CRF450R reviews & top speed

[David]

I'm thinking about getting rid of the 400ex and getting a Honda CRF450R dirt bike. I'm going to be using it for the sand pits and trails. The only ****ty thing is that i'm only 5'4 or something like that, and it would be my first race dirt bike.

I was just wondering if anyone has one, and what do they think of it? Photo's and mods thats I should get would be cool.

[David]

Honda CRF450R with Clarke 3.3gal tank (http://www.off-road.com/dirtbike/projects/crf450/gallery/clarke/01DSC_0597.jpg)

Works Connection skid plate & engine guard (http://www.worksconnection.com/images/CRF450eg.jpg)

Cycra Probend Handguards (http://www.cycra.com/scstore/graphics/probendtp.jpg)

I would get a Clarke 3.3gal gas tank, natural color. Works Connection skid plate and engine guard. Cycra Probend hand guards. Anything else?

[remlapr]

I don't know a lot about bikes - but if you are only 5' 4" I don't think you would want something that big - they are really tall!

[David]

Well if I get a cr125 or a crf450 their both just a big, and only 25 pounds different. I really want a race bike so...

what about crf 250 there prob alot easier to handle

[David]

You do have a point. If I was going to race I would defently get a 250, but I'm still set on the 450.

just remember thats alot of bike and a 250f 4 stroke is easy to ride and just as fun but not as much power, if u think your ready for a 450 and stuff go for it, i hear nothing but good things about them, remeber u cant lug one of them like a 400ex , if its anything like a yfz or yz you need a lil more space to run them than a 400ex, if its a honda thumper your gonan love it

[Pro400EXC]

Hey Bro,to be on the safe side,start out on a 250 4stk....
Like a YZ-F250 or CRF 250R when it comes out....

The CRF450 would be a kinda big bike to start out on....Thats like jumpin from a 125 to a 500,so IMO just start out w/ a 250 thumper,and you'll be happier than anything...

[Adam202]

250 thumper would be pretty cool, however i would get a 450 or a 250 2 stroke for my 1st bike, just because ive ridden 250's and 125's and i would end up selling the 125 after prolly 6 months of riding. everyones different tho. im like 6 feet so its not to big for me. the power of a 250 2 stroke and the 450 is just awesome. you REALLY have to be careful on bikes.

[Pahrump]

I am the same as Adam on this I raced 125 bikes for a while but only because I had so much invested in my 125 and could not get out of it to buy a 250


And the 250 thumper is like a 125 2 smoke and the 450 is like a 250 so therefor I would buy the 450.

Hey it only goes as fast and you make it, that is what I told my parents when I was 18 and bought me a brand new CBR 900RR

Hey look at Carmichael he is a little fella, remember when he was riding the ProCiruit 125 he had to have a mikl ctare to stand on to get on the bike LOL.


But hey that's just me....

[Pahrump]

By the way I just recently sold a CRF 450 and it wa an AWESOME bike.


But if I was gonna do it again (and I did with the quad) I would probably buy the (shhhhh says very quietly) Yammi.

Originally posted by Pahrump
I am the same as Adam on this I raced 125 bikes for a while but only because I had so much invested in my 125 and could not get out of it to buy a 250


And the 250 thumper is like a 125 2 smoke and the 450 is like a 250 so therefor I would buy the 450.

Hey it only goes as fast and you make it, that is what I told my parents when I was 18 and bought me a brand new CBR 900RR

Hey look at Carmichael he is a little fella, remember when he was riding the ProCiruit 125 he had to have a mikl ctare to stand on to get on the bike LOL.


But hey that's just me....




thats not true 125 2 strokes are not like a 250 4 stroke, a 250 4 stroke is more similar to a 250 2 stroke than anything, there easier to ride, more power, you dont have to scream it all the time

i think a 250 4 stroke ud be more than happy

[Adam202]

well the 125 2 strokes and 250 4 strokes compete together, the 250 4 stroke would be smoked by a 250 2 stroke. 4 strokes and 2 strokes put power to the ground way different. if a 250 4 stroke rode like a 250 2 stroke they would be in the same class. i know what you mean by riding the piss out of the 125's but they are still pretty easy to ride.

[Pahrump]

Originally posted by freeride132
thats not true 125 2 strokes are not like a 250 4 stroke, a 250 4 stroke is more similar to a 250 2 stroke than anything, there easier to ride, more power, you dont have to scream it all the time

i think a 250 4 stroke ud be more than happy


I am sorry and dont want to be a D1ck but youare wrong.

If the 250 4 stroke and the 250 s strokes were the same then why do the 250F and the 125 s strokes race together and the 450F's and the 250 s strokes race together

General rule (Not a Given all the time) it take about 1 and 4/5's the cc's of a 4 stroke to equal the power of a 2 stroke

Example 250 2 Stroke = 450 4 stroke

450cc/250cc = 1.8 or 1 4/5

[Pahrump]

Whoops Adam you replied while I was typing that.

[Adam202]

i think hes moreless talking about how they power is delivered to the ground, but still its WAY different.

[kxrider]

my firend has a 04 cr450, ,and with stock sprocket it went like 93, and with 2 teeth added on front it runts 112mph:eek: , yes this is as acurate as it getts he has a GPS

[Diedrich]

i think if this is your first bike then u dont need the 450..cause if they are gonna run 100mph and you're not used to it..ur probably gonna get yourself hurt..so just start off smaller

[Pahrump]

I guess it depeds on how much money you have and how mature you are.

If you have lots of cash yeah get the 250 and then buy a 450 in a few months.

I am sure that none of you would tell someone to buy a 250ex first then buy a 400 would you?

I have seen many posts where folks say "just go ahead and get the 400 and you will grow into it and save yourself some cash in the end"

Also is you are immature and cannot resist the twist then no the 450 is probably not for you cause like I said before I had one and yes the above mentioned 100MPH is accurate, it will do it.

[ScooterX]

Don't think the 250 4-stroke won't have enough power. The ol' 400ex doesn't compare to the 250F's. They have about 8 more HP than the 400ex and weigh about 160 pounds less.

Think about it... you've never had a dirt bike before and you want to move up from a 26 HP, 375 lbs quad, to a 55 HP, 220 lbs bike?

It's your money, but be careful if you get the 450. At first it'll be a handful (and it doesn't matter what brand you get, they're all strong as hell). But once you get used to it, it'll be no problem and you'll have a lot of fun.

My suggestion... atleast try riding a 250F and a 450F before you buy anything.

It's not entirely crazy to get a 450 as your first bike though... lots of people do it, you just need to be a little cautious.

GOOD LUCK!

[ScooterX]

Oh and PLEASE don't ride on the roads. When you're on the roads, there is only about 1/2 a square inch of tire touching the road (and thats counting the front and back tire) and it may even be less than that. Do you really want to be going that fast w/ that little amount of tire touching the ground? HELLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO! When you have that little amount of ground contact, the bikes will get head shake so fast that you won't even have time to recover (even though you prolly couldn't recover anyways even if you did have enough time) and you'll prolly take a nasty spill. I've seen it happen, on that same bike too. This guy, Daniel, was 5th gear pinned (or 4th... can't remember if they have 4 or 5 gears) and got headshake and ended up flipping end over end on a black top road. It just happens so fast man. One second you see him FLYING down the road and then just out of nowhere, his bike is doing flips. Somehow he walked away from it, but he never did that again.

[Adam202]

yea at the dunes you see people wobbling back and forth so bad at high speeds, i would never wanna be doin that.

[kxrider]

Originally posted by ScooterX
Oh and PLEASE don't ride on the roads. When you're on the roads, there is only about 1/2 a square inch of tire touching the road (and thats counting the front and back tire) and it may even be less than that. Do you really want to be going that fast w/ that little amount of tire touching the ground? HELLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO! When you have that little amount of ground contact, the bikes will get head shake so fast that you won't even have time to recover (even though you prolly couldn't recover anyways even if you did have enough time) and you'll prolly take a nasty spill. I've seen it happen, on that same bike too. This guy, Daniel, was 5th gear pinned (or 4th... can't remember if they have 4 or 5 gears) and got headshake and ended up flipping end over end on a black top road. It just happens so fast man. One second you see him FLYING down the road and then just out of nowhere, his bike is doing flips. Somehow he walked away from it, but he never did that again.

dude i never thought about that only have a lil rubber on the ground, i used to go wide open aroud curves on my kx, til one day i met the mail man head on and i had to swerve into the ditch, almost waded pretty bad i quit now

[fiffer]

im getting a yz 125 on saturday and its basically the first bike i will have owned/ridden. im 5'5'' and i cant touch flat feet on it. it has some work done to it and it will do 70 easy. hope this helps

[Fast250EX]

I would get the 450 but don't use all the gears till ya work up the guts to try it. It's better to have power you don't usually use than not having enough power.;)

[David]

I will open it up all the way sometime. But i'm not like a bunch of people, that go a open it up before getting use to the bike and just riding passed their skills. I'm no pro, thats for sure. But i've never hert myself at except my wrist on a jump, I didn't break it. I don't baby my 400 though. I'm not worred about herting myself from having a ton of power, its mostly falling over in ruts and stuff.

Originally posted by Pahrump
I am sorry and dont want to be a D1ck but youare wrong.

If the 250 4 stroke and the 250 s strokes were the same then why do the 250F and the 125 s strokes race together and the 450F's and the 250 s strokes race together

General rule (Not a Given all the time) it take about 1 and 4/5's the cc's of a 4 stroke to equal the power of a 2 stroke

Example 250 2 Stroke = 450 4 stroke

450cc/250cc = 1.8 or 1 4/5



not to be a dick but your wrong, y es a 250 2 stroke obviously has more power, i guess you must not have much time on bikes, 125 2 stroke the fast way to ride it is by carrying alot of momentum, on a 250 u can go fast make mistakes and still carry the speed you need because of all the extra power , well a 250 4 stroke can be ridden more like that than a regular 125 class bike, plus 250fs have more power than the average 125, maybe not the ktm tho, pt is the power delivry on a 250f is very very similar to a 450f , the only true difference is the 450 has so much more power when it hits it pullls and pulls where on some long hills you might find the 250f lacks,125 and a 250 2 stroke are totally diff,a 125 u have to scream to get the power and its harder to keep on the pipe imo, thats not the case at all with a 250f


think of it this way, this isnt similar in performance of hp but you get the idea

300ex=250f
400ex=450f

the power delivery is almost identical except there is more power , catch my drift

[Pahrump]

Well I have spent quite a bit of time on bikes I raced motocross and in the PJ1 Superarenacross series in Texas and rode a ProCircuit Head/Pipe/Shocks CR 125 Bike for 3 years and have been riding bikes for 14 yrs total ahd have just recently switched to quads.



Bottom line on the power thing is that the 250F's race with the 125's and the 450F's race with the 250's so irregardless of how the power comes on someone higher up that me or you decided that the 250 and the 125 and the 250 and the 450 are equal.


So maybe we are both right a little, and me just a little more than you.

why u more than me, all your saying is a 250f runs the 125 class?
this kid is just looking to ride, the 250f is just as easy and fun to ride as the 450f its not like a 125 2 stroke, u may lack power but even david bailey said the 250fs are competitive enough to run the 250 class and win

[Pahrump]

Ok well I just would not want to spend the money twice.

But whatever floats your boat

why would u spend money twice?


hes going from 26 hp in 380 pound machine to 33 in a 208 pound machine, hes goin to do xc to trail riding style riding i cant see needing anything more than a 250f to be happy unless hes extremely power hungry

[Pahrump]

Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, no matter who wins you are still retarded!!!


Nuff Said...

Originally posted by Pahrump
Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, no matter who wins you are still retarded!!!


Nuff Said...


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[Pro400EXC]

I am w/ FreeRide on this one....

My bro has a yz250 and a yz250f....

I rode them both,he also has a yz125....

Well the 125 was harder to ride do to keeping it on the pipe....And you constantly need to ring its guts out to get power.....

Then I rode the Duce and a Half 2smk...Well it was so mush better to ride do to the fact,all i did was twist and go,not ringin the guts out or anything....

Now w/ the 250F it didn't have as much power as the 2502stk,but it has the same easy to use power when you need it type engine as the 250stk (i don't wanna hear anything about 125's run w/ 250F and blah blah)

FreeRide is sayin that the 250F powerplant's charachteristics are the same as a 250 2stk...

Plus its a 250F,so I am sure if he's power crazy,he can gett he 275 bore kit,porting and so on....

Also I don't care if you've been racing dirtbikes since in your moms stomach,that doesn't make anyone a rocket scientist,it just says you can ride....Look at the top pro's,alot of them don't know spit about a dirtbike....

[rossano]

My first 5 years ridin' were on streetbikes. When I got into dirt biking, I went out and bought a hooked-up 1991 CR250. What a mistake. I didn't know what to do with it. I was wiping out all over the place. Well, I sold it and picked up a 1991 KX 125, and that's when I learned to ride. After a year on that bike, it was a lot easier to learn throttle-control skills and "body english". The bike can be thrown around like a mountain bike. I've ridden 250's after that, and they were a lot easier to ride. I never bought a bigger bike after that----------that's 'cause I'm on a 400ex now. FOUR WHEELERS RULE
HELL YA

[ScooterX]

The 250 2-strokes have low end power unlike the 125's. Yes the 250's have snappier more powerful powerband, but you don't have to shift and use the clutch on the 250's as much as the 125's. Thats how the 250 is similar to the 250F. Obviously they don't have the same kind of power, nobody in their right mind would think so, but they are both easier to ride than a 125 2 smoke.

Either way, any bike should be a good choice. They are SOOO much fun to ride.

And whoever said, "Would you tell someone to move up from a 250ex to a 400ex?" I would have to say, YES! I would recommend the 400ex as a good first time quad. Those things don't have enough power or speed to be considered a quad for highly experienced riders. You can hurt yourself just as much on a 250ex as you can on a 400ex. Likewise, you can hurt yourself just as much on a 250F as you can on a 450F.