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jdt
12-19-2003, 11:36 AM
New release date even later Jan. 28.
THIS REALLY SUCKS!

briantrx
12-19-2003, 11:54 AM
just got the same call, dealer said the reason was, one of the parts suppliers is having problems. he said no dealer is getting one untill the new release date of january 28th. i am still first on the list but, i wish that i would not have sold my r so soon...:mad:

Karizz
12-19-2003, 12:12 PM
I too got the same phone call from my dealer... January 28th ....because one of the parts suppliers could not meet the demands.He said that are quite a few built but will not release the units until each dealer can have atleast one!

MX#9
12-19-2003, 12:29 PM
I got the same call. Bad news for Honda as they will certainly lose some sales. It will not change my mind ,but some people are preparing for a full season of racing with some early dates on the west coast and Texas. My dealer was very upset as he has 5 of them already paid for from customers,myself included,and he said some of them will want their money back.

MIA450R
12-19-2003, 12:30 PM
...and yet theres a thread on ATVConn that says people have received theirs...

WTF

andrew75
12-19-2003, 12:30 PM
i just got the call too, they got a fax saying the 450r will not be release until jan 28 due too production problems:( :confused:

brif
12-19-2003, 12:44 PM
This is starting to get a little bit ridiculous. I really want a 450R, but the yamaha is now starting to look better. If it's late January for the dealers to get #1 how long will it be before the people at 4 or 5 get theirs. I had a trip planned for late april. I now wonder if I'll have it for then. If I can't get mine by march 1 I'm going yamaha!!:(

lukester720
12-19-2003, 01:01 PM
I can't believe honda is doing this! I'm sick and tired of my friends asking me when I'm gonna get it because every time I tell them it gets later and later and there all like yea whatevea! Well like I've had to say a couple of times before at least I'll have more money for a down payment.

MX#9
12-19-2003, 01:09 PM
The only positive thing my dealer told me was that the much wanted CRF250 was not going to be released till Jan. sometime and he is getting his shipment Dec. 23. Maybe just maybe we will get them sooner.

AtvMxRider
12-19-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by MX#9
The only positive thing my dealer told me was that the much wanted CRF250 was not going to be released till Jan. sometime and he is getting his shipment Dec. 23. Maybe just maybe we will get them sooner.


Are you talking about the dirtbike? If so they are already out.

linkcmd88
12-19-2003, 01:30 PM
noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :huh :eek2: :eek: :grr: :mad: :cuss:

MIA450R
12-19-2003, 02:08 PM
Confirmed here too. Honda fax, at my dealer too...450R initial release delay, now Jan28th, due to parts supplier.

SUCKBAGS

linkcmd88
12-19-2003, 02:12 PM
ya called my dad to call the honda dealer and he just called me back its true i wont a new bike now :mad:

seatec
12-19-2003, 02:25 PM
c'mon now guys. all good things take time. i was in the same boat when i was waiting for my 2002 CRF450. the waiting was unbearable but worth it. hang in there guys.

quadrcr161
12-19-2003, 02:32 PM
this is the biggest load of crap i have ever heard. i just got off the phone with 2 dealerships plus the one im getting mine from. they got the memo this morning. i wonder how many sales honda will loose because of this?

MX#9
12-19-2003, 02:36 PM
They won't lose mine but my guess is plenty!

JTRtrx250r
12-19-2003, 03:00 PM
Some of you guys dont make much sence to me....ya waited HOW DAMN LONG already..whats another month? I can say I dont like the idea of Honda already having production problems..on this new R we been hearing such a rave about,
Another question I have is for all the "loyal" Honda guys that got their panties in a wad b/c it's been held off till the 28th of Jan and are claiming Honda will lose biz b/c of it...whatcha gonna get now? haha:D

I can understand the "extra wait" being a PITA,but if you're really a loyal Honda fan...you'll wait wont ya..:D I guess if youve had any 2nd thoughts on the Honda..this would be a perfect excuse to get the Yamaha:D :blah:

2004TRX450R
12-19-2003, 03:21 PM
yup it won't be until the 28th of Jan now!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: That really sucks. I wonder how many still think they are getting them this week? I think the guys claiming to have them are full of crap. If they really have on they can post a pic!

quadnice
12-19-2003, 03:46 PM
:mad:
Yup -here in Mn. same bad news today!
I think we should all get a FREE HRC hop kit, for the delay!!!

kgbg
12-19-2003, 03:50 PM
It will be worth it. They are changing it (front and rear suspension)since the Yamaha is a better quad than they expected.
It sucks , makes me want to buy a Yamaha.
Did I just say that out loud?

stabbincabin
12-19-2003, 03:51 PM
I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING MINE TOO,BUT WHAT THE HECK WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 15 YEARS ALREADY WHAT'S ANOTHER MONTH? MAYBE WE CAN ALL FANTASIZE THAT WE'RE WAITING BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS SO IT WILL WHOOP THE YAMI'S A**HOLE, I CAN WAIT ,HECK MY OLD HIDE MAKES ME WAIT FOR OTHER THINGS I'M INTERESTED IN(IF YOU CAN CATCH MY DRIFT) IT'S NO PROBLEM TO ME!!!

300exHILLER
12-19-2003, 04:12 PM
YEY!!! More money to save for MODS when it does come out:devil:

TC17
12-19-2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by kgbg
It will be worth it. They are changing it (front and rear suspension)Did I just say that out loud?

are you serious? i heard the Showa's failed during testing and were too soft for MX. do you know what they put on them?

250rtone
12-19-2003, 05:57 PM
It says on TRX450.COM that it will be released in FEB.:(

quadjockey440
12-19-2003, 06:07 PM
First off sure am glad we already got two new yamahas ready to race, second the crf 250 is already out here on the west coast. I did here the same thing about the shock failures, ( May there still trying to figure out how to compete with the yamaha. Got the hole shot at Glen Helen Sunday by about 5 bike lengths and never looked back. Have hondas coming also, but sure are late, Maybe should wait for 05's? :eek2: :confused:

r450rr
12-19-2003, 06:22 PM
i ride red thats just what i do... ill wait till next june if they want me to.,.. i am kinda bummed though.. but still i am not going to turn my back on honda and get another quad because,, i have waited so long already there is no use to give up now///





honda is cool...lol

Guy400
12-19-2003, 06:33 PM
I just heard from someone very close to Honda and they said due to the few episodes of shock failure they've decided to go with a different shock. In an attempt to win market share against the YFZ they've switched to a triple rate shock built by Axis (who coincidentally is owned by Penske and has the means to mass produce these shocks at a lower cost). Expect to see a reduction in the MSRP as well.











































































































j/k..........boy, am I a prick or what?:devil:
*NOBODY ANSWER THAT*

AtvMxRider
12-19-2003, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Guy400
















































































j/k..........boy, am I a prick or what?:devil:
*NOBODY ANSWER THAT*


Yes, yes you are.............:devil:

BigAl
12-19-2003, 07:17 PM
yes you are

Guy400
12-19-2003, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by AtvMxRider
Yes, yes you are.............:devil:

Originally posted by BigAl
yes you are :cuss: I'm not taking a poll:cuss:



:D

250rtone
12-19-2003, 10:08 PM
Prick hmmmmmmmmm..............you had me there for a second.:D

twisted threads
12-20-2003, 06:17 AM
LOL! Guy400 that was WRONG!:D

putzld
12-20-2003, 09:40 AM
Well if the shock rumor is true, atleast Honda is fixing thier problem before the fourwheeler comes out...

AlaskaSpeed
12-20-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by quadrcr161
this is the biggest load of crap i have ever heard. i just got off the phone with 2 dealerships plus the one im getting mine from. they got the memo this morning. i wonder how many sales honda will loose because of this?

loose or LOSE?

SSRedRider
12-20-2003, 04:54 PM
Looks like i'm waiting until the 28th also. Went to the dealer today and they showed me the fax. THats when we leave for the Texas GNCC. Looks like ole faithful will have to do one more.

holeshot19
12-20-2003, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by putzld
Well if the shock rumor is true, atleast Honda is fixing thier problem before the fourwheeler comes out... f *** them stock shocks ill buy my own tell me where i can pick mine up

brian-250
12-20-2003, 05:47 PM
called my dealer this mornin said theys getin one any time now:huh

coryatver
12-20-2003, 06:21 PM
Sounds like your dealer need to turn on his fax machine

Sportrax10
12-20-2003, 07:42 PM
Planet Honda, (my local dealer) also said they are getting some any day now...

450rboy
12-20-2003, 09:35 PM
yea i was just at a Honda dealer today and i ask about the 450r and he said the same thing as you guys did.........not til the 28th of Jan.........because of the those problems that you guys talk about.........and i just love that place where i went today because the guy the had a poster behind the conter and i ask if it was for sell and he said no it ain't but you can have it.........the place where i went was called Tom Cycle......from pennsylvania........the poster is about the baja 1000 on how the trx450r won.........


and has any one actusually seen one yet..........in real life huh......if you did tell me what you though of it..........

i am going to sell my warrior in the spring so i can get one of those because there the best

kwatts400
12-21-2003, 12:38 AM
Planet Honda told me they would have them the 2nd week of Dec. and they would call me as soon as they came in. I'm still waiting on that phone call a week later!!!!:mad:

zfire_28
12-21-2003, 01:29 AM
As always Honda is making sure that all the bugs are worked out so that it don't break down on ya weeks after you buy it. cough cough raptor cough cough

kwatts400
12-21-2003, 02:29 AM
I hope so, starting to get a little :mad: about the situation. I was hoping it would be a reality for me in the begining of Jan. Starting to wonder if I would have been better off getting the yammi that was offered to me in Sept?

zfire_28
12-21-2003, 03:47 AM
I can tell ya first hand that you would not be dissapointed in the Yammi. But if you want the honda, what is an extra month........be patient. I am sure it will be worth the wait;)

Honda5
12-21-2003, 07:08 AM
my dealer might shoot me if I call him and ask any more questions but one good thing my backordered hypers I ordered from C+D will be here!!!

biohazard1.2
12-22-2003, 05:59 AM
You are about to drop 6+ thousand dollars..and probably some more for the HRC kit...some oil..maybe some nerfs, skids...

If you piss your dealer off with questions....FIND A NEW DEALER.

They need your $ more than you need thier BS and ignorance of customer service.

lukester720
12-22-2003, 07:09 AM
I agree biohazzard. There are a lot of salespeople out there who make no effort to find anything out for a would be buyer. You have to make some of these guys work for their money or otherwise they'll do nothing for you. My dealer tells me "I will call you when I get any new info you'll be the first to know." Yea whatever that's why I'm still waiting for him to call me and tell me that its not coming in till january 28th!

ATC83
12-22-2003, 07:21 AM
I'm wondering if I should just wait and by the 2005 since they will be coming out so late. I'm saying this because it sounds like Honda and Yamaha are going to make improvements every year.

lukester720
12-22-2003, 07:39 AM
Get one of them now then next year trade it in on the newest model.

Maxx_Action
12-22-2003, 08:49 AM
Hey guys...

I can appreciate your brand loyalty, but I gotta remind evryone that I have been screamin around on my YFZ for 4 months now. I gotta think that based on my experience YOU WILL NOT BE DISSAPOINTED WITH THE YAMAHA! When the 250rcame out, Yamaha couldn't compete, I don't think they ever tried, but I think they have closed that gap. I have no loyalty to any brand, in fact, I have probably had more hondas than anything else, but the YFZ is a nice nice machine. If you get pissed, don't hesitate, cause it is a screamin quad...

Maxx

12-22-2003, 11:26 AM
ummm...im sticking with honda

biohazard1.2
12-22-2003, 12:04 PM
jumbo...are you even in the market for a trx450r?

If you are not...then you probably have not researched the issue as much as those who plan on buying either the TRX or the YFZ.

either way.... good to hear that you are sticking to something...powder may help

ATC83
12-22-2003, 12:17 PM
Hey jumbo747, I seriously dought that your 1982 ATC 70 tops out at 35 mph. My 1983 ATC 110 tops out at 35 mph in high range and that was when I got it new and only weighed 110 pounds.

12-22-2003, 01:25 PM
well i was on the road & i am pretty sure it did....;) & my dad is prob. buying my 4 wheeler from me & i mgoing to get a loan for the rest of the money for either another 400ex or the trx450r :o

exrider44
12-22-2003, 10:13 PM
I saw this on another site just thought you would like to see it.

Fax? (http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/822012/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1)

exrider44
12-22-2003, 10:16 PM
How could the delay be a shock failure when the bike just won two races? Do you guys believe it is because the replacement parts arent available?

Woody_YFZ
12-22-2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by MX#9
The only positive thing my dealer told me was that the much wanted CRF250 was not going to be released till Jan. sometime and he is getting his shipment Dec. 23. Maybe just maybe we will get them sooner.

The CRF 250 has been out for almost a month already. I've seen a couple of them at the tracks and know a couple guys on boards who own them, so if your dealer hasn't gotten those yet, then you may be waiting a lot longer for the TRX.

I can't believe this keeps getting pushed back. I'm losing my patience.

MX#9
12-23-2003, 06:14 AM
I misunderstood my dealer about the CRF250. I was there Sat. and he had the bikes. He told me what he meant was that his first shipment actually got to him before the targeted date, my mistake.

Got Huevos?
12-26-2003, 10:50 PM
how old are you guys? im guessing around 12 or 13 by how childish your acting, its a ATV not a new heart. plus its only 4+ weeks away, im 16 and to me thats not very long. And Maxx_Action do back to Blue Traxx, no one likes you here, no one prolly even likes you in your own house hold and stop trying to act like the yzf is any better then the crf 450r.

r450rr
12-27-2003, 01:37 AM
i like the 450r myself...:blah:

Maxx_Action
12-27-2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Got Huevos?
how old are you guys? im guessing around 12 or 13 by how childish your acting, its a ATV not a new heart. plus its only 4+ weeks away, im 16 and to me thats not very long. And Maxx_Action do back to Blue Traxx, no one likes you here, no one prolly even likes you in your own house hold and stop trying to act like the yzf is any better then the crf 450r.

Errr.....

maybe I am confused. Either that or you can't read. I have never dissed the 450r. I think it is gonna be a great quad. I will however concede that I think it is kinda crappy the way Honda has done on this release. What is it now the third time they have changed the release date? I know several of these guys have already paid in full for their new 450s only to get another disappointing phone call from their dealer. If you go back and read my post you would see as far as bikes and off road vehicles I have had more honda than anything. a 1970 Honda trail 70, A 1972 honda 100, a 1976 cr?125, a 1978 MR250, a 1979 odyssey, and a 1983 v65 magna. I know Honda builds good stuff. Hell I even told the guys on the bluetraxx board they were nuts if they thought the YFZ was gonna be head and shoulders above the TRX 450. So until you learn to read, zip it. As far as anyone likeing me, well if they don't too bad. And my family likes me just fine thank you :D

Maxx

dads400ex
12-27-2003, 05:27 PM
Hey I was at a local dealer today and he told me it got pushed back another month, Feb. anybody hear this yet or was he misinformed, hope he was for you guy's that are waiting. I would be getting a bit upset on the wait.

SSRedRider
12-27-2003, 05:47 PM
I was told the ship date was Jan 28. That would make it the first of Feb.

dads400ex
12-27-2003, 05:50 PM
Thats what I said and he said no Feb. 28th.?????? I hope not .

SSRedRider
12-27-2003, 06:22 PM
I hope not. I am going to miss the first GNCC race now, if I wait that long thats missing the first three races, . :grr:

VIC
12-27-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Maxx_Action
Errr.....

I will however concede that I think it is kinda crappy the way Honda has done on this release. What is it now the third time they have changed the release date?

Maxx

It has been stated on Hondas website that Jan 2004 they would be avaliable, since it was unveiled in September.

2004TRX450R
12-27-2003, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Maxx_Action
I will however concede that I think it is kinda crappy the way Honda has done on this release. What is it now the third time they have changed the release date? I know several of these guys have already paid in full for their new 450s only to get another disappointing phone call from their dealer.

Well I guess you could look at it this way. Would you rather them just release them now and not have them at 100% or wait a little longer to get the product in better form?

jamiesel
01-03-2004, 02:13 AM
If they are having a hard time getting enough supplies for 1 per dealer, they are gonna drag out the rest for a LONG time. Be prepared for a real wait. It would be better to get on for 2 hundred off with a set of 400ex shocks as you could get real shocks then. It is a shame they are making people wait for shocks they will remove right away.

XC250R
01-03-2004, 07:12 AM
I would rather wait and get the quality that most of us expect, that is the reason 95% of us are Honda loyalists anyway.

SSRedRider
01-03-2004, 04:09 PM
I will second that.

jamiesel
01-03-2004, 09:24 PM
I agree with the sentiment but have never been partial to honda shocks or showa shocks for that matter, I have 3 hondas myself, not a shock shock to be found on them.

Nausty
01-03-2004, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Maxx_Action
Errr.....

maybe I am confused. Either that or you can't read. I have never dissed the 450r. I think it is gonna be a great quad. I will however concede that I think it is kinda crappy the way Honda has done on this release. What is it now the third time they have changed the release date? I know several of these guys have already paid in full for their new 450s only to get another disappointing phone call from their dealer. If you go back and read my post you would see as far as bikes and off road vehicles I have had more honda than anything. a 1970 Honda trail 70, A 1972 honda 100, a 1976 cr?125, a 1978 MR250, a 1979 odyssey, and a 1983 v65 magna. I know Honda builds good stuff. Hell I even told the guys on the bluetraxx board they were nuts if they thought the YFZ was gonna be head and shoulders above the TRX 450. So until you learn to read, zip it. As far as anyone likeing me, well if they don't too bad. And my family likes me just fine thank you :D

Maxx

well they could do like yamaha did and just release a faulty product. *cough*raptor ---- *cough* 01. I spose it is kinda wrong to keep moving the dates back. IT wouldn't of been so bad if they said that was the date from the beginning though. Just the situation it might put some people in.

XC250R
01-04-2004, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by jamiesel
I agree with the sentiment but have never been partial to honda shocks or showa shocks for that matter, I have 3 hondas myself, not a shock shock to be found on them.

Agreed, and they have released a few for the top racers. I guess when we all get to that level we won't have to worry about manufacturing delays.;)

quadmxracer
01-04-2004, 10:23 AM
I was told that Showa couldn't deliver on their shocks for the 450R and honda is now going with axis for there suspension.
Also I was told the shocks will have the same amount of travel and everthing else as the Showa's. Anyone else heard this news?

4fiddyR
01-04-2004, 12:37 PM
I heard they are now giving ya Roll Design long travels, and a free pair of Tech 8's too!:rolleyes: