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smith
12-10-2003, 10:04 AM
Holy crap, my wife just called me at work and told me that my frame just showed up!!!!! I'm going to try to get some pictures of it when I get home and try to get them up for everyone. The rest of the work day is going to take FOREVER!!!!!

12-10-2003, 12:05 PM
Is this frame for your project eton/blaster:confused:

smith
12-10-2003, 12:17 PM
Yup! I'm putting together a 25cc stroker motor that will whoop up on any other thing out there!! -wanna race?- :eek:

No, really, piecing together a new bike from the ground up and wanted to start with an aftermarket frame so that it will hold up a lot better! The anticipation of getting home is killing me, I think I'm starting to get the "flu" or a "cold", cough cough, sorry boss, gotta go home! :D

brandonpeake
12-10-2003, 12:21 PM
whats the frame for?

smith
12-10-2003, 12:24 PM
It's for a 400ex or CRF 450. but Arens told me that quite a few guys on the list are putting a YZF450 motor in it also!

It's based on a 400ex and all the 400ex stuff will bolt onto it.

Dave400ex
12-10-2003, 01:56 PM
I can't wait to see some pictures. That would be a long day of work.

smith
12-10-2003, 02:02 PM
It's been HORRIBLE!!!!! :mad:

I'm out of here in 5 minutes!!! I'll try to post pics tonight from home or get them up in the morning from work here!

Juggalo
12-10-2003, 06:15 PM
its about damn time! get some pics of that bad boy!!

pnut420
12-10-2003, 06:36 PM
Yeah I want to see pics of it, I can dream for now...

Narly R
12-10-2003, 07:58 PM
Thats AWSOME! Hurry and get those pics!:o :p

smith
12-10-2003, 08:15 PM
Ok, This is the first time that I've tried imagestation, so if it doesn't work, I'll keep monkeying with it. IF it works, here are 2 shots of it, sorry that they aren't the greatest quality. I'll try to do more as I go with it.

....ok....I can't get the photos to link from image station....If someone could either PM me on how to do it or let me know the best way to do it, I'll gladly post the pics in a heart beat!!! sorry!

pnut420
12-10-2003, 08:43 PM
It wont let us see them.

Go to the pictures and right click on then, then click properties, drag your mose across that link, it will be like this http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid62/pc0ce56f5badda95a746202c080fa718c/fc21bc58.jpg,, copy that link, then post reply on here on click on the IMG box, then paste the link in there, just do it for each picture and you are good...

Then you get

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid62/pc0ce56f5badda95a746202c080fa718c/fc21bc58.jpg

;)

smith
12-10-2003, 08:51 PM
Here's another try.....hopefully!


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid92/pa22f25c3288abf6ca2e80f764e1d23e1/fa54c31b.jpg

smith
12-10-2003, 08:53 PM
THANK-YOU pnut420!!!

Here's the 2nd one that I have. I'll try to get a few more tommorrow that are a lot better and will be taking some as I go with assembling it, but it will be stretched out over time.



http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid92/pe1d83802c62ee5359c1ef4e8e17e0911/fa54c33c.jpg

LazeR
12-11-2003, 12:15 AM
Good looking frame! Keep us posted with updated pics as you get the bike together!

zfire_28
12-11-2003, 12:31 AM
:eek2: keep them pics coming as you get her put together.

hondarider2006
12-11-2003, 12:50 AM
:eek2: Wanna buy me one??:blah:

jmoney45
12-11-2003, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by smith
It's for a 400ex or CRF 450. but Arens told me that quite a few guys on the list are putting a YZF450 motor in it also!

It's based on a 400ex and all the 400ex stuff will bolt onto it.

Cool frame. What motor are you putting in it? If crf or yzf, are you getting the radiator from Arens?

smith
12-11-2003, 07:30 AM
I plan to try to keep the pics coming as I keep putting it together.

It is going to get the CRF motor implanted into it.

The radiator will be coming from Arens also. He says that he has one that is about the same size as an 'R' but has a cooling capacity that is a LOT better.

pnut420
12-11-2003, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by smith
THANK-YOU pnut420!!!

Here's the 2nd one that I have. I'll try to get a few more tommorrow that are a lot better and will be taking some as I go with assembling it, but it will be stretched out over time.



http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid92/pe1d83802c62ee5359c1ef4e8e17e0911/fa54c33c.jpg

Looks good man, I wish I could affor it. Posting pics on here is a pain ;)

smith
12-11-2003, 10:31 AM
Posting pics is slightly inconvenient, but unless everyone wants to start paying the hosting costs for the sight, we'll have to deal with some inconveniences. We'll all live thru that!

If you're doing any conversion, I priced it out and it's cheaper to get this frame than to use a stock one and modify it! not to mention a lot simpler!

MJNOVA
12-11-2003, 11:07 AM
Looks great... So when will it be together. Maybe make it work for the Jan 31 TX GNCC...

Admin
12-11-2003, 11:26 AM
Posting pics is slightly inconvenient, but unless everyone wants to start paying the hosting costs for the sight, we'll have to deal with some inconveniences. We'll all live thru that!

LOL!

I guess the 19.95/year or 35.00 with T-shirt would break the bank for you? I guess you don't see any benefit in supporting a site that you visit daily?

12-11-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by EXriders Admin
LOL!

I guess the 19.95/year or 35.00 with T-shirt would break the bank for you? I guess you don't see any benefit in supporting a site that you visit daily?

Maybe he'll get more use out of just seeing pics and not text. Can we block members from seeing text????:D

brandonpeake
12-11-2003, 11:55 AM
if you dont mind me asking what kind of price tag is on one of those arens frames?

MJNOVA
12-11-2003, 12:02 PM
Price + $19.95 :) ;)

smith
12-11-2003, 12:09 PM
I guess that wasn't quite the point here.....I meant to imply that we can deal with inconveniences to keep the cost of the site to a minimum. Paying for the site isn't all that bad of a thing, maybe it will keep a majority of the young kids out that post useless garbage!

MJNOVA
12-11-2003, 12:14 PM
I second that.

Pappy
12-11-2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by smith
I guess that wasn't quite the point here.....I meant to imply that we can deal with inconveniences to keep the cost of the site to a minimum. Paying for the site isn't all that bad of a thing, maybe it will keep a majority of the young kids out that post useless garbage!

give that man a cigar:cool:

Dave400ex
12-11-2003, 02:13 PM
Very nice looking frame. I know John was very happy to get them done and start to ship them out.

MOUSE
12-16-2003, 02:01 PM
im waiting on one for the yz motor. hope its done soon :grr:

smith
12-16-2003, 02:15 PM
If your's turns out as well as mine did, you're going to LOVE it! So far, everything is bolting up without a problem.

MOUSE
12-16-2003, 02:19 PM
pictures man pictures :D :D :D

smith
12-17-2003, 10:29 AM
I'll try to take some more tonight as I go. When I start getting a good collection of photos, I'll start a new thread and use that for a work-in-progress thread for everyone to see.

Dave400ex
12-17-2003, 02:24 PM
What other brand of chassis products will you be using for the a-arms, swingarm, etc?

smith
12-17-2003, 02:30 PM
Arens Swing-arm, a-arms and steering stem also. Hopefully they'll be done soon too! I'll post pics as soon as I get them and when I get them on.

smith
12-18-2003, 05:33 PM
Here is where we sit with the progress...So far, so good, everything is going together very smoothly!


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid93/p8e2cedb9388e6d46316cf78bee092494/fa439979.jpg

12-18-2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by smith
I guess that wasn't quite the point here.....I meant to imply that we can deal with inconveniences to keep the cost of the site to a minimum. Paying for the site isn't all that bad of a thing, maybe it will keep a majority of the young kids out that post useless garbage! didnt keep me out... :p

hondarider2006
12-18-2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Jumbo747
didnt keep me out... :p

Me Eaither;)

gibson400ex
12-19-2003, 10:48 AM
if you dont mine me asking what kind of motor is that??? it looks like a crf450 motor.

smith
12-19-2003, 11:05 AM
Well...looks are not decieving....it IS a CRF motor in there! The chassis is made to take all EX parts (even the motor if you desire!) but it will also house a CRF or YZF motor very easily also if you so desire.

gibson400ex
12-19-2003, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by 400EXrider#91
hmm...a 400ex to crf450 frame, my guess its a crf too:o


i know i didnt read the first part because i was to excited to see the pics!

ZRider400
12-19-2003, 02:29 PM
Man thats awesome...i should do that with my CRF450:D

do all stock 400ex components like arms,swinger, gas tank.....etc....bolt right up? or does it have to be an arens arm/swinger

reason i say stock , is because if i did that conversion...i probably wouldnt be abled to afford aftermarket arms/swinger/shocks right away lol

gibson400ex
12-19-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by ZRider400
Man thats awesome...i should do that with my CRF450:D

do all stock 400ex components like arms,swinger, gas tank.....etc....bolt right up? or does it have to be an arens arm/swinger

reason i say stock , is because if i did that conversion...i probably wouldnt be abled to afford aftermarket arms/swinger/shocks right away lol



you should do that definatly and once you are done your blaster one sell it so you can do that project or if you are under 16 stay with the blaster or if you are over 16 do the crf450 project

ZRider400
12-19-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by gibson400ex
you should do that definatly and once you are done your blaster one sell it so you can do that project or if you are under 16 stay with the blaster or if you are over 16 do the crf450 project


im 16...... i only got the blaster to fixup/sell...its now completed so i am going to be selling that.

i bought the CRF after selling my z......wanted a bike.....then after 4 months i realized i cant live without a quad :eek2: so now im either gunna sell the bike and buy a EX....or it would be great to build a CRF quad.:devil:

gibson400ex
12-19-2003, 03:02 PM
ya build a crf quad. take that crf450 motor out sell the chassis of it as a rolling chassis like 416exmx is so you will sell the chassi of the dirtbike it will have everythign except for the motor and sell the blaster and build the crf450 quad. you will save 3000 dollars on a motor since you have one

ZRider400
12-19-2003, 03:42 PM
IM lookin at that pic.....is that intake boot long enough to reach the CRF carb?

smith
12-22-2003, 07:49 AM
We'll get the boot to work yet. In the pic, nothing is bolted in and the airbox/boot and carb are all just laid in as we look to try to get things ready to assemble. When the assembly is complete, we will start up a new post and take it thru step by step for everyone.

All stock ex parts should bolt up, but to get the swinger working, you'll be doing some modifying to get it to mate up with the different motor.

Greg Z
12-22-2003, 07:59 AM
how much does the frame cost?

Dave400ex
12-22-2003, 08:40 AM
Last I knew the Frames were going to be around $1,250.

Greg Z
12-22-2003, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Dave400ex
Last I knew the Frames were going to be around $1,250.



thats pretty cheap

after im done building up the EX im going to buy the frame and then Sell the EX and build my YZ / CRF quad :)

gibson400ex
12-22-2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Greg Z
thats pretty cheap

after im done building up the EX im going to buy the frame and then Sell the EX and build my YZ / CRF quad :)



that shoudl be pretty i'll!

400exrider555
12-22-2003, 08:15 PM
nice frame dude...

roostin_dale
12-22-2003, 11:26 PM
NICE!!
Im not sure about the exact frame but a Lonestar starts at $2,310

gibson400ex
12-23-2003, 07:32 AM
arens are alot cheaper than lsr. i heard some guy was getting a 426 frame from arens for 1400 and my buddy is getting a crf450 frame from there for 2,000:eek2:

Paul400ex2002
12-29-2003, 09:01 PM
so if i got this frame, i could use all my 400ex stuff, and my motor, then later on put in a crf motor without any trouble?

gibson400ex
12-29-2003, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by Paul400ex2002
so if i got this frame, i could use all my 400ex stuff, and my motor, then later on put in a crf motor without any trouble?


ya exactly:devil: might need to do a little adjustments to the frame for the crf450 motor but i dont think anything like chopping up the frame?

Dave400ex
12-29-2003, 09:05 PM
No frame mods are needed when going from the 400 to 450 motor. Just the motor, and like the radaitor and other little things.

howboutchaw
12-29-2003, 11:21 PM
My vote for Sickest project of all time.
:)

gibson400ex
12-31-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by howboutchaw
My vote for Sickest project of all time.
:)



ditto........and where are the pics:o

smith
12-31-2003, 02:11 PM
Give me until next week.....I bought a new digital camera so I can take better pics and I haven't gotten the software on the computer yet! I'll try to get the pics on the computer this weekend and up next week.

gibson400ex
12-31-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by smith
Give me until next week.....I bought a new digital camera so I can take better pics and I haven't gotten the software on the computer yet! I'll try to get the pics on the computer this weekend and up next week.


is it all finished?:confused:

smith
01-02-2004, 05:32 AM
It's not finished, but is getting closer. I am still waiting for a-arms and a swing-arm before I can fully complete it. :(

Guy400
01-02-2004, 06:42 AM
Smith, that would be great if you could do a step-by-step of this build and provide pics. I'll talk to Harlen and maybe we can post this in the Tech Articles section once it's completed. That would be great if we had something that took you through this process. One of my goals for this site in 2004 is to up the tech info.

Dave400ex
01-02-2004, 08:31 AM
Smith will you be running the new LT arm fronts or the Standard arm fronts?

smith
01-02-2004, 08:45 AM
I'll be running the Long-Travel fronts, but not his anti-bind setup that he his working on. Maybe when that new setup is out I'll try it out, but I'll go with what's going to be ready first for now!

Guy...if you want, I can do that for you. You can post it whereever you'd like, let me try to put something nice together for you and maybe I'd just put it to CD and send it and you can post it how you'd like? Just PM me at some point and we can work something out.

d-14 rider 27
01-04-2004, 11:18 PM
wheres the bottom motor mount:confused: im pretty sure it is a load bearing part because i see them break all the time, other than that looks like a nice frame, is a kicker extension required? and what kind of exhaust are you going to be using?

smith
01-05-2004, 05:15 AM
The bottom motor mount isn't installed yet. Yes, it is very necessary to have it in there. Kicker extension is required to clear the frame properly. I plan to use an FMF pipe on it.

Foxrage
01-07-2004, 10:40 AM
any updates? How much did u pay for it? Did he send a radiator, and all the mounting hardware? Thanks

Jnine
01-07-2004, 09:08 PM
Hello guys:

Mr. Smith is going to be using a new radiator we have, and he'll be getting it Friday. We're going to use this radiator for a couple YFZ quads as well.

Talk to you later!

Chef
01-07-2004, 09:31 PM
Just sent you a PM John. Thanks

Jnine
01-16-2004, 08:59 PM
Hello Guys:

Since you have been asking about the prices on this project, we've been selling the frames for the CRF & YZ for $1400, but we're going to make a package deal.

Actually a lot of guys have asked about such a package, and here is what comes with it... We are selling the entire package of frame, anti-vibe stem & clamps, a-arms, swingarm and nerfs for $2700. Your choice of clamp size and A-Arm setup (long travel or standard in the CC or motocross width) You'll never beat the package price, and you'll never get passed by any other ATV on the track.

Hope that helps you out!

gibson400ex
01-16-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Jnine
Hello Guys:

Since you have been asking about the prices on this project, we've been selling the frames for the CRF & YZ for $1400, but we're going to make a package deal.

Actually a lot of guys have asked about such a package, and here is what comes with it... We are selling the entire package of frame, anti-vibe stem & clamps, a-arms, swingarm and nerfs for $2700. Your choice of clamp size and A-Arm setup (long travel or standard in the CC or motocross width) You'll never beat the package price, and you'll never get passed by any other ATV on the track.

Hope that helps you out!


from hearing that i think i jsut changed my mind;) will the package be for the 250r to?

gibson400ex
01-16-2004, 09:13 PM
or would it be cheaper to use the 400ex frame?

Also BTW i am friends w/ Dana form Pa and this will be for my blaster/250r or blaster/400ex......i am seeing which one will be cheaper......for 2700 is it the 400ex frame one?crf?or 250r? if it is for the 250r i will be possibly getting it and if it is for the 400ex i will be possibly getting it. if you have both then i will have to see which one:D

Dave400ex
01-16-2004, 09:53 PM
That's a great setup! I added all the prices up, and your saving quite a bit of money by going with the package. Kind of sad to think that some frames alone cost that much. :eek2:

gibson400ex
01-17-2004, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Dave400ex
That's a great setup! I added all the prices up, and your saving quite a bit of money by going with the package. Kind of sad to think that some frames alone cost that much. :eek2:


i know:eek2: is this setup only for crf or yz? if it is for the 250r i will get that. If it isnt and it is for the 400ex i will get that

Pappy
01-17-2004, 08:19 AM
jnine....

pm me a price for a XC frame for a 250r. i have a feeling the LRD i have will be on ebay very shortly

gibson400ex
01-17-2004, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
jnine....

pm me a price for a XC frame for a 250r. i have a feeling the LRD i have will be on ebay very shortly


i knwo the mx ones for a 250r are 1800 im not sure on the xc ones........

Dave400ex
01-17-2004, 09:53 AM
I don't know why the kit couldn't work with a 250r frame either.

Pappy: The 250r frames are the same for MX or XC. He is making XC a-arms that come in +1 width.

Pappy
01-17-2004, 10:24 AM
well if he can make me one that uses a no link rear id consider it. the lrd is awesome i just dont like the y certain things are on it.

gibson400ex
01-17-2004, 10:42 AM
do any of you guys know if Jnine is John arens or is one of the guys who works there? I will be calling them today:cool:

Dave400ex
01-17-2004, 10:51 AM
Jnine is John. He might not be at the shop today, if he's not leave a message.

gibson400ex
01-17-2004, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Dave400ex
Jnine is John. He might not be at the shop today, if he's not leave a message.


Thats what he did. If he is on tonight, i will try to get his cell number if he has one.

Jnine
01-17-2004, 08:57 PM
Hello Guys:

I'll try to answer the questions for everyone.

On the 250R Frames..... There isn't any CC, motocross or TT versions. They are all the same. We've never made a different version for different types of racing. I was pretty careful when we did the original design, and I was really concerned about a tube layout and tube strength that would work for all applications. The frame that went 6000 miles in the desert is the same one we build now. In fact, the rider who won the "Best in the Desert" series last year is going to run one of our frames in about 2 weeks. He had tried another aluminum frame, but after 2 races had destroyed 2 frames! He'll be on a new No-Link DC-2 250R frame very soon.

Speaking of No-Link.... I am going to build a DC-2 No Link 250R frame this week. It's the first one, so I'll have to see how it goes. It might take a little creativity. Give me a little time to work it out.

CELL Phone... I don't really want to post that number on the internet. I think only about 4 people have that number, and I just leave the phone in my truck. I have Verizon, and it usually takes them about 3 days to get the message to me anyway. SO much for instant communication!!! Sometimes Pony Express would be faster.

Talk to you soon!

gibson400ex
01-17-2004, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Jnine
Hello Guys:

I'll try to answer the questions for everyone.

On the 250R Frames..... There isn't any CC, motocross or TT versions. They are all the same. We've never made a different version for different types of racing. I was pretty careful when we did the original design, and I was really concerned about a tube layout and tube strength that would work for all applications. The frame that went 6000 miles in the desert is the same one we build now. In fact, the rider who won the "Best in the Desert" series last year is going to run one of our frames in about 2 weeks. He had tried another aluminum frame, but after 2 races had destroyed 2 frames! He'll be on a new No-Link DC-2 250R frame very soon.

Speaking of No-Link.... I am going to build a DC-2 No Link 250R frame this week. It's the first one, so I'll have to see how it goes. It might take a little creativity. Give me a little time to work it out.

CELL Phone... I don't really want to post that number on the internet. I think only about 4 people have that number, and I just leave the phone in my truck. I have Verizon, and it usually takes them about 3 days to get the message to me anyway. SO much for instant communication!!! Sometimes Pony Express would be faster.

Talk to you soon!



so with the package deal could it be all 250r parts?or only crf and yz?is it with 400ex also? My dad also called your shop and none answered.......

What im trying to say is if the package is available for the 250r?in the post when you said about the package you only said the crf and yz so i was wondering could we get the same thing but w. all the 250r parts?

and if i ordered your package tommarow who long till it would be here in Mass?i have a race March 28th and would like it b4 March........if i order it from you......

Hoodeye3
01-18-2004, 05:28 PM
That package price sounds reasonable, I would like to know how much more the radiator would set me back as well also can you use a factory/ aftermarket oil cooler with the 426 or do you need one custom built?

01-19-2004, 10:24 PM
congrats go out to you john for finally getting the frame to the public!!!

and DAMN the prices is are outrageously good!!!

:D

smith have fun with that frame!!!!

Jnine
01-19-2004, 10:42 PM
Hello Guys:

We can add a radiator to the package as well. Since it is part of the package you will save about $75 on the radiator - $250 with the package deal.

On to the oil coolers. Actually we are working on an oil cooler like nobody else has. I know there are lots of larger oil tanks, but they are just that: a larger tank. They really don't do anything more to dissipate the heat, it's just that you are heating up a greater volume. However, once you get it hot, you just have more hot oil, as any of you that own one of these larger tanks knows. The problem is they don't have any way to take the heat out of the oil. I'll solve that. We've making the prototypes for that right now, and I guarantee you it works a H@*L of a lot better than anything else. We have 2 solutions that both work. We're just doing some calculations to determine which one works best.

Talk to you soon!

JA

Mxbubs
01-20-2004, 05:55 AM
I should have my Arens EX/YZ frame ready before the end of the week.....I will get pics..

Seems I am the first one, along with Mouse, to be sticking the YZ motor in it, I am having to make a few welds.....but very minor....John did a great job, frame looks very strong.

gibson400ex
01-20-2004, 07:05 AM
i should be getting mine soon.....i hope.



John when you were talking to my dad, did he seem interested?

Hoodeye3
01-20-2004, 11:30 AM
Mxbubs , I am curious to know what welding was required on your end as I am going to be working on the same project?

Mxbubs
01-20-2004, 01:42 PM
Had to weld mounts on the bottom center for the motor, a headstay, radiator mounts (my radiator is much different than most is why) and oil rezzy mounts.

MOUSE
01-20-2004, 04:31 PM
i think mxbubs got his a little early so he could put in the mounts hiself, mine is going to the powdercoater this week and hopefully will be on its way to me after that. mine will be coming with the radiator and all motor mounts to put in my yz426. all i need now is for my plastic to get here and a swingarm (rpm) and i will be good.

Mxbubs
01-20-2004, 05:33 PM
I could not see a pratical way to make the 400ex oil rezzy work.....what are you doing for an oil rezzy Mouse? I am going to build one.

gibson400ex
01-20-2004, 05:54 PM
im hopfully getting the arens rolling chassis. I think the 250r chassis will be a dc-2 no link rear setup(aresn first one i belive)and it should be here soon if i order it within the next days.

Dave400ex
01-20-2004, 06:28 PM
If John is just starting to do the DC-2 this week, I bet it will be a few weeks before he gets any out. Knowing John, it will be tested before any are sold.

gibson400ex
01-20-2004, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Dave400ex
If John is just starting to do the DC-2 this week, I bet it will be a few weeks before he gets any out. Knowing John, it will be tested before any are sold.



ya he was building one this week. sorry i misunderstood. he has one 250r frame that is unspoken for this week.

Dave400ex
01-20-2004, 06:41 PM
Sweet! I can't wait to get my 400 done. It will be full Arens!

MOUSE
01-20-2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Mxbubs
I could not see a pratical way to make the 400ex oil rezzy work.....what are you doing for an oil rezzy Mouse? I am going to build one.

john was talking about having one made that would hold close to the same amount as the stock 400 so im probably going to go with that. my frame will be done before that so that will be the final piece i need to get mine running.

Mxbubs
01-21-2004, 01:28 PM
Mouse, the stock ex oil rezzy will not work....im having fits with the one i built for my old bike, i am gonna have to build another one..... I will get pics up as soon as i get it built and installed.

MOUSE
01-21-2004, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Mxbubs
Mouse, the stock ex oil rezzy will not work....im having fits with the one i built for my old bike, i am gonna have to build another one..... I will get pics up as soon as i get it built and installed.

yeah the one john is having made is supposed to fit right in there perfectly. all i know is im dieing to get this project finished been waiting a year for this frame.

roostin_dale
01-21-2004, 08:58 PM
haha...you guys are all making me jealous talking about your aftermarket frames and rebuilds....your making me feel poor:o

MOUSE
01-30-2004, 06:20 AM
yee haaw i called john yesterday evening and gave him the info to pay for my frame. so it should be here next week!!!! i cant wait :D :D :D :D :D

PEPwalshZ440
01-30-2004, 02:57 PM
WOWOWOWOWOW I always wanted to build a quad like this....that quad is soooo sweet.
Mike

rippen400ex
02-26-2004, 08:13 PM
ya i just got my frame a few days ago and johns sending out all of the parts today and should have it all together by then end of this weekend so if its done ill post pics, i have pics now but i dont know how to post them but there on atvstore.com......

crap-banshee32
02-27-2004, 07:15 AM
Pics?

rippen400ex
02-27-2004, 07:27 PM
http://forum.atvstore.com/index.php?showtopic=359&st=0& the pics are on there not sure how to post them

crap-banshee32
02-27-2004, 07:45 PM
smith....get some more pics of your quad...im doing the same conversion...just wanted to c how yours was going..

nick

rollie
02-28-2004, 07:32 PM
sweet nice frame man!:blah:

rippen400ex
02-28-2004, 09:34 PM
just got all my parts today ill be posting pics soon need to hook the radiator up and hook a few rear end parts on but im still waititng for my sparks pipe which will be here soon and rear hipers.....

rippen400ex
02-28-2004, 09:42 PM
here it is
http://forum.atvstore.com/uploads/post-7-1078029260.jpg

Greg Z
02-28-2004, 10:56 PM
hows everythin fitting? crap banshee had a couple of problems but he bent some thingas and got them to fit in.... EX : a-arms

Dave400ex
02-29-2004, 11:53 AM
Does having the thick powdercoat effect the way some things bolt up? I know John is very particular about how the frames turned out, I can't believe there would be so many problems. I have heard problems with most aftermarket frames and stuff bolting up.

INFANTRY RACING
02-29-2004, 12:12 PM
maybe if your head wasent so far up something you'd realize his products aren't as great as you think they are. the only thing arens is good at is B.S.ing everyone in to thinking hes better than he is. if he is soooooo great how come i don't see top gnc and gncc pros running his products.:rolleyes:

INFANTRY RACING
02-29-2004, 12:21 PM
it's funny cause he comes on here bragin about his machines and how he gets his steel from the mill and how it's all tested and polished and he stuffs put through test and he builds stuff for cannaBOOMdale. but yet most people still run laegers, roll, and waslsh products...whats the deal with that

Dave400ex
02-29-2004, 12:21 PM
My head isn't any where, and I run his products so I know first hand they work. John does not B.S. Very straight forward guy that knows what he is doing. Just because you had some problem with a part, doesn't mean his stuff is junk. Guys have problems with every brand of part, they must all be junk then too. At least John will stand behind his products if they are his error. The reason top Pro's don't run his stuff is because he does not pay them off...

INFANTRY RACING
02-29-2004, 12:24 PM
ohh i'm sorry you got his steering stem... i could make a strong one outta a coat hanger and bubble gum. but he did test his against other so why did his stand up to one roll over while doing a BICYCLE ON SOFT DIRT

Dave400ex
02-29-2004, 12:32 PM
Actually I will be picking up my 400ex frame and LT +1 a-arms in a couple weeks. Can't say I've ever heard John brag about his products either, he just stands up for them. Hey it's ok you go pay your $1,200 for Roll, Walsh, etc a-arms when your paying half just because of the name on it.

INFANTRY RACING
02-29-2004, 02:07 PM
atleast everyone else doesn't lie to you and tell you it will be there in a few weeks:rolleyes:

Dave400ex
02-29-2004, 04:15 PM
That is a problem that many companies in this industry have problems with. Some just get ahead of themselves and say things they shouldn't. My brother's motor from TC that was said to be done in 3 months, took 6. I know motor builders can be real bad about getting stuff done on time. Some chassis builders do the same thing. I myself am in no hurry, as I am still waiting on other parts, plus just had knee surgery this week! INFANTRY I have no problem with you and am not sure of your problems, but I'm sure John could get them fixed and you could be a happy person running Arens again.

rippen400ex
02-29-2004, 04:27 PM
well i just about finished my quad up i havent put the radiator on and the pipe....i actually had very few problems with my frame and the few things i had a problem with, i was to retarded to see how it worked but then figured it out......everything matched up almost perfect and also john is very good about getting you your parts and helps you out in any way possiable......he sent me a huge list on what you should do to hook up parts and how to hook them up.....i only have a few more things to hook up but heres where i am so far....http://forum.atvstore.com/uploads/post-7-1078095302.jpg

Dave400ex
02-29-2004, 04:37 PM
That thing turned out sweet! I like it a lot. I must say the only thing I would have done different is PC the subframe and swingarm! Also get some pictures of the radiator.

rippen400ex
02-29-2004, 04:42 PM
ya i know i ran out of time but next season i want the subframe black i think and the swingarm red not sure tho
my swingarm is silver becasue i needed it from john asap and they only pc red on a few days and silver is every day so..i liek it alot tho its going to run like a raped ape!! lol

rippen400ex
02-29-2004, 05:11 PM
heres arens swingarm it looks really strong too....http://forum.atvstore.com/uploads/post-7-1078099445.jpg

rippen400ex
03-04-2004, 06:59 PM
here it is people its all done.....http://forum.atvstore.com/uploads/post-7-1078451241.jpg

rippen400ex
03-04-2004, 07:01 PM
anotherhttp://forum.atvstore.com/uploads/post-7-1078451367.jpg

crap-banshee32
03-04-2004, 07:12 PM
what arms are those?

crap-banshee32
03-04-2004, 07:22 PM
this is where i am....motor and radiator mounts should be here tomorrow..


ill get a pics of arens radiator in a bit also

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid105/p09f764bbc6b8fcd9901753f1fefd2a33/f970e358.jpg

crap-banshee32
03-04-2004, 07:23 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid105/p0dc9aec700fe0987313a32947af79368/f970e354.jpg

Dave400ex
03-04-2004, 07:44 PM
Wow that turned out very sweet. I like it. If I remember right he also has the Herrmann a-arms.

crap-banshee32
03-04-2004, 07:59 PM
i dont think there herrmann....they look more like roll....

im almost positive there not herrmann.

rippen400ex
03-04-2004, 08:06 PM
thanks all there roll design like you said......

crap-banshee32
03-04-2004, 08:18 PM
:)

ScreaminZ400
03-04-2004, 08:54 PM
awesome man

crap-banshee32
03-04-2004, 09:05 PM
hey rippen400ex....i might be asking u a few question about some things when i go to put mine together...

thanks
nick

gibson400ex
03-05-2004, 05:03 AM
DANA - What rear tires are you running on the arens crf450?

brandonpeake
03-05-2004, 06:36 AM
what raiator are u guys running?
is that the one from john?

boogiechile
03-05-2004, 08:51 AM
Hey rippen and crap-banshee, are the radiators you guys using the ones from Arens? do you know what he charges for just the radiator?

Sorry if this is already posted, did not have time to read all 10 pages.

crap-banshee32
03-05-2004, 01:35 PM
yea...i got my radiator from john....he makes them so they fit perfect in his frames....i think i paid like 250 for mine.....


Nick

rippen400ex
03-06-2004, 04:07 PM
sry guys have been really busy....nick ill be glad to help ya out with what ever you need.....im using rear 8inch hipers dual beadlock and turfs also i have a pair of kenda klaws.....the radiator i have is a n arens and so far its been working very well, i really like it.....i think they cost around 200-250 i forget....

crap-banshee32
03-06-2004, 07:57 PM
did u get air shrouds yet?

how do they fit around his radiator...and what brand are they....im gunna need some.

thanks
nick

Hoodeye3
03-07-2004, 01:19 PM
Rippen,
Have you had her out running yet, how is everything?
Any regrets or anything you would have done differently?

rippen400ex
03-07-2004, 01:54 PM
umm i dont have any shrouds because i called john and he said that he made the radiator so that the fins in the front of the radiator are the protective fins and you really dont need them.....but if you want to get them i think its a 250R but call him to double check..he said if you get them might need to dril new holes in the shrouds so they fit...........ive been riding her alot lately its really sweet. The power is awsome, and i think it deffinatly keep up with the YFZs. I have no regrets at all about this quad, i really like the frame to it sits you the same as if you where on your ex and only thing you have to get use to is the throtal responce. But its wicked!!:)

crap-banshee32
03-09-2004, 04:11 PM
the coil that came with the crf( stock) does not fit where the coil goes for the 400?

what did u do about this?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid107/p15dd32a22558458a0459031dd1e2bafe/f9641fea.jpg

rippen400ex
03-09-2004, 04:37 PM
you can either make a adaptor that hooks to the mounting hole and then thread the other side so it fits or....call john and im sure he will send you the little peice!

crap-banshee32
03-09-2004, 04:41 PM
ok.....im trying to get ahold of him right now....

to ask him where my mounts are...

and ill ask about that 2.

i just tried putting the gas tank on...and it doesnt slide down all the way...did u have this ploblem?


thanks
nick

rippen400ex
03-09-2004, 04:51 PM
well i did have that problem and the tank wont fit over the frame rail right....he gave me spacers for that to that go between the gas tank and the frame and also that white plastic peice that goes over the engine...you have to cut that in the back where the white plastic peice really dips down called the heat sheild i think ill get a pic if you need it let me know...

crap-banshee32
03-09-2004, 05:31 PM
i dont have that white plastic peice...i use a custom peice i made with padding around it for under the tank...it works alot better.

so i wont have to cut nothign for that to fit.

i just hope to get my mounts and my swinger back and start putting some more stuff together

another quick question...where did u mount all your razzis...(all 3)

and what route did u take for the rear one to go up front

thanks
nick

rippen400ex
03-09-2004, 05:41 PM
not sure if you can see it on the pics on here but the front rezies i mounted right in front of the radiator on the frame rails right behind the shocks..... and the rear i moved the fitting that goes in the shock where the hose connects to i moved that forward towards the radiator and ran the hose along the left frame rail right under the plastic and up the frame rail right by your leg ill highlight it in the pic..

rippen400ex
03-09-2004, 05:46 PM
if you can see that one pic i posted on page 9 you can see the front rezzies and the rear rezzie is right on the frame rail right in fornt of the radiator i have the hose going right over it and it fits perfect tell me if ya undaerstand what im saying....if notill get pics ofit

crap-banshee32
03-09-2004, 05:46 PM
ok thanks...i think i know waht your talking about

crap-banshee32
03-09-2004, 06:07 PM
so there are actually 2 rezzis on the one frame rail...?

do u have that right?

rippen400ex
03-09-2004, 07:56 PM
umm no actually ill get a pic tomm to confusing to type

crap-banshee32
03-09-2004, 08:01 PM
here how mines lookin...

i went up the right frame rail with the rear,

i think u have longer front lines than me....b.c i cant get mine to the part of the frame behind the shocks...and like in front of the radiator.

so i think this set up will work for me

what do u think

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid107/pb7b638eec8fda6b3cb6ebec27d46803f/f963a58e.jpg

crap-banshee32
03-09-2004, 08:03 PM
i know, i need a second hose clamp on the one rezzie...

i need to get one....i ran out...eeek

rippen400ex
03-09-2004, 08:07 PM
okay the rear rezzie i mounted mine on the frame rail right behind the one you have there..........but id wait till you mount the radiator cause its easier to get the hose matched up..but ya if that works keep it but id put it on the frame rail right behind that one...

crap-banshee32
03-09-2004, 08:11 PM
ill c how this works....and ill change it if i need to

rippen400ex
03-09-2004, 08:15 PM
ill get a pic tommrow of it but any more questions before i go to bed? like about the carb boot or anyhting

crap-banshee32
03-09-2004, 08:25 PM
nope...nothing right now....i hope my motor and radiator mounts come tomorrow though

thanks for the help..

night:)





Nick

rippen400ex
03-09-2004, 08:27 PM
yep no problem just leave me some good feedbakc with john lol night

MOUSE
03-10-2004, 02:53 PM
actually i wouldnt mind seeing or hearing about the carb mounting and the boot to the airbox. any details that can be given would be apreciated by me as im doing this project with arens frame and a yz motor. rippen has already helped me out alot but would prolly help out more people here .

crap-banshee32
03-10-2004, 03:52 PM
heres where i am now.....still waiting on motor and radiator mounts...and my swingarm

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid107/pbe543473cd920eb7b5118524727e938b/f961a448.jpg

rippen400ex
03-10-2004, 06:29 PM
looking good man

rippen400ex
03-10-2004, 06:41 PM
well for the air boot from the carb to the head you have to get hose from goodYear(or an auto parts store) part #60393 (Hose with a slight arc to it)....after that the carb will point more towards the air box instead of towards the frame rail......After that you have to make a extension tap from your air box to the sub frame where the air box hooks to......make it about a 1'' longer or so and that will make the air box sit closer to the carb so the stock ex air box boot will hook right up to the crf carb...i hope i explained it well