Snowmoblies

[bluebaron]

Which do you prefer;)

[hondafox440]

I don't have a sled but I have to support Arctic Cat since I have an Arctic Cat utility quad :)

[ReconRider25]

i voted for arctic cat. nothing beats the reliability and performance of a cat.:devil:

[2001400ex]

I voted for ski-doo, in my opinion nothing beats a ski-doo...they all rip, look great, and just have a quality I think is higher then Yamaha Polaris or Arctic Cat. I ride a Polaris though...I want to get something newer and faster. I have an RXL 650:o

[redroost85]

The guy that does all my powdercoating is really into sleds. All he rides is Polaris and swears by them...no not at them, lol!

I don't ride sleds too much, but those Polaris's fricking fly. I have seen his Polaris's smoke many built sleds. :D

[TGW_400ex]

I picked artic cat becuase they last, ski-doo's are alright too. Polaris and Yamaha Plez:rolleyes:

[nuclearkielbasa]

You guys that use the words "Arctic Cat" and "reliability" in the same sentence are scaring me.

[2001400ex]

You forgot the master of them all...BLADE! If I had the 15 grand to spend I'd buy a BLADE in a heartbeat. GOD they are so sexy!:blah:

[bluebaron]

Originally posted by nuclearkielbasa
You guys that use the words "Arctic Cat" and "reliability" in the same sentence are scaring me.

yea i agree i have had a articat zr 580 for some years and every year something breaks, i swear i cant go within 2 miles of the house then it breaks

[skemp]

Polaris; in my opinion the best overall package offered by the manufacturers (looks, power, ergos, reliability, and performance)

[TRX250X]

Ski-Doo all the way. Cats are ok too. I don't know too much about the yammies, and it seems like a lot of the polaris sled owners I know bought them just b/c that's what their friends have.

[4TraxRider]

I love Ski-doos for doing a little of everything and having fun doing it. I'd pick a Cat for sno-cross though. But I trail ride and do some free-style and snowcross and my old MXZ i still up there everytime nomatter what.

[blondie69]

There's a difference between a Ski-doo and like an Artic Cat? I always thought ski-doo's were sleds...guess I was wrong, cuz everyone round here says ski-doo when they mean snowmobile/sled. :huh

arctic cat. beats all. :macho :blah:

[Rip_Tear]

Skidoo will likely always be my brand...

Arctic cat's are a bit hard on the gas, Polaris is over weight and hard on gas, Yamaha's are hard on gas and I don't like their non water friendly likelyhood.

[nacs400ex]

Originally posted by nuclearkielbasa
You guys that use the words "Arctic Cat" and "reliability" in the same sentence are scaring me.

My peice of **** 1976 arctic cat jag 340 is still running. I have done ZERO maintenence since I have owned it 5 years. I just ride it and beat the piss out of it. I have yet to have a problem, starts second pull. So thats reliability for you.

I wish I could afford a Firecat, but the 250r is top priority.

[bluebaron]

yea old sleds seam to last, i have a 1972 (i think) john deere, i have beat on that my whole life and it still runs good, excep this year the rope broke to start it

[nuclearkielbasa]

Originally posted by blondie69
There's a difference between a Ski-doo and like an Artic Cat? I always thought ski-doo's were sleds...guess I was wrong, cuz everyone round here says ski-doo when they mean snowmobile/sled. :huh


They say that because Canadians enjoy riding snowmobiles, not working on them. Last time I mentioned the words "Arctic Cat" in front of a Canadian, they said...... "is Arctic Cat still making snowmobiles?"

[nuclearkielbasa]

Originally posted by nacs400ex
My peice of **** 1976 arctic cat jag 340 is still running. I have done ZERO maintenence since I have owned it 5 years. I just ride it and beat the piss out of it. I have yet to have a problem, starts second pull. So thats reliability for you.

I wish I could afford a Firecat, but the 250r is top priority.

Well...... back in 1976, reliability was something different than it is today. A 76 Jag should be a great sled, as is an old Yamaha Enticer. But do you want to spend all day trail riding on either one?

Today, when I say reliability, I mean that I better be able to DOO 450 miles in a day and only have to refill my oil reservoir to DOO it again on the next day. (keep in mind that 250-300 of these miles will be in two-foot deep whoops) My 2002 MXZ has never, EVER failed me whether I'm trail riding or jumping the fokker off 30 foot cliffs. My brother-in-law, on the other hand, can't even do a little boondocking on his ZR600efi (cross country edition with clicker shocks and the whole 9 yards) without breaking suspension coupler blocks, bending suspension arms, or trying to get his front arm adjuster to work properly. (it just LOVES to lock up and keep the front arm shock from extending all the way.... rides REAL nice like that!) Oh..... then how about his wife's 2002 ZR500 that at less than 1000 miles had the powervalves slide into the cylinders and chew the top of the pistons off? Must be because she's such an aggressive rider?

If you want to learn the true meaning of the words "warranty" and "recall", go ahead and buy that F7.

I suppose if I had a lot of money and patience, I would chose a Cat for snowcross. I just DO NOT have the tolerance for pissing around with little problems that Cat owners have to accept as part of being a snowmobiler.

[Adam202]

Ski doo is BY FAR the best. polaris and artic crap just suck balls, and Yamaha is fair. Artic cat reliable? you have to be joking............. Ski doo owns all snowmobiles, The Rotax motors are just awesome. Bombardier owns :D .

[Adam202]

The MXZ Rev snowmobile is by far the best snocross snowmobile ever. It owns that Polaris Pro x Peice of garbage, Artic cats Race sled sucks, and yamahas race sled also sucks. Ski doo is on top for most snowmobiles sold, and i can definatly see why. Look at what Bombardier also makes and i think youll see why they OWN so much http://www.bombardier.com/

[2001400ex]

I have to agree, I drive a Polaris but in my opinion nothing beats a ski-doo, there's just something about them. I can't explain it. I'm currently looking for a MXZ 700 or 800 and hopefully selling my RXL.

[Toadz400]

Ski-Doo and AC! i have all old 70's AC's and they ran fine until like last year when they started having problems...after 30 years of beating the living crap out of them, and i really mean beating the crap out of them, i'm not talking about putzing around either.

the ski-doos and new artic cats that i have ridden totally rocked my world...i went water skipping on a ski-doo and artic cat, and the awesome arm ripping power of a ski-doo is what i like:cool: the one i rode did 0-130 in like 2 seconds...*drool*
i also rode a ZR440 AC that was piped out, that thing had major balls too and the reliability was great on it too. i might be trading my 400ex for it and a 310R pretty soon actually.

[forum]

Originally posted by nuclearkielbasa
You guys that use the words "Arctic Cat" and "reliability" in the same sentence are scaring me.

YEA no kidding. those two words shouldn't even be near each other. I've seen to many cats broke down on the trails. Ski-Doo all the way. snowmobile of the year two years running. and now they've totaly dominated marketshare and race track. Them firecats are fast tho. The rev chassis owns. Nothing beats it. especialy for guys that ride quads or dirtbikes. next best thing is F7 firecats.

[Adam202]

Rotax 800 SDI all the way. F that F7 Firecrap :D

[Woodsrider]

If polaris does to the sleds what they did to the Sportsman700 for '04 (EFI) I think they will be hard to catch. Polaris has come a long way in the last ten to fifteen years in reliabilty.
I aint no sled head but if their sleds of today are as reliable as my polaris quad was, thats what I'd be ridin';)

[brif]

I was at the dealer getting info on a 450r and I saw a F6 firecat. It was silver like a fighter jet with jet emblems and even the fake bullit holes. It was the most cool sled I ever saw and I even thought about buying it. Then I thought that it's alot of money to spend only to maybe ride once or twice a year. Although if I were to really lay down some money it would prob be a ski-doo with a rev chassis.

[86350x]

Well I like all of them. The graphics packedges on the cats last year were awsome, the american, canadian, and saber tooth graphics all looked cool. I just don't care for the chassis design though.

Skidoo owns as far as snow cross goes. I like were yamaha is going with the rx1, I don't care about people flaming it. I think polaris is were it's at as far as trail riding and drag racing goes. We did some drag racing on the new models,The pro-x 800 absolutely SMOKED the rev 800. I think for trail riding the lower center of gravity is nicer. I still ride an old xlt, and am waiting for the turbo charged thumpers that are on the way.

Give it a year or two and they'll be here.

[BlkSnShn]

I used to own a 02 ZR 800 and I loved it. Just never got a chance to ride since there was never any snow. so I got rid of it for my raptor. That is my sled now.

[Rip_Tear]

Originally posted by soggyrider
If polaris does to the sleds what they did to the Sportsman700 for '04 (EFI) I think they will be hard to catch. Polaris has come a long way in the last ten to fifteen years in reliabilty.
I aint no sled head but if their sleds of today are as reliable as my polaris quad was, thats what I'd be ridin';)

Don't forget Polaris is still making 2stroke sleds, and your quad is a 4stroke. Polaris has weight issues, and they won't take a beating either. My friend and his brother race in the Pro class in Canada, and my friends brother switched from Polaris to ride Skidoo, that tells you something right there. Besides almost everyone I know would rather Skidoo over Polaris. Arctic cat has reliability problems when it comes to their new sleds, they just don't have the spot on specs they need to.

[skidoosafari447]

ski doos are the way to go but im ridin a arctic cat this year
Polaris SUCK!

Originally posted by Adam202
The MXZ Rev snowmobile is by far the best snocross snowmobile ever. It owns that Polaris Pro x Peice of garbage, Artic cats Race sled sucks, and yamahas race sled also sucks. Ski doo is on top for most snowmobiles sold, and i can definatly see why. Look at what Bombardier also makes and i think youll see why they OWN so much http://www.bombardier.com/

You are an idiot. Have you ever gone to a snowcross race? My sisters boyfriend races snocross and oval. the arctic cat snopro dominates. i will admit the rev is nice and is right up there.. And you are also are wrong about top snowmobiles sold you ***k.
All you guys say stuff about arctic cat but shall i mention some unreliable polaris and yamahas? rxl650, 95 96 xcr 600, 99 xc700.. hmmmmmmm.. I wasnt even gunna say anything becuz i figured it would be a bunch of dumbazz kids sayin the same stuff other people said that isnt even true but you crossed the line sayin stuff about the CAT. All i see is the green in front buddy.

Originally posted by Adam202
Rotax 800 SDI all the way. F that F7 Firecrap :D


You wanna check HORSEPOWER numbers you ignorant basta*d. F7 is 140 hp. how much is the rotax 800. altho i will admit it is a nice sled and is fast you are being an idiot. Lets go check out the ZR900 that had no complaints and WALKED ALL OVER every other top CC sport sled out there. F7 and F6 walk all over the other snowmobiles in their classes. Whereever your gettin this info from go and slap it or him in the face:rolleyes:



Sorry i was fine with everyone statin opinions and facts and stuff that has happened but i cant take people sayin stuff that isnt one bit true.:macho

[blondie69]

Originally posted by nuclearkielbasa
They say that because Canadians enjoy riding snowmobiles, not working on them. Last time I mentioned the words "Arctic Cat" in front of a Canadian, they said...... "is Arctic Cat still making snowmobiles?"


:huh I totally didn't get that...must be cuz I'm Canadian?:confused: Haha. But I never knew Ski-doo was a brand...learn something new everyday tho? Well I have a Kawi...but I still say "I'm going ski-dooing"...

[2001400ex]

Originally posted by bobby88
You are an idiot. Have you ever gone to a snowcross race? My sisters boyfriend races snocross and oval. the arctic cat snopro dominates. i will admit the rev is nice and is right up there.. And you are also are wrong about top snowmobiles sold you ***k.
All you guys say stuff about arctic cat but shall i mention some unreliable polaris and yamahas? rxl650, 95 96 xcr 600, 99 xc700.. hmmmmmmm.. I wasnt even gunna say anything becuz i figured it would be a bunch of dumbazz kids sayin the same stuff other people said that isnt even true but you crossed the line sayin stuff about the CAT. All i see is the green in front buddy.


I'm interested to know what's unreliable about the RXL? I'm curious because I have one (1995) The only problem I've had is that I've had to replace the EFI relay. What are some common things that are unreliable?:confused:

[Adam202]

im not going to argue with anyone, you got my opinion thats all im going to give, im not looking to argue, you go ride you artic crap, it only makes me look better :D

[Adam202]

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26132/p/588854_338128695674232722_vl.jpg
the TCat's got 200cc's on the Mach z and it still cant win, hmmmmmmmmmm

Originally posted by Adam202
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26132/p/588854_338128695674232722_vl.jpg
the TCat's got 200cc's on the Mach z and it still cant win, hmmmmmmmmmm


HAHA you just totally fu*ked up dude. I got a thundercat dude and guess what? i blew a mach z away without hesitation dumbsh*t. Bet you werent expecting that were you? 99 thundercat, 172 studs, clutched. The mach z didnt even have a chance and the polaris,, haha, that was a joke also. Thundercat comes stock with 172 horsepower, xcr with 150, mach z with nothing impressive. Dont try to give me this bullsh*t. And whats funny is i have a thundercat and i have been there and done that and beat that!:macho :macho :rolleyes:

Originally posted by 2001400ex
I'm interested to know what's unreliable about the RXL? I'm curious because I have one (1995) The only problem I've had is that I've had to replace the EFI relay. What are some common things that are unreliable?:confused:

The problems with the RXL's were in its earlier years when they first came out with the efi. Gas hogs, Fouled plugs constantly. Otherwise they were fast sleds. I Dont know much about the 95s but i know they fixed the problem with the early rxls the next year i think it was. I'm sure yours is fine.

ADAM====I tell you what, since you must feal like a dumbasz now i will stop totally proving your bit*h *** comments wrong as long as you stop replying stuff like you have been. So at least this thread does not get closed. When you said something about the 1000 you were fu*ked right there.. becuz i have one.. and obviously from all the info you should know about now that i know alot about snowmobiles so just stop before you turn brown becuz of all your bull****.

[Adam202]

Why would i feel stupid when im talking to a 12 year old kid on the internet? i feel bad for you if anything. Grow up please.

[ReconRider25]

you guys that bash arctic cat make me sick. they have always been ahead since the late 60's. they were the first to invent many advances in snowmobiling. a few were the cleated track, putting the engine in front of the track instead of ontop, i believe the fiberglass hood, etc, etc, etc.

[2001400ex]

Originally posted by bobby88
The problems with the RXL's were in its earlier years when they first came out with the efi. Gas hogs, Fouled plugs constantly. Otherwise they were fast sleds. I Dont know much about the 95s but i know they fixed the problem with the early rxls the next year i think it was. I'm sure yours is fine.

You are right, I forgot to mention that if I crack the throttle on my RXL I will foul a plug, I know it has to do with the EFI which really sucks, because I like to have a lot of acceleration and power off the line, with my sled I have to wait till I'm doing about 30-40 then crack the throttle, which really sucks....because I think if I had no EFI I could beat my dad to about 105...we've gone from a 10mph roll, and he gets me to like 30- then I stay with him ski for ski until about 95 and he starts to pull on my slightly, about 100mph he pulls on me preety hard.:p What I really would like to have is a MXZ 700 or 800, hopefully I'll have one before this season is over...IF we even get snow:rolleyes:

(He has a 98 VMAX 700 with a canister, thing sounds MEAN!)

[nuclearkielbasa]

Originally posted by soggyrider
If polaris does to the sleds what they did to the Sportsman700 for '04 (EFI) I think they will be hard to catch. Polaris has come a long way in the last ten to fifteen years in reliabilty.
I aint no sled head but if their sleds of today are as reliable as my polaris quad was, thats what I'd be ridin';)


I won't go so far as to say that Polaris are unreliable, but they DO take more maintenance to keep them in tip-top shape. I had a 1996 XCR600 (which everyone knows had some gremlins) and even that sled was good. You just had to learn to live with eating plugs and carrying extra oil on long (and even NOT so long) trips.

From my experience, the Polaris quads are the same way. They're good units, they just take more maintenance.

[nuclearkielbasa]

Originally posted by bobby88
You wanna check HORSEPOWER numbers you ignorant basta*d. F7 is 140 hp. how much is the rotax 800. altho i will admit it is a nice sled and is fast you are being an idiot. Lets go check out the ZR900 that had no complaints and WALKED ALL OVER every other top CC sport sled out there. F7 and F6 walk all over the other snowmobiles in their classes. Whereever your gettin this info from go and slap it or him in the face:rolleyes:



Sorry i was fine with everyone statin opinions and facts and stuff that has happened but i cant take people sayin stuff that isnt one bit true.:macho


Of course the ZR900 beat all the other top CC sport sleds...... they're all 800's! I'm sure Big Daddy Don Garlitz has a POS Dodge somewhere that will outrun my wife's Escort too, but he'll have to rebuild the damn thing after every run!

I'm not suprised to hear the words F6, F7, and WALK all in the same sentence. WALK home, WALK into your dealer, WALK up to the service counter, WALK away disgusted when he tells you that they're backed up three weeks on warranty work and you won't have your sled back until spring....................
I think Cat makes some neat sleds. If they could ever overcome these ridiculas reliability issues, I might even consider buying one.

Originally posted by Adam202
Why would i feel stupid when im talking to a 12 year old kid on the internet? i feel bad for you if anything. Grow up please.

Hey, since your probably not about 10 years old, and sit there and critisize arctic cat constantly and say stuff that isnt true and since daddy didnt buy all the toys in your signature, i guess i shoudl shut up:rolleyes:

Originally posted by nuclearkielbasa
Of course the ZR900 beat all the other top CC sport sleds...... they're all 800's! I'm sure Big Daddy Don Garlitz has a POS Dodge somewhere that will outrun my wife's Escort too, but he'll have to rebuild the damn thing after every run!

I'm not suprised to hear the words F6, F7, and WALK all in the same sentence. WALK home, WALK into your dealer, WALK up to the service counter, WALK away disgusted when he tells you that they're backed up three weeks on warranty work and you won't have your sled back until spring....................
I think Cat makes some neat sleds. If they could ever overcome these ridiculas reliability issues, I might even consider buying one.


Actually 100 ccs isnt that much of a difference in a 2 stroke and it is a twin and others are triples:eek2: :rolleyes: so the V8 dodge verse the 4cylinder escort is not even a mentionable comparison buddy.

[TRX250X]

Originally posted by bobby88
And you are also are wrong about top snowmobiles sold you ***k.


Looks like eveyone better get their facts straight on who's been selling the most sleds before they start cussing at people.

[86350x]

That's some high quality h20 bobby.

Settle down, now.

My bro has a 95 xcr 600 all built up, and has never had it let go yet. We just rebuilt it after 4000 miles, I did the same thing with my xlt. The thing with them tripples is that you need to add another oiler. Especially if you run tripple pipes.

You also need to make sure your not reving up past 9000 without a welded crank. I have mine set so it doesn't rev past 8700. I have a few things done here and there. I think I have my engagement at 45 to 4800 right now.

And I believe the the prox 800 beat the zr900 in acceration test times last year also. The new liberty twins are kick arse. I am sad to see the tripples go though. In full mod form, they still have more potential then the twins. But stock for stock the new twins are alot faster. Like I said, I'll take a polaris for trail riding, and a skidoo for snow cross.

[LT250RMan]

POLARIS-----I ride a 2001 PRO X 440 liquid cooled snocross sled

[exrider008]

i would get a ski-doo there rev is an awsome sled! i own 3 polaris and i like them but if i had the choice i would get a ski-doo

[Quad18star]

Nothing like bringing back a 3 year old topic . LOL

Anyways .... Ski-Doo for me !!!!:devil:

[trick250r]

you left out John Deer :p i dont know how old it is, but we have a green machine we use as a beater.

[400exrida06]

I love the new Yamaha Apex, they are one of the sweetest sleds out there.

[DOHC]

polaris, all i will buy my friend has a ski doo (2002 mxz 800) pretty good chain case/recoil and elctical probs. My uncle has 3 cats 1998 zr 580 2 new motors in 2 years and a 1993 thunder cat 1 motor rebuild in 2 years, and he also has a 2004 firecat f6 chain case blew apart on his 2nd ride. so yea i dont know anyone with yammies but my polaris have never had a problem well except for 1 but thats cause it sank to the bottom of the lake lol

[Quad18star]

I just typed a bunch of paragraphs over the last 20 minutes ... hit submit and it said the site wasn't working ..... I hti the back buttons to try and save what I wrote and it said the page was expired .... god damnit !!!!:mad:

[antman]

articat

That new Yamaha Phazer is looking pretty good..