official trx450r party right here!!!

[Pappy]

http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r1.jpg

[Dan_Guetter]

not seeing the party so much

Enough 450R threads.... I'm lockin this one down tooo....:blah:




LMFAO......:D

[Ryan]

.Not another Honda thread :rolleyes: .


;) :D .

Im gonna do whatever it takes to buy one of these sucka's :tired: :muscle:

[Pappy]

http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r2.jpg

[Pappy]

http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r1.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r2.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r3.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r5.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r6.jpg

[Woodsrider]

Absoluty the UGLIEST fuggin quad on the market! But as long as the back end looks good I guess thats all that matters, Cuz thats all there gonna see;)

[KASCHAK]

include me in the party!!! i want one sooooooo bad. its not even funny. this 400ex is junk compared to tha.. well compared to everthing pretty much now a days..

[kamikaze_rzrbak]

IM WATCHING THE VIDEO RIGHT NOW!!!!! the time has finally come

[infantry317]

Keep em coming Pappy! :D

[honda250xrider]

anyone know the stats on it yet?

[bansheeguy77]

looks alot better than i thought....not sure if u guys seen the video or not so i will post a link anyway....

http://reflectweb.reflectsystems.com/templateFactory.aspx?Template=Honda1/Honda1_Launched.htm&WCID=e2a88431-9cdc-4b27-bab0-926e2144dd89&Name=Honda%20Test&BaseRoot=66.150.223.203&Customer=honda

[holeshot19]

how much?????????????????????????????????????????????? ??

[Adam202]

i think it looks awesome............

[Guy400]

All we know at this point is an additional piston ring was added, additional bearings to the bottom end, larger wrist pin, dual bearings on sprocket side of carrier, LED tail light and a hot start button. Someone else please add more because I know I've forgotten some stuff.

[KASCHAK]

look at how many people are in the open forum!!! were hopping tonight :macho

[sweet300ex]

Keep em comin!! Lets see what bluetraxx says know(had to do it)

[markeg192]

Well all the other quads just got dirt cheap.

[hessianmx111]

hmmm i might be able to get a 400ex cheap after all.:devil:

[busch light]

well I watched it ...................I got wood


anybody want to buy some yamahas:D

[BigAl]

pm me for a cheap 400ex. LOL!!!

no seriously mine just went up for sale.

[2qk4u]

dang is that really it you think?

We just got word that the fire trucks are in route to the webhosting center....:eek: The server is overloaded with all the activity from the site and smokin...:eek2:


Before we go I'd like to thank all the little people and everyone else for coming out to the party tonight...have a good evening....:eek2: :huh :eek2:

[wyndzer]

Shock rezzies tucked out of harms way:eek2:

[Pappy]

yall aint gotta go home...but ya gotta get the hell outta here:devil:

[wyndzer]

pipe, camshaft and carb kit for 299 retail WOW

[KASCHAK]

hey maybe the parts prices will come down too.. i need some stuff. and i dont have 500 for an exhaust maybe now they will only be like 200 for a full.. ohh ya.. now i can make my 400 go fastter

[Punk'd]

now the new ? is was better yz450 or the new honda lol o boy here we go bluetraxx v.s exriders ya!!!:blah:

[cdalejef]

Someone get me another beer!

$4785.46 + tax

:eek2:

[Dan_Guetter]

i got beer over here for 5 dollars, all our special members, i got root beer on tap

Anyone know how much this beast is???? I still think that i'll keep my 400ex. I wonder if 400 plastic will fit on one of those cuz they need a makeover bad but everyone thought the c-dales were ugly when they first came out. :rolleyes:

[Ex_Rider43]

299$$ you cant beat that price!!! what the price on these 450s???

where are those shock rezzies???

[wyndzer]

Originally posted by Rico
$4785.46 + tax

:eek2:

If it is, then I'll buy two. And let you ride one.

[KASCHAK]

Originally posted by ex_rider52
299$$ you cant beat that price!!! what the price on these 450s???

where are those shock rezzies???

there tucked away behind the shock instead of being on the side. there behind it!! what quality! honda really knows there chit!

Originally posted by wyndzer
If it is, then I'll buy two. And let you ride one.

don't even think your gonna call me your ***** if i do ride the other one...http://ricoracing.netfirms.com/Smilies/gorgeous%20chic.gif

[.:01_eXrIdEr:.]

can you buy me one too???
im kinda low on the funds. :(

[Ex_Rider43]

Rico yo must be joking!!!! at 4785.46 ill sell my 400 in pieces instead of building a crf!!

[lilpoppy]

Whats the deal with the frame? Does anyone know what it is made out of yet?

[VIC]

It would look good with a 250R hood on it. I wonder when will get specs?

Originally posted by lilpoppy
Whats the deal with the frame? Does anyone know what it is made out of yet?


solid rubber

[KASCHAK]

hey i wonder if they wheelie good like the 400?

oh and the server is starting to act up again. i got that message where its unavalible. and then the 30 seconds on

[sickmojave]

Originally posted by lilpoppy
Whats the deal with the frame? Does anyone know what it is made out of yet?

steel:confused2

[forum]

looks a h3ll of alot better then i thought!!! kick start!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! oo wow. i may be buyin one afterall!... and if its in the price range of an 400ex then i will forsure!

[KASCHAK]

Originally posted by Rico
solid rubber

no really what is it made out of? woulnt rubber be kinda heavy

[sickmojave]

Originally posted by KASCHAK

oh and the server is starting to act up again. i got that message where its unavalible. and then the 30 seconds on

I'm on broadband and it's getting real slow on this site.:( :ermm:

[OCMANJOE]

Watch the bluetraxx posts we will be ready for battle once again. As for the quad ive seen too many Photoshop® pictures and this looks like another one and I'll believe it when i get to see it on honda website but, untill then ill remain skeptical if that is it.

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by forum
and if its in the price range of an 400ex then i will forsure! I think your dreaming!

[ILGNCC400EX]

With all the new quads coming out i bet the after market are singing Happy days are here again!!!

[Pappy]

Originally posted by OCMANJOE
Watch the bluetraxx posts we will be ready for battle once again. As for the quad ive seen too many Photoshop® pictures and this looks like another one and I'll believe it when i get to see it on honda website but, untill then ill remain skeptical if that is it.


hahahahaha....where do you think these pics came from...lmfao

[user101]

Originally posted by forum
and if its in the price range of an 400ex then i will forsure!



i wish

[KASCHAK]

Originally posted by OCMANJOE
Watch the bluetraxx posts we will be ready for battle once again. As for the quad ive seen too many Photoshop® pictures and this looks like another one and I'll believe it when i get to see it on honda website but, untill then ill remain skeptical if that is it.

dude watch the video this is no scandle!! its real bro!!!!


http://reflectweb.reflectsystems.com/templateFactory.aspx?Template=Honda1/Honda1_Launched.htm&WCID=e2a88431-9cdc-4b27-bab0-926e2144dd89&Name=Honda%20Test&BaseRoot=66.150.223.203&Customer=honda

[XC250R]

Originally posted by Pappy
hahahahaha....where do you think these pics came from...lmfao

Really watch the webcast.

[Pvt. Maggot]

looks like modded 400 frame with an aluminum sub frame. :confused:
i like how it looks...the front plastic isn't too bad throw a 400 or 250r hood on it and there ya go...i want one :confused2

[noreaster79]

Anybody have any idea on the date available.

Originally posted by OCMANJOE
Watch the bluetraxx posts we will be ready for battle once again. As for the quad ive seen too many Photoshop® pictures and this looks like another one and I'll believe it when i get to see it on honda website but, untill then ill remain skeptical if that is it.

There's a friggen video of it with 2 guys walkin around it and puttin their feet on the foot pegs.....:confused2

Remember to pass after takin a pull......http://ricoracing.netfirms.com/Smilies/bong.gif

[Punk'd]

Originally posted by Rico
$4785.46 + tax

:eek2:

dude theres no way honda and i mean HONDA is gonna sell that for 4785:huh

[KASCHAK]

were would you like them to put there feet?

[Dan_Guetter]

I wanna pull

and besides, who is capable enough to photoshop something to look real??:macho

[Ironballs]

Originally posted by Rico
There's a friggen video of it with 2 guys walkin around it and puttin their feet on the foot pegs.....:confused2

Remember to pass after takin a pull......http://ricoracing.netfirms.com/Smilies/bong.gif


The video is homemade. Don't belive it!




HAHAHA!!!

[Pappy]

http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r14.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r13.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r12.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r11.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r10.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r9.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r8.jpg

Originally posted by punk'd
dude theres no way honda and i mean HONDA is gonna sell that for 4785:huh


Way...














they're talkin about throwin in a free pair of reeds with it for the first 500 buyers....:eek:

[coryatver]

I hear they also come with the stage 2 powerband:eek:

[Ralph]

kenny how u get all those pics;) :blah: :muscle:

[VIC]

The more I look at it the more I like it, got used to the front lights already...

[XC250R]

The only part I don't like is the air scoops being part of the plastic.

[Martin Blair]

more more more, lol

[foxracin15]

looks like bluetraxx already dissing it

http://www.bluetraxx.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=29227

:rolleyes:

[Tommy 17]

wow i want one so bad lmfao....


i don't even care that its kick start...

[Dan_Guetter]

i think thats cool

the more and more i see it the more i like it

and who thought that sketch of the trx accaully looked like that

hehehee

[js52589]

1700+ online a few minutes ago :eek2: looks awesome :D

[mx400]

i want one. nah i think ill keep my 400 but i wouldnt mind one in my garage. also on the price my local dealer said he was told around the 8K range. i am gona go to my local dealer every day after school and see if they have one. i wana test ride one of these bishes

[XC250R]

Yeah someone posted," I'm glad Yamaha spends a little more coin in the styling department."

Too bad they don't on anything else.

[KASCHAK]

Originally posted by js52589
1700+ online a few minutes ago :eek2: looks awesome :D

there all fromt bluetraxx there seeing what we know and they dont. so they can go back to ther little gay site and talk chit

[Pappy]

lets not bash anyone. bluetraxx is more the welcome to visit the site.

[1smokin400ex]

Hey check this out , not sure if anyone has scene this pic http://www.blackcode.org/DJTiesto/450r.jpg this thing is sweet ....

[Mxbubs]

Well, I hate to say it, Im sure Ill take flack for it, but it looks like another Japenese engineered contraption as for as the quality and race-ability. The motor is awesome, but it looks like the same old flimsy, thin walled aluminum swingarm, and weak frame and a-arms. No body has come close to Cannondale IMO. I wish these little Jap. engineers knew anything about American racing, and would realize we weigh more than 100lbs like most of them.

There, let the flack begin.:D

[Luecker]

$300 for a cam, jet kit and spark arrestor is pretty spendy.

I am going to guess a price of $7299. Just for the fact that people will pay more for it than the Yamaha because it says HONDA on the side of it.

I will wait until my Z is payed off and the demand is down before I even think about buying one. I would take this over the YFZ though.

[jgfarmsracer]

that's an alum. subframe and a steel frame




Originally posted by sickmojave




steel:confused2

[Z400central]

The looks are, different......I dont know, im glad honda finally has something out, but im not so sure of this bike. The engine is awesome, but is it detuned? For some reason, the bike is missing something, it looks like its just pieced together and is missing stuff, cant point it out yet. Im sure it will be good, only time will tell! And as for bashing the YFZ, z400, etc etc. it doesnt matter what you ride, as long as you ride!:macho

[Sportrax10]

How does the "Hot start" system work?

[Z400central]

when the bike is hot you press the button so it'll start easier.

[quadfamily]

where's the reverse and the electric start??

[nofearhonda]

Originally posted by 1smokin400ex
Hey check this out , not sure if anyone has scene this pic http://www.blackcode.org/DJTiesto/450r.jpg this thing is sweet ....



this one has ELKA shocks on it??????????

[KASCHAK]

i dont care what its like. i still want one!!

in that pic its all hopped up already wit elkas an ac bumper different bar clamp high rise bars nerfs

[XC250R]

Originally posted by quadfamily
where's the reverse and the electric start??

LOL

[bigbadbrad]

does not look to bad, with the bumber, and nerfs and stuff on it, imo
hopefully that will be the next quad i own, and buy the time i can aford a new qyad, the aftermarket will allready of had their hands on it so i will beable to trick it out no-problem. If i was yami i would have put i a kick start on the yfz if it was really for racing, u know to save weight. well looks like honda has not let us down again.

[jgfarmsracer]

pro's kick / wussies push button's

[TheWolf]

what it's missing is a nose piece. plastic just stops at the lights.!

[FASTeR]

hahaha gncc racers lookout kickstart is here! while your kicking the yammies will already have a 20 second lead!

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by Rico
Way...













they're talkin about throwin in a free pair of reeds with it for the first 500 buyers....:eek:

lmao

[KASCHAK]

i hope that the shocks are better then the yfz. ive heard they suck

[Martin Blair]

Originally posted by Z400central
The looks are, different......I dont know, im glad honda finally has something out, but im not so sure of this bike. The engine is awesome, but is it detuned? For some reason, the bike is missing something, it looks like its just pieced together and is missing stuff, cant point it out yet. Im sure it will be good, only time will tell! And as for bashing the YFZ, z400, etc etc. it doesnt matter what you ride, as long as you ride!:macho

THATS WHAT I FIRST THOGUHT IT LOOKS PIECED TOGETHER FROM SPARE PARTS THEY HAD LAYING ARROUND, I KNOW HONDA AND THE BIKE WILL BE GOOD IF ITS LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT

sorry for the caps im to lazy to change it

[400exUtah]

Why doesn't the OFFICIAL Honda website have information on the new TRX450r?? Pretty frustrating not to see the "official" specs and informtation:(

[Punk'd]

anyone got n e good feelings about this quad?

[Dan_Guetter]

thats pretty crazy elka and others have aftermarket parts made for the 450, i wonder if its based around the 400ex??????

maybe the same patterns??

[RideRed400StYlE]

Originally posted by 400exUtah
Why doesn't the OFFICIAL Honda website have information on the new TRX450r?? Pretty frustrating not to see the "official" specs and informtation:(

Because they wont update that till like midnight. to keep everyone else besides the members in the dark :eek:

[Alex654]

Anyone have an clue to when this will be on the showroom floors?

[Sportrax10]

Originally posted by punk'd
anyone got n e good feelings about this quad?
I like it.:blah:

[KASCHAK]

Originally posted by HN400exracer
THATS WHAT I FIRST THOGUHT IT LOOKS PIECED TOGETHER FROM SPARE PARTS THEY HAD LAYING ARROUND, I KNOW HONDA AND THE BIKE WILL BE GOOD IF ITS LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT

sorry for the caps im to lazy to change it

are you on crack?? piced together i dont think so

[sparky450AR]

i cant wait too get one....about 1000 quads just went up for sale...good luck everyone...lol...cant wait till midnight....i hope its really at 335lbs,,,,thats what im looking forward too....it would be like flyin a feather....and she sure is beautiful

[TORO1968]

Originally posted by TheWolf
what it's missing is a nose piece. plastic just stops at the lights.!

That's exactly what I was thinking... Let's hope this thing performs like a YFZ450 spankin' Honda should!!!

Sure is fugly... :eek2:

[Quad18star]

Ok so will this be 12 PM ( Midnight ) Pacific time that they release the info to the public??? Cuz if so I'll just have to check it out tomorrow. Looks like an interesting bike but nothing I'd stay up till 3 am to find out the specs about .

[FASTeR]

yea i'm sure those shocks will be 100 times better, how would you adjust them, cut out the radiator shrouds? lets see whats it got to offer over the yfz so far... led taillight, stainless exhuast, uhmm kickstarter (wheres the electric option?) non adjustable shocks, hmmmmmm common help me out here guys, i know its got a wing but so does a rincon.

[Pahrump]

Originally posted by Alex654
Anyone have an clue to when this will be on the showroom floors?


I was told in December around XMAS....


















But I donno...

[jgfarmsracer]

loks like a 400 swingarm,alum. spindles and 250r brake calipers




Originally posted by Shift_DVS
thats pretty crazy elka and others have aftermarket parts made for the 450, i wonder if its based around the 400ex??????

maybe the same patterns??

SAD DAY!!!:mad:

This is suppose to replace the LEGEND?! hahahaha man and to think that I was thinking of selling my R for this... There is only one R and let me say that I would rather pick up a Predator any day over that thing.... dammm when the yami came out I was like DAMMMM :eek: seeing this wanna be "R" was like :grr:

Im done!!! by the look of it the only good thing on this is the Engine... ... oh and the plastic.. I like the unfinished looking front plastic... but like someone one else already said... A REAL 250R hood and this thing will look nice as far as cosmetics...

Oh and kick start is for the big boys... true that...

[cudaman]

I like the looks of it. i am probably still going to buy a 250r but i wouldnt mind havin one. (getting the 250r cause they gonna be CHEAP!!) lol

[FASTeR]

hahah, kickstart is for a 2 stroke, to hell with a forward kick quad when your in buddy moto or 2hr long gncc race.. you'll want the big boy standing on the side of the trail to walk his big ***** over to kick start your hot quad.

Originally posted by cudaman
i am probably still going to buy a 250r but i wouldnt mind havin one. (getting the 250r cause they gonna be CHEAP!!) lol

this is only going to make the REAL "R"'s value go up due to what everybody has been waiting for to get this... trust me there is 4 buddies here with me and I was telling them to wait for this thing and 3 of them made a deposit on then to be on the waiting list.. well all 3 of them have backed down already..... like I said this is a SAD DAY!!! what a let down.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by 250r_W_huevos
this is only going to make the REAL "R"'s value go up due to what everybody has been waiting for to get this... trust me there is 4 buddies here with me and I was telling them to wait for this thing and 3 of them made a deposit on then to be on the waiting list.. well all 3 of them have backed down already..... like I said this is a SAD DAY!!! what a let down.

so....back up your thought...why does this new 450R suck?

[440exnacsracer]

im with many of you....something seems missing. i mean great, its prolly 50lbs lighter than my pred and great its got a BA motor, but it looks like they got the 400 a-arms and prolly same front design because i saw a pic with an ac bumper on one and it was prolly made for the 400. i dont know

[Pahrump]

Originally posted by cudaman
I like the looks of it. i am probably still going to buy a 250r but i wouldnt mind havin one. (getting the 250r cause they gonna be CHEAP!!) lol

Dang its got a "hot start" lever.. What else do ya want LOL
J/K



Yeah I think kick only sucks I think that yammys idea of kick option is great.

[sparky450AR]

i think everyone is kinda guessin about teh midnight thing....its just something honda has done in teh past...but i dont think they have stated that it owuld happen anywhere...ill be up though...but i am gonna go get an hour of sleep or so...see ya soon

[FASTeR]

I'll answer that like i already did, if you read some above posts, add to the fact its a honda and that adds $$$ to the price already, and parts. And knowing even honda is worried about its reliability, i'm sure the added heat and stress does wonders for an engine that loves to eat piston rings *** is. who needs em anyway, you'll have the 3rd ring to scrape up that excess oil anyway.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by FASTeR
I'll answer that like i already did, if you read some above posts, add to the fact its a honda and that adds $$$ to the price already, and parts. And knowing even honda is worried about its reliability, i'm sure the added heat and stress does wonders for an engine that loves to eat piston rings *** is. who needs em anyway, you'll have the 3rd ring to scrape up that excess oil anyway.


you just said the motor was the only good thing...and now it sucks too?

[Jnine]

I wouldn't be too excited about racing against any YFZ just yet. That Yamaha is REALLY good, and I'll tell you this; I've seen this new Honda for over a month, and I know two of the test riders BOUGHT YFZs. This will probably be a good motor, although it is detuned, but it is a 400EX with Preying Mantis plastic. It will be a good quad, but it hardly makes the 400EX "junk" as suggested in an earlier post. BTW, the cost will be very close to the Yamaha, and probably a little more. It has a long way to go before dethroning the 250R however. The 400EX was hyped to do that also, and we all know that hasn't quite happened. I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade, but just to add a dose of reality.

[FASTeR]

where did i say it had a good motor? hmmm thats odd, pay more money for a lower tech. engine that makes less power. ha i think not.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by sparky450AR
you just said the motor was the only good thing...and now it sucks too?


lol my bad man...i got you mixed up with some other guy

[seth400]

not bad, not bad at all, but i think im gonna hang on to my R, sorry honda, aint sellin mine for that thing. though it does look pretty sweet

[Dan_Guetter]

theres nothing really special about this quad........get em next time honda:(

[OCMANJOE]

its true the electric is needed in any gncc event. I mean not everyone is a bill balance. By they way you can get a kick starter for the yfz atleast yamaha made it an option. I like the honda and i would have both if i could.

[honda350r]

FFFF'NNNN Honda !! Pull you head out! The YFZ will smoke that glorified 400 EX !! At least the 400 EX has an electric starter!

I think Honda could have brought this new 400EX in to the 21st century,but they didn't! Thumbs Down on the big headed Company!

Now I have to buy the Yamaha and spend big coin on shocks to make it rideable!!!


Eat shat Honda !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dan_Guetter]

i know how you feel man.......its an ex with an engine and plastic......as bud rubb would say wwwoooooo woooooooooo

[50kid]

Badass Badass. Gotta get me one of those I guess I have made up my mind for a quad.Love the kick start.Is that Standard???

[jgfarmsracer]

Originally posted by 50kid
Badass Badass. Gotta get me one of those I guess I have made up my mind for a quad.Love the kick start.Is that Standard???

looks like that's the only way to get her


kick the hell otta her


the bike starts good with kick so i hope this motor does too

[seth400]

just bring back the R's. (250R's) and start bustin *** honda, pretty sad when your company makes crappier quads now than they did 18 years ago, with all this new technology, just bring back the the daddy of all and tell the EPA to cram it up their ***. makes no sense to me, things are suposed to get better with time, not worse. who needs 4 strokes anyways, if ya stroke it more than twice, your playin with it, if ya ask me, thats just my 2 cents worth.

[bkbatv]

as long as honda keep the price around 5 grand they will sell like hot cakes every body just pitchs the stock parts and upgrades to aftermaket parts anyways why waste that extra 2 grand on a yfz take that money and buy some a-arms and a axle . race ready trx 450 8000 grand race ready yfz 450 10000 grand at least

[Johnny & Monica]

Everyone be quiet I`m stroking an it`s more than 4 times an an I dont think three ring`s are going to hold it back.

[aroracer72]

okay, have no fear, the info man is here!!!!:macho k
1) its a 250r chassis with crf motor beefed up and tweaked to perform excellently in a quad.
2) they use the kick start cause they know the majority of buyers will be racers, and wont mind the electric start missing
3) in GNCC, you cant run a electric start in the pro class, soo this will be the one of the few 4 strokes in the pro class!!!!
4) honda has tested the starting the most, and it will be easy to start
5) the motor is alot more worked over, than the yzf motor was, new cases, and piston, rings, bigger piston wrist pin, and all the other quad cnversion essentials
6) the shocks were one of the last things to be made, cause of the yfz's outstanding suspension, but these shocks are better, trust me
7) im not shure on this, but i bilieve with slight cutting 250r or 400ex plastics will fit
8) this as far from a 400ex as you can get, i bilieve the arms and swing arm are similar design, but beefier, and more well built
9) it is 335 pounds, and with the lights, tail light, plastic bar pad mount, and heel gaurds off, it comes in at 325!!!
10) they have created something that RACERS have been doin for lots of $$$$$$, they provide a 250r, with acrf motor already in it, for a cheaper price than a project quad costs.
11) the front tires are new design, and rims are same as 400ex.
12)if you raced a yfz with this, on any terrain, this will prevail, unless its a GOOD LOOKING contest:blah:

and sorry, right ow i have no in depth details, like price, availability, etc. but i will find out for you guys!!!!!!:cool:

[markeg192]

Originally posted by mikeracerx34
Everyone be quiet I`m stroking an it`s more than 4 times an an I dont think three ring`s are going to hold it back.

You're always strokin it

[Johnny & Monica]

Get back to the rest area your still on call ho.YOU NEED TO HELP PAY FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

[suzukiz400rider]

sorry there guy, why the hell should you have to get an 87 r's plastic to make it look o.k its not a r. honda f'd up big time, yamaha killed them

[aroracer72]

ohh, but i do know that the price isnt 5000-, lol, keep dreaming, but i bilieve it is like mid to high 6's. And did you know that cannondale weights is 375, with 1.8 gallons of gas, coolant , and oil!!!!....it is as light as a yfz!!!..im keeping my dale, heres a pic, but the honda is sweet, and my dale will finally have competition!!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid77/p297e3b2e32877087cc72c8c24c010ec2/fb2f89da.jpg

[VIC]

So is it a 439 or 450cc?

[popo]

Congrats to you Honda fans. Finally they came out with something new other than a motorcycle or a Rincon...

[aroracer72]

the only thing yamaha has on this, is there plastic!!!!....throw on some 200 dollars 250r plastics, not even that, a hood for 100, and youll have the best, im knowledgable, you arnt, sorry !!!!!:scary:

[markeg192]

Mike you can pay for one with all the money you make performing stunts in gay XXX films.

[Dan_Guetter]

Originally posted by aroracer72
okay, have no fear, the info man is here!!!!:macho k
1) its a 250r chassis with crf motor beefed up and tweaked to perform excellently in a quad.
2) they use the kick start cause they know the majority of buyers will be racers, and wont mind the electric start missing
3) in GNCC, you cant run a electric start in the pro class, soo this will be the one of the few 4 strokes in the pro class!!!!
4) honda has tested the starting the most, and it will be easy to start
5) the motor is alot more worked over, than the yzf motor was, new cases, and piston, rings, bigger piston wrist pin, and all the other quad cnversion essentials
6) the shocks were one of the last things to be made, cause of the yfz's outstanding suspension, but these shocks are better, trust me
7) im not shure on this, but i bilieve with slight cutting 250r or 400ex plastics will fit
8) this as far from a 400ex as you can get, i bilieve the arms and swing arm are similar design, but beefier, and more well built
9) it is 335 pounds, and with the lights, tail light, plastic bar pad mount, and heel gaurds off, it comes in at 325!!!
10) they have created something that RACERS have been doin for lots of $$$$$$, they provide a 250r, with acrf motor already in it, for a cheaper price than a project quad costs.
11) the front tires are new design, and rims are same as 400ex.
12)if you raced a yfz with this, on any terrain, this will prevail, unless its a GOOD LOOKING contest:blah:

and sorry, right ow i have no in depth details, like price, availability, etc. but i will find out for you guys!!!!!!:cool:

i hope your right!!! thats tight!

[450bret350]

not trying to start anything, but aroracer who are you and how do you get this so-called information, personaly i am tired of all the BS with nothing to back it up, if your rigth thats great but where are you getting this, i hope you have also matured from recent events at BT

[Dan_Guetter]

oooooooohhhh

someones calling you out!!!

[cgmxer115]

I hope it doesnt come in some other color also ...like yelow...the CRs dont come in yellow.

[aroracer72]

yeah, i havnt matured from BT, cause i was already mature!!!!!!....and dont doubt my info, cause every 1 doubted my info on the releasedate, and i hate that!!!!...i know this info from a protected source, and as for BT, i hate that place, full of inmature people calling me IMMATURE, F*** BT!!!!!!!!

[aroracer72]

sorry for my rude remarks towards BT, i apologize, every 1 there mistook what i was saying, and got all AsShOlIsH on me!!!....the truth, ive found that yamaha fans, are the rudest and inconsiderate owners ive meet!!!...i dont know why, not all yammy owners are that way, but the majority are!!......BT is just discriminating, and im shure there just bullsh****** about the new honda quad right now, cause thats the way they act!!!...i like the yfz, but i bilieve honda is better in the quality section, not always the flashiest, but the most quality and craftsmanship.

[450bret350]

yeah who cares about BT stuff anyway just giving you a hard time. i am also just trying to decipher through the BS, sorry that idon't know who you are i just want to know how reliable your source thats all because we all know that everyone on hear seems to somehow know mr honda himself:p calm down don't get so worked up when people question u, we don't know you, remember that before you get all defensive

[aroracer72]

im only saying 1 thing about the source, they were right about the release date, the shocks, the chassis, and motor, and told me the drawing was accurate, i find them VERY reliably, matter of fact, NEVER have recieved a faulty fact from them, and am not imagining that will change for this new quad.

[cinigen9]

I thought balanced raced a z400 in the pro class at taylortown??



3) in GNCC, you cant run a electric start in the pro class, soo this will be the one of the few 4 strokes in the pro class!!!!

[03GNCC270]

Originally posted by aroracer72

3) in GNCC, you cant run a electric start in the pro class, soo this will be the one of the few 4 strokes in the pro class!!!!



gncc has no restrictions on the way you start your bike it can be electric or kick.

took this from the gncc site
MACHINE ELIGIBILITY AND CLASSIFICATION:

1. Pro Production (ATV) - OEM motor and matching frame combination 4 stroke model. Engine modifications, frame reinforcements and frame modifications to permit longer rear-wheel travel are permitted.

[markeg192]

Originally posted by cinigen9
I thought balanced raced a z400 in the pro class at taylortown??


Speaking of racing, Are you racing this weekend?

[aroracer72]

kk, i dont follow GNCC rules that much, and was only going on what little knowledge of the GNCC i knew, but the rest is accurate, but i bilieve the kick start is wize, and electric starting is faster, unless one wire shorts, than your STUCK, i bilieve honda has done it again.

[450bret350]

honda site is down for maintenance

why got to bluetraxx when u can go to yfzcentral, the bt admin lives in parents basement

[cgmxer115]

i think honda is updating the page right now, i cant get on it

[cgmxer115]

guess everbody is glued to the honda site now?

[suzukiz400rider]

yeah, whats up, they are always late with everything they do.

[aroracer72]

there not late, theyre probably going by chinese time;) ....lol...noo, they are not late, they provided video, and pics, and leaked a little info, to get you all talking and spreading the word, and now they are adding the 450 to there site, and adding specs and stuff, its smart what they are doing, keeping you on your toes, unlike yamaha, they just threw it out at the public, and that worked, but what honda is doing is smart, and safe, and ohh, by the way, im heading out to Silver Lake Sand Dunes this weekend, any 1 care to join me??...ill be riding a cannondale cannibal with hypers, moto plastic, awww hell, it will prolly be the only dale there!!!...only 6000 of these dales out there, and i have one:devil:

[jamiesel]

What with the flaming of bt and the mod. I have found him to be helpfull and interested. Ride your quad and enjoy it. Leave the flaming for kindergardeners and those who flame... uhhh and tree huggers we have enough common enemies without turning on each other.

[400exBro]

retail price is 6785(somewere around it) +tax, so it is a little cheapier then the yammy 450 and it will be availble this winter Jan 2004!!! i don't like the looks but i bet it has a lot of balls behind it,from what i read on hondas site it is a tue 450, but detuned a bit, 10.1 compersion, that is not alot compared to the yammy...

we will see, i am thinking maybe it will be a good machine...

[Steve-O]

anyone see an external oil tank?

[J-06]

350 Lbs..Kick Start its 6499 MSRP its all on hondas site.

[sickmojave]

Originally posted by Steve-O
anyone see an external oil tank?

no but they said it has an oil cooler:ermm:

[PHIL_B54]

maybe im late, but

http://powersports.honda.com/preview/prevTRX450R.html

[Pappy]

i cant wait:devil:

http://powersports.honda.com/images/model/c028_029_030_031_photos_all/atvs/2004/Sportrax_450R/LargeHoriz/Sportrax_450R_large_01.jpg
http://powersports.honda.com/images/model/c028_029_030_031_photos_all/atvs/2004/Sportrax_450R/LargeHoriz/Sportrax_450R_large_04.jpg
http://powersports.honda.com/images/model/c028_029_030_031_photos_all/atvs/2004/Sportrax_450R/LargeHoriz/Sportrax_450R_large_06.jpg
http://powersports.honda.com/images/model/c028_029_030_031_photos_all/atvs/2004/Sportrax_450R/LargeHoriz/Sportrax_450R_large_07.jpg

[generalg]

I'm waiting till January to decide if it will be a YFZ or a 450R. Leaning towards the YFZ right now.....

[seatec]

Originally posted by bigbadbrad
does not look to bad, with the bumber, and nerfs and stuff on it, imo
hopefully that will be the next quad i own, and buy the time i can aford a new qyad, the aftermarket will allready of had their hands on it so i will beable to trick it out no-problem. If i was yami i would have put i a kick start on the yfz if it was really for racing, u know to save weight. well looks like honda has not let us down again.

Brad,
Think before you speak dude. Yamaha has an optional kick starter.
They put an E-start on but you can take it off and save more weight.

The only thing i would be worried about with the YZ and kickstart only is starting the beast. It does not have a hot start option.

ONe more remark. Isnt it funny how people are bashing other forums for bashing them. rather silly isnt it.

The remark that Yamaha owners are more resentfull towards other brand loyal people is absolutely dumb!

DOnt mean to offend you but you get my point.

[wilkin250r]

At least it has a removable rear grab bar...

[wilkin250r]

So, any news on the RPM range of this bad boy? I know the YFZ 10,750 is pretty impressive. I'm thinking the 450r isn't going to be as high because of the longer stroke and single cam.

[ATC83]

I don't know why people keep saying that the TRX450 has a kick starter because its for racing. The main reason it doesn't is that Honda does not have an electric start version of there 450 motor. Yamaha already had an electric start version for there 450 motor. Honda is currently developing a CRF450 endure version to compete with Yamahas populare WR series of bikes. The new CRF450 enduro bike will feature an electric start. There is no way Honda would release an electric start version of the 450 motor on a quad before they released it on a dirt bike.

[cdalejef]

I just got somemore info.
The arms are the same as the 400ex so your aftermarket arms should bolt right up. However, the shocks are longer similer to a z400 so new shock will be in order if your thinking about switching parts from your 400 to the 450.

[coryatver]

What about putting the 450 shocks on the 400?

[Ryan]

Did anyone notice that Honda is "Practicly" the only new quad without the V-shaped front fenders :eek: . I was getting tired of those darn v-shaped fenders :mad: .

[Ryan]

Did anyone notice that Honda is "Practicly" the only new quad without the V-shaped front fenders :eek: . I was getting tired of those darn v-shaped fenders :mad: .

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by coryatver
What about putting the 450 shocks on the 400? They will be too long!

[12gofast]

There will be quite a few EX aftermarket parts that will work on this thing.

You would not believe the security guarding this thing at the show....we got to sit on it last night, but today they wont even let anyone touch it!!!

The magazine guys are going crazy over it.

It should be available to the public the 1st of December! you will see some early releases however at some of the races.

[seatec]

hey 12gofast. YOu gonna be at the Tomahawk park this sunday for free riding on mx track and HS loop?
Me and a couple of buddies are thinking about driving there and having some fun.

[400EXrider#91]

not trying to start anything but remember when the yamaha came out? Exriders bashed the chit out the yamaha, and now when the yamaha owners say there not sure about the honda or they don't like it your all up on them? everybody is different thats what makes the world go round but it don't matter what you ride just that you ride to have fun. the name is a name, its just how it preforms :ermm:

[250exen]

ok, i have 1 question, wtf is a hotstart? do you just hit it when the motor is hot and it starts or do you have to push it and kick?
and if you would be so kind, explain to me how it works.
thanks
tj

[seatec]

The host start is a lever that is pulled if you have to restart your HOT engine. YOu pull it and then kick the kick starter. it's not a starter motor. I think it changes the fuel mixture a little or open the valves up a bit for easier starting. im confused now but im sure somebody in here know what exactly it does. one tip though. dont ever touch your throttle when restarting a hot thumper engine. it wont work well.

[sparky450AR]

im with pappy, i cant wait.......i KNOW that botht he yamaha and the honda dont weigh exactly 350.0LBS!!!!! so which one weighs less????? we need someone to weigh both of them

[MXQUAD294]

.http://e.domaindlx.com/TimmyK/MVC-022S.JPG

[aroracer72]

Originally posted by MXQUAD294
.http://e.domaindlx.com/TimmyK/MVC-022S.JPG

thre my honda 450 right there!!!!...PEP shocks, beedlocks!!.......Carmicheal grapphics!!!...it actually looks bad assssss and looks like a real racer!!!!

[aroracer72]

inn all honesty, i have a great feeling about this quad, i dont know why, but i just feel a strong presence when ever i look at a pic of it!!!....and im betting tim farrs ride will look like that one....i think this may actually be better, im smiling, i just have the feeling!!!:rolleyes2 god i love this feeling, i feel as if the world has been attacked by aliens, and some how, some way, i know that we will prevail(honda), in any case, ride true, ride red or blue, but moslt likely youll need some glue remover to get you off the new honda when you sit on it and are glued to it, when ever you sit on something, and you just know it feels well built, and well designed, i had that sitting experience with my dale, and when i sat on the yamaha, it was nice, but i didnt have the feeling, i bilieve this is it guys!!!...i truly doo!!!:) great job honda

[trx440]

What does Sparks do to get a 505 CRF?

How much bore does he go?

With a 2mm longer stroke you won't have to stroke it to get max cc's as compared to a CRF or even the YFZ.


Fearless prediction:

YFZ will be a better tight track quad, especially where jumps are right out of corners. Much like the tracks we raced in northern Illinois. TRX will be a better GNC National bike where the races are held on long, natural terrain tracks.

[12gofast]

Originally posted by seatec
hey 12gofast. YOu gonna be at the Tomahawk park this sunday for free riding on mx track and HS loop?
Me and a couple of buddies are thinking about driving there and having some fun.

sorry wont be there sunday....I will be in PA for the NHRA nationals.

I will be at Tomahawk on Sat and Monday......you will enjoy yourself...we have put in 10 tractor trailer loads of mulch and we have been getting good quad turnouts.

[aroracer72]

lol, you have the backwards, the crf motor has a ton of low end, which means great corner bursts and e=acceleration, and yamaha is revver.

[seatec]

Thanx for the info 12gofast. dont know if i can go myself right now but ill tell my friends that will go that you guys done some work.

[jmoney45]

Originally posted by MXQUAD294
.http://e.domaindlx.com/TimmyK/MVC-022S.JPG

Instant wood...:eek2:

[trx440]

aroracer,

You've been spoiled by the best mx track in the world. I grew upjust across the border from New Buffalo and started racing at Red Bud in "gulp"1979 but you'd never know it by lookin' at me!!!

Smaller stadium tracks like in Illinois have jumps, some quite long, out of the turns that I had difficulty clearing with my CT440 and of course my bike had huge low-end. 265R had no problem cuz it get's on the pipe quick enough. Your a racer, if you can get to your "hit" [if you have one] that's what it's all about. I'm not talking about little step-ups or small tables that are right at the exit of corners where 400ex quads excel. The TRX450R engine may be able to do both, I'll find out in December but I know guys who race both bikes and they say the YZF is a great jumper because of the hit on take off. Most of us learned to mx on 2-strokes so that is a big influence.

They reason I know Honda will work at the big tracks is more about the chassis. Managing speed and retaining speed rather than acquiring speed wins races. Plus if the engine is "easier " to ride than the YFZ it won't tire you out on the big tracks where often times your races are longer. 3-5 laps around your local track is barely enogh to make you sweat, 3 times around Red Bud and you're ready for a brew.

Had I seen someone post what I did I would have thought the same thing. What I said is out of learned experience and personal preference of my riding style. The more a bike runs like a 2 stroke the better it is for me on a technical, jump-filled track. High speed natural terrain, I want the bike to be easy to ride so I can retain that speed and concentrate on the squids.

That's my take anyways.

[Pappy]

http://www.trx-450r.com/images/trx450r-07-large.jpg

[Foxrage]

I think the only reason we arnt impressed by the new honda is because its similar to the yamaha but they put theres out sooner. By doing that we were stuned by the yamaha and what it had then whe honda brought something out just as great but nuthing new so we werent thrilled about it...If you ask me honda made this a reliable racing atv with the performace to compete with all the new quads....Nuthin worse then your bearings going out motor blowing up electric start burning out or transmission blow in the middle of a race. I in no way see that happening to this honda. Yamaha has a higher chance since they rushed into it.

[Pahrump]

Originally posted by Foxrage
I think the only reason we arnt impressed by the new honda is because its similar to the yamaha but they put theres out sooner. By doing that we were stuned by the yamaha and what it had then whe honda brought something out just as great but nuthing new so we werent thrilled about it...If you ask me honda made this a reliable racing atv with the performace to compete with all the new quads....Nuthin worse then your bearings going out motor blowing up electric start burning out or transmission blow in the middle of a race. I in no way see that happening to this honda. Yamaha has a higher chance since they rushed into it.


I am sure the Honda will be great but, Yamaha did not rush into this new quad they spent over 3 yrs testing.

[EvilEwok]

Actually I think that honda was developing theres before yamaha considered to do this. AND THIS IS MY NEW QUAD!! I need it....-hugs the picture-

[aroracer72]

theres already probs with the yfz, as people already know, they are having tannies probs, and fricking lower a-arms are breaking!!!.....thats just scary, and as for honda, you know it will be safe and reliable!!!

it might not look as cool but by god it won't break. But i think the yami has a better engine internals and an elctric start is good.

[seatec]

yeah right!! honda is perfect right of the bbat. yeah right. perfect like the crf450 airbox that didnt seal right and sucked dirt into the engine. yup perfect in every respect. Perfect like the racke of the fork that they chnged the year after leaving us who took a chance on the brand new bike to suck on it. yup, Honda is perfect in every respect. A selective memory is a beautifull thing aint it.

[seatec]

yeah right!! honda is perfect right of the bbat. yeah right. perfect like the crf450 airbox that didnt seal right and sucked dirt into the engine. yup perfect in every respect. Perfect like the racke of the fork that they chnged the year after leaving us who took a chance on the brand new bike to suck on it. yup, Honda is perfect in every respect. A selective memory is a beautifull thing aint it.

[Jnine]

You ride a bike with an aluminum frame, EFI, and digital mapping, yet you rag on the YFZ because of a couple reports of A-arm problems? I hardly think one or two guys who have managed to screw up their new YFZ constitutes a problem. From the photos I have seen it definitely looks as if they hit something, although they will never tell you that. In fact, as we all know, some guys can wreck anything, and it has nothing to do with being a great rider, and everything to do with being an idiot. Somebody WILL manage to trash a new CRF 450 very shortly after it hits the local riding areas as well. Guaranteed! That hardly means it has a design flaw however. In fact, I would be MUCH more concerned about the aftermarket a-arms you are riding with instead of the YFZ. I know Yamaha did their engineering homework intead of guessing.

[aroracer72]

yeah......hhhhmmmm.........aaaahhh........the yfz arm problem isnt just some pics, and some stories, ive heard it from local friends, people on the net, and also the yfz are having tranny probs, and as for the honda having those air box lid and steering probs, THEY FIXED IT!!!!...and they wont use the same air box as on the dirtbike in this, and thats pretty much the only defectful probs woth hoondas ive heard of in a while in the motocross scene, well that and the cr125 is a like a teddy bear with power, but none the less, as we all are saying, only time will tell, so we cant really say anything about any brand:ermm: