Jeeps

[TheX1992]

who here has a jeep and goes off roadin with it? heres me at my friends sand pit. all stock 2.5L V4 with some bigger tires but with my V4 i can go through more stuff in 2wd than others that have their vehicles in 4wd..just gotta know how to drive.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid79/pff9fa3f7650beab00f7b8399ce3e9a90/fb0d0245.jpg

[hawiianpwr]

I think you mean I-4. All of Jeeps motors are inline.:D

[TheX1992]

err ya lol my bad. see that hill in the background that goes up and then sharp to the left? im the only one that has made it up that so far suprizingly....all trucks have tried it.....its just sand......i dont understand its not that hard.....theres like a 2ft lip and a big rock at the top you have to go over thouh....i just putz up it in 1st

[GOMER007]

any more pic's?

[TheX1992]

not on this computer i do other places i will try to get

[ewalker302]

Yeah I got a 53 cj3b & I go offroad w/ it a lot more than on.

Mainly b/c it has a top speed of about 40 mph.
Its got like 5.63 gears in it.

Yeah & it's so little I can go places other 4x4's cant even think about.

[Burl Swift]

Jeeps are awesome. I'd love to get ahold of an ol' flatfender some day. That or and older CJ5.

Right now I'm in the the process of rebuilding an 81' Bronco. You can see what I'm doing here (http://bigb.mybigbronco.com/index.html).

Note: That is not my Bronco, nor is it my webpage, I'm just using this guys project as a blueprint since he's building the exact same year and setup I have.

[250x#93]

I want a jeep to go muddin wit

[GOMER007]

I almost got a 53 willys M38 army jeep and then I guy got it befor me. :ermm:

[wyndzer]

http://www.atvnc.com/yabbse/attachments/jeep.jpg

[MOFO]

wyndzer, whats the deal with that pic... is/was that yours?

Originally posted by hawiianpwr
I think you mean I-4. All of Jeeps motors are inline.:D

Really? The 4.0 Liter motors are a V-6. And the 304 is a V8. Then there would be the 345 I believe if I am not mistaken...

[ZJack]

No, the 4.0 is also inline. There were V-6s, but smaller, and there also used to be lots of diferent sizes of V-8s.

[MOFO]

Originally posted by HRC450R
Really? The 4.0 Liter motors are a V-6. And the 304 is a V8. Then there would be the 345 I believe if I am not mistaken...


Yep, 4.0L is an inline...

[lil400exman]

i am still trying to find a good toyota fj-40 landcruiser...talk about a sweet 4x4 lol i love em really good rack and pinion and great 4x4........

[wyndzer]

Originally posted by MOFO
wyndzer, whats the deal with that pic... is/was that yours?

That is my little brothers CJ-8, we did a frame off resto. on it last winter. I'll get some pics of it and post later. It has a 350 coupled to some kind of auto tranny, lockers front and rear, a bunch of upgrades to drive train and undercarraige for rock crawling. My dad has a red one too (which I drive, since he never does), with a 304 in it and 4 speed.

They are fun to go out for the weekend on, just too slow for me:devil:

[wyndzer]

Originally posted by lil400exman
i am still trying to find a good toyota fj-40 landcruiser...talk about a sweet 4x4 lol i love em really good rack and pinion and great 4x4........


There is a mint --- green FJ for sale here in town for $7200.00

[MOFO]

Originally posted by wyndzer
just too slow for me:devil:




I thought you liked that "Slow Ride".... :confused:




;)

[UglyMotha™]

Originally posted by wyndzer

They are fun to go out for the weekend on, just too slow for me:devil:


after cruising behind you at h/m i would have never thought you would like to go any faster:confused2

[wyndzer]

Originally posted by UglyMotha™
after cruising behind you at h/m i would have never thought you would like to go any faster:confused2

I'm just a little old slow man:rolleyes:

[TheX1992]

that is my dads jeep actually. its a 95 wrangler rio grande. i am looking at a 76 CJ5...AMC 304, just has a rough body...their fiberglass anyway ( i believe) so it wouldnt be that hard to fix. 500 bucks they want.... what do you guys think?

[Got Roost?]

i've got a '97 wrangler sahara w/ a 5" lift, 35s, 4.56 gears, lockers ect. it will crawl over just about anything you put in front of it.

[ridesa02400EX]

id much rather go with a toyota pickup or runner than a jeep anyday jeeps cost to much money to build and they dont wheel that good

Originally posted by ridesa02400EX
jeeps cost to much money to build and they dont wheel that good

No offense but you don't know what you're talkin' about.

[ridesa02400EX]

Originally posted by HRC450R
No offense but you don't know what you're talkin' about. alright even tho i go on one of the most famous wheelin trails in the world almost every other weekend i always see the jeeps takin all the bypasses and i know for a fact that jeeps cost more money to build i know the president of the pirates of the rubicon and i know a guy that owns a 4x4 shop that builds trucks for a living i can put 4 grand into my toyota and go anywhere and more than a 40,000 dollar jeep can

[D11NR]

Originally posted by ridesa02400EX
jeeps cost to much money to build and they dont wheel that good

I hate to intrude on this but what do you think started the thing in the beginning ( JEEPS ) sure they cost to build, like everything
else that kicks *****! as you can tell Im a jeep fan and unless youve owned one you wouldnt understand. Ive owned 3 now
2 wranglers and a grand cherokee, I say take your 4 grand and trade in your toy for something that will hold its value you wont be dissappointed. Im not flamin you man I just dont think youve been in a jeep that was honestly tricked out.

[ridesa02400EX]

ok i can admit i like some jeeps but the ones that i do like also have chevy 350s and chevy axles the ones where the only thing that is jeep on them is the body and frame i like those if anybody has been to the rubicon i watched a toyota with a lift, tires, and a locker go through the box thats all it had and the only jeeps i saw even attemp the box were pretty much buggys with jeep bodys so the yota was pretty much stock i didnt see a single jeep that was even close to being stock try the box

[JD400exrider]

Originally posted by ridesa02400EX
id much rather go with a toyota pickup or runner than a jeep anyday jeeps cost to much money to build and they dont wheel that good

The rubicon is one of the most well known trails around. Your toyota may wheel fine but I would much rather have a jeep than a toyota truck for wheelin. If for nothing else it is a Jeep. Like the other post stated it all started with the Jeep. I have followed a older bronco through a nice trail up out of blue lakes off 88. That bronco was a nice wheeler also.
My first ride many moons ago was a 45 willys flat fender with a flat head four cylinder. That sob would top out at 45 mph down hill but would climb a wall. What fun it was. Looking to get a
CJ 5 in the future as a project.

Where do you ride your quad ridesa02400ex . I am just down the hill from ya.

[ridesa02400EX]

i ride out in placerville in the national forest. i wanna go down to prairie but my friend crashed my quad and i need 400 bucks to fix it. bent steering stem, broken clutch perch, two flat tires, and some other little stuff

[ewalker302]

Originally posted by ridesa02400EX
id much rather go with a toyota pickup or runner than a jeep anyday jeeps cost to much money to build and they dont wheel that good


Put the same money in comparable jeeps & toyota pickups & runner & the Jeep will come out on top every time, (YJ-square headlidght models excluded)--worst jeep ever, well maybe after the liberty.

Even true for fj's cause parts are so expensive.

Although If I do like the 85 sr5's & runners, they are pretty tight I would jump on one of those in a second for the right price. So I'm not doggin yotas at all I like em 2, but u are dead wrong on some points. Jeep parts are cheaper than yota parts.

& jeeps don't wheel that good??? Get half a clue man.

Look up wheeling in the dictionary & you will see a pic of a jeep.

You better be thankin Ford & Willys you aren't typing in German right now.

Don't make me start posting data.
:bandit:

[GOMER007]

have you ever looked at a army jeep? the leef springs where made so they could drop out of air planes, I dont think your little toy could handel that.
the rear end is like sum thing that you would find it a 3/4 ton pickup now a dayz. you ever hear the storys of what guys did with the jeeps in ww2?? with a toyota you got to fix every thing cuz they rust out so quik and you see un restourd jeeps that ant even started to rust?:o

[ridesa02400EX]

ya im going from personal experience go to the rubicon how many of you have been there and if so how many times this is one of the best wheelin trails in the world and the toyotas do way better

[ridesa00400EX]

hahaha, jeep parts cheaper than toyota parts. now that will be the day. there is so many damn jeeps out there, that the aftermarket prices just keep jumping. plus, who in the hell is going to be jumping out of a damn plane with a toyota these days. that has nothing to do with wheelin.

[cdalejef]

Rowlrag and I do lots of rock crawling and have a bunch of pics but I don't know how to post them.:(

[cjpoole1]

Whats a jeep?;)
http://bxtrememotorsports.com/yfz/jeep.jpg

[sickyellow400ex]

i want a suzuki samari to crawl with

[cdalejef]

Here is the first one that I built. Has full width Dana 44's, 36" swampers and a 16 valve MPI Tracker motorhttp://www.dirtgirlzextreme.com/JStoess4.jpg http://www.dirtgirlzextreme.com/JStoess3.jpg http://www.dirtgirlzextreme.com/JStoess1.jpg

[ridesa02400EX]

my friends zuk has dana 44s, 36 inch TSL SXs, and ARB air lockers

[sickyellow400ex]

that thing is awsome. did u fabricate the lift or buy it

[sickyellow400ex]

i got the full size for the mud but i want to build a sami for the woods and rocks

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by sickyellow400ex
that thing is awsome. did u fabricate the lift or buy it everything is custom!
Rowlrag and I are working on a new one with 4 link suspension, Dana 44's, 35" MTR's and 4' long Elka shocks!:D

[wyndzer]

Jeeps? What's that?

http://www.atvnc.com/yabbse/attachments/Oakridge_Scrambler..jpg

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by wyndzer
Jeeps? What's that?

http://www.atvnc.com/yabbse/attachments/Oakridge_Scrambler..jpg Is that Taco driving? :confused:

[ridesa02400EX]

is that supposed to be impressive?:rolleyes: :) jk

[Guy400]

If you're a serious offroader than a Jeep is a great vehicle. However, in my opinion they suck just about everywhere else. My father had a '79 CJ7 with a 304 4-speed. Even with the hardtop on it the thing would never get warm on the inside during the winter. It wandered all over the road if you got above about 55mph. The steel bodies are garbage. They rust out so quickly and go check out a Jeep dealership, you can see the spot welds from the outside where the rear fenderwell is welded to the outer skin. Driving with a softtop on in the rain sucks because at highway speeds the doors flap enough to allow water inside. My cousin bought that Jeep and put a 350 in it with a full frame-off resto including a full fiberglass body. The rusting stopped but everything else remained the same.

[wyndzer]

I thought that the only Jeeps allowed on the road were Grand Cherokee's?:confused:

[Guy400]

Originally posted by wyndzer
I thought that the only Jeeps allowed on the road were Grand Cherokee's?:confused: Maybe that should be the law because my grandfather's GC is real nice. Our CJ's road manners were awful.

[ridesa02400EX]

serious offroaders build their own rigs or buy toyotas lol jk i went to cal rocs this weekend and watched a IFS toyota against a jeep and the jeep mad it up like the first little part of the rock pile and got stuck and had to have a crane take it off the rocks the toyota came really close to finishing but he finally got stuck like 5 feet away from the finish http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=186643

[cdalejef]

Its a Jeep thing Guy! Here is my 92 XJ Limited

http://www.geocities.com/baja/dunes/9350/brag/jeff7.jpg http://www.geocities.com/baja/dunes/9350/brag/jeff22.jpg http://www.geocities.com/baja/dunes/9350/brag/jeff4.jpg

[Tina]

http://imageevent.com/tealj/july19202003;jsessionid=0z7t8irfb2.rabbit_s

Pics 1 & 2 are me and Michael in my TJ.

It's for sale by the way.:(



http://www.rauschcreekoffroadpark.org/home.asp

[KrazyKid300ex]

i am starting to do more and more wheeling but i don't do the rocks stuff. im just a trail riders kind of person. I do not have a jeep but i do have a bronco. nice v-8 power but the fullsize is huge. i can't drive yet legally but when i do it will be my daily driver/ wheeler until i find another fullsize to make a full wheeler.

[ridesa02400EX]

I understand the jeep thing thats why i drive a toyota

[ridesa02400EX]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
everything is custom!
Rowlrag and I are working on a new one with 4 link suspension, Dana 44's, 35" MTR's and 4' long Elka shocks!:D

MTR's? dont get MTR's ive gone through three of them. that durawall puncture resistant sidewall is a bunch of crap. last time i went up to the con i saw a jeep sitting there fixing two flat MTRs. get some BFG krawlers.

[BKex]

Jeeps, oh man. Today me and my friends where going up to silver lake them with their Grand Cherokees and me with my R. Well within an hour after we left we where on the side of the road because one of them split the transfer case right in half that was nasty at 80mph, so we called a wrecker loaded up the other jeep and decided to keep going after about another 70 miles when we stop at a gas station i look down and see trans fluid leaking out pretty quickly. So we turn around and nurse the truck back about 200 miles. Left at 7am just got back at 5pm. Didnt even get to the dunes:mad:

[ridesa02400EX]

thats a jeep for ya

[J-Nubs]

heres mine i could probably post some more pics but this is probably my favorite shot

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p0bc71d832e08f5c57839dbc36fd7d5b3/fa990955.jpg

[Burl Swift]

Originally posted by BKex
Jeeps, oh man. Today me and my friends where going up to silver lake them with their Grand Cherokees and me with my R. Well within an hour after we left we where on the side of the road because one of them split the transfer case right in half that was nasty at 80mph, so we called a wrecker loaded up the other jeep and decided to keep going after about another 70 miles when we stop at a gas station i look down and see trans fluid leaking out pretty quickly. So we turn around and nurse the truck back about 200 miles. Left at 7am just got back at 5pm. Didnt even get to the dunes:mad:

Your quote leads me to believe that the jeep had 4 wheel drive engaged while driving down the road on the way to the dunes. If thats the case then I can totally understand why the transfer case grenaded. There isn't any stress on the transfer case when the jeep in is 2 wheel drive, only when the front hubs are engaged does the transfer case see any stress.

80mph on a stock transfer case while engaged is way too much.

[Warrioreater400ex]

well first off unless he has converted, most all jeeps dont have front hubs, the front driveshaft spins full time. but anyhow, if im gonna get anything to go offroad, its GONNA be a Toyota or a Jeep, no full size or old blazers or something. Personally im a Toyota guy all the way, and yeah i talk smack about jeeps when we are muddin or wheelin but when it comes down to it they are great too! Jeeps 4 cyl is pathetic, but then again the post 1985 toyotas have IFS which is a downer. both have gobs of aftermarket parts available! toyotas DEFINITELY have the reliability side. I used to have an 88 Toyota 4x4 with about 5 inches of lift and 33's with a few other goodies, and my friend dustin from school, who had a YJ with 4 inch superlift, and 3 inch body with 36" SX's, locked front and rear, line-X on the inside... this thing was AWESOME... he only went one place i couldnt go... now granted he got there easier, but still. However im still a die hard toyota fan! jeeps engineering just doesnt seem to be as good of quality as toyotas. my dad has a 02 YJ and its nice but i dont really like it, Dana 35 axle in the front is rather weak and the tranny shifts rough. The thing that bugs me about jeeps is that so many of them are driven by teenage girls or just guys who have no clue... yknow 3 inch body and 35's stuffed under there, never takes it off road etc, or has a stock jeep and thinks just cuz it says J-E-E-P on it that it will go anywhere.... thats the biggest thing that pisses me off, cuz i run into so many people who talk smack and say they could embarras my yota and stuff. and im like well what do you have, and they are like a jeep... im like ok and that automatically means what?? I am excited though I have a 97 Taco with 3.5 inch fabtech and 33's with a 6cyl and its great on the street and mud... but im building my 1985 4runner!!! it has a straight axle in the front and a fuel injected 22r-e... Im planin 6 inch NWOR springs with 36" boggers, lockers front and rear, gears, winch, and eventually a Marlin Crawler. its kinda like quads though, its just preference, just get what you want and go out and HAVE FUN... however i am still a die hard Yota man!:macho

[brian]

i would go so far as to say i hate jeeps.

they won a war, they were designed to be cheap and easy to build, in HUGE numbers and that they were. in the war they did what they needed to do.

but after the war nothing changed, they were built cheap and quick, and they still are.

the grand cher is nice and tight when their new, but once they get a few miles(say 30K or so) they go to he!!. buddy of mine worked at a chrysler dealer and saw plenty of jeeps.

the danglers or whatever their called now are produced in huge numbers and the aftermarket for them is equally as large. to the point that a great offroad machine can be made...i mean bought.

any jeep that see's a good bit of "real" offroading, has probably had most of it's OEM running gear replaced with heavier duty stuff.

i'm 100% a toyota person.

if you compare an older(70's or older) jeep cj to a simulair yr cruiser. you'll see just as much rust on the jeep as the toy(or 77-older bronco,binder,any other box on wheels).

stock for stock an FJ is WAY more better than a CJ.

modified for modified,it is so easy to buy anything you need to make a jeep, but isn't it funny how a 30+ yr old toyota will still hang with a newer(or older) jeep? these jeeps don't require you to do any thinking, just whip out your credit card and buy what you need.

my cruiser will hang with any new jeep(that still has it's oem axles) and it's almost 30. and the motor runs like a clock.

[ridesa02400EX]

hey warrioreater im also buildin a toyota i have an 84 pickup im runnin 63 inch chevy leafs in the rear (super flexy) and im runnin a toyota/jeep hybrid pack in the front, im gonna be putting a rear axle off of a 89 pickup on mine its 3 inches wider and a little bigger around, hy-steer, lockers front and rear, custom flatbed, custom front and rear tube bumpers, in cab cage, custom rock sliders, long spline front driveline, 36 inch TSLs, marlin crawler with gears in the cases, 5.29 gears in the diffs, johnny joints, longfields with chromoly inners, and a bunch of other stuff its gonna be sweet check out the pirate boards for all kinds of 4wd vehicles pirate 4x4 (www.pirate4x4.com)

[ewalker302]

To me a jeep means anything before they stopped making cj5-7's

Those are the real jeeps.

Jeeps are what wheeling is.

And go buy a car if you want a ride like a car & dont expect a jeep to run at highway speeds without wind noise.

As far as yotas go fj40's are comparable with jeeps in quality-strength.

But to say yota trucks & cruisers are stronger than jeeps is insane.

Ever heard of birfield joints yota drivers?? Bet you've bought some if you go into any rough stuff.

I've got a 53 (thats 50 years old not 30) with stock everything except seats & rollcage & I guarantee I can go at least as far & probably be pulling out any stock yota ever made.

The only reason the yotas (newer) are better than average offroad is because of ther quick & high revving engines.

Toyotas better than Jeeps at the rubicon??? Thats laughable... pick up a couple of off road mags & see what people are running on the tough trails.

Also why do you see so many more built up jeeps than Yotas if they are so much better & cheaper???

:bandit:

[D11NR]

Like I said before Jeeps started the whole thing. Jeeps are still Kickin *****. Nothing compares to a tricked out Jeep. Its a Jeep thing you wouldnt understand. I say dont go buy any Jeeps and buy all the other's instead. That way a true Jeep enthusiast wont have a problem finding one:devil: :D

[Burl Swift]

Originally posted by Warrioreater400ex
[B]well first off unless he has converted, most all jeeps dont have front hubs, the front driveshaft spins full time.

They have to have some sort of locking mechanism or else the jeeps would be in full time 4 wheel drive. I understand that the drive shaft would spin but that doesn't mean its producing torque to the front tires. A transfer case would be able to handle the rotation of the drive shaft but the real stress is when the front tires are engaged.

Unless there is something out there that I've never heard of before, which is possible.

[brian]

you've never heard of full time four wheel drive systems?
my old man's 79 cheroke had it...

and as for jeeps having a stronger running gear...not

the fj's(40,45,55,60,62 and 80's, models, not yrs) all have 3/4ton running gear(non-USA models have 1ton stuff,i.e full floating rears), jeeps are what? 1/4ton? put a healthy V8 in front of oem jeep trannies/transfer case and watch the parts fly. on the other hand fj trannies/transfers/rears handle the power just fine. even the hilux stuff is half ton stuff, and will handle v8's as well. tube bugies based on toyota's 90% of the time retain their orignal running gear.

the birfields are the weak link, but it's not as weak as what you have been lead to believe. crank the wheel hard to either side, add 35's or larger, a healthy motor , a heavy right foot and a front locker and of course somethings going to break.

jeeps NEED to built to wheel, in stock form they don't have the durablity.

http://www.boomspeed.com/kinky/snow40.JPG

[ridesa02400EX]

Originally posted by ewalker302
To me a jeep means anything before they stopped making cj5-7's

Those are the real jeeps.

Jeeps are what wheeling is.

And go buy a car if you want a ride like a car & dont expect a jeep to run at highway speeds without wind noise.

As far as yotas go fj40's are comparable with jeeps in quality-strength.

But to say yota trucks & cruisers are stronger than jeeps is insane.

Ever heard of birfield joints yota drivers?? Bet you've bought some if you go into any rough stuff.

I've got a 53 (thats 50 years old not 30) with stock everything except seats & rollcage & I guarantee I can go at least as far & probably be pulling out any stock yota ever made.

The only reason the yotas (newer) are better than average offroad is because of ther quick & high revving engines.

Toyotas better than Jeeps at the rubicon??? Thats laughable... pick up a couple of off road mags & see what people are running on the tough trails.

Also why do you see so many more built up jeeps than Yotas if they are so much better & cheaper???

:bandit: thats because most wheelin mags cover the jeepers jambo what they dont tell you is that all the jeeps take the bypasses and the birfields only break only serious stress such as having big tires with a locker and the wheels cranked to the right or left and you can get something called longfields which are also known as super birfields and are 30 percent stronger and toyota axles are a lot stronger than those dana 30s or whatever they are that jeeps have the only thing you need to do to toyota to make it wheel good is put a lift, tires, and a rear locker and thats pretty good for something that wasnt built in the first place to wheel you probably dont even need to do anything to a landcruiser. its pretty bad when you gotta do stuff to a jeep, a vehicle built for wheelin and how many times have you been to the rubicon? i know from first hand experience

[goochy]

:D I just bought a 1995 Jeep Sahari Wrangler with 6 cyl, 6 in lift with 33s on it. Its my toy to drive to work, and park the F 250.

[brian]

a few things most people don't know about the cruiser

it went to war also...
back in the 50's it made it to the 7th station of MT Fuji(the first motor vehicile to do so), the jeep broke at the 5th station.
alwhile the jeep was for sale here first the cruiser isn't far behind, 1958. it had been avaible in japan from about 52-3.

"I've got a 53 (thats 50 years old not 30) with stock everything except seats & rollcage & I guarantee I can go at least as far & probably be pulling out any stock yota ever made."


and while i do think the flatfenders are cool, to compare a cj2a to an fj40(or even the fj25) is like night and day. the size and weight diifference of the two... your flatty would have a hard time just dragging a cruiser down the street. dragging a cruiser around the mt not likly.

i've had it parked nexted to a 50's(can't say for sure what yr exactly) jeep, and that had been the first time i a got a real close look at a cj2 and never would i want to take one in the mt. in stock form.