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holeshot19
09-18-2003, 04:57 AM
r they made in SC or are they made in japan, that will have a efect on the parts priceing.

Guy400
09-18-2003, 07:09 AM
I believe there are assembly plants in South Carolina and in Ohio.

muff
09-18-2003, 06:17 PM
yea dont they make the parts in other countries aka japan and then assemble them here?

09-18-2003, 10:21 PM
I Know the prototypes were first int he georgia plant..;)

dirtriderex
09-21-2003, 03:49 AM
that means honda is american made:D

holeshot19
09-21-2003, 07:09 PM
if american made the parts should be resonable i know when i have to buy any honda part that has 2 do with 250r awouch

honda350r
09-26-2003, 10:40 PM
If it were made in Japan it would be a much better quad!!! The TRX 250R was made in Japan and that is why they last so long !!!

Get a grip folks! If it says made in Japan,then it is almost always better than anything made in the "good ol U.S.A" !!!


Japan = very high quality!

dirtriderex
09-27-2003, 01:35 AM
:huh :rolleyes:

Guy400
09-27-2003, 07:01 AM
honda350r, that's an ignorant statement. While it may be true in some instances it's certainly not a rule-of-thumb. Technology for the TV, VCR and DVD player were invented in the U.S. They're produced offshore because of cheaper labor, not because of inherent higher quality.

Ever hear of Martin-Logan loudspeakers? They arguably make the best home theater speakers in the world ($77,000 for their top-of-the-line speaker) and are built in Lawerence, Kansas. How about Sunfire designed by Bob Carver? Built in Washington. What about our entire airline fleet? Boeing, built in the U.S. How about military hardware and technologies? Again, right here in the U.S. How about the handmade Cannondale quad frame? No doubt that it's stronger than any Japanese made stock frame. I can already guess your response--Acura, Lexus, Sony...

honda350r
09-27-2003, 08:30 AM
"They're produced offshore because of cheaper labor, not because of inherent higher quality."

I did not say offshore! I said Japan! Big difference!
.

"That's an ignorant statement." I don't think so , it is my very strong opinion!

It is my right to have my own opinion as it is yours..


Cannondale = Bankrupt!

Martin-Logan loudspeakers= 77,000.00 ? Please...

"Acura, Lexus, Sony.".. I own a Lexus and a Sony and damn glad I spent my hard earned American dollars on a superior product!

"TV, VCR and DVD player were invented in the U.S". The student almost always surpasses the teacher!! Accept it !!

Castor-426ex
09-27-2003, 10:21 AM
only the motorsports division is

Guy400
09-28-2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by honda350r
Cannondale = Bankrupt!Just because the motorsports division is out of business does not mean the quality was less.


Martin-Logan loudspeakers= 77,000.00 ? Please...Do you think I'm lying about the price? Go to www.martinlogan.com and look at the review of the Statement E2 speaker. They claim a price of over $70,000. Or, go here: http://www.phoenixcommcorp.com/pdf/April_2003.pdf Page 2, middle column--they state the price at $89,000 a pair.


"Acura, Lexus, Sony.".. I own a Lexus and a Sony and damn glad I spent my hard earned American dollars on a superior product!I never said these companies were inferior. I own a Sony CD player and am looking at a new IS300 for my wife (probably definitely now that we found out she's pregnant and the ZO6 we had our eye on won't work out).


"TV, VCR and DVD player were invented in the U.S". The student almost always surpasses the teacher!! Accept it !!**cough**MartinLogan**cough** More like the teacher sold the technology to the student. My point is that high quality products come from both countries. To make a blanket statement and infer that if it has a tag of "Made in Japan" it's automatically of higher quality is comical.

honda350r
09-28-2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by honda350r


Get a grip folks! If it says made in Japan,then it is almost always better than anything made in the USA [/B]

I guess you can't read ! Do you see ALMOST ALWAYS! I guess not !


If you are going to buy your wife a Lexus atleast go for a GS300 and if you are really cool you will get her a GS430 !


The IS 300 is too small !!

Guy400
09-29-2003, 04:23 AM
Nah, I like the smaller, sportier look of the IS.

Bunkerking217
10-02-2003, 10:15 PM
it all depends. 1/2 are made in japan, 1/2 are made in SC. all the 02 jet skis were made in japan. all after that were made in SC. not too sure about the quads

Woodsrider
10-03-2003, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Guy400
honda350r, that's an ignorant statement. While it may be true in some instances it's certainly not a rule-of-thumb. Technology for the TV, VCR and DVD player were invented in the U.S. They're produced offshore because of cheaper labor, not because of inherent higher quality.

Ever hear of Martin-Logan loudspeakers? They arguably make the best home theater speakers in the world ($77,000 for their top-of-the-line speaker) and are built in Lawerence, Kansas. How about Sunfire designed by Bob Carver? Built in Washington. What about our entire airline fleet? Boeing, built in the U.S. How about military hardware and technologies? Again, right here in the U.S. How about the handmade Cannondale quad frame? No doubt that it's stronger than any Japanese made stock frame. I can already guess your response--Acura, Lexus, Sony...


Boeing only does final assembly here in the U.S. any more :ermm: More than 70% of the parts are manufactured and sub-assembled in other countries, then shipped in to Washington for final assembly in Renton (737's, 757's) and Everett(wide bodies).

Acura RSX, RL, and NSX are the only three built in Japan. The TL, CL(discontinued), are built here on the accord line. The MDX is built in Canada.
The Lexus IS is built on the Camery line in USA:eek: (I think, check the VIN, if the first didgit is a 1 its US built)

The Japanese choose to build things here in the US for a very good reason, WORK ETHIC! Corprate Japan admires the work ethic displayed by the american worker. It is not the work force that is to blame for cheaply built american products, its corprate greed, (and Unions,[my opinion]). Toyota hires for life at the truck plants and the camery plant here in the US. They pay top dollar to keep the unions out of the shops, and it works. Toyota products are without a doubt, some of the finest on the market as are Honda.

There is a lot to know in todays global market place when you are looking to buy a product. Statements about things being better if there built in Japan, or crap because there built in USA are better left unsaid. Know the product, and more inportantly know why its made where it is. Look at Levi's...

honda350r
10-05-2003, 06:50 PM
[i]
The Lexus IS is built on the Camery line in USA:eek: (I think, check the VIN, if the first didgit is a 1 its US built)

[/B]


Wrong !! The IS is not a Camery but the ES is !!! The IS is built in Japan!!

KandK952
10-06-2003, 05:12 PM
I would have to agree... Japan is superior to us in many ways... HOWEVER, we are superior to them in some ways too. I am not going to waste my time by trying to think of certain ways they are and aren't superior to us... All I know is Acura RSX's are really really nice, especially the Type S model. Hopefully I will have mine soon.

TGW_400ex
10-07-2003, 04:30 AM
Were going to have to have a contest USA vs. JAPAN:D

NTPRacing#19
10-11-2003, 07:52 PM
cannondale frames may be the strongest frames made stock, BUT they are also the most rigid and most unforgiving frames.

sickyellow400ex
10-12-2003, 02:23 PM
whats wrong with chevy, good old american trucks and cars

NTPRacing#19
10-12-2003, 04:46 PM
chevy is the heartbeat of america, dont you guys know that?

flyin#5
10-12-2003, 05:37 PM
buy american made stuff. so what if it costs a bit more? atleast you know your helping out OUR economy. just think if you do this you will save more jobs than you can think of.

Waynes400ex
10-13-2003, 03:13 PM
American vs. Japan? It has already happened ww2. Also I can;t believe people giving such a broad statements about who is better!! All I know is if everyone keeps on buying Japanese over american we will al be speaking Japanese soon. Sia-Nara :D

bmw500hp
10-14-2003, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Guy400
Just because the motorsports division is out of business does not mean the quality was less.

Do you think I'm lying about the price? Go to www.martinlogan.com and look at the review of the Statement E2 speaker. They claim a price of over $70,000. Or, go here: http://www.phoenixcommcorp.com/pdf/April_2003.pdf Page 2, middle column--they state the price at $89,000 a pair.

I never said these companies were inferior. I own a Sony CD player and am looking at a new IS300 for my wife (probably definitely now that we found out she's pregnant and the ZO6 we had our eye on won't work out).

**cough**MartinLogan**cough** More like the teacher sold the technology to the student. My point is that high quality products come from both countries. To make a blanket statement and infer that if it has a tag of "Made in J
apan" it's automatically of higher quality is comical.

Tesla's guy, I just can't do electrostatics....right now listening to magnapans through tube pre's.

josh
10-14-2003, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by honda350r
If it were made in Japan it would be a much better quad!!! The TRX 250R was made in Japan and that is why they last so long !!!

Get a grip folks! If it says made in Japan,then it is almost always better than anything made in the "good ol U.S.A" !!!


Japan = very high quality!


may god save ur soul, sorry, i'm a fan of honda's atv and dirtbike and motorcycle line, but i can't stand most of their cars, ESPECIALLY CIVIC'S!!!! omg they get annoying, sorry if i offended anyone with a civic but seriously, i think they are WAAAAYYYYY over rated, kids buy em cuz they are cheap and there is so many fast and the furious wannabee's it's not even funny, ok i've said enough before i really start to insult rice burners, i like my friends prelude tho, i just can't stand those coffee can exhaust, especially the high pitch ones that ecco, and i hate that kids now adays think a freakin 16-17 sec quarter time is FAST cuz they spent all this money on their CRX or CIVIC, seriously, that's pathetic when u modd somethin and it runs a 17 sec 1/4, i saw a stock CRX do the 1/4 in 21 seconds, enough said, they were built for ECONOMY

coryatver
10-15-2003, 07:45 AM
yeah if ya wanna real fas car you need to get a cavalier or a escort. :huh

brokeitin3
10-15-2003, 08:31 AM
if some of you people were smart enough to figure out honda vin numbers, it will tell you where your quad was built, such as country, city, state, date assembled, color, and also if it was japan or usa.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

atvdude
10-15-2003, 08:40 AM
I work in a factory owned by a japanese company and have seen both style work ethics. they seem a little more dedicated to there work unlike many american workers. When i go to work i try to do my job to the best of my ability but i work next to mainy that really do not care. they work harder at getting out of work than working period.But then again it is a union shop so it protects all the slackers out there. i think that is the only bad thing about a union shop. The japanese try to do things as a team. In the states there are slackers and those who pick up the slack and get tired of it and just find new work. How can this type of work compete against the japanese? I am all for american products but the work ethic suck anymore. I want to support the good ole USA but when products are better and cheaper from elsewhere what do you do? When your spending around 7k for a quad you do not want it to have problems. that is why i have 2 250R's and 1 400ex and maybe a 450r but i wish put together by me. LOL I wish you had an option.Buy one put together or have it sent to you apart and you put it together yourself for less $$$$. well that is just my feelings.

86 4Trax
10-15-2003, 12:19 PM
At The end of WW2 the united state sent profesor Demming to aid in their reconstruction, by implamenting Statistical Process Control aka SPC into their manufacturing. The Japanese embraced the principles of this and have developed it to an art form at this point in time. It was not until the late 1980s that US manufacters realized that Japanese products were becoming superior products and began using SPC. In the US very few people have even heard of SPC let alone understand it. In Japan Demming is reverd in a nearly god like fasion. And I agree that there is probaly a stronger work ethic in japan and I feel as though SPC plays a big part in that.

honda350r
10-16-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by atvdude
I work in a factory owned by a japanese company and have seen both style work ethics. they seem a little more dedicated to there work unlike many american workers. When i go to work i try to do my job to the best of my ability but i work next to mainy that really do not care. they work harder at getting out of work than working period.But then again it is a union shop so it protects all the slackers out there. i think that is the only bad thing about a union shop. The japanese try to do things as a team. In the states there are slackers and those who pick up the slack and get tired of it and just find new work. How can this type of work compete against the japanese? I am all for american products but the work ethic suck anymore. I want to support the good ole USA but when products are better and cheaper from elsewhere what do you do? When your spending around 7k for a quad you do not want it to have problems. that is why i have 2 250R's and 1 400ex and maybe a 450r but i wish put together by me. LOL I wish you had an option.Buy one put together or have it sent to you apart and you put it together yourself for less $$$$. well that is just my feelings.

So true!!

josh
10-16-2003, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by coryatver
yeah if ya wanna real fas car you need to get a cavalier or a escort. :huh

i never said anything or had any opinion about a cavalier or escort, i have the same opinion on those, there's nothing wrong with any of the cars untill some kid "tricks/pimps" it out with a extremely cheap muffler from autozone that sounds like it farts and ecco's high pitch noises, i just can't stand that, i just don't see how a nearly stock civic is fast, MY opinion, it all leads down the road of THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS, most of the cars in that movie aren't as fast as they say they are, and they act like NOS is the only thing in the world you can go fast with, i do respect imports that are built as sports cars or are built to perform like one, i just don't like how people think cuz a car looks so fast it is, like when you put a body kit on a nearly stock dodge neon and a coffee can muffler, it's sad and it sounds terrible, the only good mufflers that are for imports cost so much dang money half the kids don't put the good sounding ones on, that's why i love the sound of a 5.0 mustang with dual flowmasters, doesn't get any better than the sound of muscle and a nice v8, can't really argue that stock for stock or mod for mod any v8 mustang/camaro will kill a civic or crx or neon/cavaleir, most preludes, most eclips's etc.

holeshot19
10-16-2003, 07:39 PM
i just wondered where the things are going to b made at . sc , ohio, japan???????????????????:mad:

Woody_YFZ
10-22-2003, 11:03 PM
I highly doubt that it matters where things are made. They use the same technology no matter where the product is made. Honda has a name to protect. Fords are built in Mexico and Canada, so what. To say Japanese products or American products are superior is stupid, it depends on what you are talking about. I don't understand why it would affect price either. Don't you think that the manufacturer is going to do whatever is cheapest and still keep the quality??

remlapr
10-22-2003, 11:48 PM
I really like to try to support the good ole USA, but when you get a inferior product it's tough. I bought a Dodge back in 99 and it is a POS, earlier this year it was time for a new ride for the wife and we bought an Acura and couldn't be happeir. Shame on the US auto manufacturers for not making a better product, because if all things were equal I am sure most people would gladly buy American, I know I would.

RSU
11-10-2003, 11:46 AM
I didn't read all of the posts on this thread because quite frankly I don't care how much speakers cost, who makes what (other than quads), who is richer than someone else and has the cocky attitude to talk about it. I thought we were talking about where quads are made. Hey freedom of speech is cool and all, but honestly how the hell did this all happen? It's funny!

trx440
11-11-2003, 12:15 AM
Here's why it matters where they are built.

Japan: AZ and SoCal get em first.

South Carolina: not AZ and SoCal.

I need a new sled for X-mas @ Glamis.

holeshot19
11-11-2003, 05:18 AM
okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

atl855
11-11-2003, 08:22 AM
a sister platn to ysk in chillicothe ohio locates in SC called ysc makes parts for it

lil'redrocket
11-19-2003, 09:08 PM
Some of the best products come from america. We are capable of anything they do or make overseas. Were just lazy and greedy in some areas.:(

sportraxrider10
11-25-2003, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by josh
i never said anything or had any opinion about a cavalier or escort, i have the same opinion on those, there's nothing wrong with any of the cars untill some kid "tricks/pimps" it out with a extremely cheap muffler from autozone that sounds like it farts and ecco's high pitch noises, i just can't stand that, i just don't see how a nearly stock civic is fast, MY opinion, it all leads down the road of THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS, most of the cars in that movie aren't as fast as they say they are, and they act like NOS is the only thing in the world you can go fast with, i do respect imports that are built as sports cars or are built to perform like one, i just don't like how people think cuz a car looks so fast it is, like when you put a body kit on a nearly stock dodge neon and a coffee can muffler, it's sad and it sounds terrible, the only good mufflers that are for imports cost so much dang money half the kids don't put the good sounding ones on, that's why i love the sound of a 5.0 mustang with dual flowmasters, doesn't get any better than the sound of muscle and a nice v8, can't really argue that stock for stock or mod for mod any v8 mustang/camaro will kill a civic or crx or neon/cavaleir, most preludes, most eclips's etc.


sounds like your jelious:eek2: :devil:

OhioRed
11-25-2003, 07:33 PM
definitely not assembled in ohio. they assemble cars and build the big bike motors here, no quads.