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Waynes400ex
10-03-2003, 01:38 AM
I was wondering what is better a hot cams stage 2 our the hrc cam? I want to keep stock springs and rockers. I ride dunes and mx. Thanks in advance
44oEX
10-03-2003, 05:17 AM
I would go with the hotcam stage 2
just my opinion.

But I have a web cam with is one of the best cam you can get but you have to change the spring and rocker
UglyMotha™
10-03-2003, 07:24 AM
stg 2 is goin to be you best bang for the buck but yet you can't beat the reliability of a honda part
Colby@C&DRacing
10-03-2003, 08:03 AM
I suggest the Hot Cam:)
Waynes400ex
10-03-2003, 09:26 AM
Isn't the stage 2 hotcam close to the hrc cam , in duration ?
UglyMotha™
10-03-2003, 09:34 AM
YUP
Waynes400ex
10-03-2003, 09:55 AM
Why does everyone like the hrc so much then ? Casuse it is a honda product?Are hotcams still having problems? I have heard they had a problem with something on there cams
F-16Guy
10-03-2003, 09:57 AM
You get a decompression mechanism and a lighter wallet with the HRC cam.:D
Doibugu2
10-03-2003, 10:00 AM
has any installed one of sparks "drop in cams"?

how does that match up to the great hotcam?
Waynes400ex
10-03-2003, 10:18 AM
Sparks wants like over 300 for his drop in cam. I cant get the hrc froms ervice honda for 277. Is not having the decomp with the hotcam a big deal?
UglyMotha™
10-03-2003, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Waynes400ex
Why does everyone like the hrc so much then ? Casuse it is a honda product?Are hotcams still having problems? I have heard they had a problem with something on there cams



yes hot cams did have a problem but they have long since fixed it now there cams has a casted flange instead of the pressed on so there are no worries i actually have there old style and it's still tighter than........... well lets just say it's tight:o
Doibugu2
10-03-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Waynes400ex
Sparks wants like over 300 for his drop in cam. I cant get the hrc froms ervice honda for 277. Is not having the decomp with the hotcam a big deal?


Yea I know. But if the gains are worth it, a few extra bucks isn't that big of a deal. Hell if I don't break anything for a few months, it would pay for itself.
10-03-2003, 10:39 AM
I"ve heard the sparks cam is one of the wildest cams out there...:eek:

But the price sucks....:mad:
Waynes400ex
10-03-2003, 10:41 AM
Does anyone know for sure how much the sparks cam is and the wait on it? As far as paying extra to make sure it doesnt break, the hrc cam should be the best at that i would think. who has the sparks drop in cam? our the hrc cam ? our even the stage 2 hotcam? compare contrast please!!
Doibugu2
10-03-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Rico
I"ve heard the sparks cam is one of the wildest cams out there...:eek:

But the price sucks....:mad:


The way you go through tires, I'm suprised you even look at the prices of things.
10-03-2003, 10:56 AM
Lift Duration@.050"Lift
Intake Exhaust Intake Exhaust
stock 400EX cam .316 .302 234 238
XR400 .326 .321 240 244
HRC .350 .339 254 256
GT Thunder .350 .345 256 256
WB Track .350 .345 256 256
WEB 450/451 .350 .345 256 256
WEB 479 .378 .378 250 250
WB All Around .345 .335 240 248
HOT/stg1 .354 .354 244 244
HOT/stg2 .346 .346 254 254
Waynes400ex
10-03-2003, 11:05 AM
Thanks for the numbers , what do i need to look for in the numbers? Also will port and polish make a difference in a 440 with 11 to 1 with a fcr and a drop in cam? Has anyone heard of ct racing's port work good or bad? Just asking cause they are close to my house.
Waynes400ex
10-03-2003, 12:25 PM
I have heard that with any drop in cam and a rev box that the valves with float no matter what. Has anyone else had this problem?
10-03-2003, 12:39 PM
Stock CDI is were it's at. Why risk blowin up your motor for a little more rev:confused: Run the stock CDI and hold the mofo wide open and be fine...:D
Waynes400ex
10-03-2003, 12:41 PM
If i keep the higher rev box and go with hd valve springs and hardfaced rockers everything will be fine right ?
rhandw69
10-03-2003, 03:33 PM
Who sells the HRC cam? Not too sure of any dealers, so if anyone knows of any??
Waynes400ex
10-03-2003, 05:06 PM
service honda has it for 277 cheapest i could find
JD400exrider
10-03-2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Waynes400ex
If i keep the higher rev box and go with hd valve springs and hardfaced rockers everything will be fine right ?

Hard faced rockers are not for the HRC or the hot cam. That will take out your cam quickly. The hot cam and the HRC are Drop In Cams. I was ready to install heavier springs. called to order some and the shop told me not to run heaver springs. I called three different builders. They all could have taken my money.

You could add an extra clip on the bottom of the stock springs to gain a little more seat pressure.
shadedog
10-03-2003, 10:18 PM
Im new here so be easy on me:)i just installed a sparks drop in aggressive cam,$375.00,sparks CDI,$99.00,sparks air filter with ring,Sparks FCR 39,$450.00,sparks X6 exhaust,and a set of works steelers with res on my stock 2002 400ex and all i can say is WOW!! made a huge difference.I also used the sparks airbox mod but i swear it made 100% diff in the power i have on my ex.I weigh about 250 and the front end comes up by itself in 2nd gear and comes up really easy in 3rd if i pull a bit.Guess im just a sparks fan but i really like the results. Later,Joe PS,i plan onb getting sparks to port and polish my head this winter and add the JT 11.1 piston with the stock bore.
Sandragggen
10-03-2003, 10:29 PM
Lift Duration@.050"Lift
Intake Exhaust Intake Exhaust
stock 400EX cam .316 .302 234 238
XR400 .326 .321 240 244
HRC .350 .339 254 256
GT Thunder .350 .345 256 256
WB Track .350 .345 256 256
WEB 450/451 .350 .345 256 256
WEB 479 .378 .378 250 250
WB All Around .345 .335 240 248
HOT/stg1 .354 .354 244 244
HOT/stg2 .346 .346 254 254

Forgot one Rico

WEB Grind #463/9i
Valve Lift .385/.370
Duration (in degrees) 310
Duration @.050 degrees 272/270

JMiller