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Knips178
12-29-2003, 10:58 AM
What rear shocks from other atv's will fit a 400ex? Will a 250r? I am having trouble finding a decent priced rear dual rate shock and wonder if another atv's rear shock will work.

Pappy
12-29-2003, 11:00 AM
the only shock for a 400 is a 400 shock. the R shock wont work and niether will a z400.


why not just get the rear revalved :confused:

Knips178
12-29-2003, 11:01 AM
What about cannondale rear shock, i know the fronts work.

Pappy
12-29-2003, 11:03 AM
no a cannondale shock will not work and the fronts require a top bushing change not to mention the stroke is incorrect for a 400ex.

Juggalo
12-29-2003, 11:15 AM
pappy is right, just do it right or don't do it at all

simoniz
12-29-2003, 12:24 PM
What does your average rebuild cost for a 400 rear shock. And should I go with a elka rebuild kit etc.. Any suggestions on the rear susp..

crap-banshee32
12-29-2003, 12:36 PM
i got the PEP rebuild rear...and it works just as good as my buddies true PEP rear..and for a fraction of the price

EX4me
12-29-2003, 03:20 PM
Contact Santo Derisi about your rear shock. I'm getting ready to send him my rear shock off my 400 in Jan. Killer price to have everything done & setup for my weight & style of riding.

Pappy
12-29-2003, 03:28 PM
ive had great success with both the quadshop and de risi. i havent used anyone else so i cant really say how others compare.


rear rebuild with elka parts and ssd conversions are like $350. im guessin that but it should be close.

de risi has a millenium kit but you would have to check his website for a price.

Hotdog
12-30-2003, 09:28 AM
santo's quoted me 350 for re-valving,valving, new oil, seals, and nitrogen.

thats for my front ohlins and stock rear shock

yamaha1470
12-30-2003, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Knips178
I am having trouble finding a decent priced rear dual rate shock and wonder if another atv's rear shock will work.

for a true dual rate rear you need to have a CR500 link.

Paul400ex2002
12-30-2003, 09:36 AM
or no link at all ;)

Quadworks
12-30-2003, 11:13 AM
What does it take to run the CR500 link? Does it make a big difference? Whats the Pro's and Con's? Thanks

Chanman420q
12-30-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by yamaha1470
for a true dual rate rear you need to have a CR500 link.

i never new that. I always figured it was still a true double rate cuz with pep zps its still tripple rates even though the top spring is just there to sag

lil400exman
12-30-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Chanman420q
i never new that. I always figured it was still a true double rate cuz with pep zps its still tripple rates even though the top spring is just there to sag
thats not true! the linkage setup doesnt affect your spring rates............:rolleyes: people are talking out of there butts again!:mad:

yamaha1470
12-30-2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Chanman420q
i never new that. I always figured it was still a true double rate cuz with pep zps its still tripple rates even though the top spring is just there to sag

PEP ZPS are a true tripple rate. They have 3 springs AND a spring for the ZPS. 4 Springs in total, so yes they are a true tripple rate. There rears however are single rate. They have 1 spring plus the zps spring. 2 springs in total. If you have a CR500 Link or no link then it would be dual rate with 2 springs plus a ZPS spring. 3 springs in total. Im sure you get the point. also this is for a 400ex i am not sure about other models.


Originally posted by lil400exman
thats not true! the linkage setup doesnt affect your spring rates............:rolleyes: people are talking out of there butts again!:mad:

Im not sure what to make of this comment. Are you saying different linkages wont effect how your shocks are set up? :confused: If so that couldnt be more wrong. Take for example ELKA. They have a new linkage which requires new springs for it to work. It even needs a full aftermarket rear no rebuilds i believe. Also the no link or cr500 link allows PEP to make a true dual rate rear instead of single rate. The stock 400ex linkage although very similar to a cr500 link can not handle the dual rate rear. If i interpreted your comment wrong im sorry.

bmw500hp
01-01-2004, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by Knips178
What rear shocks from other atv's will fit a 400ex? Will a 250r? I am having trouble finding a decent priced rear dual rate shock and wonder if another atv's rear shock will work.

I have a stock rear with a pep convsion. pep spring and valving. It is for sale!

Quadworks
01-01-2004, 08:43 AM
If I put a CR500 link on my 400EX (with stock shock) what is it going to do for me? What is the purpose? Thanks

Chanman420q
01-01-2004, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Bruce Oliver
If I put a CR500 link on my 400EX (with stock shock) what is it going to do for me? What is the purpose? Thanks

u cant just "put" a cr500 link on, u have to get a special swing arm, frame, and shock. i think for how much it costs its not even worth the extra perfrormance that a normal 400ex linkage gives

Quadworks
01-02-2004, 08:14 AM
Hey thanks. I asked before but nobody would answer a simple question. I was just wondering why guys were doing this.

cdalejef
01-02-2004, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Bruce Oliver
Hey thanks. I asked before but nobody would answer a simple question. I was just wondering why guys were doing this. Doing what?

Knips178
01-02-2004, 08:35 AM
What does it take to add direct link? Just a shock and swingarm that are setup for direct link? Does it give you more travel than the stock linkage?
Oh, and is it really worth rebuilding the stock shock versus just buying new (in other words is there realy that much of a difference between the stock shock setup and say a PEP rebuilt stock shock?)

cdalejef
01-02-2004, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Knips178
What does it take to add direct link? Just a shock and swingarm that are setup for direct link? Does it give you more travel than the stock linkage?
Oh, and is it really worth rebuilding the stock shock versus just buying new (in other words is there realy that much of a difference between the stock shock setup and say a PEP rebuilt stock shock?) By saying direct link, do you mean no link?
Yes, there is a big difference between a rebuilt stock shock and an aftermarket shock.

Quadworks
01-02-2004, 08:50 AM
Hey jeff catch up on your ready and you will know what people are talking about.

cdalejef
01-02-2004, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by Bruce Oliver
Hey jeff catch up on your ready and you will know what people are talking about. I have been reading this thread, our question was already answered. What more info do you want?

Knips178
01-02-2004, 09:56 AM
Yes I mean no link. What all do you have to change to use No link? What does it give you over a normal linkage setup?
So your saying don't bother with rebuilding a stock rear shock from a 400ex, just buy an aftermarket one?

cdalejef
01-02-2004, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Knips178
Yes I mean no link. What all do you have to change to use No link? What does it give you over a normal linkage setup?
So your saying don't bother with rebuilding a stock rear shock from a 400ex, just buy an aftermarket one? You will need a swingarm, new shock, modified airbox and either an aftermarket frame or highly modified stock frame.
I found that a no-link setup doesn't kick to the side like linkage setups do and they work better in the small choppy stuff. Linkage seems to hook up better coming out of corners but I think the advantages of no-link are greater.

I'm not saying don't bother rebuilding a stock shock, I'm just saying its not as good as a full aftermarket rear shock.

Knips178
01-02-2004, 10:10 AM
That helped alot, thanks for the info. Guess i'll be holding out to get new rear shock. So if anyone has a rear shock with ssd or zps for a 400ex, let me know.

Paul400ex2002
01-05-2004, 12:24 PM
from what i've heard, the pep rebuilds are as good if not better than their complete new rear shocks.

Knips178
01-05-2004, 01:56 PM
I find it hard to believe that a stock rear shock can be rebuilt to even being close to a true aftermarket rear. Even with spring, valving, and a refill....I figure there is some reason why Elka and Axis are selling rebuilt stock shocks to pro's
but, i could be wrong

and ps i'm still looking for a rear shock to buy

Knips178
01-05-2004, 01:58 PM
check that, why they are NOT selling rebuilt stock shocks to pro's

forum
01-06-2004, 07:29 AM
some of you people make me laugh/shake my head. OO yes! a stock shock with rebuild is much better then a fully built race preped billet aluminium custom built shock. give your head a shake. then come back and give info you didn't get out of a cracker jack box. Remeber if your having a tough time gettin info from people on this site. or just have a tough time believing it. CALL THE A SHOCK COMPANY. ... jeff@quadshop Is definatly someone to listen to... He is one of the few people that knows exactly what hes talking about. listen only to the right people.