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sampleez
10-06-2003, 11:55 AM
i was wondering if anyone has this setup, and what you think about it. A buddy of mine has it and he says it will smoke a 440 bore.

Wheelie
10-06-2003, 01:47 PM
As far as I know there is no 416 stroker, the smallest stroker out there is a 440: a 87mm piston with a 74.5mm stroke (stock is 85x70).

Most commonly a 416 is punching the stock liner .080 over, taking the stock piston from 85mm to 87mm.

MIA450R
10-06-2003, 07:01 PM
Don't knock the 416's...even without the stroker.

Mine easily walks away from 430's. Ive never raced a 440, but I do keep up with Raptors and DS650's, so I can't imagine a 440 has anything on me.

stupid driver
10-06-2003, 07:51 PM
yes, if you get a plain 416, (stock stroke) you will be very pleased. Ive heard that when built right, they will take a 440.

Cannonball08
10-06-2003, 09:50 PM
I have both a 440 and 416, and you guys are crazy if you think your properly built 416 will smoke a properly buit 440!

stupid driver
10-07-2003, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by Cannonball08
I have both a 440 and 416, and you guys are crazy if you think your properly built 416 will smoke a properly buit 440!

ya dont say. I know a 416 aint gonna take a sparks 440 or somethin like that, but ive seen it w/ my own eyes. Those 416's rev VERY quickly, and its not uncommon for them to beat a 440

sampleez
10-12-2003, 06:31 PM
this is the 416 bore with a 4mm stroke, so it is a 440

Cannonball08
10-13-2003, 07:43 AM
Ive HEARD that when built right, they will take a 440.




I know a 416 aint gonna take a sparks 440 or somethin like that, but ive SEEN IT W/ MY OWN EYES. Those 416's rev VERY quickly, and its not uncommon for them to beat a 440


So witch is it you heard a 416 will take a 440 or you have seen it with you own eyes? I own both and ride both everyday. 416's won't beat 440's people.

stupid driver
10-13-2003, 03:07 PM
yes, i have SEEN a 416 take a 440. But what does the power matter anyways?? havin the bigger, stronger motor dont meen jack if you cant ride.

About the 416 bore 440 stroker. IT will probably be faster than the plain 440. You will rev lots faster

EvilEwok
10-13-2003, 04:28 PM
I say screw em both and stay stock or jump a big bore in there for a 516 :p

01_400exrider
10-13-2003, 08:07 PM
I would like to see a 416 beat me :p Whenever, wherever!

sampleez
10-13-2003, 08:14 PM
alright, how about anyone that HAS the stroked 416

sampleez
10-13-2003, 08:18 PM
i wouldn't be sayin that so much 01_400exrider, i've seen quite a few 416's beat 440's, cause displacement isn't the only way to be faster, ie porting, carboration, RIDER, gearing

01_400exrider
10-13-2003, 08:20 PM
Theres no substitute for horsepower:D

But i do agree, rider plays one of the biggest roles on a bike. If you cant ride i wouldnt suggest getting a 440 kit tho:eek2:

TT 400ex
10-13-2003, 08:33 PM
01-400exrider i have a 416 and ill take you up on your offer so do you have a 440 who did it. do you race. so are you game

01_400exrider
10-13-2003, 08:35 PM
Lets race... Dunes...Drags....Whatever u want bud. Just got a new bottle 2!

Bad Habit
10-13-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by 01_400exrider
I would like to see a 416 beat me :p Whenever, wherever!

LOL, would that be with or without the nitrous??

TT 400ex
10-13-2003, 08:42 PM
ok you said a 440 could walk over a 416 im not a dragger i dont a have a bottle so ill let my 2 year old hold your bottle and well race theres a race in chowchilla on the 25 ill be there if you want to meet up beforehand ill do it if not theres a new race series in your town that just started so we can meet up when im down there. so what do you have and who built it

Chef
10-13-2003, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by 01_400exrider
Theres no substitute for horsepower:D

But i do agree, rider plays one of the biggest roles on a bike. If you cant ride i wouldnt suggest getting a 440 kit tho:eek2:

There is a 416 sitting in my shop that would more than likely walk all over your 440. There is also a 460 that wouldnt even sweat your 440. Take your pick.:)

sampleez
10-13-2003, 08:42 PM
funny the nitrous and porting and polishing wasn't there a few minutes ago

stupid driver
10-13-2003, 08:43 PM
i got winner:D :devil: :macho

stupid driver
10-13-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Chef
There is a 416 sitting in my shop that would more than likely walk all over your 440. There is also a 460 that wouldnt even sweat your 440. Take your pick.:)

i no longer have winner :( :o :(

310Rduner
10-13-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Chef
There is a 416 sitting in my shop that would more than likely walk all over your 440. There is also a 460 that wouldnt even sweat your 440. Take your pick.:)

(Insert whip crack)

You guys loose;)

sampleez
10-13-2003, 08:54 PM
i still haven't heard from anyone with the stroked 416

TT 400ex
10-13-2003, 09:06 PM
hey 310 you always run on someone elses coat tail. im sure chef and i will run into each other some day both of us are love to TT and arent that far away. but i would take him up on his 416 but 01-400exrider did run from this subject

Chef
10-13-2003, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by TT 400ex
hey 310 you always run on someone elses coat tail. im sure chef and i will run into each other some day both of us are love to TT and arent that far away. but i would take him up on his 416 but 01-400exrider did run from this subject

Its not my 416, but it does run pretty good considering how mild it is. Wonder where the little dude with the nitrous went though?:confused:

TT 400ex
10-13-2003, 09:12 PM
so you eveer think about coming down to these parts to race if so let me know we have some really good track and some good riders 2 made it into the mains in the stadium series last year you should try to come down next year

stupid driver
10-13-2003, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Chef
Its not my 416, but it does run pretty good considering how mild it is. Wonder where the little dude with the nitrous went though?:confused:

to have his boondockers can filled down at napa :rolleyes:

310Rduner
10-13-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by TT 400ex
hey 310 you always run on someone elses coat tail. im sure chef and i will run into each other some day both of us are love to TT and arent that far away. but i would take him up on his 416 but 01-400exrider did run from this subject

Oh dear christ.. now u dun it..:mad:

lol j/p.. i just make jokes where i see fit...

You talking about the Mutant motorsports series.. or another?

Mutant just started a Tt series up here..