View Full Version : The (X-Rated) Dirtwheels ad!!!!!!
Dan_Guetter
10-30-2003, 02:44 AM
alright here she is...........
whats your opinions on this......they said it was to offensive......i got 2 words for that:blah:
Basiclly they changed my ad without my permission......trust me, i was torked!!!:grr:
Its only a silloutte of a chick, and shes not even naked
Dirtwheels said "Would you show that to a priest?"
Im thinking, hell yea, why not? But whatever.....its sux, they won't let me use hot ladies showing skin, my august ad barely went through.....just because theres an inch of leg:rolleyes:
heres the real ad i summitted, then the ad they printed:mad:
Dan_Guetter
10-30-2003, 02:45 AM
:o
EX4me
10-30-2003, 03:23 AM
That really blows man..........I've seen alot worse in mags & on covers than that. I'm not a real big fan of dirt wheels anyway.:blah:
zfire_28
10-30-2003, 03:27 AM
That sucks. there was nothin offensive about that at all......They are dum as hell to change it.
Dan_Guetter
10-30-2003, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by zfire_28
That sucks. there was nothin offensive about that at all......They are dum as hell to change it.
yea i agree
stryker
10-30-2003, 03:51 AM
I think Dirtwheels caters a little to much to the kiddies don't ya think!!
ScreaminZ400
10-30-2003, 05:15 AM
thats so gay
coryatver
10-30-2003, 05:43 AM
They censor the word Devil in the Dirt Devil Tire ads. I think that is kind of strange.
Shift you can thank skin ind. ads for this BS. After they released their line of graphic kits the letters section was flooded with letters from parents reguarding the images. :rolleyes:
I guess the editor at dirtwheels doesn't watch regular TV much because basic channels show a lot more than what the skin ads show.
For the amount of money you paid Dirt Wheels for that full page ad. You would think you could pose naked yerself.
Originally posted by popo
For the amount of money you paid Dirt Wheels for that full page ad. You would think you could pose naked yerself.
Don't you think about doin it popo....:grr:
XANDADA
10-30-2003, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
Basiclly they changed my ad without my permission......trust me, i was torked!!!:grr:
I design/place ads for my company too. I would be demanding comp ads for that BS! Changing an ad without permission, wtf:huh
trueblue450
10-30-2003, 07:12 AM
they better give you next months ad for free. i know if they changed our ads we place w/o permision we raise hell!! I just wouldnt put ads in dirtwheels anymore, they are a bunch of *****if you look at any dirt bike magazine they have hot chicks all over the magazine, you look in dirtwheels and theres 12-15 year old girls washing quads.. just what i wanted to see :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
JLanphear
10-30-2003, 07:15 AM
You'd thought they would have at least let you alter the add yourself....if i were to look at the add that they put in, without seeing the original one you did I probably wouldn't notice anything odd, but after seeing both it looks like a big open space there. i don't have eyes like a graphic designer so I'm sure some people would pick up on that, not seeing the original work.
i can see them altering pics that readers send in and stuff, but a paying customer....BS
Dana is showing quite a bit of skin on there too....i'm suprised they didn't cover him up :p
JustRace
10-30-2003, 08:01 AM
Yeah thats a bunch of BS. In dirtwheels latest issue, which you guys have an ad for Huevos 6, there is a picture with a bunch of girls sitting on a golf cart I think. If you also go back to say 94 dirtwheels used to use models sitting on top of the quads. I have all those issues too. lol
danyeo
10-30-2003, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by coryatver
They censor the word Devil in the Dirt Devil Tire ads. I think that is kind of strange.
Your Kidding me right? Geesh, you know i think I'm a good person and i won't be burning crosses or chanting rituals to raise the dead but COME ON! SOme of these Christians or whoever they are really need to mellow out a little bit.
How could they take out a friggen shadow of some chick :huh . That has to be the biggest bunch of chit I have ever seen!
Originally posted by danyeo
SOme of these Christians or whoever they are really need to mellow out a little bit.
Easy on the words and finger pointin cheif..:grr: Go read my response and you'll know why this probably happened..
LTandRaptorider
10-30-2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
alright here she is...........
whats your opinions on this......they said it was to offensive......i got 2 words for that:blah:
Basiclly they changed my ad without my permission......trust me, i was torked!!!:grr:
Its only a silloutte of a chick, and shes not even naked
Dirtwheels said "Would you show that to a priest?"
Im thinking, hell yea, why not? But whatever.....its sux, they won't let me use hot ladies showing skin, my august ad barely went through.....just because theres an inch of leg:rolleyes:
heres the real ad i summitted, then the ad they printed:mad:
If you were to show the ad to a priest, you'd have to change the sillouette to one of an altar boy... :eek2:
Pappy
10-30-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by LTandRaptorider
If you were to show the ad to a priest, you'd have to change the sillouette to one of an altar boy... :eek2:
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!
Greg Z
10-30-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
Dirtwheels said "Would you show that to a priest?"
Why would a priest care I mean come on they look at little boys
400exdad
10-30-2003, 10:50 AM
I don't think it has anything to do with censorship.... I think it has everything to do with litigation. They are simply afraid that somebody (with a very small mind) will get offended and sue. While I do think its a bit over the top to blur the word "devil", place black bars over certain t-shirts, or change the ad the way that they did, they are simply covering their butts... Can I say that? No offense intended! :) A good example is that you can't even compliment a co-worker because it might be harassement in the work place.
XANDADA
10-30-2003, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by 400exdad
I don't think it has anything to do with censorship.... I think it has everything to do with litigation. They are simply afraid that somebody (with a very small mind) will get offended and sue. While I do think its a bit over the top to blur the word "devil", place black bars over certain t-shirts, or change the ad the way that they did, they are simply covering their butts... Can I say that? No offense intended! :) A good example is that you can't even compliment a co-worker because it might be harassement in the work place.
They have the right to refuse any artwork however they do NOT have the right to alter it. Shame on them...surmon done....
lmgdao on that alter boy comment, good one:devil:
Z400central
10-30-2003, 11:49 AM
that sucks man!!! you guys have had pics before with women in them right? Weird.....How much does a spot like that cost? I know when I looked into it, one page color was like $5,000 for one month! :eek2: Hey shift, check your PM's from me! :rolleyes:
cody anderson
10-30-2003, 12:31 PM
Thats because Dirt wheels is going soft!!!! ATVSPORT is where it's at bro!!!!! No, for real in all seriousness, I think that ad is bad *** Danny. I don't think there should have been a problem with it. But, what the hell, I'm not working gor them either so... what do I know?:confused:
Ralph
10-30-2003, 12:48 PM
put a sublimidal message in the next one, something they wont pick up...something sexual...
mrusk
10-30-2003, 01:25 PM
I got the dirt wheels yesterday. I thumbed through it then put it out in the trash because thats were it belongs. The whole rag is 230 pages long. It don't think there was more then 35 pages of acctual text. The rest of the mag was advertisements for 50 shops selling the same parts at the same prices. I read the article on ALBA. The whole article couldn't of been more then 1 1/2 pages long. I had to turn the pages aleast 6 times to finish reading the article. WTF.
Its bull that they edited the ad. It really pisses me off. Dirt bike mags have loads of chicks. Its not that i read the mags to see chicks, its the prinipal behind it. Everything in life can't be G rated.
matt
Doibugu2
10-30-2003, 01:48 PM
Last time I checked, most places can choose to print what ever they want. And if they choose to not print your ad how you wanted, then take or business else where.
Should they changed it without your permission? No, probably not, but I'm sure you agree to something when you submit to them. Basically they have full reign over what is printed in there mag.
XANDADA
10-30-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Doibugu2
Should they changed it without your permission? No, probably not, but I'm sure you agree to something when you submit to them. Basically they have full reign over what is printed in there mag.
I'm in a completely different industry so maybe its different at dirtwheels but in the over 80 full color/ full page spreads I have purchased I have never heard of someone changing ad content/layout or positioning without prior written approval. I had someone change my ad position once w/o my approval and they ended up giving me three complimentary reruns & a 2 page editorial review. That's just for putting it on the wrong page.
you should call up dirtwheels and ask them if theyd live there kid alone in a room with a priest and see what they say
hessianmx111
10-30-2003, 04:21 PM
ya see this is why i ride bikes because the magazines have girls in them:p jk but i have always wondered about the whole dirt devil thing i just thought the tire was changed to dirt d or something lmao. and i must comment whoever made the alter boy comment.
Adam202
10-30-2003, 04:31 PM
this months ad [December], took this yesterday while thinking this was the ad. but wrong month.
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26132/p/549459_3099908040191485592_vl.jpg
Adam202
10-30-2003, 04:34 PM
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26132/p/550630_886877020621895625_vl.jpg
Dan_Guetter
10-30-2003, 04:36 PM
uummmmm, damn that was quick............i made that 2 page ad in one day, its not my best work......i was rushed
now the huevos ad i thought was really cool!!!!!
phatswinn
10-30-2003, 04:39 PM
fox catologs have pictures of girls i put on my walls sometimes
why cant dirtwheels have them!:grr:
mrusk
10-30-2003, 04:50 PM
I did alil work. In the Dec DW there are 240 pages. i Counted 192 pages full or mostly full of adds. I did not count the half adds. That means there are less then 48 pages of in this rag. That is unacceptable.
matt
Adam202
10-30-2003, 05:03 PM
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26132/p/457485_9067753750558731220_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26132/p/457486_8917686088952194390_vl.jpg
counted 60 pages of ads on atv sport and it has 107 pages, i counted 130 pages of ads on dirtwheels and it has 227 pages, so roughly 100 DW pages vs about ATV Sport 50 pages of info. Dirtwheels is the best out there, im so sick of people *****ing about this magazine, you dont like it dont read it. its WAY better than nothing. you want such a good magazine you make it. id like to see a magazine without ads, actually, it doesnt exist, you know how much money the magazines make through selling ads?
Adam202
10-30-2003, 05:04 PM
this info is from a old post about 3 months ago, each page that only had 1 small ad i counted as a half page.
Punk'd
10-30-2003, 05:14 PM
WTF its anit even a real women its yellow wats so bad bout that????:huh
Juggalo
10-30-2003, 09:42 PM
dirtwheels is dumb. i hate excessive censorship. actually i hate censorship in general for too many reasons to get into here but anybody with half a brain knows the effects of censorship. dirtwheels censors the word "devil" for christs sake. just take a look at the GBC dirt devil tire ads or the "dirt d" as they call it. garbage.
Nausty
10-30-2003, 10:15 PM
not to mention the fact that everything in there is repetitive and imo they don't have a clue what they are talking about half the time.
Zero74
10-30-2003, 11:37 PM
Dirt Wheels pretty much sucks and is very biased. At least thats my opinion of there magazine. Best atv info i ever gotten was from a forums like this, where you can see REAL rider feedback on certain topics. I will give Dirt Wheels credit though, for such chitty magazine they sure are the most popular atv magazine out there, and thats scary.
Juggalo
10-31-2003, 03:00 AM
yeah but you take the pages that aren't ads from dirtwheels and you read em and you find out they are just ads in disguise!! not only do they favor certain quads but how many features have you seen in there like toomey T-4 pipe, this pipe is the best blah blah, next month issue pro circuit pipe this pipe makes more power than any other pipe, or they will have a huge article on an engine builder or company. i miss the days when they gave out real info and had real reviews back in the 3 wheeler days. if they ever have anything bad to say about a quad they candy coat it so much that you need to think long and hard about what they are saying to realize its somethin they don't like. screw dirtwheels. if i won the lottery i'd start my own quad magazine and it would be just like racer X, or transworld MX, or pretty much any of the bike mags out there. pull no punches on reviews, give out real factual info and helpful tech articles unlike some of the absurd ones you see in dirtwheels, and i wouldn't be afraid to be PG-13. the target audience is 14-25 year olds anyways (i know all ages participate but theres no denyings thats the largest segment of ages in the sport), so if you are one of those stupid parents that overprotect their childrean,and you have some qualms about the content of my mag, then don't buy it. it will be more popular anyways if its not all *****.
400exdad
10-31-2003, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by XANDADA
They have the right to refuse any artwork however they do NOT have the right to alter it. Shame on them...surmon done....
lmgdao on that alter boy comment, good one:devil:
I bet the fine print in the contract clearly states that they have final editing rights. Be honest, the general content was not altered in any way. They just took away the hook!:blah:
400exdad
10-31-2003, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by Juggalo
.....so if you are one of those stupid parents that overprotect their childrean,and you have some qualms about the content of my mag, then don't buy it. it will be more popular anyways if its not all *****.
You're all of 18 yo Juggalo... wait till you have kids before you start calling caring parents stupid.
JLanphear
10-31-2003, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by 400exdad
You're all of 18 yo Juggalo... wait till you have kids before you start calling caring parents stupid.
I didn't see any place that he said all parents were stupid? He said, "if you are one of those stupid parents". You agree that there are plenty of stupid people that are parents right?
XANDADA
10-31-2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by JLanphear
You agree that there are plenty of stupid people that are parents right?
Too many:(
Juggalo
10-31-2003, 11:49 AM
400exdad- i understand what your saying. i'm sure i will be singing a different tune when i am a parent. but theres one thing that i'm sure of, i won't shelter them to the point where they don't know the basics of how the real world works or some of the harsh realities of the world. and i'm certainly not going to care if my child sees a siluhette (sp) of a lady in an ad, hell when their little they probably will be more interested in the pictures of guys doing tricks if they are interested in the ad at all, and when they get older i'm sure they could care less about a siluette. if their anything like their old man that is!
400exdad
10-31-2003, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by JLanphear
I didn't see any place that he said all parents were stupid? He said, "if you are one of those stupid parents". You agree that there are plenty of stupid people that are parents right?
Yes, I do agree there are plenty....
Juggalo, let me tell ya, being a good parent is probably one of the most difficult jobs on earth! Riding that fine line.... letting them grow, learn, and become a young adult, while still trying to keep'em safe, is very tough.
I agree that the silouette was no big deal. It was by no means distasteful or could even be considered porn...
Juggalo
10-31-2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by 400exdad
Juggalo, let me tell ya, being a good parent is probably one of the most difficult jobs on earth! Riding that fine line.... letting them grow, learn, and become a young adult, while still trying to keep'em safe, is very tough.
i believe that 100%. i'm both looking forward to and dreading the day i have to start raising a child.
seatec
10-31-2003, 02:16 PM
i think maybe the point is , where does a Mag draw the line. It's clear thet DirtWheels is very family oriented. I'm not defending them but you can always say, i wont read it and i wont advertize with them. I do think they shouldve told you that they where changing the ad layout though.
i like ads. but dirtwheels and all them are just gay
Got Huevos?
11-01-2003, 01:47 AM
good parents hit their kids :D im gonna discipline my kids. :D
revolution86
11-02-2003, 01:56 PM
Shift DVS, why bother with Dirtwheels. ATV Sport is ten times the magazine that Dirtwheels could dream of being.
One day my friends... one day I want to start my own quad/lifestyle magazine. people would get heart-attacks from reading it. Every issue we'd destroy five quads. And instead of rider bios, we'd have two pro riders fight bare-knuckle boxing no rules and see who's actually better. Tons of naked chicks splashed through the pages and lots of rider injuries.
And instead of dumb tech stories like "how to install handlebars" we'd cut frames in half and weld 250R clips onto blasters and stuff. We'd have funny redneck build-ups like putting CB360 motors in ATC185s and instead of always having "top ten best parts for your ATV" we'd have "the annual list of top ten worst products for your ATV"
Oh, and did I mention we'd piss basically everyone off?
One day, my friends! Who will finance me!?
Originally posted by revolution86
Shift DVS, why bother with Dirtwheels. ATV Sport is ten times the magazine that Dirtwheels could dream of being.
One day my friends... one day I want to start my own quad/lifestyle magazine. people would get heart-attacks from reading it. Every issue we'd destroy five quads. And instead of rider bios, we'd have two pro riders fight bare-knuckle boxing no rules and see who's actually better. Tons of naked chicks splashed through the pages and lots of rider injuries.
And instead of dumb tech stories like "how to install handlebars" we'd cut frames in half and weld 250R clips onto blasters and stuff. We'd have funny redneck build-ups like putting CB360 motors in ATC185s and instead of always having "top ten best parts for your ATV" we'd have "the annual list of top ten worst products for your ATV"
Oh, and did I mention we'd piss basically everyone off?
One day, my friends! Who will finance me!?
why would anyone buy it
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