anyone here keep up with a predator, raptor, etc

[cals400ex]

just wondering if anyone here can keep up with some of the bigger bikes with their decked out ex's? i know we can keep up with them down low with some mods, but how is it in the 4th and 5th gears?

[hook]

15-35 thats all i have to say:devil:

I have no problems keepin up with rapturds, never really raced with a predator.

[dirtmomma]

I drag raced a Predator w/ nitrous this summer on my hubby's 400 & had him till about 3ft from the finish line:eek: :D

[YLW400]

Depends on what your talking about I Guess. On a MX track, I typically don't have a problem beating Raptors or the Predators. In a drag race both of them will beat an EX though. I rode a Predator a few weeks ago and hit the rev limiter in every single gear with ease......I hope they have a fix for that. Just when it feels like the power is going to hit, it starts banging..

[cals400ex]

yeah, i was talking about a drag race. i was just wondering how the built ex's keep up with these bigger bikes in the higher gears.

[dirtmomma]

ALOT of it depends on the rider!!!! Our 400 only has a rev box & W/B slip on:p

[Chef]

I get no problems from any of those until they have some pretty good motor work done.

[airheadedduner]

Off the line I took the holeshot against a sparks piped raptor, a predetor with LRD exhaust, and a couple of full esr pv'd R's. It wasn't even close. You can get an EX to go much better then people can imagine.

[KASCHAK]

im rebuilding mine this winter. puttin a 416 with a hot cam 1 and possibly a big gun or a lrd pipe. i do mostly hill climbs. if i were to gear it with 15 35 you think id be faster then a piped raptor or a piped predator?

[400Ex_Rida]

My buddy raced a stock v-force yesterday on his 416 and he won. This is on pavement mind you. From a punch, the 416 was 1-2 bikes ahead at the end of the drag. From a dead stop the 416 was 2 1/2 bikes ahead. This was on a 400ft strip. As for piped and jetted raptors it is about even. The better driver usually wins. He hasnt had the chance to race a pred yet.

[UglyMotha™]

i have yet to have a problem digesting any of those bikes in the woods or on a track:o

[nacs400ex]

I can keep up with raptors and preds all day long on a trail and a track. It all depends on the rider. My motor on my EX is stock except for add-ons and I have Zero trouble beating them. Why? Because my handled better, until I sold the Elkas :o Now I just have to get rid of this EX.

[H_W]

My cousin has a raptor with a Sparks X-6 full exhaust, K & N air filter, and a Sparks degree key. When we race it is very close (I weigh more than him). We are just about even off the line, he slowly pulls away (only 1/2 a bike length) through 3rd gear, and then I start pulling on him and pass him in 5th. I know, I have heard it before, "there is no way a 400ex can out run a piped raptor on top end with the stock gears", but hey somebody forgot to tell my 400ex that. I have also raced a predator that was stock with the baffle removed. I beat him the first time, he beat me the second time, by only 1/2 a bike length. We raced a bunch of times and who ever got the better start won each time.

[JD400exrider]

I have no problems on the track, trail or in the woods against my buddies piped raptor, however I am about 1-2 bike lengths behind climbing to the top of sand mountain. We dragged to the top at least a dozen times.

[HOT-ROD]

Originally posted by Rico
I have no problems keepin up with rapturds, never really raced with a predator.
thats what i'm talking about !!!

hey rico , how do you like the
new rev box ?

[Dune Surfer]

My last quad was a 426 ex with all the goodies and I have a Predator now. I can honestly say in the sand in a drag the pred wins every time. On the track or trails it might be another story.
I have raced a couple of built 440 ex's that were pretty darn close though. I am not bragging up the pred. But I have owned both and the pred is quit a bit faster. Ask mopar400 or glamis400ex, we have both ridden together.

[markeg192]

If you can drag you can beat them. Just get off the line and shift fast.

[K_Fulk]

I never had any problems with them with my 440. I guess ill see how the stroker does when i get it out.

[Smokin 440]

I have yet to find someone that could beat me besides another 440:p and im lookin at buyin that engine b/c its built more(seen it do over 100mph) and then i can do a stroker kit w/ out losing my 400 for a while. either way i've raced a couple ripturds, no contest smoked em i can give a stock one a head start and catch up and sit next to em when im in 4th and they are topped out, haha that really pisses them off........

[skemp]

I haven't really ever had a problem, but my motor is not stock and neither is my gearing. I have some trophies to back it up. :D
I am talking about drag racing by the way.

[F-16Guy]

My brother rides a piped and jetted (on the dyno) Raptor with a Pro-Flo intake. We were at Dumont a little while back and I could pull him all the way up Comp Hill, but on a long straight he can pull me. I'm sure my bike is a little rich, but I'd rather keep it that way than scatter a motor for bragging rights.:D

[QuadJunkies]

Originally posted by YLW400
Depends on what your talking about I Guess. On a MX track, I typically don't have a problem beating Raptors or the Predators. In a drag race both of them will beat an EX though. I rode a Predator a few weeks ago and hit the rev limiter in every single gear with ease......I hope they have a fix for that. Just when it feels like the power is going to hit, it starts banging.. yup. the vortex will cure that,you still should have felt that intense mid range though:huh thats my only big complaint to the Predator is that it taps out too fast:grr: That will change after Christmas......:D

[QuadJunkies]

Originally posted by dirtmomma
I drag raced a Predator w/ nitrous this summer on my hubby's 400 & had him till about 3ft from the finish line:eek: :D ROLF!!!!:p Troy whoops my *** too on his EVERY time but I beat him off the line though:D I hope to whoop him back next year when I get my engine mods and give him a run for his money.....:cool:

[cals400ex]

Originally posted by F-16Guy
My brother rides a piped and jetted (on the dyno) Raptor with a Pro-Flo intake. We were at Dumont a little while back and I could pull him all the way up Comp Hill, but on a long straight he can pull me. I'm sure my bike is a little rich, but I'd rather keep it that way than scatter a motor for bragging rights.:D

what main are you running?

[pleasure4qt]

I have a stock Troy Lee Designs Predator and I did own a modded 416ex with the very best of everything and have every reciet still.

300 feet and under with stock gearing on Predator. 416ex wins with 14-38 gearing.
But stock Predator wins with 13-40 gearing.

Winding each bike out Predator always was ahead and once into 4th with the rev's over 6500rpm than into 5th the EX slipped behind.

I geared the EX 16-36 and the Pred 15-36 but the Predator still had the top end win.

I'm a Honda man and always will be, thank god the 450R is finally here so I can bore it out to a 500 and kick butt.

[nofear911]

I dirt drag my Ex just a 425 piston, stage 1 cam, and T-4 slip on.
The only fourstrokes to ever beat me were a tricked out dale and a tricked out 450F. Never had any trouble putting 10 to 15 feet on any stock predators, raptors, or 450Fs.By the way I use stock jets, gears, and tire size.

[cals400ex]

the stock mainjet might be a little small for those mods nofear.

[QuadJunkies]

Originally posted by nofear911
I dirt drag my Ex just a 425 piston, stage 1 cam, and T-4 slip on.
The only fourstrokes to ever beat me were a tricked out dale and a tricked out 450F. Never had any trouble putting 10 to 15 feet on any stock predators, raptors, or 450Fs.By the way I use stock jets, gears, and tire size. STOCK JETTING??:huh

[stupid driver]

Originally posted by QuadJunkies
STOCK JETTING??:huh

:eek: :huh :eek:

[Moded86R]

I have had alot of people call bs on this one.


My neighbor has stock motored raptor.It's an 01.


We have a hill around here.I am betting it's 250 yards long up a hill pretty wide.(it runs next to an exit ramp and the state maintains it)


Anyway that is where we drag race all the time.I have a stock 02 400ex and my neighbor beats me by about a bike everytime.My freind has an o2 ex with just a K&N filter and rejeted without and airbox lid.I can beat my neighbor by about 2 bikes everytime with my buddies bike.I know this is the rider.Because when my buddy is riding his bike he can't beat him.He beats me by about a 1/2 a bike everytime.Just wait till I get my white bro's pipe and my bike rejeted.



It's not about the bike.It's the rider.

[F-16Guy]

Originally posted by cals400ex
what main are you running?
165 DJ main. I should probably drop down to a 162, but my jet kit didn't give me that option, so I'm staying where I'm at. I'll probably go back to keihin jets in the future; Dyno Jets are a pain in the arse.

[Dune Surfer]

Getting pretty deep around here. Think I'll put some boots on.
My stock 400ex with three flat tires outruns piped raptors and predators. lmao

[markeg192]

Originally posted by Dune Surfer
Getting pretty deep around here. Think I'll put some boots on.
My stock 400ex with three flat tires outruns piped raptors and predators. lmao


Don't be hatin' !

[Sandragggen]

I have no trouble with the quads mentioned but a well built 686 Raptor is another story.

JMiller

[HOT-ROD]

Originally posted by Sandragggen
I have no trouble with the quads mentioned but a well built 686 Raptor is another story.

JMiller dream on :huh

[Sandragggen]

I'm pretty sure I was wide awake.;) Are you from Perryville, MO HOT-ROD?

[mopar 400]

Originally posted by Dune Surfer
My last quad was a 426 ex with all the goodies and I have a Predator now. I can honestly say in the sand in a drag the pred wins every time. On the track or trails it might be another story.
I have raced a couple of built 440 ex's that were pretty darn close though. I am not bragging up the pred. But I have owned both and the pred is quit a bit faster. Ask mopar400 or glamis400ex, we have both ridden together. Dune Surfer did get my 440 but just by a ***** hair.Tony and I are about same weight. I think the predator about 43 hp an my 440 is about 41 hp .:grr:

[mopar 400]

Originally posted by Dune Surfer
Getting pretty deep around here. Think I'll put some boots on.
My stock 400ex with three flat tires outruns piped raptors and predators. lmao ;)

[RAPTORAZ]

From my drag experiences, it takes a pretty radical EX to run with just a properly tuned piped Raptor. My 416, with the mods in signature, was no match for my Raptor back when it(my Raptor) was piped only. My buddies 440 was pretty even with my Raptor though. But it had a 440 with a Web 479, a 39mm FCR, and porting. Now he has an 41mm Alky Power-jetted 465. It sure runs good now. He has no problem beating up on my other buddies piped YFZ450.

[pnut420]

Originally posted by mopar 400
Dune Surfer did get my 440 but just by a ***** hair.Tony and I are about same weight. I think the predator about 43 hp an my 440 is about 41 hp .:grr:

Im hoping my 125 pounds is going to help me out. I want to go to Pismo when you and dune surfer are there and see what my 426 can do. :)

[Honda Jay]

yeah all day long, when that clinky loose polaris tranny hits false neutrals between ever shift, then it is no problem

Jayson

[HOT-ROD]

Originally posted by Sandragggen
I'm pretty sure I was wide awake.;) Are you from Perryville, MO HOT-ROD?

yea its me , the guy will the 400 at saint joe . how ya been ?

[03400EX_Nacs]

would a 426ex with a stroker motor keep up with a predator or raptor.....

[K_Fulk]

Depends on the headwork cam and carb.

[03400EX_Nacs]

426- stage 2 cam, predator- dial-a-jet carb

[Sandragggen]

yea its me , the guy will the 400 at saint joe . how ya been ?

I seen you guys leave St. Joe Saturday as I was coming in. Few of the drag buddies said you guys were racing with them earlier. I brought the EX with me this weekend for the Bom needed a rest. I'll be at St. Joe in a couple of weeks....weather permiting.

JMiller

[Chef]

Originally posted by Sandragggen
I seen you guys leave St. Joe Saturday as I was coming in. Few of the drag buddies said you guys were racing with them earlier. I brought the EX with me this weekend for the Bom needed a rest. I'll be at St. Joe in a couple of weeks....weather permiting.

JMiller

Still got the Polaris?

[Sandragggen]

Still got the Polaris?

I sold it to a buddy about 7 months ago. I still ride it every now and then.

[Moded86R]

Hey if someone will send me a Private message next time you go to st joe I could meet you down there.I am planning on going down there the first weekend of december.

It will be a 96 black tahoe pulling a old rusty 16ft trailer.With a 86 250r that's red and white.An and 2 2002 400ex's one yellow and one red with no stickers.



Hope to see ya down there.I live in festus it's not that far of a drive for me.

[HOT-ROD]

Originally posted by Sandragggen
I seen you guys leave St. Joe Saturday as I was coming in. Few of the drag buddies said you guys were racing with them earlier. I brought the EX with me this weekend for the Bom needed a rest. I'll be at St. Joe in a couple of weeks....weather permiting.

JMiller yea let me know .:)

[F-16Guy]

Originally posted by RAPTORAZ
From my drag experiences, it takes a pretty radical EX to run with just a properly tuned piped Raptor. My 416, with the mods in signature, was no match for my Raptor back when it(my Raptor) was piped only. My buddies 440 was pretty even with my Raptor though. But it had a 440 with a Web 479, a 39mm FCR, and porting. Now he has an 41mm Alky Power-jetted 465. It sure runs good now. He has no problem beating up on my other buddies piped YFZ450.
My 416 does very well against my brother's Raptor. His is piped, has a Pro-Flo kit, and was jetted on a dyno. Like I said, the only time he can really pull me is at the top of 5th. I dropped my main jet down a little (kept it rich for break-in), and it really feels like it woke up. We'll see how it does this weekend, but I still think he'll pull 5th better; there's no replacement for displacement. As long as I win going up Comp, that's all I'm worried about.;)

[RAPTORAZ]

Originally posted by F-16Guy
My 416 does very well against my brother's Raptor. His is piped, has a Pro-Flo kit, and was jetted on a dyno. Like I said, the only time he can really pull me is at the top of 5th. I dropped my main jet down a little (kept it rich for break-in), and it really feels like it woke up. We'll see how it does this weekend, but I still think he'll pull 5th better; there's no replacement for displacement. As long as I win going up Comp, that's all I'm worried about.;)


Has your cylinder head been ported? On what type of surface are you racing on? My 416 ran side-by-side with my Raptor(when it was piped only) in the dirt. But put them both on paddles, in the sand, and it was no contest. Dead heat till mid 3rd. then the Raptor would start pulling away rather quickly. Comp hill is too short to decide any racing. Olds is where he's gonna get ya. It would be interesting to see how my 416 compares to yours. I'll be there this weekend as well. Maybe will meet up.

[F-16Guy]

You'll be at Dumont? Let me know what to look for, and I'll try to find you. On the dirt, it's neck and neck until 5th, then he gets me. In the dunes, it's pretty close everywhere, but I can usually pull him up the hills. You're probably right about a longer hill. The hotter my bike gets, the better he does against me. All in all, they're pretty evenly matched, which is pretty impressive considering it's an air cooled 416 against a liquid cooled 660! No porting, just set up well. Scott may have done a little cleanup, but nothing more. Everyone I know used to ride 400s, then they went out and bought Raptors and Z400s, but none of them are any faster than me. All that money for nothing.:D

[RAPTORAZ]

Originally posted by F-16Guy
You'll be at Dumont?


Oops. Sorry. I thought you meant Comp hill at Glamis. That's where I'll be this weekend.

[F-16Guy]

Originally posted by RAPTORAZ
Oops. Sorry. I thought you meant Comp hill at Glamis. That's where I'll be this weekend.
Nope, but I'll be there for the Feb. trip. Are you going then?

[RAPTORAZ]

Originally posted by F-16Guy
Nope, but I'll be there for the Feb. trip. Are you going then?


Maybe. I don't have any firm plans for February yet. I havn't made any plans farther than Four Stroke Wars on MLK weekend. What weekend are you going?

BTW- Sorry for hijacking your thread cals400ex

[BKVIEW4U]

i have raced about 30-40 ex's and only been beat by one. it was a 440 setup for pavement drag. and we raced on pavement. he beat me by a long way .

[cals400ex]

no problem, hijack all you want.

by the way, what main are you running now F-16??

[F-16Guy]

Originally posted by cals400ex
no problem, hijack all you want.

by the way, what main are you running now F-16??
Well, since my DynoJet kit didn't have anything in between a 160 and a 165, I tried the 160. It's a lot crisper now, but I think I might try a Keihin 162 and see how that works. I don't like running modified engines on the lean side, makes me nervous.
RAPTORAZ--Where is "Four Stroke Wars"?

[RAPTORAZ]

Originally posted by F-16Guy
Where is "Four Stroke Wars"?


Four Stroke Wars is held at Glamis, on Olds hill, on Martin Luther King weekend. This will be its 3rd year. Look here for more info:
www.atvfanatics.com

[macanic]

Hey,
mod86R come on down and bring the R...
dont forget the pro-wedges...

leave the 400 home unless its got some serious power..

talk to sanddraggen we have fun....
sat. or sun. weather permit...

[HOT-ROD]

Originally posted by macanic
Hey,
mod86R come on down and bring the R...
dont forget the pro-wedges...

leave the 400 home unless its got some serious power..

talk to sanddraggen we have fun....
sat. or sun. weather permit...


it was pretty wet last weekend , hun sanddraggen

[Moded86R]

No my 400's stock.No power.


The old R on the other hand.I don't have any pro wedges.I was planning on running my stock 400ex tires.They hook up pretty good in the sand.Plus there 20 inch compared to the 18 inch razr's I normally run.


My 250r's not that fast.It's ported,FMf pipe and silencer,wiseco piston and boyesen reeds.It is pretty quick.But it's nothing to crazy.


I have a question to ask.


About 2 years ago I was down at st joe.I was racing everyone.And this really really fast 400ex smoked the crap out of me.I don't know what was done to it.But the guy and his son both had fast one's.He also came into my work a few times.(I work at the KFC in crystal city)His bike is a 2000 I believe.It had a pro circuit pipe.The fenders where cut and it had a graphics kit that said honda on the side of it.




Was this anyone of you guys?The guy has a t-bird with wheels on it.i beleive they are cobra mustang wheels.And he also has a white ford truck.



I will be down there.All's I need is a chain and shifter.It will be my first ride on my R in two years.

[macanic]

i dont think anybody i know...
there are several fast 400ex's at st joe
sanddraggen's 465 is about the fastest ive seen
i think my buddy and i have the fastest 250r's
not too many of the R guys race.
most of them are set up for the woods.

ive got mine set up for both woods and drag.

you'll have to watch out for the ds650's
sandraggen's and another guy's

both very fast...

come on down you'll find us in the back section of the park.

[Sandragggen]

I always have a good time at St. Joe. It's my stress reliever. Win or lose...it's all good. My 465 is by far not the fastest quad at St. Joe but it will hold it's own...even with my big ***** on it. The best mod I could do is lose 60 lbs.

macanic's 250R is fast and for a bike to beat it, they better have some serious mods...and that's his slow bike. The Tacate is wickedly fast.

Moded86R..I know who your talking about. His name is Brian and his dad's name is Neil. Brian has a sister that rides pretty good to. Your right he is fast. A couple of years ago he had a 440 but he had problems with it and he has a 406 now..I believe...and it's fast. He don't weigh much and is a good rider. His dad has a 400 Kawi that is stock that puts the hurt on alot of quads.

Keep your eye on "Where to Ride" forum and I will post next time I'm planning to go...probably Dec. 6th.

JMiller

[Moded86R]

I will be down there.I am aleady signed off for work.My bike is red and white.It has an Ac front bumper,wider A-arms and a durable axle.It's # 24.I am pretty tall at 6'4.


Where at in the back of the park?By where you used to back to where the big hill used to be?Or the other way towards the ponds?


I will be down there bright an early on saturday.December 6th.Hope to see you guys there.

[macanic]

we mainly hang out by the gard rail in the back.
it gives you about eighth mile to drag

[macanic]

just look for the big ds650
a blue raptor
yellow and purple polaris 400 sport
a grey and blue banshee

my R is blue race cut fenders
with a green flame seat cover

and look for a red and white R
with a nice pretty chrome 310 cyl.
if you never have seen a perfect 250R
he's got one

[Moded86R]

Wow an 1/8th mile.That's a good way.I never realized that there was a spot back there that long.


That is helping my chances alittle bit.My bike spins so bad in the sand.I am planning on paddles soon.I just don't have the cash to get them fast enough though.



Will be on the lookout for all 250r's and ds650's.


My bike is ported and piped.How bad am I going to get smoked?



haha

[macanic]

just like i said if you can buy some pro-wedges or maxxis 4-snow
tires
you would be better off

percision power sports located in imperial
PH# 636-461-0880

he keeps them in stock
about $40 each

10 times better than paddle tires

[Moded86R]

Well then I would need wheels.They only 8inch wheel's I have my razr's are mounted on.Pro wedges only come in 8 inch sizes right.


Yeah I know how pro wedges are.My buddies banshee has them.he sand drags at big river.I don't know if you do or not.I plan on racing next season.

[Sandragggen]

Pro Wedge II's come in 8" only and have thicker ribs than the others, Pro Wedge I's come in 10" as well as the 4-Snow's. I just bought a set of 4-Snows for the Baja and I think I paid around $45 each. You will have to gear down for the taller tire unless you have massive hp.

JMiller

[Moded86R]

Yeah I will probably have to get a different rear sprocket.I just bought a new 39 tooth.Probably have to get somewhere in the mid 40's.


I plan on getting so pro wedges.Heck I may love sand dragging so much I will get a big bore cylinder and a longer swingarm.

Or I might get a big bore for my 400ex.Probably that before I change my R.The 400 is a still a virgin and completly stock.I plan on getting a sparks x-6 the week after we go to st joe.


Oh yeah.Now there will be a white and black blaster with us.It has an FMF pipe on it.Also a crf150 dirtbike.But I think that guy is taking his own bike.Maybe a 250ex and a 300ex to.I am trying to get a whole big group.

[macanic]

Don't worry about that 400, Keep if for the woods
Big Bore that R....
Pro-x cylinders seem to be the best.

they make pro-wedge tires in 8 & 9 inch..
same as the 4 snow

ive got the 9 inch ones

[Moded86R]

If they have them in 9 inch I will try and swing the cash.I don't know.My insurance is due.And I still need a chain and a shifter for my R.


As far as the big bore goes.I am definitly getting one.I just rebuilt my entire lower end.(new cases and crank,along with an 89 clutch update kit.I still have to get a hinson basket though.)I did this to make sure the lower end would hold up.I will probably try and ESR310 cylinder first.I have a feeling that will have enough power.If setup properly with the right pipe and carb.


My R is my mx bike.My 400 is my woods bike.My 300ex is just a sit there and be broken bike.

[Moded86R]

Well I will be at st joe.My R wont though.


Tonight was he big debut.The night I got to terrorrize the neighbor again.After 2 years and over a grand in new stuff in the motor.I get rewarded with it running like crap.And then a bolt came loose inside the clutch side.(The bolt that goes into the crank the holds the gear the countberbalancer and clutch connect to.)And it went all the the way through my clutch sidecover.That I get to buy a new one.It will take a couple weeks to save up the money for that.Then I have to figure out why it's not running right.

[Adrenalinerush]

every time i drag race my friend on his raptor i get blown away. it has a lot to do with weight and riding experience.

[TrX465]

Dang this a funny thread but anyways....the last time i even started my 465 was um hummmm halloween...but i think im a have to fire it up again...it has cob webs all over it i feel bad.....

i weigh 125...own pretty much all craptors and predators unless they are built big time...z-400s and kfx's are the same way...no problem unless they are decked out...craptors and predators are just too heavy

[RideRed400StYlE]

my buddy had a raptor with a pipe and filter, and I walked away from him in every gear on my 400. but I had a 13:1 comp 426 piston, 110 race fuel, cam, shaved flywheel, fcr39mm carb, filter, pipe, ported head, and a few other goodies. overall he didnt standa chance. what a torque monster that bike was. sure do miss it

My best friend just bought a Preditor. It is an 04 jetted 172 main WB exhaust and taller gears (countersprocket) On flat sand (shoreline) even with a headstart, he leads through all the gears and even lets off and stays ahead. He outweighs me by 25lbs and has raced me hundreds of times. My 120lb 12 year old, beat him once on flat ground and once going up comp hill. I am in the process of rebuilding my 400 to a 426, ported and polished, new cam 11:1 compression piston. I hope this will allow me to at least force my friend to stay on the throttle in order to beat me.:o

[Rebelrider4OOex]

how should i gear my 400ex its stock gearing right now .

What do i do for my acceleration???

What do i do for my top speed?

I think i want more top speed but if i get 18 inch tires and put gears inthere for more tops speed would that equal out to back to what it used to? im kinda confused

My screen name is lilhockeyplaya8 is any 1 would liek ot explain it to my or they could just post a reply here thanks

[QuadJunkies]

Originally posted by golfman400ex
. I am in the process of rebuilding my 400 to a 426, ported and polished, new cam 11:1 compression piston. I hope this will allow me to at least force my friend to stay on the throttle in order to beat me.:o I have this, and if its done right........ Your gonna love it............:cool:

[travisparker444]

You guys are retarded. I've got a predator stock and have never came close to being beat by a 400. My cousin has a bored out to 440ex with tons of mods and can't come close. I don't know who you're racing but anyone who knows what their talking about will tell you that a 400cc quad can't mess with a 500cc or bigger quad. Think about it.

[macanic]

Did it take you 5 yrs. to Respond to this thread... Its kinda old

[macanic]

And Predators are SLOW!!!

[Wheelie]

I've drag raced a 07' 450ER w/full exhaust, cam, filter w/o lid, and a 12tooth on the sand. In a 300ft drag, he had about 1 bike length on me. Both bikes top speed was nearly identical. Each machine was running 8 paddle extreme haulers.


My quad turns a lot of heads, most people think a 400ex is slow no matter what is done to it. A 400ex can be made to run very strong and do it reliably.

[meangeno69]

You ex guys are looking over one thing. All of you that have said you beat a predator or a crapter are bored out or have done some serios mods and you are racing stock predators. If you took a stock 400ex and a stock predator or a build 400ex against a build predator. Your 400ex would not just get beat but smoked. Save your money on the mods and get a predator.