midsouth cotton mouth

[exman]

Okay who is riding the next midsouth, believe it is cottonmouth in greenville KY. Anyone race this one before, whats the course like, besides cold hahaha and yes they brought back the 40 plus class yeeeee

[remlapr]

I will be there with several others from kentuckyriders.com. I'll be racing whatever the lowest MSWS class is. It will be my first non-local race...

[rowlrag]

I'll be there.:D

[bradley300]

i'll proabably be there on a new ride

[Braff1]

I'll be there. I just hope this track is not as tight as the Lakeview track. I felt more like a bull dozer the first lap.

[exman]

just mow down some of those trees for us old men..ha ha ha we really appreciate it

[dwcrash]

:D Hopefully I'll get to make this one. The only one I raced so far this year was Lakeview and I thought the course was too tight. I raced Cottonmouth last year and the course was pretty good last year. They had some two way traffic and one BIG mudhole. I didn't see them cause I was getting ready,but they said dirtbikes were hung up to their seats. I got hung twice but finally got thru it the last two laps. Hope to see you there and good luck!:D

I"ll be flying outa town that day so i won't be there...:(

[ILGNCC400EX]

i think me and the boys gonna try 2 make it.

[remlapr]

Originally posted by Rico
I"ll be flying outa town that day so i won't be there...:(

LOL - Rico you better tell Bradley that. He told me he was going down with you...

[bradley300]

i said i didnt know, figured he would. so you still coming to the party on the 6th rico?

[Bill Fuller]

I plan on making it.I only got to do about 3 miles last year due to a steering stem breaking in half:mad: They need to do somthing about the 2 way traffic though.

i need to sign up for the midsouth races...sounds like fun :D

[Bill Fuller]

No need to sign up,just show up.Check the websight for race schedule and class structure.WWW.MSWS.ORG

[cdalejef]

Where has little d been Bill?

[cdalejef]

I heard that the famous Johnny C is coming! :eek2:
If he doesn't show, he is gonna wear the pink skirt in TX! :devil:

[PATTE440]

I tried to find out what time the race starts but i never could find anything could any of you tell me what time they start. thank ya

[exman]

I think the quads start at 1:30

[bradley300]

quads start at 2, but be early. mid souths are a lot more punctual then the nats

Originally posted by bradley300
quads start at 2, but be early. mid souths are a lot more punctual then the nats

2 central time,,,,,3:00 eastern time..

[Bill Fuller]

Little d has been to the races he DNF at Boxhollow.He claims he can't find the time to work on his scooter so he's been riding his Ol' mans 400(yes the same 400 he brought to H/M).:rolleyes:

[400exmom]

:D ive been thinkin bout gettin on the line and what the track will be like since last week. im gonna try my best to get down there and stay home and cry if i cant..

[WOOLIN]

I will be there!

[dhines]

Yeah, I'm around - been spending a lot of time at other sites - checking out info on the YFZ. I'm real close to dropping cash on one of those.

And I have a new job... and the wife and I are buying a 200 year old house that needs a lot of work... so I just have no time to get my machine running. Now the old man's 400 is down too after the last MSWS race so I have nothing to ride this weekend unless I bust ***** to get his or mine fixed.

It aint easy pimpin'.

[cdalejef]

We'll get to work!!!

[markk]

HEy the Centralia boys will be there and watch out for those 440's they will be right infront of the yamahass

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by markk
HEy the Centralia boys will be there and watch out for those 440's they will be right infront of the yamahass :eek:

I'll be there! and yes I still have the pink skirt and I will be more than happy to han it over to Johnny C if he doesn't show!!!!!!!

[Johnny & Monica]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bill Fuller
I plan on making it.I only got to do about 3 miles last year due to a steering stem breaking in half:mad: They need to do somthing about the 2 way traffic though. [/QUOTE
Going to try making it down there ,An see how you do on my old c-dale ,I guess I`m going to have to ride a pretator sold my Z400 an gas gas waiting on a honda like everyone esle.I`ll try finding you.]

[Bill Fuller]

Sounds good hope to see you there!

[jesshamner]

I'll be there...probably be hanging around the TQS trailer and the kentuckyriders.com group. Won't be racing though. Just offering a hand where needed.

[remlapr]

General MSWS question for anyone that knows. It's 1.5 hours, but is it always 3 laps for the Pro's? Or do they sometimes do 4 if it's a fast track? I'm wanting to know so that if I get lapped on my 2nd lap I'll know I'm on my last lap and I don't have to worry about conserving energy for the third. But if the Pro's hit the scoring tent at the end of their third lap and it's not yet at the 1.5 hour mark I would think they would send them back out for a 4th?

Then what if I don't finish my 2nd until after the 1.5 hour mark, but the Pro's are already out on their fourth? Would they stop me or send me out for a third since the Pro's aren't done?

[Braff1]

Just keep on racin until they tell you to stop.

[remlapr]

Originally posted by Braff1
Just keep on racin until they tell you to stop.

LOL, gee thanks Dan...

[Braff1]

well, that is what I do.

[rowlrag]

9 mile course-99% guarantee we do only 3 laps. I can't say as I remember doing anymore.

[400exmom]

im out i cant hitch a ride:( :( :(












:( :( i had some ears to grab..

[cdalejef]

On a few of the fast tracks, we will go 4 laps but its not very often. Yes, they will send you back out as long as the pro's are still out.

Ahhhhh Kim......:(

[400exmom]

still workin on it-

[remlapr]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
On a few of the fast tracks, we will go 4 laps but its not very often. Yes, they will send you back out as long as the pro's are still out.

Ahhhhh Kim......:(


Thanks Jeff, that's what I was wanting to know. I need to use as much strategy as possible :o

somebody get pics of the race action. Jess get jeffs digi cam and snap plenty of pics.


:cool:

[Johnny & Monica]

who`s going to have the biggest bomb fire?brrrrrr

[jesshamner]

I might as well make myself useful. I forgot to bring the digi cam to school so if you want pictures...somebody needs to cough up a camera. Don't worry...its in good hands!:devil: :devil: :devil:

[1rancher]

DAN let me and Jess have it we will get all the good pics:devil:

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by 1rancher
DAN let me and Jess have it we will get all the good pics:devil: I heard about the pics you and bradley take!

[remlapr]

Anybody familiar with this place wanna take a guess at how muddy it's going to be?

[cdalejef]

you should be used to the mud after racing Haspin!

[bradley300]

pin it to win it remlapr! you'll do fine, momentum is your best friend!

[PATTE440]

i tried the momentum thing and it only worked once or twice but the rest it was either get stuck or get stuck. i dotn think very many people made it the race without gettin stuck once.

[400exmom]

comon im dyin over here what happen'd who finished where??? jeff?? kev??someone

[lshonda310]

I din't finish, not unusual, but I didn't start either:D

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by PATTE440
i tried the momentum thing and it only worked once or twice but the rest it was either get stuck or get stuck. i dotn think very many people made it the race without gettin stuck once. I didn't get stuck!!!:blah:

[465Stroker]

Does'nt anyone want to post the results? Com'n Jeffy - How did everyone do?:confused:

[400exmom]

Originally posted by 465Stroker
Does'nt anyone want to post the results? Com'n Jeffy - How did everyone do?:confused: yeah i have to live intervieniously through you guys;) give it up i gotta get to work sometime

[cdalejef]

Ok....the results aren't posted yet but I can do the guys that I know by memory.


Pro
Me...1st
Eric Conner....2nd
Justin Story....3rd
John Rowling (Rowlrag)......9th

4-stroke A
Jeremy Wisdom (jmarwiseman)...5th

4-stroke B
Brian Adams (BA)...1st

C 25+
Fred Mudd (woolin)...3rd

C 16-25 Mike Summers (can't remember screen name)...4th

Beginner
Kyle Coffee...2nd

I know there where quite a few exriders there but I'm not sure how they all did. I'll post all the results when MidSouth release's them tonight or tomorrow.

[98Lakota]

Way to go Jeff....you passed me on my first lap. I was stuck in the mud with about 10 others.

That 16-25 C 5th place rider was my brother...

[ILGNCC400EX]

well jeff u didint win it on the holeshot

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by 98Lakota
Way to go Jeff....you passed me on my first lap. I was stuck in the mud with about 10 others.

That 16-25 C 5th place rider was my brother... Oh sorry, Mike Summers must have got 4th.

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by ILGNCC400EX
well jeff u didint win it on the holeshot Thats the beauty of XC....the races aren't won on the start! ;)

[remlapr]

Well I wasn't able to run my big tires so I raced with my 20" holeshots that only have about 50% tread, that was a mistake. I finally got stuck so bad I ended up sitting there for about 40 minutes and having to be pulled out by a utility that came along. The scoring was over by the time I got back so I DNF'd :( . I thought the track was awesome for the most part, not really that many hills, but tons of nasty off-camber. This was my first mid-south and I couldn't believe how tight it was in some sections, then I actually heard a bunch of guys complaining about how open it was for a mid-south??

[Johnny & Monica]

Anyone see my fender an nerf bar laying out there ?knock my front tire off the bead the second lap.Think I was doing ok thougth untill all that.

[cdalejef]

Some of it was really fast and others were fairly tight. I thought it was a great track overall, had a little bit of everything!

[Braff1]

I finished 4th in the beginner class. Considering I lost my contact len about 2/3 through the 2nd lap so I finished the race doing a Ray Charles. You would not believe how much losing one contact messes with your overall vision. Got hung up 1 time and that was on the last lap with about 3 miles to go. Big Thanks goes out to Ryan (Remlapr) for helping me get out.

[remlapr]

Anybody know who the guy was racing Pro (I think) on a yellow Z? I was stuck behind a guy that was stuck in the mud blocking the main line and the guy on the yellow Z was coming around to lap up and just went ballz out down through the woods to the right of us where there was no trail for probably 100 yards just plowing everthing over, and he was probably in third gear hammer down! It was the craziest thing I've ever seen while racing...

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by Braff1
I finished 4th in the beginner class. Considering I lost my contact len about 2/3 through the 2nd lap so I finished the race doing a Ray Charles. You would not believe how much losing one contact messes with your overall vision. I know that feeling all to well! :(

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by remlapr
Anybody know who the guy was racing Pro (I think) on a yellow Z? I was stuck behind a guy that was stuck in the mud blocking the main line and the guy on the yellow Z was coming around to lap up and just went ballz out down through the woods to the right of us where there was no trail for probably 100 yards just plowing everthing over, and he was probably in third gear hammer down! It was the craziest thing I've ever seen while racing... Did he have on a black jersey?

[remlapr]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Did he have on a black jersey?


hmm - maybe. All I say was a yellow blur and small trees flying everywhere LOL. You lapped me near the same spot I think, then the guy on the yellow Z came along not far behind you that's why I'm thinking he was running Pro. At the time I thought it was Johnny G, but Bradley told me he didn't make it to the race. Whoever it was the guy was fearless!

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by remlapr
hmm - maybe. All I say was a yellow blur and small trees flying everywhere LOL. You lapped me near the same spot I think, then the guy on the yellow Z came along not far behind you that's why I'm thinking he was running Pro. At the time I thought it was Johnny G, but Bradley told me he didn't make it to the race. Whoever it was the guy was fearless! The guy that finished 2nd was Eric Conner, he was on a green KFX. He was about 40 seconds back. 3rd was on a yellow 400ex and he was about 3 minutes back.

[PATTE440]

I came out of the hole in 3rd in 16-24 B got stuck bigger then crap twice. after i got out i was doing my best to cetch up and then some o bout slammed into the rear of my 400ex and knocked me into a tree on the L front where the arm that attachs to the tie rod on the spindle broke off before i made it to the chexkpoin on the first lap. It blew my mind i have never seen anything like that happen and it didnt even hurt the tie rod. bought a new spindle today there went 60 bucks.

[jesshamner]

Originally posted by PATTE440
I came out of the hole in 3rd in 16-24 B got stuck bigger then crap twice. after i got out i was doing my best to cetch up and then some o bout slammed into the rear of my 400ex and knocked me into a tree on the L front where the arm that attachs to the tie rod on the spindle broke off before i made it to the chexkpoin on the first lap. It blew my mind i have never seen anything like that happen and it didnt even hurt the tie rod. bought a new spindle today there went 60 bucks.

I felt sorry for you man. You asked us for directions to get out of the trail. We kept walking up the trail and found your quad off to the side of the trail. It was a sad sight to see that you were already out of the race. You have a nice looking EX.

[WOOLIN]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Ok....the results aren't posted yet but I can do the guys that I know by memory.


Pro
Me...1st
Eric Conner....2nd
Justin Story....3rd
John Rowling (Rowlrag)......9th

4-stroke A
Jeremy Wisdom (jmarwiseman)...5th

4-stroke B
Brian Adams (BA)...1st

C 25+
Fred Mudd (woolin)...4TH

C 16-25 Mike Summers (can't remember screen name)...4th

Beginner
Kyle Coffee...2nd

I know there where quite a few exriders there but I'm not sure how they all did. I'll post all the results when MidSouth release's them tonight or tomorrow.
HEY!! I GOT 3RD!!:mad: :mad:

[cdalejef]

Sorry Fred O :(

[exman]

got 8th in the old man class (senior), got hung up on the root/vine on the big mound that was all rutted out, the one were you had to got to the left or right, took me forever to get off, made it through the big mud pit all three times..i was sweating that. ....got bottomed out on one rutted area and had to get off and push some...no damage on quad and never stopped, now if i can just pick up the speed hahaha right!!!

[rowlrag]

I tried jumping over Cliff King to come up short hitting his back tires resulting in just my body passing him for a brief moment in the first mile:rolleyes: Not to mention the hurting hip from the landing, after finding air again and fingering the packed mud outta HMF, got her goin and finished:mad:

[GNCC225]

Those dirtbike ruts were so deep, my front tire dropped into one of them and I went over the bars when I got back up I noticed my front tire was off the bead. I guess I need some beadlocks.
I also wanted to say there was bunch of nice quads in that series. For a true harescramble there were some very fast sections but it was a fun track.

[Johnny & Monica]

It was a awsome an well organized race.The track was one rutted mess,But they ain`t suppose to be smooth sailing.Not as many hill climb`s I was hoping to see.But it was better than any mo. race I ever been too.The lodge an buffet was real cool.I would like to do more of the series if we wasn`t so far.You guy`s are so lucky to live in the eastern states an only have to drive 2-5 hours.Anyone see a nerfbar or left rear fender in the mud?

[cdalejef]

Top 25 overall:

JEFF STOESS Canondle011 4 1 1:31:42 QP

ERIC J. CONNER Kawa 005 4 2 1:32:25 QP

JASON STORY Honda 008 4 3 1:36:03 QP

DOUGLAS R. HAYES Honda 304 4 4 1:37:24 Q30A

JARED GRAVES Yamaha 200 4 5 1:37:40 Q4SA

JEREMY MCCORD Honda 012 4 6 1:37:53 QP

JASON GRIFFITH Honda 010 4 7 1:38:35 QP

RICKIE DAVIS Honda 001 4 8 1:38:49 QP

BRAD BREEDLOVE Honda 002 4 9 1:38:58 QP

DALE MADDING 203 4 10 1:39:15 Q4SA

DUSTY E. ROSS Honda 106 4 11 1:39:18 QOA

GREG WAMPLER Honda 302 4 12 1:39:34 Q30A

KEVIN SMITH Yamaha 303 4 13 1:40:38 Q30A

BRIAN K. DEBREE Suzuki 007 4 14 1:41:12 QP

ERIC SIRLS Honda 202 4 15 1:43:28 Q4SA

RICHARD STANLEY Kawa 306 4 16 1:43:28 Q30A

JON GARRISON Kawa 206 4 17 1:43:54 Q4SA

JAKE KRETZSCHNAR Honda 104 4 18 1:44:02 QOA

JEREMY WISDOM Canondle207 4 19 1:44:18 Q4SA

TRAVIS PERRY Honda 465 4 20 1:44:42 Q25B

JERED ASHMORE Honda 100 4 21 1:44:43 QOA

DARYL HORNBURGER Honda 560 4 22 1:44:54 QS

411 4 23 1:45:06 Q16B

BRIAN ROBEY Honda 461 4 24 1:45:11 Q25B

BRYAN D. REDFORD Honda 466 4 25 1:45:15 Q25B

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by markk
HEy the Centralia boys will be there and watch out for those 440's they will be right infront of the yamahass Markk......where are those 440's? And what was it that you were saying about Cannondales in that other thread?

[remlapr]

Hurray! I didn't DNF! I guess scoring one lap was enough to at least avoid the DNF. I ended up 10 out of 14 in class with 2 of the people DNF'ing. Looking at the times, even if I wouldn't have got stuck for 40 minutes on my second lap I would have only came in 1 or 2 spots better :o

Well my goal was to not DNF and not come in last, so I guess I'm happy, although I definately feel like I could have done better...

[cdalejef]

finishing is a great goal for your first several races!!! Its not as easy as it looks is it?

[remlapr]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
finishing is a great goal for your first several races!!! Its not as easy as it looks is it?

You can say that again. I don't know how you guys ride that hard for that long. This was my second "real" solo race and I DNF'd the first one (Haspin mud-fest), so I guess I'm moving in the right direction at least :D

I look at it like this, most of the guys I know (outside of the people I ride with) wouldn't even have the ballz to get out there in the first place. Their idea of being adventurous is staying out past the time they told their wives they would be home :rolleyes:

[1rancher]

Hey I would say I hang out with you every now and then and I have a ton of adventure in my life to much most of the time.

I think I have been spoiled in racing so far in the ute class at Haspin the first race I snapped my axel and still got 4th in the class and went to the buddy race and got 1 in that class, theres not much compition in that class but its still fun. I was a bout ready to steal on of the old guys ite yesterday at the race and give the guy on the Rincon a challenge.

[PATTE440]

Originally posted by jesshamner
I felt sorry for you man. You asked us for directions to get out of the trail. We kept walking up the trail and found your quad off to the side of the trail. It was a sad sight to see that you were already out of the race. You have a nice looking EX.

thanxs for the directons out i needed to go and get a beer after that. i got a new spindle today and found out i had a bent rotor too this racing is gettin expensive.

[remlapr]

Originally posted by 1rancher
Hey I would say I hang out with you every now and then and I have a ton of adventure in my life to much most of the time.

I think I have been spoiled in racing so far in the ute class at Haspin the first race I snapped my axel and still got 4th in the class and went to the buddy race and got 1 in that class, theres not much compition in that class but its still fun. I was a bout ready to steal on of the old guys ite yesterday at the race and give the guy on the Rincon a challenge.

I said outside the guys I ride with. The first time I saw you launch that rancher 6ft in the air off a trail jump I knew you wuz crazy :D

[400exmom]

congrates on the #1!!~:cool:

great pics......:o

[cdalejef]

Kristal took a bunch of pics so maybe we can con her into posting them here or on Kentuckyriders. My friend Scott went and took some digital video, how do you make still photos from a digital video camera?
Rico, you know how to post parts of that video on our web site?

[Braff1]

Here is me getting the holeshot in the beginner class. No if I can just go faster in the woods.http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/p69163f499c9154d1de890132020a4934/fa5a5d0a.jpg

Bradley's new ride that only goes 2.5 laps before running out of gas http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/pc7786f724382fdd2eedb540aee29405e/fa5a5e73.jpg

Judjing by the number of people left C class 25+ http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/pe14f1e94d83556a248ed91e3f43f2973/fa5a5e27.jpg

Here's another http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/pe7be935285c6a95e04ccab5727ea0b72/fa5a5dc0.jpg
Evidently my daughter was more interested in the race and didn't take many pics

Here is one of Kentuckyriders helping a racer out.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/p6037610b361ca310e153c377b59e1ead/fa5a5c87.jpg

[cdalejef]

Great pics Braff!!!

[remlapr]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Great pics Braff!!!

He left out the one of you. Here you go:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/p2a7afeb7a0b2c84714de31ca8e702327/fa5a5cc9.jpg


The url for the full size is:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/p2a7afeb7a0b2c84714de31ca8e702327/fa5a5cc9.jpg.orig.jpg

[PATTE440]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Markk......where are those 440's? And what was it that you were saying about Cannondales in that other thread?

Hey Jeff i was the one he was talkin bout with the 440 and i take no pride in all that Markk has been saying. I got smoked out of the hole by to yamas but drag speed is completly different then woods speed. ive seen people do well on a 250x against 400 ex z 400 and the such in a woods race. Congrats on your win and im sorry that Markk is a dum bass lol

[400exmom]

rofl~ yah mark stfu on the dales bro:mad:

[cdalejef]

LOL....its all good! How did you end up?

[ILGNCC400EX]

well he hit a one of those ky jumpin trees broke a spindel in the first 4 mile.he not 2 happy

[cdalejef]

DOH!!!

[PATTE440]

Originally posted by ILGNCC400EX
well he hit a one of those ky jumpin trees broke a spindel in the first 4 mile.he not 2 happy


hey there pit crew ya left one thing out i got slammed into it buy another quad that didnt see what i seen. Hey jeff i talked to you about my elkas and it helped the rear wantin to jump up but im gonna call elka and see if i can get em softend up a bit. they beat me to death those long straights were killer 4th gear pinned and i was bouncing around every where

[bradley300]

the ole blaster was the same way.lol

it was my first ride on it and i like it, although the susp. need some work.

even smoked a 300ex in one of the open sections:devil: :D

[PATTE440]

I think i got my elkas lined out i spent about 45 min on the phone with em and i wasnt running enough ground clearance i had around 7.5" and they told me i should be around 10". I havent got to ride it yet but it feels better just sittin on it.

[remlapr]

Originally posted by PATTE440
I think i got my elkas lined out i spent about 45 min on the phone with em and i wasnt running enough ground clearance i had around 7.5" and they told me i should be around 10". I havent got to ride it yet but it feels better just sittin on it.


What did they tell you to do? Just crank down the ride height to raise up the front end?

[PATTE440]

Yeah they said that since i race XC i need to run around 10" frame clearance so crank the preload ring down. they said to measure with rider on the quad just a few " in front of the fron motor mount and at the pegs to get fron an back the same height or it will throw things off. i took mine for a lil spin today and it felt like it ride a LOT better but i didnt really get inot real rough stuff. good luck