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erichsen18
10-15-2003, 05:50 PM
alright, im having a tough decision on some rims and tires. I was goin to go with the new razrs then i thought about the old ones and now im thinkin about some ITP holeshots. I dont want the MX version of anything b.c i do trail riding to. I was lookin at the ITP holeshot cross country ones. they look pretty damn good to me.

--now about rims. I have always wanted the cool lookin ITP beadlocks. I really like them but have no clue how much they are or where i can buy them at. Any help appreciated.

erichsen18
10-15-2003, 08:36 PM
come on somebody has to know something!!!

K_Fulk
10-15-2003, 09:15 PM
the xc holeshots are a pretty hard compound i would go with the holeshot xcr's.

JOEX
10-15-2003, 09:29 PM
Have you thought about Kenda Klaws? They seem to be a very good tire and i'll probably be getting them when I can.

Do think you really need beadlocks? They run about $100 - $150 each.

Joe

erichsen18
10-16-2003, 02:38 PM
hey...i dont need beadlocks i was just goin to get them b.c i like the qualities of them b.c i didnt know the price. but what other kinda rims are there? my friend has douglas red labels, but i dont like them b.c the outer ring on his is all beat up already and i dont think they are that strong. So does anyone disagree with the ITP Holeshot XCR's? does that stand for cross country race or something?

hondapunk
10-16-2003, 02:53 PM
Every tire I ever bought were the holeshots. ITP makes a mean tire. I love them. I would go with the XCRs because they are for the trails but have the mx style tread. Its pretty much a 6ply mx tire. As far as the rims go i got a pair of ITP T-9s and they are awsome. I agree the red labels and itp .190s the edges get beat pretty damn bad. I would check out ebay. They got great deals on rims and tires.

erichsen18
10-16-2003, 02:55 PM
alright thanks man...as for now i think im gettin some ITP holeshot xcr's then

hondapunk
10-16-2003, 02:57 PM
Sweet Good Luck!!!!!!

JOEX
10-16-2003, 09:06 PM
Another option would be reinforced rims. They have a ring that is welded into the lip. You can buy the rings seperatly and have them welded in. I'm not sure where to get them but they are out there.

ITP has the Baja rim that has the ring rolled into it. Haven't heard any long term use reports yet. They are $90 - $100 each.

I have a set of ITP .190 fronts with the odd ball offset. They are fairly banged up but they still hold air.

Joe

hondapunk
10-16-2003, 09:12 PM
Those are the same rims im talking about. The t-9s they have the ring. I got the rears for 200$

JOEX
10-16-2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by hondapunk
Those are the same rims im talking about. The t-9s they have the ring. I got the rears for 200$
Yea, you're right. I was confusing them with the C-series:p

Joe

hondapunk
10-16-2003, 09:21 PM
lol they got so many different kinds of rims now :D

zfire_28
10-16-2003, 10:16 PM
ITP Baja rims are really nice. They are the same as the reinforced race wheels only the ring is rolled in instead of welded and they cost less. I have put mine through hell and they have not bent yet. They look pretty sweet too:)

zfire_28
10-16-2003, 10:21 PM
Where at in Illinois do you live erichsen

muff
10-17-2003, 04:38 AM
yea if you have a little extra money get the bajas, its a tough design and cheaper than beadlocks, i have no personal experience with these rims but i've seen em in action and they look good

the holeshot xcr is a tough tire, pick up a 20" rear and that will work good for trails and any other kind of riding you want to throw at em

burgards beadlocks are $120 each

hondapunk
10-17-2003, 01:43 PM
I forgot all about Burgard!! They are an awsome company. Make some really good stuff.

erichsen18
10-17-2003, 02:48 PM
I live in Colona, Illinois...the Quad Cities if you know what im talkin about

bigfoot300ex
10-17-2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by muff
yea if you have a little extra money get the bajas, its a tough design and cheaper than beadlocks, i have no personal experience with these rims but i've seen em in action and they look good

the holeshot xcr is a tough tire, pick up a 20" rear and that will work good for trails and any other kind of riding you want to throw at em

burgards beadlocks are $120 each

yeah i highly reccomend the burgard beadlocks
they are about the same price as wheels with rings
i bent my .190's soon after i got them so i got the burgards and i havent had and trouble about anything
just my $.02

erichsen18
10-18-2003, 12:39 AM
i was just checkin out the Burgard ones and i think they are awesome. But i was just wondering about the sizes. it says the biggest they are is a 9" i was thinkin about goin to 10" should i just stay with 9"? and about the offset, it says 3x5 i think what does that mean?

muff
10-18-2003, 08:13 AM
what kind of riding do you do?

only use 10" if you run flattrack

9" is best for trails and stuff with 20 or 22" tires
8" is best for mx with 18" tires

10-18-2003, 08:16 AM
22" tires=more ground clearance & faster top speed....harder to do wheelies....im going back to 20's come halloween. I dont know what tires to get though for the back.......my budget is $110 with shipping. :eek:

muff
10-18-2003, 08:24 AM
I'm sure you could pick some up at the quad shop for $110

if you get 22" rears slap a 14 tooth front sproket on there and you'll be all set, it'll be like stock gearing w/ stock tires

burgard only makes rear beadlocks in 8 or 9"

erichsen18
10-18-2003, 10:16 AM
ive only had a quad for about 4 months now and i do trail riding and startin to run on some tracks so i dont know much about this stuff yet. So my best option right now would be get some burgard beadlocks in the 9" and some ITP holeshot XCR 20x11x9 on the back?

10-18-2003, 10:52 AM
very good setup ericson....;)

muff
10-18-2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Crazy400exMan
very good setup ericson....;)

yea that would work quite well for what you're looking for

erichsen18
10-18-2003, 02:18 PM
is there anywhere i can buy the tires and rims that i want as a set so they are cheaper? or do any of you know where to get these out pretty cheap?

Trx4Life
10-18-2003, 02:29 PM
If you dont plan on raceing id go with the blackwaters. I bought a 300ex a few years back that had some on it and they pull great on regurlar trails, outstanding in the mud, and do quite well in the sand too. They are made in a 20". I have never run holeshots but i hear they are a great tire also. I spent a lot of time in the mud thats probley why I liked the blackwaters so much.

muff
10-19-2003, 12:13 PM
blackwaters may be tough and good for mud but they have an extra 50lbs that you dont wanna be spinning around

stick with the holeshots

a few years ago when i first got a 300ex I thought that holeshots would suck because theres like no tread on them, so i got blackwaters...i thought that mud tires were the way to go until i got a 400ex with holeshots and i'm not goin back since

muff
10-19-2003, 12:14 PM
also www.rockymountainatv.com has the best prices you'll find unless you have a good sponser or an awesome local shop

Chanman420q
10-19-2003, 12:36 PM
i dont like the holeshots all that much, there good tires, but ive always foind the Razrs to be better for where i ride, which is a mix of everything. And ive never had a problem with them. Plus there cheaper too. And the wear is awesome, i have about 15 rides on my razrs and theres about 95% tred left

10-19-2003, 12:50 PM
rockymountain has very good prices untill you call them for shipping....they get you there, they charged me $50 to ship 4 tires :rolleyes: im getting my next set from the local dealership...since denniskirk has free shipping they just charge an outrageous price out front :eek2:

user101
10-19-2003, 01:15 PM
my razrs lasted 1 years and they still have 40% tread on them.:eek2: they were the best tire ive ever had. the holeshots i had kept getting holes put in them. the razrs got 1 hole in 1 year. i currently have the kenda knarly rear/kenda klaw front and i really like it. these tires just cant be beat for the price. ill be goin back to razrs next time tho.

erichsen18
10-19-2003, 04:54 PM
man, now you guys got me changin my mind...I dont know what i want now either the holeshots or some of the razrs

erichsen18
10-19-2003, 06:53 PM
well after some thought i think im goin to go with the Razrs just for the simple fact the Holeshot XCR are $70 a piece and the razrs i found for about 50 a piece and if i destroy a tire id rather spend 50 than 70. So think im gettin razrs ive only heard good things about them. but my question now is should i get the original ones or the razr 2s?

10-19-2003, 07:48 PM
razr 2's if you have problems getting flats & have some extra money to spend. where did you find the razr's for $50 a pice? if you say rockymountain they are going to charge you a whole lot for shipping :( i really want some razr's & $50 is a real good deal..oh, my friend has some XC holeshots & they suck, wont even stay on the bead :p

erichsen18
10-19-2003, 08:04 PM
im pretty sure it was rocky mountain...i guess ill look elsewhere. I HATE SHIPPING CHARGES

muff
10-20-2003, 01:04 PM
lol you guys are complaining because the tires not seating the bead, you have to make it seat the bead :huh

they may charge a lot for shipping but you are still getting a deal