroe rcaing experience on them and i think bill is much better with a two stroke(thats until he gets completely used to his 4stroke).what quad will he be on in 2004?

WOOLIN

01-07-2004, 02:23 PM

What is Borich going to be riding?

monkeyboy

01-07-2004, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by WOOLIN
What is Borich going to be riding?

wtf kinna qeestion iz dat:confused:

a yzf450 dumee:rolleyes:

spincr4hire

01-07-2004, 02:40 PM

Jeff and Johnny, you guys are selling yourselves short

cdalejef

01-07-2004, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by spincr4hire
Jeff and Johnny, you guys are selling yourselves short Johnny is short! I'm 6'1" :blah:

87250r88

01-07-2004, 05:32 PM

I think this will be Chris's year. He is a great rider and has plenty of experience on a 4 stroke. Of course you can never count out Ballance or Yokely.

blastinroost

01-07-2004, 06:26 PM

Bill Balance
Chris Borich
Matt Smiley
Chad Duval
William Yokely

Johnny_G

01-08-2004, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Johnny is short! I'm 6'1" :blah:

I am not short my mommy says I am perfect height:grr:huh

popo

01-08-2004, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Johnny is short! I'm 6'1" :blah:

Short is when your feet dangle sitting on the poo-poo.

When I fart it raises dust.

That's short

cdalejef

01-08-2004, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Johnny_G
I am not short my mommy says I am perfect height:grr:huh :confused:

MX#9

01-09-2004, 09:13 AM

Borich rode the 2-stroke all season without trying a 4-stoke in an actual gncc, but after watching them on tv I am now an expert lol. My thoughts are that Borich is the fastest one out there and needs to learn not to try and check out once he's in front. If he uses his head, I predict that he will have the title at the end of the season.

Johnny_G

03-22-2004, 05:00 PM

1 YAM 001 Bill Ballance 2 1 1 1 115
2 SUZ 003 William Yokley 1 3 3 8 85
3 YAM 002 Chris Borich 4 4 5 7 66
4 YAM 010 Brandon Ballance 5 6 13 4 57
5 YAM 012 Bryan Cook 10 5 4 10 56
6 YAM 006 Gregory Trew 6 2 7 x 54
7 YAM 005 Matt Smiley 3 x 14 2 53
8 YAM 004 Chad Duvall x x 2 3 46
9 HON 009 Todd Knippenberg 7 16 20 6 35
10 HON 437 Jathan Seale 12 8 9 x 34
11 POL 022 Kim Kuhnle 14 15 17 14 25
12 ATK 014 Jeff Stoess x 7 10 x 25
13 LON 011 Johnny Gallagher 9 9 x x 24
14 HON 020 Michael Houston x x 8 12 22
15 ROL 015 Andris Lagzdins 11 x x 11 20
16 YAM 013 Chris Jenks 10 12 x x 20
17 HON 016 Jeremy Rice x x 6 17 19
18 LEG 017 James Wahl 8 x x 15 19
19 HON 007 Bradley Page x x x 5 16
20 YAM 008 Santo Derisi x x x 9 12

Ryan

03-22-2004, 05:39 PM

Go Yokley!

jb500ex

03-22-2004, 07:33 PM

when is borich going too ride the R

cdalejef

03-23-2004, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by jb500ex
when is borich going too ride the R LOL.....never!

03-23-2004, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
LOL.....never!

I think he means the 450R....:blah:

I'd say we'll see him on it soon. His yammi is not up to par and I"m guessin he's sick of not seeing the podium..:mad: He had it with him this weekend but it stayed in the pits..

jlhughes750

03-23-2004, 07:25 AM

:D

He's got some seat time on it already!!!

cdalejef

03-23-2004, 07:31 AM

Rumor is he says its underpowered.

markk

03-23-2004, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by markk
i think the first two will be really close in points

ballance
Borich
Smiley
Yokley
Duval
but i think mabey Jenks for 6th he is racer!!!!!!!!!!
give him some time!!!

ok im switching a little bit

Ballance
Yokley
Smiley
Borich
Duval
and i would love to see greg trew and or Duval in the top 5 they are really underrated i feel!

Jeff u did damn good in Fl.

markk

03-23-2004, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by MX#9
Borich rode the 2-stroke all season without trying a 4-stoke in an actual gncc, but after watching them on tv I am now an expert lol. My thoughts are that Borich is the fastest one out there and needs to learn not to try and check out once he's in front. If he uses his head, I predict that he will have the title at the end of the season.

I sorta agree with u on Borich being fast, But i think that Ballance holds back somtimes and when he needs to go faster he kicks his game up and and flys! Like i have heard before to Finish 1st you first must finish!

cdalejef

03-23-2004, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by markk

Jeff u did damn good in Fl. Thanks, I love the muddy tracks!

03-23-2004, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Rumor is he says its underpowered.

a few mods like pipe, jetting and airbox mod would fix that I'm sure..:blah:

I do know for a fact he wont' have any battery issues like he's had with the yammi...:macho

Johnny_G

03-23-2004, 10:39 AM

Chris will ride that 450R at a gncc the same time jeffy gets off his dale.........never

He really don't like the thing from what he says.....now that may change in a year or so but right now the yammi is heads above in his own words...........sorry Honda fans!!!

If it is any consolation Andy Lagzidins really likes his 450R more than his YFZ

Originally posted by Rico
I think he means the 450R....:blah:

I'd say we'll see him on it soon. His yammi is not up to par and I"m guessin he's sick of not seeing the podium..:mad: He had it with him this weekend but it stayed in the pits..

Bonnie Cook

03-23-2004, 11:18 AM

My prediction::::

Bryan Cook will be on the podium before the summer break.
He wants it so bad. After GA he was pumped.....
After Steele Creek he was there and now he is flaming.

He has put in a lot of extra work already, training and getting ready mentally. He is putting his game together boys, watch out!

03-23-2004, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by Bonnie Hamrick
My prediction::::

Bryan Cook will be on the podium before the summer break.
He wants it so bad. After GA he was pumped.....
After Steele Creek he was there and now he is flaming.

He has put in a lot of extra work already, training and getting ready mentally. He is putting his game together boys, watch out!

I can see Bryan up there by the summer break also. He's lookin strong Bonnie..:macho